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ALL RIGHT, LET'S, LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW.
I DO ALSO HAD SOME SPECIAL ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT WE ARE GONNA DO A, WE ARE GONNA DO A QUICK PRAYER, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO THE PLEDGE AGAIN.
WHAT'S THAT? WE DON'T HAVE THE MASTER.
WE'LL, WE WILL, WE WILL DRAFT SOMEBODY.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION? I NOMINATE FELIX.
FELIX, LET'S STAND FOR, FOR THE INVOCATION.
YOU WANT ME TO DO IT HERE? YEAH.
LORD GOD, WE COME BOLDLY BEFORE YOU, LORD GOD, HUMBLY BEFORE YOU.
LORD, WE THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR ALLOWING US TO CONGREGATE TOGETHER IN LOVE.
WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD, FATHER, FOR SHOWING US HOW TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND TO JUST ALLOW US TO, TO AGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WHATEVER WE VOTE ON, LORD GOD.
FATHER, WE ASK YOU TO PLACE YOUR HAND OVER ROSENBERG FATHER, THAT YOUR HAS PROTECTION BE UPON ROSENBERG FATHER AND THEIR PEOPLE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR WHAT YOU DO IN OUR CITY.
WE THANK YOU, FATHER FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
AND WE THANK YOU, FATHER FOR THE NEW THINGS AND THE GOOD THINGS TO COME.
AND IF YOU CAN, WE CAN DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
FELIX, I ALWAYS LIKE YOUR PRAYERS.
THEY, THEY ALWAYS MAKE ME FEEL GOOD.
I, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF.
I'M GONNA SQUEEZE IN SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.
THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT BEING 4TH OF JULY, FRIDAY, 4TH OF JULY, THE CITY, CITY HALL, AND SOME OF THE CITY BUILDINGS WILL BE CLOSED.
BUT WE WILL BE HAVING THE, UH, SEABORNE CREEK, WELL AT THE SEABORNE CREEK NATURE PARK FAMILY FORTH.
IN FACT, THAT WILL BE VERY OPEN.
AND THERE'LL BE, UH, LIVE BAND.
START STARTING OFF WITH KEVIN BLACK AND THEN STEEL COUNTRY.
AND THEN ABOUT 9 15, 9 20, A VERY HIGH QUALITY FIREWORK DISPLAY.
UH, THERE WILL BE NO INTERRUPTION TO TRASH SERVICE.
SO IF ANYBODY ASKS YOU, LET 'EM KNOW.
ALRIGHT, FISH TASTIC WILL BE SET, IS SET FOR JULY 17TH.
THAT'S THE THURSDAY, SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30.
AND IT ALSO IS AT SEABORN CREEK NATURE PARK.
DOES THE COUNCIL, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WILL A LICENSE BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
DO THEY REQUIRE A FISHING LICENSE? A FISHING TEST? UH, NO.
YOU DON'T NEED A FISHING LICENSE FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S ALL KIDS.
IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT THE KIDS ARE, THE KIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES FISHING, NOT THE ADULTS.
THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT THE FIREWORKS BEING ILLEGAL.
WHY DON'T YOU, UH, REITERATE THAT FOR ME? I WANT YOU TO IT.
AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD, WE HAD A LIVELY MEETING LAST WEEK THAT WENT VERY, UH, WAS IT LAST WEEK? I GUESS IT WAS.
UH, WE, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, AND THEY WANT THE CITY, THEY WANT THE CITY TO START CRACKING DOWN ON THE ILLEGAL POPPING OF FIREWORKS.
SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU HAD PLANS TO POP FIREWORKS IN THE CITY,
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PLEASE DON'T DO IT.CHANCES ARE YOU'RE GOING TO GET SPOTTED AND TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
YOUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR WILL TURN YOU IN.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EXTRA ENFORCEMENT ALSO.
OUR POLICE CHIEF AND OUR FIRE CHIEF PERSONALLY ARE GONNA BE OUT AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER POLICE AND OTHER FIRE OFFICIALS.
IF YOU, YOU'RE SHOOTING FIREWORKS, WILL THERE BE ANY CRIME STOPPERS REWARDS? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT
ANYWAY, SO FOLKS REALLY NEED TO ADHERE AND DON'T POP FIREWORKS AND CITY COME TO THE FAMILY FORTH AND SEE A SPECTACULAR FIREWORK DISPLAY MORE, MORE THAN ANY OF US INDIVIDUALLY COULD AFFORD TO HAVE.
SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A, A BIG DEAL.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO MUCH FOR THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET YOU TO READ THE RULES.
SPEAKERS MAY SPEAK UP TO THREE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS OR A MAXIMUM OF ONCE DURING GENERAL COMMENTS AND UP TO TWO ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, EXCEPT THAT A SPEAKER WHO ADDRESSES THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A TRANSLATOR IS LIMITED TO SIX MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISTRIBUTE DOCUMENTATION WHILE ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL SPEAKERS, MAKING PERSONAL IMPERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM AND SHALL BE BARRED FROM REENTERING THE CHAMBER DURING THE SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
IT IS OUR POLICY TO HAVE ALL SPEAKERS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY PROVIDING THEIR NAME AND RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS WHEN MAKING COMMENTS.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER, GENEVA MORALES, MS. MORALES, YOU DON'T WANNA DO THE IMAGE COMMITTEE FIRST? OH, YES.
I THINK THAT I'M REALLY GETTING, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[ Presentation of Rosenberg Image Committee Beautification and Renovation Awards for July 2025. (William Benton, Mayor) ]
LET'S DO THE IMAGE COMMITTEE.THAT WAY YOU CAN GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY.
THE IMAGE COMMITTEE FOLKS HERE.
THE IMAGE COMMITTEE, AND THEY PROBABLY WANT TO CUT OUT RIGHT AFTER THE IMAGE COMMITTEE.
NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, WE'RE GONNA, AFTER THIS, AFTER THIS MEETING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RULE.
WE'RE GONNA DO IMAGE COMMITTEE AT THE VERY, VERY END, AT NINE 30 AT NIGHT.
SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE STICK AROUND
FELIX, ARE YOU STILL ON THE IMAGE COMMITTEE? YES, SIR.
GEORGE, ARE YOU STILL ON THE IMAGE COMMITTEE? ARE YOU STILL ON? YEAH.
GEORGE, WHY DON'T YOU GO DOWN FOR YOUR PICTURE, GEORGE.
WE ALSO HAVE A MEMBER OF OUR IMAGE COMMITTEE HERE.
SO ONCE A MONTH, IF WE HAVE THEM, WE, WE RECOGNIZE FOLKS LIKE A YARD OF THE MONTH IS, IS BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.
AND, UH, THIS MONTH WE HAVE SEVERAL AND OUR FIRST ONE IS, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA LET YOU READ IT.
HOW'S THAT? YOU WANNA READ IT? WELL, WE'RE GONNA LET YOU READ IT.
JUST START RIGHT THERE ON THIS.
CITY OF ROSENBERG IMAGE COMMITTEE, CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION.
HEREBY KNOWN TO ALL THAT ALICE VELAZQUEZ 1200 MILLIE STREET, HAS ON THIS FIRST DAY OF JULY, 2025, BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR ACHIEVEMENTS BY DEMONSTRATING YOUR COMMITMENT TO MAKING ROSENBERG A MO MORE BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE THROUGH LANDSCAPING OF 1200 MILLIE STREET, AND FOR YOUR CARING EFFORTS AT MAKING THIS LOCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY MORE APPEALING AND THEREFORE DESERVING THE RECOGNI RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY FOR YOUR UNDERTAKING.
SO, YES, SO MS. UH, VELAZQUEZ, COULD YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE? HERE, WE, YOU GIVE IT TO HER.
I'M GONNA GO TURN THE LIGHTS DOWN.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A GROUP PICTURE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN WAIT HERE, MS. VELASQUEZ ON THIS SIDE.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE REST OF THEM, THEN WE'LL TAKE A GROUP.
DO I HAVE TO WRITE? ALRIGHT, BROTHER.
FELIX, WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS ONE? ALRIGHT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THIS PART HERE.
THE CITY OF ROSENBERG IMAGE COMMITTEE CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION IS HERE BY NO, UM,
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FOR MS. BRENDA FLORES FOR 35 0 5 AVENUE.ISN'T THAT NICE? NO, NOT, THAT'S NOT IT.
UH, AND THEN GO BACK A SECOND TO, TO THE FIRST ONE ON MILLER.
YOU GONNA DO IT AHEAD? THAT'S NOT IT.
AND YOU GO BY THERE EVERY DAY.
SHE'S ALWAYS KEEPING UP HER YARD.
SHE DOES HER OWN YARD, DON'T SHE? YES, SHE DOES.
ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ONE HERE IS ON THE CORNER OF AVENUE O AND OLA, I THINK.
NO, THAT'S, UH, YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? OH, IN CHARGE OF THIS OPERATION? LEMME SEE.
ARE YOU THE THERE'S STRUGGLING WITH, THERE IT IS.
Y'ALL PUT THAT NEW SIDEWALK ON.
YOU, ME TO DO THE NEXT ONE OR YOU WANNA DO IT? GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.
THE CITY OF ROSENBERG IMAGE COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES JAMES AND JEANETTE CHAPMAN OF 2101 AVENUE M OKAY.
ARE THEY HERE? NO, DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE, BUT LET'S LOOK AT THEIR, OH, SORRY, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS PLEASE? 2101 AVENUE M.
THAT'S DOWN, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE FROM CITY HALL AVENUE M AT FOURTH STREET.
LEMME SEE YOU SEE THE PICTURE OF IT.
GEORGE, WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS? ALRIGHT.
I MEAN, WE WANT GROUP PARTICIPATION.
THE CITY OF ROSENBERG IMAGE COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES EDDIE AND KAREN ESTA OF 1732 CLOCKY STREET.
GEORGE, THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.
AND THEY DO, THEY DO THEIR JOB AS WELL.
I'LL LET YOU PRACTICE ON ANOTHER ONE.
I'M GLAD I GET TO DO THIS ONE 'CAUSE THIS IS OVER BY WHERE I LIVE.
SO ADOLFO AND RUBY AGUILAR 1403.
IS HE NOT HERE? HE'S, NO, HE'S BLIND.
THE ONE WE ASKED ABOUT, LADIES, YOU THREE ARE STARS.
AND SO WE GOTTA GET Y'ALL TO STAND ON THIS.
AND THEN WE'LL, UM, WE'LL TAKE A GROUP PICTURE OF Y'ALL.
CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATES OUT THERE LADIES.
LET EVERYBODY, WHICH I'LL TAKE THE EXTRA ONES AND GET 'EM BACK TO WE HAVE THEM BAND.
[ GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. Citizens who have registered with the City Secretary prior to the meeting being called to order and desire to address the City Council with comments of a general nature, as it relates to the City of Rosenberg, will be heard at this time. Speakers may speak on up to three (3) specific agenda items, or a maximum of once during General Comments and up to two (2) additional specific agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three (3) minutes, except that a speaker who addresses the City Council through a translator is limited to six (6) minutes. Speakers are not allowed to distribute documentation while addressing City Council. Speakers making personal, impertinent, profane or slanderous remarks may be removed from the room and shall be barred from reentering the Chamber during the session of City Council. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the City Council is restricted from discussing or taking action on items not listed on the agenda. It is our policy to have all speakers identify themselves by providing their name and residential address when making comments. ]
NOW WHERE WERE WE? GENERAL COMMENT, UH, NOW, MS. MORALES,[00:15:01]
YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, BUT DID YOU, WELL OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS YOUR ITEM ANYWAY 'CAUSE YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU CAN DO IT NOW 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S FINE.YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, OKAY, WELL COME ON DOWN.
YOU GOTTA, UH, SAY YOUR NAME IN INTO, SO SHE'S SPEAKING UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS OR UNDER THE ITEM, UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I'M ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF, OH, I'M SORRY.
IT'S GENEVA MORALES AND I'M THE OWNER OF THE, UH, UH, PATIO THAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT ON REGULAR AGENDA SECTION 2 56, 10 WAGON WHEEL LANE ROSENBERG, TEXAS, IN THE OAKS OF ROSENBERG.
AND JUST, UM, WANTING TO SAY THAT I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU'RE IN FAVOR.
UM, AND I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWO WEEKS AGO AND IT WAS APPROVED, UM, UNANIMOUS DECISION.
SO THIS IS, I THINK, LIKE A SECOND PART TO THAT.
AND, UH, TOM, MR. CASSIDY, HOW YOU DOING? I'M GOOD.
IF, IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND MY NAME IS TOM CASSIDY.
I'M WITH THE RICHMOND STATE SUPPORTED LIVING CENTER.
IS YOUR MIC ON? IS YOUR MIC ON? NO.
OH, YOU KNOW YOU GUYS, THERE YOU GO.
YOU GUYS DID HAVE NOTES ABOUT THAT.
NOW YOU'RE, NOW YOU'RE ROLLING.
ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS TOM CASSIDY.
I AM WITH THE RICHMOND STATE SUPPORTED LIVING CENTER, AND I REPRESENT THE VOLUNTEER SERVICES COUNCIL AS WELL, WHICH IS OUR NONPROFIT.
I DON'T KNOW FOR THE RECORD IF IT'S NEEDED, BUT I LIVE AT 2 0 5 1 8 SPARROW SPUR STREET IN RICHMOND, TEXAS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED A LITTLE INVITATION, UH, HAS KIND OF A CASINO THEME.
UH, ON BEHALF OF OUR VOLUNTEER SERVICES COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE MEMBERS HERE TO OUR NINTH ANNUAL VEGAS, TEXAS STYLE EVENT.
IT WILL BE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH.
IT IS AT THE SAFARI TEXAS RANCH.
IT WILL BE FROM SIX TO 10:00 PM IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, YOU WANNA KNOW ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, OUR ORGANIZATION, IT'S, UH, YOU COULD GO TO WW DOT VSC RICHMOND.ORG.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 200 ACRES ALRIGHT.
OVER BY OAK BEND HOSPITAL DOWN ON PRESTON STREET, AND WE HAVE OVER 300 RESIDENTS THERE WITH DISABILITIES.
AND THAT THIS EVENT WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THEM THROUGH OUR VOLUNTEER SERVICES COUNCIL, I THINK I'M GOOD ON TIME.
DO ANYONE QUESTIONS? WELL, WE CAN'T ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
JUST THOUGHT I'D ON AGENDA, BUT THANK YOU, TOM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, ON YOUR FUNDRAISER.
IS THE MIC ON SAMMY? OH, CAN YOU PUSH IT? PUSH A WORD SAYS, UM, WHERE IT SAYS PUSH.
SAM CARLY, THE 1310 FIFTH STREET.
BEFORE WE CELEBRATE THE 4TH OF JULY, I CAME HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST COUNTY JAIL TO INCARCERATE THE CITIZENS FOR TRAFFIC TICKETS.
THE CITY JUDGE SHOULD ABIDE BY THE $50 FAIRLY TO APPEAR WARRANT OF A MINIMUM SENTENCING GUIDELINE ALONG WITH THE $150 MINIMUM RATE.
WHERE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED BY THE LAWMAKERS IN AUSTIN TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM THE MONEYMAKING SCHEMES OF THE CORPORATIONS AND LAWYERS OR CITY JUDICIAL BRANCH HIRED BY THE MUNICIPALITIES TO ENSURE ALL CITIZENS THAT ONE DAY CITY JAIL IS ENOUGH PUNISHMENT FOR MISSING THEIR COURT DATE AND RELEASED AFTER SEEING THE JUDGE AS POLICE CHIEF WHITE PROMISED THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE USE OF COLLECTION AGENCIES, BAIL BONDS, AND COUNTY JAIL.
THIS LEGISLATION WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT FOR ALL PUBLIC OFFICIALS, JUDGES, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO OBEY.
AND YET THE CITY ATTORNEY CLAIMS THAT THERE'S ANOTHER STATE LAW GIVING THE JUDGE DISCRETION TO A $500 WARRANT.
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CITIZENS UNDER FOR TRAFFIC TICKETS.THIS IS ILLOGICAL AND DEEPLY UN-AMERICAN.
THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN'T JUST SAY THAT HE HAS TO PROVE IT, THE CITY COUNCIL BY PRODUCING THIS LAW.
BUT UP TO THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO SO AND IS SHOWING HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE.
CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THE WRITTEN LAW THEY'RE BEING SENTENCED UNDER.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK MAYOR BENTON THE PLACE THIS ISSUE ON A WORKSHOP AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY.
CITIZENS AND THEIR CHILDREN AT THE AGE OF 17 DO NOT DESERVE COUNTY JAIL.
IT SHOULD ONLY BE A PLACE FOR CRIMINALS, CITIZENS OF ROTTENBERG.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS DESERVE STRONG, CARING LEADERSHIP.
I'M GOING TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE WORKSHOP.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? SO I CAN SEE HE'S HELPING? WELL, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S THE LAST, WILL I BE ABLE TO ASK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME? YES.
AND ONCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, THANK YOU, KYLE.
UH, NOW I'LL PUT IT ON, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WON'T TAKE IT OFF.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WELL, THANK YOU FOR TRYING JUST THE RULE.
ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S NO MORE, NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[ CONSENT AGENDA ]
GO MOVE ALONG TO OUR AGENDA.AND FIRST IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
AND Y'ALL LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SEE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO YES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOTION BY HECTOR, SECONDED BY STEVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE OR YES.
NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT MADE.
AND SECOND, THE MOTION WILL SAY YES TO THEIR OWN MOTION.
I ALREADY PUT IT ON THE SCREEN.
GEORGE, YOU GONNA VOTE? HE, YES.
[2. Consideration of and action on a variance request to allow a zero-foot (0') side setback in lieu of the required five-foot (5') setback to permit a covered patio to remain at 5610 Wagon Wheel Lane (Chapter 4, Division 2, Sec. 4-68 (C)(2)(ii)). (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA NOW.Y'ALL HEARD HER, UH, HER DEAL HERE.
WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
MR. HARVEY, WOULD YOU CARE TO, WOULD YOU CARE TO COME? I'M SCARED NOT TO.
WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? MY NAME IS BILL HARVEY.
I AM A RESIDENT FROM THE OAKVILLE ROSENBERG 56 10 WAGON WHEEL.
I'M A NEIGHBOR TO MS. MORALES.
JUST TELL YOU THAT WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT AT THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION OF NEIGHBORS WHO SUPPORTED HER.
AND THIS, IT WAS A, IT WAS A, IT'S A SPECIAL VARIANCE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET THE VARIANCE, BUT HER, THERE WERE TWO HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS BUILT KIND OF WEIRD.
AND WE SUPPORT HER, HER FAMILY AND THEM SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOME POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT IT SO THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTS HER.
I'M ALSO A DIRECTOR ON THE BOARD ON THE HOA AND WE ARE NOT PURSUING ANYTHING AGAINST IT.
SO SINCE YOU, SINCE THIS IS AN ITEM AND AGENDA, WE CAN CONVERSATE.
SO YOU'RE, SO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUPPORTING THIS WITH NO PROBLEMS. HOA IS GOOD WITH IT.
WELL, HOA, AFTER, AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED FOR FIRE BREAKS, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER UTILITIES, HOW IT WAS BUILT, WHY IT WAS BUILT.
AFTER THAT, I REPORTED BACK TO THE HOA AND WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
SO, SO, SO, I I HAD A QUESTION.
SO YOU, YOU SAID YOU WERE HER NEIGHBOR ON, ON THE SIDE ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT, BUT THERE WAS NO OTHER, UH, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT? NO, NEIGHBORS SHOWED UP WITH ISSUES WITH IT.
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THE, UM, THE ITEM TO BEGIN WITH.SO WE HAVE SOMEBODY HAD, SOMEBODY MUST HAVE TURNED HER IN, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE HAD SOME THINGS GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE A RENT HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF SPACEX ON THE FIRST STREET THAT COMES IN.
UH, IT'S A SWIMMING POOL COMPANY.
ALL A BUNCH OF TRUCKS PARKED THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND WE STARTED TRYING TO, TO DEAL WITH IT WITHOUT DOING IT LEGALLY THROUGH THE HOA AND I THINK ONE OF THE HO MEMBERS, HOA MEMBERS CALLED, UM, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FINGERS WERE DOING THIS.
SUBSEQUENTLY, I INSTALLED A MINI SPLIT IN MY, ON MY GARAGE.
I DID NOT KNOW I HAD TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR THAT, BUT I TOOK IT OUT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT COULD BE DONE CORRECTLY.
UM, SO THERE WAS A LOT OF THAT GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE HIT.
AND GENEVA GOT HIT PRETTY HARD BECAUSE SHE WASN'T A PART OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO JUST SO FOR YOUR, UH, MINI SPLIT, WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE HERE IN THE CITY.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UH, FOR ANY AC INSTALLATION, YOU HAVE TO COME GET A PERMIT FROM THE CITY.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS IN ROSENBURG DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PULL A PERMIT FOR AC I DO NOW.
NO, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST, FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING OUTSIDE, I'M JUST LETTING THEM KNOW 'CAUSE WE ARE LIVE.
SO THAT WAY THEY KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA INSTALL NEW AC, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PULL A PERMIT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR AC INSTALLATION.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS.
I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH THE, THE, THE, THE PERMIT.
NO, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
YOU SAID THEY SELL IT AT LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT.
SO I MEAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, HEY, I CAN PUT THIS IN OVER A WEEKEND.
AND I LOVED IT EVERY MINUTE I HAD IT, BUT IT'S GONE.
WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE MUCH DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, YOU GOTTA PUSH THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE.
CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? YEP.
PRESS OR SAY YES IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY NO.
PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE CITY OF NO PROBLEM.
[3. Review and discuss Subsidence/Groundwater Reduction Plan (GRP) fees, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Joyce Vasut, City Manager) ]
WHAT'S THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES.REVIEW AND DISCUSS SUBSIDENCE GROUNDWATER REDUCTION PLAN GRP FEES AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.
UM, LET ME JUST CUT THROUGH THE CHASE.
SO RIGO HAS GOT YOUR NAME ON IT.
JOYCE, IT HAS YOUR NAME ON IT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE RAISE ANY FEES, ARE YOU? YES, I AM.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT PERTAINS TO THAT.
HOW LONG IS THE PRESENTATION? I CAN MAKE IT PRETTY QUICK.
SO THE ORDINANCE FOR WATER WASTEWATER SERVICES IS REVIEWED ANNUALLY RELATIVE TO THE RATES CHARGED TO CUSTOMERS FOR WATER, WASTEWATER AND SUBSIDENCE GRP FEES.
CURRENTLY NO CHANGES ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES.
HOWEVER, WE ARE PROPOSING A CHANGE TO, UM, GRP FEES AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH PRESENTATION QUICKLY.
SO CITY OF ROSENBERG SIGNED A WATER SUPPLY AGREEMENT BRA PORT WATER AUTHORITY IN 2014 TO TAKE 3 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
UM, WE, AND THAT WAS TO MEET THE 2016 30% REDUCTION IN GROUNDWATER.
UM, ON FEBRUARY OF 2015, WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 2.7 MILLION OF GALLONS, UM, THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE IF WE NEED TO IN THE FUTURE.
THE COST FOR BWA CONTRACT CAPITAL, UM, COST, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAY BWA FOR THE DEBT, THAT AMOUNT WAS A DOLLAR 82 PER THOUSAND GALLONS IN 2025.
AND IT'S GOING TO TWO THOU, I'M SORRY, IT'S GOING TO $2 AND 7 CENTS IN 2026.
UM, WE PAY THIS FEE MONTHLY AND IT COSTS US ABOUT TH THREE, $311,220 PER MONTH FOR THE DEBT PORTION.
THE M AND O PORTION OF THE, UM, CONTRACTED AMOUNT, UM, IS CURRENTLY $2 AND 96 PER THOUSAND.
AND IN 2026, THAT'S GOING TO $3 AND 7 CENTS.
WE CURRENTLY PAY ABOUT 266,000 A MONTH FOR THAT COST.
SO TOGETHER THOSE TWO COSTS ARE BEING INCREASED
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TO US FROM BWA BY 36 CENTS.HERE IS A HISTORICAL AND ESTIMATE COST FOR BWA WATER.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN, YOU CAN SEE IN 2028, WE'RE PROJECTING AN INCREASE.
UM, THIS WILL HAVE TO TAKE, THIS IS BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MORE WATER IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO MEET THE 60% MANDATE, UM, BY THE SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT.
WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT YEAR THAT'S GONNA TAKE EFFECT.
THEY'RE STILL DISCUSSING THAT, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S GONNA TAKE EFFECT, BUT SOMETIMES BETWEEN NOW AND 2030.
SO, BUT THE POINT HERE IS, ALTHOUGH THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE MORE WATER FROM BWA, UM, TO MEET THAT MANDATE, WHICH IS GONNA MAKE OUR COSTS GO UP, OUR REVENUE IS NOT GONNA GO UP ALONG WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA SELL MORE WATER.
WE JUST HAVE TO BUY MORE FROM BWA AND PUMP LESS WITH OUR OWN WELLS.
SO IT'S CHEAPER FOR US TO PUMP IT IN OUR, FROM OUR OWN WELLS, BUT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BECAUSE OF THE 60%.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY MORE FROM BWA, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SELL MORE.
WE'LL SELL A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE TO MAKE UP FOR THIS BIG, UM, COST DIFFERENCE.
SO, UM, IF YOU, SO WE SEE THE DILEMMA.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST A CHART THAT SHOWS IF WE STAY WHERE WE'RE AT, AROUND 2028, WE GO, ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING? NO, HE'S, I'M TRYING CONTROL POWERPOINT.
HE'S CONTROLLING THE POWERPOINT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UM, THAT'S WHEN WE START TO GO NEGATIVE IN THIS FUND.
SO IF WE MAKE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS NOW IN THE FEES, WE CAN HOPEFULLY PUSH THAT, THAT EFFECT BACK MORE YEARS.
UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GO UP.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE SHOW, UM, THIS IS JUST A HISTORY OF SUBSIDENCE FEE RATES THAT STARTED IN OH 7, 0 8, UM, AT 25 CENTS.
UM, ALL ALONG WE KNEW THE FEE WOULD CONTINUE TO RISE.
UM, WE'RE UP TO $2 AND 75 CENTS RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, PROJECTING, UM, OR WE'RE REQUESTING TO GO TO 2 95, WHICH WOULD BE A 20 CENT INCREASE.
UM, IN, IN SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE COMING THIS WAY.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT TWO THREE.
SO HERE, HERE IS WHERE WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES.
SO IF WE GO UP 20 CENTS TO 2 95, WE'RE STILL, UM, LOWER THAN MOST OTHER CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS.
I MEAN, A 20 CENT INCREASE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WILL NOT COVER THESE CAPITAL NEEDS, BUT AS WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE, WE MAY STILL NEED TO BUILD A SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
CAN I INTERRUPT RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM
I'VE KNOW, UH, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, WE'RE THINK, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, I'VE HEARD THERE'S, WE WE'RE MIGHT ACQUIRE SOME PROPERTY SO WE CAN BUILD, WOULD THIS HELP US FROM NOT BUYING THAT MUCH WATER FROM THE VWA OR I'M JUST THINKING FUTURE RIGHT NOW, IF THAT, WHAT THAT'S GONNA HELP.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE, RIGHT NOW WE RECEIVE 3 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY FROM BWA.
WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT TO RECEIVE UP TO 5.7 MILLION.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT EVEN POSITIVE THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE 5.7 MILLION PER DAY IF THAT CAN, UH, WHAT'S THE FIT THROUGH TRAVEL THROUGH THE PIPELINE FROM HERE TO THERE.
TRANSMIT, WILL THEY GOOD, GOOD WORD.
WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO TRANSMIT THAT MUCH TO US? I MEAN, WE, THEY SHOULD AND PROBABLY CAN, BUT WE MAY EVEN NEED MORE THAN THAT.
SO, WELL, MY QUESTION IS, IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLANT, WE WON'T BE BUYING AS MUCH FROM THEM.
RIGHT? WE WE'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE AMOUNT WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT FOR.
BUT IF WE GO TO 60%, UM, IF THE FOR BEND SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT CHANGES IT TO 60%, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US ENOUGH.
SO THEREFORE WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
SO I GUESS TO ANSWER MY QUESTION IS IF THEY WENT UP TO 60%, IT'LL BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN RIGHT.
OUR OWN SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING AT.
AND THIS SLIDE JUST KIND OF SHOWS THAT THERE, THERE ARE SOME BIG, I MEAN, A SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT,
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AN ESTIMATE COST IS A HUNDRED MILLION.WE WOULD NEVER AFFORD THAT WITHIN OUR CURRENT RATES.
UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY THE WORD, BUT WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO ISSUE SOME TYPE OF DEBT TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT TYPE OF PLANT.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD NOT EVEN NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE DEBT FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
IT COULD BE DEBT FROM WATER RATES.
BUT I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA HERE IN THE FUTURE.
JUST, SO, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS HERE THAT, UM, ALSO MAY NEED FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.
SO I, APPARENTLY THE CONTRACT WITH BWA ALLOWS FOR THEM TO MAKE THESE INCREMENTAL INCREASES.
SO BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD A DEAL, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE AMOUNT FOR THIS MUCH, UH, BUT UM, THEY, THEY, UM, NO, THE, THE RATES ARE NOT SET BY THAT CONTRACT.
THEY CAN CHANGE THE RATES ANNUALLY AND THEY DO CHANGE THE RATES ANNUALLY.
UM, WE'RE TIED TO THAT CONTRACT AS LONG AS THEY HAVE DEBT.
UM, WE WILL, THAT'S ONE THING.
AND ORIGINALLY WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS, UH, 20 11, 20 12, 20 13, 20 14, OF COURSE CHARLIE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.
IF YOU RECALL, ROSENBERG AND RICHMOND WERE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AND DO THE WATER PLANT ONE BY THE RICHMOND STATE SCHOOL.
SO, UH, SPEAKING TO WHAT HECTOR SEE, RICHMOND HAS A BIG WATER PLANT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT THEIR CAPACITY IS, BUT, UM, INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO BUILD, OR I THINK I SAW WHAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THIS IS, IS THAT, IS THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR IS THAT A HUNDRED MILLION? THAT'S A HUNDRED MILLION.
SO PERHAPS WE SHOULD LOOK INTO DOING WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN BEFORE WE AS A GROUP BAILED OUT OF THAT AND WENT TO BWA.
UM, PERHAPS IF BWA KNEW THAT WE HAD SOME ALTERNATIVES, MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, BE TRYING TO, OR THE, THE MAYBE IT WOULD GIVE US SOME RELIEF ON THE RIGHT.
NONETHELESS, I, I'VE MADE MY PLEDGES WHEN I CAMPAIGN AND THEY DON'T APPLY TO Y'ALL, BUT I, I AM NOT, I CANNOT SUPPORT ANY RATE HEIGHT FOR ANYTHING.
BUT I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT WE WANT THE, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FUND AND THE HEALTH OF THE FUND.
SO CAN A FUND, IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION, THIS IS MAYBE FOR BRANDON, THAT THAT FUND BE, UH, SUPPLEMENTED, UH, FROM OTHER FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, LET'S SAY ANY PROHIBITION FROM THAT ON THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE.
'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF THAT FUND.
AND BEFORE, BEFORE I AGREED TO ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ONE OUTTA SEVEN.
SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE? NO, DON'T PAY FOR A, WELL, YOU, YOU KNOW, WATER, YOU KNOW ME BETTER THAN THAT.
I JUST HAD TO ASK BECAUSE I MEAN, GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHEN WE BRING THE BUDGET TO YOU, WE JUST GAVE SOME INCREASES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND A LOT OF THINGS, THE GENERAL FUND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE WATER FUND.
BUT FOR, FOR OUR COST AS A CITIZEN MYSELF, FOR A THOUSAND GALLONS, IT'S ABOUT 20 CENTS.
SO HERE'S, HERE'S THE LAST SLIDE, WHICH A SLIGHT INCREASE OF 20 CENTS PER THOUSAND GALLONS.
UM, IT COMES TO ABOUT A DOLLAR 50 A MONTH FOR EACH CUSTOMER.
I DON'T FOR, FOR AN AVERAGE CUSTOMER.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT MUCH, MAYOR.
I MEAN, WELL, YOU CAN VOTE FOR IT.
I, I WON'T, BUT NO ONE ELSE HAS TO EITHER.
AND WE'RE REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR A SMALL INCREASE BECAUSE AS I SHOWN, UM, EI MEAN BWA A'S PASSING ON A 36TH CENT INCREASE TO US, WE'RE TRYING TO GROUP AT LEAST HALF OF THAT, UM, WITH A 20 CENT INCREASE TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
AND, AND WE, WE, I HAD A QUESTION.
AND WE NEED TO, UH, WE SHOULD TALK TO RICHMOND AS WELL.
I MEAN, I, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THAT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO HANDLE ROSENBERG AND REGA MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
WELL, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY IF THEY KNEW THEY HAD A, ANOTHER PARTNER.
I I, I DON'T THINK THEIR PLANT HAS THAT CAPABILITY TO, OR HAVE THAT MUCH SPACE TO, TO DO IT.
AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECTIONS WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH OF, OF ROSENBERG HERE, THE NEW FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA NEED CLOSER TO 9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WHERE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THAT WATER FROM BWA.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND AN ALTERNATE SOURCE OF RIGHT.
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I, AND THE BIG CONCERN ALSO HAS BEEN AT TIMES, THE RIVER, THE RIVER'S SO LOW THAT WILL THE WATER BE THERE FOR ANYBODY? UM, BUT I WOULD CHECK, UH, CALL YOUR CONTACT SURE.IN, IN RICHMOND AND SEE, UM, WHAT, UH, IF, IF, IF THEY HAVE ANY ROOM ANYWAY.
UH, FELIX, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES.
IF, IF, UH, WE WERE TO GO THROUGH IT, I MEAN, WHERE DOES IT STOP? DO WE, ARE WE SURE WE'RE NOT GONNA INCREASE IT AGAIN THE FOLLOWING YEAR? I MEAN, IT'S GONNA INCREASE EVERY YEAR.
EVERY YEAR, BUT ALSO IT, UM, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE INCREASED NOT LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO, UM, I MEAN, WE DON'T INCREASE EVERY YEAR, BUT BASED ON THE WAY THE NUMBERS ARE AND THE INCREASES WE'RE GETTING FROM BWA, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD INCREASE AGAIN.
AND IF THE, UH, HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED INTO ANY, LIKE HEALTH MEANING GRANTS, LIKE THE FORT BEND, WHAT IS IT? THE FORT BEND SUBSIDY, SUB SUBSIDED.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T OFFER, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY GRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MANDATED THIS ON US.
THEY'RE MAKING THE UNFUNDED MANDATES.
THEY'RE THE ONES, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER RACKET.
BUT THERE'S NO OTHER GRANTS WE CAN LOOK INTO TO GET HELP TO, I MEAN, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS, THE LEGISLATOR JUST PASSED SOMETHING THAT'S PUTTING, UM, AN ITEM ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO PROVIDE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TEXAS FOR WATER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
I JUST HEARD ABOUT IT LAST WEEK.
BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN GET ANY GRANT MONEY.
AND FELIX, THIS WOULD BE AN OPERATING EXPENSE.
USUALLY GRANTS WON'T COVER OPERATING EXPENSE.
THEY'RE LIKE USUALLY A GRANT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF GOTCHA.
LET'S SAY FOR THE WATER PLANT.
OR A PORTION OF THE WATER PLANT.
BUT, UM, BUT, UH, I WOULD RATHER FIND OTHER WAYS TO, TO HELP THE HEALTH OF THE, UH, OF THE FUND THAN TO JUST, OH, LET'S PASS IT ALONG.
BUT HECTOR MADE A MOTION, YOU GOTTA GO AHEAD.
MAYOR, THIS ACTUALLY ISN'T AN ACTION ITEM, IT'S JUST TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.
WELL, UM, REMEMBER THIS CAME FROM THE WORKSHOP FROM LAST WEEK, SO IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, BUT OH, OKAY.
BASED ON COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS, WE WOULD BRING THE ORDINANCE BACK FOR APPROVAL.
WHAT OTHER WATER SOURCES DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE? I MEAN, WATER'S GONNA BE A BIG DEAL AND, AND WE NEED TO LIKE LOCK UP AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, WATER SOURCE SAFETY.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE A WATER PLANT.
YEAH, WELL, I MEAN THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT A SURFACE WATER PLANT TO HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
AND THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS REACHING BACK OUT TO BWA AND HAVE THEM BUILD ANOTHER PIPELINE, UM, TO SUPPLY US MORE WATER.
SO WE CAN ONLY SEE WHAT OUR WATER RATES WOULD BE AT THAT POINT.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO EXPLORE ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
I REMEMBER PART OF THE DEAL WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO SELL SOME OF OUR WATER FROM THAT AGREEMENT.
UH, BUT YOU DON'T MAKE NO MONEY OFF THAT CELL.
'CAUSE I, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK WHAT MAYOR'S TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONE WE'RE GIVING, UH, NOT GIVING IT TO SELLING IT TO SUGARLAND.
I THINK THAT STOPPED RIGHT? OR IS IT GALVESTON? NO, NO.
WE MUD TO NEVILLE AND TO THE MUDS.
AND CHARLIE, YOU WANT TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THAT? AND, AND WE DO SELL WATER TO THE, TO THE DIFFERENT, TO THE DIFFERENT MUDS AS A, ON A WHOLESALE WATER RATE.
BUT AS FAR AS, UM, WELL PEOPLE, PEOPLE CALL ME ALL THE TIME AND WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR WATER BILL AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT IS THIS SUBSIDENCE FEE? AND THAT, THAT IS GONNA REFLECT WITH THIS INCREASE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YOU DON'T LIVE IN, YOU DON'T GET THE, WELL, YOU PROBABLY DO GET THE CALLS TOO HERE.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE GET 'EM.
AND WHEN WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN AND JUSTIFY 'EM, THERE'S NO WAY I'M GOING TO, I'M GONNA SIT HERE TONIGHT AND SAY, UH, RAISE IT.
I'M GONNA SAY, LOOK FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
BUT I'M SORRY, CHARLIE, UM, WHO WERE THE GONNA, THE OTHER CUSTOMERS GONNA BE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DEAL WHEN VINCENT WAS, WAS MAYOR, SUPPOSEDLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE ALL THIS EXTRA CAPACITY AND WE COULD SELL OFF SOME OF OUR SHARES.
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT? UH, IT WAS, IT WAS THE, UM, ORIGINAL DEAL WAS WITH RICHMOND AND ROSENBERG.
UM, THE, THERE WAS SOME, WHEN WE WENT TO VWA, THERE WERE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO SELL SOME WATER BETWEEN US AND THEM.
UM, THERE'S ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
AUSTIN POINT AND DOWN IN THE SOUTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY, WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR ALTERNATE WATER SUPPLY FROM.
UM, MAYBE BWA HAS A ROLE IN THAT.
WE HAVE TO ALSO REMEMBER WE HAVE 4,500
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ACRE FEET OF PER YEAR OF WATER FROM THE BRA RIVER AUTHORITY THAT FOR EVERY YEAR, FOR MANY YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SELL THAT WATER TO, UH, GULF COAST WATER AUTHORITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.AND NOW WE'RE SELLING IT TO PWA.
BUT THAT, THAT'S ABOUT 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF WATER THAT THAT SURFACE WATER PLANT COULD USE, UM, TO SUPPLY THE NEEDS TO THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, YOU'RE WANTING A CONSENSUS? YES SIR.
JUST A CONSENSUS ON THE 20 CENT INCREASE SO THAT WE CAN PREPARE AN ORDINANCE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S JUST, LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU BUSINESS, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY.
IF, IF WE CAN JUST KIND OF KEEP EXPLORING TO SEE IF, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
I MEAN, IF AT THE END OF THE DAY IF THERE'S NOT, THEN THERE'S NOT.
BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADVANCE.
SHE WANTS US TO MAKE A DECISION.
UH, AND SO WHAT, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS POLL Y'ALL, BUT UH, RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A POLL.
YEAH, I DON'T, I'M, I THINK WE HAVE TO, I DON'T THINK WE, UM, HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE THIS IS THE, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE IN THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING.
THE SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT IS RUNNING ALL THIS AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
WE, WE CAN'T PUMP OUR OWN WATER AT SOME POINT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, APPROVE A RATE INCREASE NEXT WEEK, BUT WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT, WE'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT WHERE, HEY, IT'S SO, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF 20 LITTLE 20 CENT INCREASES, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH DO IT LIKE A DOLLAR.
SO IT'S GONNA BECOME A PROBLEM AT SOME POINT.
AND, AND, UH, HERE'S SOMETHING TOO, AND I'M SORT TO SOUND LUXURY, THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FUND BALANCE.
WHAT, WHAT'S OUR FUND BALANCE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? JUST IN WHICH FUND? THE GENERAL FUND? UM, PROBABLY ABOUT 19 MILLION.
I'LL JUST SPEAK PHILOSOPHICALLY.
I IT'S NOT THE MISSION OF A GOVERNMENT TO MAKE MONEY.
SO WHATEVER WE COLLECT, WE NEED TO, YES, WE HAVE TO SAVE SOME FOR HICCUPS IN THE ROAD AND THIS AND THAT.
I'D RATHER LOOK FOR WAYS TO SUBSIDIZE OR TO HELP HELP THIS FUND THAN TO JUST IMMEDIATELY PASS IT ON.
BUT AT THE END, IN THE END, IT'LL BE A GROUP.
IT'LL BE A, UH, A GROUP DECISION HERE.
SO, UH, GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? I THINK WE JUST, UH, SIT, SIT DOWN AND WAIT, SEE WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
I I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF AGREEING TONIGHT TO, TO PREPARE THE ORDINANCE TO RAISE IT.
SO HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.
IS THERE SHE NEEDS TO, OUT OF FAIRNESS TO JOYCE AND HER STAFF, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW, ARE THERE FOUR OUTTA SEVEN OF US INTERESTED IN RAISING AND PUTTING IT ON? MAYOR, IT'S NOT RAISING A DOLLAR 50 TO ME IS NOT, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING, I CAN UNDERSTAND IF SHE WAS, UH, IF STAFF WAS SAYING 20, $30, I'LL BE AGAINST IT.
BUT LIKE, UH, COUNSELOR OLSON SAID, I'D RATHER DO A DOLLAR 50 AT A TIME WHILE WE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HERE IN THE FUTURE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY SAY, HEY, UH, WE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, UH, A, A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN, UH, WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR WE'LL BUILD IT AND WE'LL, WE WILL, WE WILL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
SO I'M WITH COUNSELOR OLSON, WHERE, YOU KNOW, LET'S I UNDERSTAND A DOLLAR 50.
I MEAN, IF IT'S NOT MUCH YEAH, HECTOR, OKAY.
WE KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOR IT.
LET YEAH, BUT LET ME EXPLAIN MYSELF.
BUT TO THE COUNCIL, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCILOR RICHARD SAID, IF WE DO IT IN INCREMENTS, SMALL INCREMENTS, IT'S NOT GONNA HURT US BAD AS WHEN YOU DO FIVE OR SIX, $7 AT ONE TIME, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE A BIG, SO I KNOW YOU WANNA TAKE PROPOSAL.
WE'VE NEVER DONE FIVE OR SIX, $7 AT A TIME.
THE TOTAL, SHE'S ASKING FROM 2 75 TO 2 95.
SO THAT WOULD BE A 20 20 CENTS.
SO, UM, I'M A NO GEORGE, ARE YOU A NO OR A YES TO RAISE IT? YOU WANNA RAISE YOUR WATER BILLS? YES OR NO? NO.
RICHARD, YES OR NO? THE WAY YOU ASKED HIM, IT'S, YEAH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU, YES OR NO? I WANT TO LOOK INTO, UM, BUT SHE NEEDS DIRECTION.
I'M GONNA FIGURE WHAT JOYCE SAID.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE A YES, JESSICA AND I AND I THOUGHT I SAID WHAT
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YOU SAID, BUT YOU SAID THAT I DIDN'T.BUT WHAT I SAID WAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE.
WELL, FOR NOW, WELL, I DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE YOU SUMMARIZED WHAT I SAY AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WHAT I SAID SOMETIMES.
OKAY, SO, SO I'M NOT SAYING NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY EXPLORED WHAT YOU SUGGESTED SOME OTHER WAY TO SUBSIDIZE THAT COST, IF THAT'S THE ONLY RESORT, THEN I WOULD BE FOR IT.
BUT I JUST WASN'T SURE THAT WE HAD EXHAUSTED ALL OF OUR RESOURCES.
WE HAVEN'T THIS UM, THIS PROPOSED INCREASE REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A NEW SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR GETTING MORE WATER, GET WATER FROM RICHMOND, GETTING MORE WATER FROM BWA.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CURRENT OPERATIONAL COST.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE FAIR, WE'RE ONLY GOING UP ABOUT HALF OF THAT AT 20 CENTS.
SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OPTIONS AND THINGS Y'ALL ARE TELLING US TO LOOK AT.
AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
BUT THIS IS MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL TO, TO KEEP THE FUND IN BALANCE.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A SMALL INCREASE.
AND DO YOU THINK THAT IF WE DIDN'T DO IT, THAT THERE WOULD BE LIKE SOME BIGGER CRISIS DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT'S, WELL, IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS INCREASE, WE'RE JUST PUSHING IT OFF.
SO I MEAN WE CAN PUSH IT OFF AND THEN FROM NOW WE'RE GONNA NEED A MUCH BIGGER INCREASE TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
UM, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, THE MAYOR HAD SAID WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE MONEY AND DEFINITELY WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE MONEY.
BUT YOU CAN SEE BY THIS CHART HERE THAT IN 2028 WE'RE, WE'RE OUTTA MONEY IN THIS FUND.
SO WE WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
YEAH, BUT YOU HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD.
MAKE UP $4 MILLION, UM, TO MAKE UP $4 MILLION WOULD BE A VERY LARGE INCREASE.
SO WE'RE TRYING, AND IT PROBABLY INCREASED PROPERTY TAX IN 2028 TOO.
AND THEN WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, THIS WAY FOR YEARS.
I MEAN, EVERY TIME I SHOW Y'ALL THIS CHART IN, IN THREE YEARS, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY.
BUT WE MAKE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS AND WE KEEP PUSHING THAT BACK.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE, IS TO PUSH BACK THAT POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND ANY OF THE OTHER SOLUTIONS IS FINE.
BUT THAT'S YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE, UH, PROBLEM.
I'M, AND IT'S NOT, SHE SAID IT'S A 2028 PROBLEM.
SO YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK TO YOU? NO.
ARE YOU, SHE SHE NEEDS DIRECTION.
I ANSWERED, I SAID IF, IF THIS, IF WE'VE EXHAUSTED EVERY OTHER ALTERNATIVE AND IF THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH SOME BIGGER ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD, THEN I WOULD PROBABLY SUPPORT IT.
UM, I GUESS I, I WOULD RATHER PAY A LITTLE AT A TIME THAN A BIG CHUNK.
SO, UM, I MEAN IF THERE'S NO OTHER WAY AROUND IT, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH, THERE'S ENOUGH THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT.
WE'LL COME BACK AS AN ORDINANCE.
AND THEN Y'ALL CAN VOTE AT THAT TIME.
[4. Review and discuss proposed amendments to the Unified Development Code, Chapter 1, Sections 1-417, 1-422, 1-478, and 1-481, pertaining to screening and fencing requirements, and Chapter 4, Section 4-68, pertaining to rear building lines for single-family lots, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
OKAY.SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER FOUR, REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
CHAPTER ONE SECTIONS ONE DASH 4 17 1 DASH 4 22 1 DASH 4 78 AND ONE DASH 4 81 PERTAINING TO SCREENING AND FENCING REQUIREMENTS.
AND CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION FOUR DASH 68 PERTAINING TO REAR BUILDING LINES FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.
UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN ACTIVELY REVIEWING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CONSIDERING POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO IMPROVE CLARITY, CONSISTENCY, AND APPLICABILITY OF REGULATIONS OVER THE PAST THREE MONTHS AT THE COMMISSION'S REGULAR PLAN, UH, MEETINGS.
DISCUSSION, UH, THEY HAVE FOCUS ON REAR SETBACKS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS WELL AS FENCING AND THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL.
AT THE MAY 21ST, 2025, REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE COMMISSION, CONDU CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW AND HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTERS ONE AND FOUR OF THE UDC.
UH, KEY POINTS OF THESE DISCUSSIONS OF RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE RE SETBACK FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND, UH, BASICALLY THE CURRENT UDC DOES NOT ESTABLISH A DEFINED REAR SETBACK FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THE COMMISSION EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR AMENDING THE UDC TO ESTABLISH A MINIMUM REAR SETBACK OF 15 FEET FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
ALSO ON THE FENCING AND THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
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AND THAT'S CHAPTER ONE THAT THE COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO FENCING AND A SCREENING STANDARD FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD APPLY TO THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS.
SECTION ONE DASH 4 17, 1 DASH 4 22 AND ONE DASH 4 78 AND ONE DASH 4 81.
NOW, UM, HERE SOME OF THOSE, UH, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, UH, SECTION FOUR DASH 68 BASICALLY ESTABLISHES A 15 FOOT REAR BUILDING LINE FOR, FOR THE MAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR PATIOS, CANOPIES AND AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSORS AND SIMILAR EQUIPMENT ENCROACH INTO THE REAR LINE TO A CERTAIN LIMIT.
ALSO, ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES SUCH AS THE STORAGE BUILDINGS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE REAR YARD WITH A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE A ZERO SETBACK, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR REAR FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
SO, BUT WHAT ABOUT FOR A SHED OR, OR A PATIO? FOR A SHADOW PATIO? UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT TALKS ABOUT IT AT ALL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SET A 15 FOOT SETBACK.
SO THE SETBACK, THE 15 FOOT WILL BE FOR THE MAIN BUILDING FOR THE MAIN HOUSE, BUT WITHIN THAT 15 FOOT YOU CAN STILL PUT YOUR STORAGE BUILDING BUT WITH A FIVE FOOT, NOT 15 SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
I DISAGREE WITH THAT ON, ESPECIALLY IN THE REAR.
YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT? HAVING A, A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON YOUR REAR.
SO BASICALLY THEY WANT YOU TO, FROM YOUR FENCE LINE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A, A NEW SHED IN BEHIND YOUR HAT, YOUR HOUSE, YOU GOTTA BE FIVE FOOT AWAY FROM YOUR FENCE.
BUT ISN'T THERE ALREADY AN EASEMENT IN SOME PLACES IS.
SO HOW DOES THAT EASEMENT WORK? FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S AN EASEMENT, AN ALLEYWAY, THE EASEMENT, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST GET A, A PERMISSION FROM THE EASEMENT HOLDER TO PUT SOMETHING ON THAT EASEMENT.
NO, BUT BASICALLY I DON'T THINK SO.
ARE YOU, WHEN YOU SAY SO YOU, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, NEW, UH, A NEW SAY NEW DEVELOPMENT DOWN WHAT? LET'S USE BERLEY FOR EXAMPLE.
AND IF I HAD A HOUSE THERE AND I WANNA BUILD A SHED, I GOTTA BE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM MY FENCE FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE MORE THAN THAT.
IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT.
PROBABLY THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS SAY THAT.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN'T BUILD RIGHT UP ON OUR FENCE.
SO, BUT THE MAIN THING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS
SO ARE COMMEND, SORRY, GARAGE.
THESE ARE JUST THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU CAN SAY THAT AT THREE, YOU COULD REDUCE IT TO THREE IF THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR, BUT IS IT THE CASE THAT THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO, TO CERTAIN PLACES BECAUSE LIKE, THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I'M NOT EXACTLY THE, THAT THE DEVELOPER, WE CAN WRITE IT TO BASICALLY BE EFFECTIVE ON JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
JUST LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE SITE SET BACK.
SO IF YOU ARE BASICALLY HAVE A GRANDFATHER SITUATION, THAT WILL CONTINUE.
BUT IF YOU ARE BUILDING NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT 15 FOOT WOULD APPLY TO THE MAIN BUILDING AND ANY STORAGE BUILDING WILL BE FIVE FOOT FROM THE PRE, FROM THE SIDELINE OR REAR LINE.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I WAS THINKING IS THAT ON A LOT OF THESE NEWER COMMUNITIES, I I I GUESS THEY'RE SAYING IS IF THEY HAVE AN HOA, A LOT OF THEM ALREADY HAVE A BIGGER RESTRICTION SETBACK.
YOU, YOU CAN'T BUILD FIVE FEET UP TO THE FENCE.
UH, WHAT WOULD BE THOSE RESTRICTIONS? THE EASEMENTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EASEMENTS? YEAH.
OR FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU JUST CAN'T, I, I NORMALLY THE HOAS ARE VERY RELAXED SOMETIMES.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PERMITTING PROCEDURE.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S FOR THE EASEMENTS THOUGH.
THE EASEMENT, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY HERE.
AND, AND WE JUST TELL 'EM THAT YOU HAVE TO GO GET PERMISSION FROM THE EASEMENT HOLDER.
AND UM, AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.
THEY JUST PLACE THE, THE BUILDING JUST LIKE THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE VARIANCE HERE.
THERE WAS NO, UH, THE, THE LADY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO GET A PERMIT.
SO SHE BUILT ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A SIT BACK LIKE THIS, THEN YOU'LL PREVENT THAT.
BUT THEN, SO, SO WOULD WE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN EACH STRUCTURE WAS PLACED THERE? 'CAUSE WHAT IF SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS LIKE A SHED OR SOMETHING? NO, THAT'S GRANDFATHER THEN.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY PUT IT THERE? SO THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND APPLY FOR A PERMIT WITH THE CITY.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T LIKE AN, BUT IF I RECALL, I THINK IF YOU'RE BUILDING ANYTHING UNDER 144 SQUARE FEET FOR A SHED, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT CHOICE.
AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO IF YOU'RE BUILDING A 10 BY 10, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.
NOW THE WAY WE'RE RIDING IT, YOU HAVE TO COME AND APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE DISTANT ENOUGH FROM YOUR NEIGHBOR.
AND WHAT'S THE REASON IF IT, IF IT'S NEVER
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MATTERED, WHY DOES IT MATTER NOW? WELL IT'S, IT'S FOR SAFETY, FOR PROTECTION.YOU KNOW, UH, FIRE CAN CATCH AND CAN GO SPREAD ACROSS PROPERTY LINES.
AND IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY REVIEW.
SO IF YOUR NEIGHBOR IS PUTTING A STRUCTURE NEXT TO YOU, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO COME AND GET A PERMIT FROM THE CITY.
SO YOU WILL REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOT PLACED ON AN EASEMENT.
IT GIVES US ALL THIS ABILITY TO, TO TO REVIEW THAT PERMIT AND, AND, AND ENSURE IT'S MEETING THESE REQUIREMENTS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AND WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE COMING AND SAYING, MY NEVER DID THIS OR THAT.
I'M JUST GENERALLY AGAINST OVERREGULATING.
BUT BUILDING ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT, THEN I COULD, I COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON THEIR OWN WILL.
'CAUSE I KNOW LIKE CERTAIN SUBDIVISIONS THAT YOU GOT THE, WHAT IS IT, CABLE, TELEPHONE EASEMENTS? YEAH.
SO THIS, THIS, AND I'VE HEARD THAT OVERLAPPED WITH THE SEVEN.
SO IT'S JUST EXPANDING THAT BASICALLY.
SO, WELL I THINK IT'S SEVEN IF YOU HAVE A BACK NEIGHBOR.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BACK NEIGHBOR, I THINK IT'S BIGGER, RIGHT? THE EASEMENT, UTILITY EASEMENT.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S SEVEN ON THEIR SIDE.
SEVEN ON YOUR SIDE IT SAYS 14.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BACK NEIGHBOR, I THINK IT'S 14.
AND SO THIS 15 JUST OVERLAPS WITH THAT 14 TECHNICALLY.
BUT IT JUST MOVES THAT REGULATION TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE EASEMENT IS NOT ALWAYS OWNED BY THE CITY.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON TO MAKE IT 15 RATHER THAN 14? LIKE WITH THE REAR SETBACK ON THE ADJACENT TO A REAR STREET OR ALLEY? LIKE WHY NOT MAKE IT JUST CONSISTENT WITH THE EASEMENT? PLANNING COMMISSION JUST GOES 15.
YOU CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT 14 IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE ADJUSTED TO 14.
DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION VET THIS? THIS IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION? ABSOLUTELY.
AND AND IT WASN'T JUST WILLY-NILLY.
WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THIS? SO, UM, THE REASON FOR IT IS JUST, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SEPARATION BETWEEN N SO, UH, AND THIS IS REALLY THE 15 IS FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
REMEMBER, IT'S NOT FOR STORAGE BUILDINGS, STORAGE BUILDINGS, CANNABIS.
THIS IS FOR THE MAIN BUILDING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SITE 10, RIGHT? WE FROM FIVE TO 10.
SO WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT BACK IS NOW 15, WHICH PRETTY MUCH OVERLAPS WITH A 14.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF, IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO BUILD A NEW HOME, HE HAS TO BE 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY? THE BACKYARD.
FROM THE BACKYARD, FROM THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN FROM THE REAR PROPERTY.
YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM 15 FEET OF PROPERTY IN, IN THE BACKYARD.
BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
INSTEAD OF GIVING HIM 10 FOOT OF PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND THEN THERE'S, SO THAT GIVES YOU A REALLY GOOD YARD, GOOD YARD.
NOW YOU CAN STILL PUT A STORAGE BUILDING, YOU CAN STILL BUILD YOUR PATIO AND ALL OF THAT STUFF IN IT.
BUT ON THE STORAGE BUILDING, I, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO GO TO THE, ALL THE WAY TO YOUR FENCE LINE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT A SMALL YARD LIKE THAT, YOU GOT FIVE FEET.
NOW YOU ONLY GOT FIVE FEET OF ROOM BETWEEN YOUR HOUSE.
NOW I THOUGHT YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH NOT YOURS, BUT WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S.
NO, I MEAN, I WAS JUST WONDERING.
NO, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS SIDE NOT BACKYARD.
WELL, HOW ABOUT A POOL? BECAUSE SOME OF THESE YARDS ARE TIGHT AND IF THEY WANNA PUT A POOL, I THINK MY POOL COULD STILL PUT A POOL FIVE FOOT.
WELL THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I KNOW WHATEVER I DO KNOW ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH A ISSUE WITH YOUR POOL ALGEBRA EQUATION, TRYING TO PUT A POOL BACK THERE.
'CAUSE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF RULES.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL THERE'S ALREADY EASEMENTS AND THERE'S HOA AND NOW WE'VE GOT THIS.
AND IT'S JUST A NIGHTMARE FOR PEOPLE TO USE THEIR OWN YARD.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T MIND IF THEY HAVE TO COME GET A PERMIT, BUT COME ON, LET 'EM BUILD SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN BACKYARD BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO GET PERMITS TO DO THE POOL AND EVERYTHING AND, OR YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH HOA AND AND LIKE, AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
THEY THINK, OH, I WENT THROUGH MY HOA OR OH, I GOT THE PERMIT.
IT JUST LIKE THAT, UH, LADY THAT CAME UP TODAY, SHE WENT TO HER HOA AND I'M SURE SHE'S PRETTY STRESSED OUT BECAUSE I THINK SHE ALREADY BUILT THAT.
AND NOW SHE'S COMING IN AFTER THE FACT.
SO THIS 15 FOOT SETBACK IS JUST FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
AND THAT MAIN BUILDING IS BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER, BY THE BUILDER.
IT'S NOT BUILT BY YOU OR BY ANYONE.
NOW IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AND PUT A PATIO, PUT A STORAGE BUILDING, YOUR SETBACK IS ONLY FIVE FEET TECHNICALLY.
SO THAT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T APPLY IT.
SO IT'S, IT REALLY, IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT'S A SETBACK FOR PULLS FIVE FEET.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT MINES FROM.
UH, OURS, OURS WAS SEVEN BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENT.
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CODE IS REALLY SILENT.IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT I MEAN, UNLESS IF IT'S IN THE BUILDING CODE.
BUT THE UDC DOES NOT HAVE ANY SETBACK FOR POOLS.
IT'S THE EASEMENTS THAT MAKE IT.
SO YOU COULD BASICALLY JUST THE EASEMENT.
YOU CAN BUILD A POOL TO YOUR FENCE, I GUESS.
NO, NOT IF YOU HAVE THE EASEMENT.
I HAVE, IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT, YOU CANNOT DO IT.
BUT IF THERE'S NOT AN EASEMENT, YOU CAN PUT IT TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
WELL, OR WE DON'T HAVE EI MEAN WE HAVE THE ALLEYS, BUT THAT'S OUR EASEMENT.
BUT SO I, SO BASICALLY IF I WANT TO BUILD A NEW NEW SHED, I CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO MY ALLEY.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T, BECAUSE YOUR ALLEY'S THERE FOR THE EASEMENTS RATHER THAN YOUR YARD SERVING AS THAT.
BUT I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT LIKE, IF I WAS TO MOVE OUT, 'CAUSE THE MAYOR, HE DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR ME NO MORE.
AND I MOVE OUT, UH, AND I GO TO THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HAVE A FENCE WITH NO EASEMENT.
AND MY NEIGHBOR DOESN'T HAVE AN EASEMENT EITHER.
HE'S SAYING I HAVE TO BE FIVE FEET AWAY.
AND I THINK YOU, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LEASE, YOU KNOW, FIVE FEET IS A LOT.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU ONLY HAVE, IF IF THE DEVELOPER BUILDS 15 FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THAT HOME, NOW YOU JUST GOT FIVE PLUS ANOTHER 10 50 YARD ALREADY CLOSE TO YOUR OTHER, TO YOUR HOME.
WELL, BUT I DON'T, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT THE FIVE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOSTLY THE 15, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT BOTH.
BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADJUST IT.
IF YOU ARE, IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO GO LOWER THAN 15 OR FIVE NO, I'M OKAY WITH THE 15.
AND THE ONLY THING I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT OKAY.
IS WHERE IF YOU WANNA BUILD A SHED OR A PATIO, THAT'S WHERE I'M, I FEEL THAT YOU OUGHT LET THE PROPERTY OWNERS, I MEAN THEY'RE PAYING TAXES ON THEIR PRODUCT.
LET 'EM BUILD TO A LEASE TO THE FENCE LINE.
SO TECHNICALLY YOU REALLY CAN'T BUILD TO THE FENCE LINE.
'CAUSE IF THERE'S A FENCE, IT'S HARD TO BUILD ANYWAY.
TWO, THREE, YOU CAN DO IT ONE OR TWO FEET.
YOU COULD DO TWO, THREE IF, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HAVE SEEN CITIES WHERE THEY SAY IT'S FIVE BY THREE WITH APPROVAL FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BUILDING OFFICIAL IS GONNA LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT CLOSER, THEN THAT BUILDING NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHLY RATED.
SO THERE REALLY NO FIRE THAT ACTUALLY GOES FROM THIS HOUSE TO THE OTHER OR FROM ONE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER.
SO THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR IT.
SO IT COULD BE REDUCED TO THREE.
I DUNNO, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS JESSICA? YOU I DON'T LIKE OVERREGULATING PEOPLE.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S YOUR, I ALWAYS HAVE THIS ATTITUDE ANYWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SUCH THING AS OWNING PROPERTY IN TEXAS.
'CAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY YOUR TAXES.
AND NOW THAT YOU KNOW IT JUST, WHAT IS THE MAIN THING YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PAST THE 15 FEET? BOTH AND SOME OTHER STUFF.
WELL, THIS IS JUST FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY.
WE HAVE OTHER STUFF THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT HERE.
UH, PERHAPS WE SHOULD JUST BREAK OUT THAT, THAT 15 FEET AND NOT APPROVE THE REST OF IT UNTIL REVIEW IT MORE.
BECAUSE I DO WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING.
I THINK I TOLD JOYCE I WANNA MEET WITH Y'ALL ABOUT, I HAVE SOME CONSTITUENTS CALL THIS WAY.
ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT? UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN HOUSE OR THE GARAGE, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT POOLS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SHAVING.
WE CAN LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY.
WE'RE TALKING FOR THE STORAGE PATIO OR A PORCH.
UH, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE SIZE LOTS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED THOUGH? LIKE IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE? IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FRONT, THE BUILD BACK IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE 15, UM, IN THE BACK.
HOW BIG OF A LOT WOULD YOU NEED? I THINK SO.
'CAUSE THE LOTS ARE STILL 120 DEEP.
RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A LOT DEPTH REQUIREMENT.
WE HAVE A LOT, WE HAVE A LOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND WE HAVE A, A MINIMUM BLOOD AREA SQUARE FOOT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DEPTH, WE DON'T HAVE A STONE SQUARE FOOT.
THAT'S I'M SAYING LIKE MATHEMATICALLY DOES THAT EVEN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR LOT DEPTH SIZE? LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU, IF YOU HAD A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, ONE STORY, HOW BIG WOULD YOUR LOT HAVE TO BE TO COMPLY? 'CAUSE THERE ARE BUILD BACKS IN THE FRONT.
SO OUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE RIGHT NOW IS, UM, 6,500 FOR A SUBDIVISION.
WHAT'S YOUR SETBACK FROM THE FRONT? IF, IF, IF A NEW DEVELOPER WAS COMING, ISN'T IT 25 FEET? 25 FROM THE FRONT? YEAH.
SO IT HAS TO BE 25 FROM THE FRONT AND 15 FROM THE BACK, FROM THE BACK.
AND THEN THAT'S ALREADY 40 FEET.
AND THEN THE HOUSE CAN ONLY BE SO BIG THEN.
UM, SO NORMALLY THEY AVERAGE BETWEEN A HUNDRED TO 120.
SO YOU GOT, BUT BASED ON THE LOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS UH, 7,200, THAT WILL GIVE YOU A LOT DEPTHS OF A HUNDRED FEET.
NO, THAT WILL ONLY GIVE YOU A, THAT WILL ONLY GIVE YOU A DEPTH.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LOT FROM 70, 70 BY A HUNDRED, THAT'S SEVEN, 7,000 SQUARE FEET OR 72 BY A HUNDRED.
THAT ONLY GIVES YOU 60 FEET TO BUILD ON.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD A PATIO, SAY ANOTHER 10 FEET THAT GIVES YOU, NOW YOU'RE 50
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FEET FROM THE FRONT TO THE REAR OF YOUR HOUSE WITH ANOTHER 10 FEET EXTENSION FOR YOUR PATIO.SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT'S WHERE I'M, UH, ON THE SETBACK.
YOU, YOU'RE REALLY I THINK IT'S GOING TO, I THINK IT WOULD, DEPENDING ON SOMEONE'S LOT SIZE THAT MIGHT LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE YOU COULD HAVE.
BUT, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE HERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BUT THAT, BUT THAT LOT SIZE IS MORE OF, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S LEFT AND RIGHT OR FRONT AND BACK IS WHEN YOU SAY LOT SIZE, IT DOES MATTER.
'CAUSE WE APPROVE A 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FRONT TO BACK RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU GOT A 25 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE FRONT.
AND THEN NOW 15 AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 1515.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M LIKE, YOU CAN HAVE LIKE A LONG RECTANGLE HOUSE.
I JUST, I COULD, I WOULD HAVE TO PICTURE IT.
LIKE WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW BIG OF A HOUSE? YEAH, YOU CAN, CAN WE TABLE THIS FOR THE NEXT WORKSHOP AND BRING US SOME PICTURES? LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD FIT.
I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE TABLE IT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER YES SECTIONS.
JUST, UM, THE, THE NEXT SECTION DEALS WITH, UM, CLARIFYING, EXPANDING SCREENING REQUIREMENT FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE AND MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR NOT RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT CURRENTLY APPLY ONLY WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AREA.
AND THIS WOULD BASICALLY APPLY CITYWIDE.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD APPLY ONLY TO THE CORRIDOR AREAS.
THOSE ARE THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS IN THE CITY.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TRY AND APPLY THIS CITYWIDE.
BASICALLY IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND YOU HAVE AN OUTSIDE STORAGE, BASICALLY IN THE CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS, IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO SCREEN THEM BY A FORM OF, UH, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE I DRIVE THERE ALL THE TIME GOING TOWARDS, UM, WHAT IS THAT 5 29, 5 21 GOING TOWARDS 59.
THERE'S A NEW BUSINESS WITH, UM, HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
THERE'S NO FENCING, THERE'S NO FENCE THERE.
YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT? NO, NO, NOT NECESSARILY.
BUT I SEE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE OUTSIDE EX EXPOSURES TO THEIR EQUIPMENT AND THERE'S NOTHING.
WELL, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT TONIGHT, LET'S JUST TABLE THAT.
LET'S JUST GO ONTO ANOTHER ITEM.
LET'S TABLE IT AND WE'LL COME BACK BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE, YOU KEEP GOING BACK ON.
I'LL MOTION TO TABLE THIS SECOND.
I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
WELL, SO YOU, YOU DO WANNA VOTE TO TABLE IT, BUT DO YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK AT THE WORKSHOP? NEXT WORKSHOP.
SO JUST SAY THAT IN YOUR, IN YOUR MOTION TO TABLE.
YEAH, I'LL TABLE IT TO BRING IT BACK ON THE NEXT WORKSHOP.
HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WITH PICTURES, SO SURE.
JESSICA AND I COULD SEE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOUSE AND ALL THAT.
YOU AND YOU AND JESSICA NEED TO ALSO FOLLOW UP WITH THESE FOLKS.
I WILL BEFORE, IF YOU'RE THAT INTERESTED, GET, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GET THE RUNDOWN.
I'M HAVING A MEETING ALREADY, MAYOR.
OH, SORRY TO TAKE AND I'LL SECOND.
OH, I HAD ALREADY, I NEED A SECOND.
I THOUGHT I'D HIT IT AS IT TOOK IT OFF.
I THINK WE DID IT AT THE SAME TIME.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PUSH GREEN.
OR SAY YES IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY NO.
[5. Review and discuss the inclusion of Animal Control and Shelter Reports on future City Council meeting agendas, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Richard Olson, Councilor, At-Large Position No. 1) ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.REVIEW AND DISCUSS INCLUSION OF ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER REPORTS ON A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
UH, AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.
RICHARD WANTS TO KNOW 'CAUSE WE NEED TO, UM, WE NEED TO POLL.
THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA BE ANOTHER SURVEY DEAL IF Y'ALL STILL WISH TO.
UH, LET ME JUST SAY I, IN THE, IN THE LAST CAMPAIGN, I, I MADE A PLEDGE TO PUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER REPORT ON THE MONTHLY WORKSHOP.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL DID.
MAYBE YOU DID, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T.
I KNOW I DID, BUT MAYBE Y'ALL DIDN'T.
AND IF Y'ALL, IF, IF, IF THE GROUP SO CHOOSES TO NOT HAVE IT ON THERE, THEN I'D BE OUTVOTED.
UM, SO DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
I I JUST THINK IT'S TOO MUCH REDUNDANCY.
WE HAVE THE REPORT, IT, IT GOES TO THE ANIMAL COMMITTEE, IT GOES ONLINE.
ANYBODY THAT HAS QUESTIONS CAN ASK THE CHIEF.
UM, ALL IT IS, IS A PLATFORM TO ATTACK OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND I JUST THINK WASTE A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS.
SO I'M JUST WANTED TO, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, GET A POLL.
SEE WHO WANT, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH IT, DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY VIEW THIS INFORMATION? I DON'T
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HAVE ANY NUMBERS, BUT LIKE THE WEBSITE? YEAH, LIKE THE WEBSITE.DO THEY EVER LOOK UP? THE POINT OF IT IS, IT'S, YOU DON'T WANNA, IT'S AN OPTION.
WE'RE NOT SURE WE REALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TRACKED IT OR NOT, BUT PEOPLE HAVE THE OPTION TO, TO VIEW OR NOT VIEW OR GO BACK.
AND I THINK IT'S, AS LONG AS WE ARE HAVING THE REPORT DONE AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, I I AGREE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IMPORTANT FOR US TO READ IT OUT LOUD TO PEOPLE.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND THAT IT'S AVAILABLE.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO VIEW THE REPORT CAN JUST GO ON THE WEBSITE AND SEE IT.
SO I, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH NOT DOING IT AT THE MEETING SO LONG AS WE STILL DO THE REPORT AND IT'S STILL AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, THEY CAN SURELY BRING 'EM TO THE, UM, ANIMAL BOARD MEETING AND WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
MY, MY THINKING, UH, FOR HAVING IT ON, ON THERE BESIDE IT BEING A PLEDGE, IS I WAS HOPEFUL THAT FOLKS, UM, IF THEY DIDN'T FEEL SATISFIED WITH THE ANIMAL BOARD MEETINGS, THEY COULD COME HERE AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
BUT, UH, THEY DIDN'T VERY MUCH WHEN THEY DID, IT WAS JUST ATTACKS.
UM, THEY, THEY PREFER TO GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND HAVE ONE WAY ATTACKS ON US.
UM, AGAIN, MY PREFERENCE IS TO HAVE THE REPORT MONTHLY, BUT, UH, IT, IT'S A GROUP DECISION.
WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, WE HAVE CREWS THAT PATCH POTHOLES.
THE, WE DON'T NEED A REPORT ON THAT.
AND I'M SURE THERE IS ONE SOMEWHERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IT, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
TWO THAT WANNA SAY SCRATCH IT.
WELL KEEP THE REPORT, BUT JUST WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE ACCOUNT.
BUT AS FAR AS DO IT HERE AT THE WORKSHOP, UM, LET'S GO FELIX, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE IT UP ONLINE LIKE JESSICA WAS SAYING, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D HAVE TO DO IT ALL THE TIME HERE AT THE WORKSHOP.
WELL THAT'LL BE, Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
WHAT'S STEVE? WELL, PEOPLE, PEOPLE CAN STILL COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT THEIR ISSUES IF THEY HAVE ISSUES.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING, WE CAN'T STOP YOU NOT AT A WORKSHOP UNLESS IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, I MEAN PEOPLE, GENERAL, GENERAL COMMENTS.
NOT, UH, ONLY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.
UH, EVEN UNDER, UH, UH, GENERAL.
YEAH, GENERAL, GENERAL COMMENTS.
THERE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS AT A WORKSHOP.
THERE'S NO GENERAL COMMENTS AT A WORKSHOP.
YEAH, THEY CAN STILL COME AND TELL US HOW THEY FEEL.
WELL, AND THEY CAN ALSO EMAIL US OR CALL OR TEXT US OR CALL US, WHATEVER.
UM, FELIX, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? YOU WANNA LEAVE IT ON? WELL, WELL THE WORKSHOP FIRST OF TAKE IT OFF.
WHO ACTUALLY MAKES 'EM, I MEAN, ARE THEY, UM, WHO ACTUALLY MAKES, IS IT YOU MAKES, WHAT? IS IT A LOT OF TIME CONSUMING OR STILL JUST TAKE A LOT OF TIME? OR? WE'RE STILL GONNA DO THE REPORT.
THEY STILL GOTTA DO THE REPORT.
THEN WELL THEN YEAH, WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT AS, BUT HE'S HERE.
HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S HERE AN EXTRA FOUR OR FIVE HOURS THAT COULD BE SPENT DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
SO DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OFF THE WORKSHOP FELIX, OR DO YOU WANNA LEAVE IT ON? YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL TAKE IT OFF THE WORKSHOP.
I'M GONNA JUST LEAVE IT ON ONLINE.
UH, STEVE, YOU WANNA TAKE IT OFF OR LEAVE IT ON? TAKE IT OFF? UH, HECTOR? NO, LEAVE IT ON.
WAIT, YOU WANNA LEAVE IT ON THE, ON THE WORKSHOP? YES.
YOU WANNA LEAVE IT ON OR TAKE IT OFF? I LEAVE IT ON THREE.
YOU WHAT? I'LL CHANGE, I LEAVE IT ON BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT CARING ABOUT THE ANIMALS.
LET'S JUST PUT IT ON IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN GET ANY MORE FEEDBACK, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.
WE DO HAVE AN OPTION TO DO IT QUARTERLY LIKE WE USED TO.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE RATHER THAN COMPLETELY TAKING IT OFF AS AT ONE TIME.
WELL, SO WOULD IT STILL BE A MONTHLY REPORT AND THEN WE JUST HAVE IT ON THE WORKSHOP QUARTERLY? YES.
ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO DO THAT.
FELIX, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT THE REPORT MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY? NOW THEY'LL STILL DO THE REPORT.
I'M, THEY STILL HAVE THE REPORTS, BUT AS FAR AS PRESENTING, PRESENTING IT LIVE, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT IT DONE EVERY MONTH OR EVERY THREE MONTHS? I'LL JUST DO IT EVERY MONTH.
UH, HECTOR EVERY MONTH OR EVERY THREE MONTHS? EVERY MONTH.
GEORGE? EVERY MONTH OR EVERY THREE MONTHS? YES, SIR.
SO THAT'S FOUR OUTTA SEVEN OF US RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER.
[6. Review and discuss the Animal Control and Shelter monthly report for May 2025, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Jarret Nethery, Assistant Police Chief) ]
TO NUMBER SIX.UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER MONTHLY REPORT
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FOR MAY OF 2025.NOW, CHIEF, THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BLAZE THROUGH THIS.
NO, AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU WANTED IT EVERY MONTH? LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SAY WE WE WEREN'T GONNA BLAZE THROUGH 'EM THOUGH.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, FOR THE, LET'S SEE, I GUESS IT'S NOT HERE.
RICO, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE DEAL SINCE YOU HAD THE REMOTE EARLIER? THERE WE GO.
SO FOR MAY, 2025, HAPPY TALES.
UH, CHARGER WAS A LONG-TERM RESIDENT.
UH, TWO OF OUR VOLUNTEERS TRANSPORTED HIM OR MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO TRANSPORT HIM TO MINNESOTA.
UH, HE'S NOW IN A, IN A HAPPY HOME IN COOLER CLIMATE, IN COOLER CLIMATE'S FOR SURE.
UM, IT'S KITTEN SEASON STILL, AND AS OF MAY, UM, WE HAD A TON OF KITTENS COME IN, UH, GRANT MONEY AT WORK.
UM, WE WERE, UH, FORTUNATE TO, UH, HAVE FUNDS THROUGH DONATIONS TO, UH, AFFORD, UH, MICROCHIPPING FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS FREE SPAY AND NEUTER.
UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT OMAR CAME UP WITH AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE DOING, UH, JUST AS, AS NEEDED.
AND, UH, A LITTLE AT A TIME EACH, EACH MONTH.
UM, WHEN CAN YOU BACK, GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE WHEN YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING THESE, UH, SPAY NEUTER.
I JUST NOTICED, YOU KNOW, I'LL FOLLOW THE FACEBOOK CITY ROSENBERG.
THEY JUST POSTED UP YESTERDAY AND I THINK YOU'RE HAVING ONE TOMORROW, CORRECT? UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DAY, BUT IS IT TOMORROW OR 30? THEY POST IT INTERMITTENTLY THERE.
IS THERE A WAY THAT IF YOU'RE PLANNING ONE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A WEEK IN ADVANCE TO PROMOTE THIS? YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, THE TIMELINE IS.
HOW, HOW FAR IN ADVANCE DO Y'ALL USUALLY, WHAT EVENT ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ONE THIS WEEK, IF I RECALL SEEING SOMETHING, THE CITY OF ROSENBERG SAID THERE WAS GONNA BE AT THE ROSENBERG SHELTER, THERE WAS GONNA BE A SPAIN NEUTER.
SO WE HAVE A FREE MICROCHIP INITIATIVE THAT WE DO, UM, IN THE 4TH OF JULY.
THE REASON WE DO OUR MARKETING THE WAY WE DO IS BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND.
IF WE POST, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR FREE ITEMS, WE COULD VERY EASILY BE OVERWHELMED BY WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN WE'RE PREPARED FOR.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A, A STRATEGY THAT WE USE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVER OVERWHELMING OUR OWN RESOURCES.
SO IT'S JUST LIKE COMING FIRST, COME FIRST SERVE.
I CAN'T OFFER FREE MICROCHIPPING OR FREE SPAY AND NEUTER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AT ONE POINT.
SO THE REASON THAT WE SPACE OUT OUR ADVERTISEMENTS, THOUGH WE DO, IS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REGULATING THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE.
BUT SO I, I FIGURED, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
SO IF YOU DO FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AND GIVE 'EM AT LEAST A WEEK, I THINK YOU'LL STILL BE OVERWHELMED.
EITHER WAY, WE'RE GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVERYBODY WITH I UNDERSTAND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE WAY WE DO THAT.
I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, BUT I THINK YOUR PROMOTION NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT, NOT TWO DAYS IN BEFORE OR THREE DAYS BEFORE.
THERE'S DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR THAT.
SO, SO HECTOR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING A LITTLE MORE PRE ADVERTISED THAN TIME.
WELL, SOMETHING, SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY DO IS TAKE RESERVATIONS AND THEN CUT IT OFF.
BUT, BUT IF WE ANNOUNCE WAY AHEAD OF TIME AND WE DO FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, WE MAY HAVE A TON OF TRAFFIC THAT WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE ONCE WE RUN OUT.
WELL, I MEAN, SO MAYBE RESERVATION BUD, BUD, YOU HAVE THAT TRAFFIC AND MAYBE HOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, I WANNA ADOPT AN ANIMAL.
SAY TAKE TWO
WELL, HOW, HOW SOON ARE Y'ALL ADVERTISING BEFORE AN EVENT? BEFORE THIS, UH, THIS ONE I SEEN, I THINK IT'S UH, TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS.
IS IT JULY 3RD OR JULY 4TH? TOMORROW.
BUT ISN'T IT THE CASE THAT, ISN'T IT THE CASE THAT YOU GUYS ALSO JUST WILL HAVE THIS OFFER FOR THE $20 MICROCHIPS? PEOPLE CAN COME AND GET THE VOUCHER AND THEN JUST GO TO THE VET AND GET THIS BEAR NEUTER? THAT'S SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
RIGHT? BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THIS WAY.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAY, THE WAY THIS EVENT'S HAPPENING, THIS SERVICE IS ALSO AVAILABLE IN OTHER FORMS WHERE YOU CAN JUST GET A VOUCHER AND GO TO THE VET WITHIN, UH, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH TIME A MONTH? WITHIN A MONTH.
SO IF YOU JUST GO IN WHEN THEY'RE OFFERING THIS $20 MICROCHIP, YOU CAN GO IN, DO THE MICROCHIP, AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU A VOUCHER TO GO TO SOUTHWEST VET.
YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING, UH, THE ADVERTISING, YOU KNOW, SO THE RESIDENTS KNOW.
I JUST SEEN IT YESTERDAY, SO I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I JUST POPPED UP ON MY, ON MY FEED AND, YOU
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KNOW, WE COULD DO IT A WEEK BEFORE.HOW LONG, HOW LONG, HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL BEEN PUTTING IT OUT? WELL, IN THIS CASE IT, I GUESS IT WAS A 24 HOUR NOTICE, BUT, AND OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S CUTTING IT CLOSE.
AND YOU KNOW, IN OTHER CASES, PEOPLE AT WORK PROBABLY WANNA DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH ADOPTIONS.
WE'LL DO IT A COUPLE WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME.
ADOPTIONS, YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THEM IN A MONTH, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE.
ANYWAY, SO I THINK HECTOR'S POINT IS, YOU KNOW, TRY, TRY TO START A LITTLE EARLIER WITH THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO ANYWAYS, UH, ANY, ANY OTHER MAIN POINTS THERE? THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL ADOPTION EVENTS.
SO WE ALSO HAD AN EVENT AT CHILDREN'S LIGHTHOUSE.
UM, WE TOOK A, A DOG OVER THERE, WOODY AND UH, THE KIDS WERE ABLE TO PLAY WITH WOODY WOODY'S SINCE BEEN ADOPTED.
UM, BUT JUST A COMMUNITY EVENT TO RAISE AWARENESS.
UH, INTAKES, WE HAD TOTAL A HUNDRED INTAKES, 30 DOGS, 63 CATS, SEVEN OTHER, WHICH IS USUALLY WILDLIFE.
UH, WE HAD 114 TOTAL OUTCOMES.
54 DOGS, 53 CATS, SEVEN OTHER, UM, WE HAD ONE DOG EUTHANIZED.
UH, IT WAS DUE TO A MEDICAL CONCERNS WITH CANCER.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CATS COME IN WITH PAN LUKE, AND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, PAN LUKE IS, UH, I DUNNO IF YOU REMEMBER A WHILE BACK, WE HAD A LOT OF CATS THAT DIED BECAUSE OF PAN LUKE, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S FLOATING AROUND RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE BEING EXTRA CAREFUL WITH THE ANIMALS THAT WE DO BRING IN SO THAT WE DON'T SPREAD IT WITHIN OUR FACILITY.
BUT, UH, WE DID LOSE ONE CAT AND, UH, SORRY, THREE CATS TO PAN LUKE.
UM, ONE WAS EUTHANIZED AND, AND TWO OTHERS I GUESS TESTED POSITIVE PROBABLY AFTER THEY DIED.
BUT NONE EUTHANIZED FOR BEING BITE DOGS OR BEHAVIOR.
WE HAD NO BEHAVIOR EUTHANASIA.
SO THIS IS OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OR A HUNDRED PERCENT NO KILL.
YOU CAN, IF YOU DO, IF YOU SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT, THAT MEANS YOU'RE COOKING THE BOOKS.
WELL, AND THAT'S ALSO WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE REPORT.
NO, I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY IN FAIRNESS, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ABOUT HOW FREQUENTLY DO WE WANNA HAVE THE REPORT HERE MM-HMM
I KNOW WHEN WE POST SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT SAYS 96% AND THAT WERE NO KILL, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE GET IS THAT IT'S, IT'S ALL FALSE.
THAT THEY'RE FAKE NUMBERS, THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, THAT IT'S MEANINGLESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN MY DEFENSE, WHEN I SAY, DO WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS ON THE, ON THE WORKSHOP, IT'S BECAUSE NOBODY, AT LEAST A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE DO THIS REPORT FOR, I THINK WE'RE DOING THIS REPORT FOR A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT.
THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT.
IT'S ALL, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT EVEN HERE TO, TO SEE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT.
THEY THINK THAT, I DON'T DISAGREE.
UM, BUT NO KILL DOES NOT COUNT INJURED OR SICK ANIMALS.
SO NOT NO KILL ACCORDING TO THE NUMBER.
BUT YEAH, WE, WE COUNT IN, IF WE'VE TAKEN THEM INTO OUR, WELL, YOU COULD COUNT 'EM IF, AND THEY'RE UNDER OUR CARE IF WE, WE COUNT THEM.
IF YOU JUST LOOK ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST GO AND YOU LOOK UP NO KILL, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO COUNT.
THAT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR NUMBERS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT EUTHANIZING A DOG FOR CANCER OR EUTHANIZING A CAT FOR PAN LUKE IS, IS KILLING IT BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO GIVE IT TREATMENT UNTIL PUT IT ON HOSPICE.
AND THEY, THAT'S WHERE THEY GIVE YOU THE 10% LEEWAY IS FOR THOSE TYPES OF ALRIGHT.
SO 96% WAS OUR TOTAL LIVE RELEASE RATE.
UM, 98% FOR DOGS, 94 CATS AND A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR OTHER ANIMALS.
UM, WE HAD 119 DISPATCHED ASSIGNMENTS, UH, FOR OUR ACOS.
UH, WE HAD THREE BITE CASES INVESTIGATED, TWO IN PUBLIC, ONE IN THE SHELTER.
UH, WE HAD ONE CRUELTY CASE INVESTIGATED.
UH, WE DID HOST OR OR ATTEND FOUR ADOPTION EVENTS.
UM, WE HAD ONE IN THE SHELTER, WHICH YIELDED TWO DOGS BEING ADOPTED.
WE PARTICIPATED IN EMPTY THE SHELTERS EVENT, WHICH, UM, CONSISTED OF 16 ADOPTIONS, 14 DOGS, TWO CATS.
UM, THERE WAS A PET EVOLUTION ADOPTION EVENT.
UM, AND WE HAD ART IN THE BIN WE ATTENDED AND THERE WAS ONE DOG ADOPTED.
UH, WE DID HAVE 10 OWNER SURRENDER DENIALS.
SUMMER'S ALWAYS BIG FOR OWNER SURRENDER DENIALS BECAUSE, UH, PEOPLE TRAVEL A LOT IN THE SUMMER, ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING.
AND THE PETS THAT, THAT THEY'RE CARING FOR SOME SOMETIMES END UP BECOMING A PROBLEM AT THAT POINT.
THEY DON'T WANNA PAY FOR BOARDING, SO THEY TRY TO SURRENDER 'EM.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT TAKING ON OUR SURRENDERS RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.
SO LASTLY, UH, IT'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE, WE RECEIVED A, UH, AN AWARD, UH, OMAR CAN SHOW IT TO YOU, BUT, UH, FOR 2024, UM, WE RECEIVED THE PLAQUE FOR BEING, UM,
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RECOGNIZED AS A NO KILL SHELTER.SO I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE PLAQUES IN THE PAST.
UM, BUT THIS IS FOR 2024, SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT OFF.
WHO'S THAT FROM? SO THIS IS FROM BEST FRIENDS.
SO THIS IS, UH, IT SAYS NO KILL.
WELL, I KNEW, CONGRATULATIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CONCERNS? UM, I'M JUST LOOKING UP THE DEFINITION OF NO KILL, BUT TOO MUCH.
IT'S NOT ABOUT NUMBERS, IT'S ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHY.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING UP.
I'M LOOKING UP THE, THE PHILOSOPHY HERE, UM, ACCORDING TO THIS, TO BE CONSIDERED NO KILL AN ORGANIZATION NEED TO, UH, HAVE A PLACEMENT RATE OF 90% OR HIGHER.
AND THEN IT SAYS, SO WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 10% DUE TO SEVERE OR UNTREATABLE ILLNESSES OR BEHAVIOR ISSUES.
ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS SOMETIMES FACE THE DIFFICULT DECISION TO EUTHANIZE AN ANIMAL, BUT ONLY WHEN WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OTHER OPTIONS ANYWAY.
UM, I THINK, NO, ACCORDING TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY IN OTHER GROUPS, IT, IT RECOGNIZES, YOU KNOW, ILLNESS AND INJURY AS A REASON TO HAVE TO EUTHANIZE AN ANIMAL.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH JARED.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF OUR ITEMS. WE DON'T HAVE AN ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY PUSHING OR SAYING GREEN.
NO GEORGE, UH, YOU GOTTA VOTE.
I'LL SEE HOPE EVERYBODY, UH, FRIDAY.