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THAT HAPPENS.[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ]
TO ORDER RIGHT NOW AT, UH, 6 32.AND THEN LET'S, UH, STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE BY DR.
RON FERNANDEZ FROM THE HOUSE APPRAISED COMMUNITY CHURCH CENTER ON RADIO LANE.
LORD, GOD ALMIGHTY, WE LOVE, APPRECIATE, HONOR, AND GIVE YOU GLORY FOR YOUR GOODNESS, KINDNESS, AND MERCY.
YOU ARE A GOOD GOD FAITHFUL TO YOUR WORD, ALWAYS AVAILABLE WHEN WE CALL ON YOUR NAME WITH A HEART OF GRATITUDE AND FAITH.
YOUR WORD SAYS IN JEREMIAH 33 AND THREE, CALL UNTO ME AND I'LL ANSWER THEE AND SHOW THE GREAT AND MIGHTY THINGS, WHICH THOU KNOW US NOT.
AND YOU ALSO SAID IN MATTHEW SEVEN, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, ASK AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU.
SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND, KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN TO YOU.
FOR EVERYONE WHO ASKS, RECEIVES, THE ONE WHO SEEKS, FINDS, AND TO THE ONE WHO KNOCKS, THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE PROGRESS, THE PRODUCTIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND FRUITFULNESS THE FIRST HALF OF THIS YEAR, 2025.
AND PRAY THAT THE SECOND HALF WILL END WITH SUCCESS AND GREAT VICTORY.
WE UNDERSTAND TO KEEP A CITY PROSPEROUS AND SUCCESSFUL, IT TAKES WORK AND DIVINE INTERVENTION.
WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH A HUMBLE HEART, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE FALL SHORT IN OUR WORDS, THOUGHTS, AND ACTIONS.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS, YOUR LOVE, YOUR, YOUR PEACE, WISDOM, AND STRENGTH.
YOUR GRACE AND FAVOR ARE SO MUCH NEEDED IN THIS CHAMBER.
AS SO MANY MATTERS ARE DEALT WITH IMPORTANT MATTERS.
WE LIFT IN PRAYER, OUR CITY COUNCIL, LEADERSHIP AND THE MANY MEMBERS, THE MANY, UH, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HELP TO MAKE OUR CITY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN.
WE ASK YOU TO HELP US TO STAY UNITED IN SERVING WITH INTEGRITY, COMPASSION, AND JUSTICE.
WE ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUAL PRESENCE IN THIS ROOM, FILLING IT WITH YOUR PEACE, WISDOM, AND THE SPIRIT OF UNITY.
GUIDE EVERY CONVERSATION, EVERY DECISION, EVERY VOTE.
NOT FOR PERSONAL GAIN OR AMBITION, BUT FOR THE FLOURISHING, THE GROWTH AND SUCCESS OF EVERY PERSON WHO CALLS ROSENBERG THEIR HOME.
GRANT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CLARITY OF MIND, COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND HEARTS THAT CAN SEEK THE COMMON GOOD.
WHEN OPINIONS DIFFER, HELP US TO LISTEN WITH RESPECT, SPEAK WITH GRACE, AND LEAD WITH HUMILITY.
REMIND US THAT TRUE LEADERSHIP IS NOT ABOUT POWER, BUT ABOUT SERVICE.
JUST LIKE JESUS, WHO WASHED HIS DISCIPLES FEET AND TAUGHT US THAT TO BE GREAT, WE NEED TO SERVE.
WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN OUR CITY THAT ARE VULNERABLE, WEAK, DEFENSELESS, HELPLESS, OVERLOOKED, THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND DON'T HAVE A PLATFORM, SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO THEM.
MAY THIS COUNCIL AND THE LEADERS OF OUR CITY ALWAYS ADVOCATE, PROMOTE FOR JUSTICE, FAIRNESS, AND DIGNITY FOR ALL.
LET COMPASSION GUIDE OUR POLICIES AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, SHAPE OUR PLANS.
LET THE ATMOSPHERE IN OUR CITY, ROSENBERG, BE KNOWN NOT ONLY FOR PROGRESS, BUT FOR PEACE.
AND NOT ONLY FOR GROWTH, BUT FOR GRACE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
GOD BLESS THE USA AND GOD BLESS ROSENBERG.
I THINK I THINK YOU COVERED IT IN THAT PRAYER.
I GUESS WE CAN USE ALL THE PRAYERS WE CAN GET AROUND HERE, HUH? THAT'S RIGHT.
[ Announcements. ]
SO WE GOT, UM, THREE ANNOUNCEMENTS.I'LL PUT 'EM IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.
FIRST ONE IS A VACCINE MICROCHIP CLINIC ROSE AT THE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER.
THESE ARE FOR RESIDENTS OF ROSENBERG OR RICHMOND.
IT'S WEDNESDAY, JULY 23RD FROM NINE TO NOON, 9:00 AM TO NOON LIMIT.
THREE ANIMALS PER HOUSEHOLD MUST SHOW VALID ID.
THE NEXT IS A, UH, SHELTER ADOPTION EVENT THAT WILL BE, I ASSUME, AT THE SHELTER SATURDAY, JULY 26TH,
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11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM FREE SNOW CONES AND HOT, UH, HOT DOGS AND POPCORN.UM, WHEN YOU TOUR THE SHELTER.
THIS, THIS IS SPONSORED BY FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG, HOMELESS PETS.
ALL THESE EVENTS LIKE THIS ARE, ARE CONTRIBUTING AND HELPING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THE OVERCROWDING AND OVERPOPULATION OF, UH, OF ANIMALS.
FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG, HOMELESS PETS, CAROLYN, THANK YOU, AND THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS AS WELL AS OUR, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES, OMAR AND THE OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES AT THE SHELTER.
FINALLY, UH, JULY 31ST, ROSEBURG CIVIC CENTER FAMILY.
FAMILY FUN NIGHT IS HAPPENING THURSDAY, JULY 31ST, FIVE TO 8:00 PM THE CIVIC CENTER.
ENJOY EVENING FILLED WITH MUSIC, FOOD, INFLATABLE GAMES, AND MORE TICKETS, ONLY $5.
UH, AND THEY'RE, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO TRY TO PURCHASE YOUR TICKET IN ADVANCE, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS HERE.
KIDS AGES, UH, TWO AND UNDER CAN GET IN FOR FREE.
MY LITTLE GRANDSON IS JUST UNDER TWO.
SO HE'S, HE CAN GET IN FOR OUR FAVORITE PRICE.
COMPLIMENTARY FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CALL 8 3 2 5 9 5 35 20.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANYBODY? ANYBODY TO MY RIGHT? ANYBODY TO MY LEFT? ANYBODY OUT HERE WISH TO ANNOUNCE ANYTHING? NO.
ALRIGHT, THEN THAT'S THE CASE.
WE'LL JUST GET TO OUR, GET TO OUR MEETING.
UM, SO I GUESS YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RULES OR DO YOU WANT ME TO SUMMARIZE IT? I OKAY.
CITIZENS WHO HAVE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE MEETING BEING CALLED TO ORDER AND DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO MATTERS ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA WILL BE HEARD AT THIS TIME OR THE TIME THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED.
SPEAKERS MAY SPEAK ON UP TO THREE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS AND IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, EXCEPT THAT A SPEAKER WHO ADDRESSES THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A TRANSLATOR IS LIMITED TO SIX MINUTES.
SPEAKERS MAKING PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM AND SHALL BE BARRED FROM REENTERING THE CHAMBER DURING THE SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.
COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL ONLY BE MADE AT THE TIME THE AGENDA ITEM IS SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT IS OUR POLICY TO HAVE ALL SPEAKERS IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES BY PROVIDING THEIR NAME AND RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS WHEN MAKING COMMENTS.
AND WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR ITEM FIVE AND THEN SOME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[1. Hold a public hearing on the US Highway 90A Overpass Project for the Cities of Rosenberg and Richmond, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (William Benton, Mayor) ]
BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS WITH TDOT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.UM, I DON'T SUPPOSE WE HAVE A MAP OR A PICTURE OR ILLUSTRATION OF IT.
I'LL JUST, UH, DESCRIBE IT WHERE IT IS.
THERE'S A MAP OF IT, I SUPPOSE.
UM, OVER THE, UH, TRAIN TRACK TRESTLE, UM, ON THE E FAR EAST SIDE, MAYOR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING THE AGENDA ITEM SO THAT PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HIGHWAY 90, A OVERPASS PROJECT FOR THE CITIES OF ROSENBERG AND RICHMOND, AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE BY THIS MAP, WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, UH, SEVERAL 20, 30 YEARS IS, UM, A LARGE OVERPASS THAT WOULD GO OVER THE TRAIN TRACK INTO RICHMOND AND WOULD END AT THE HOSPITAL AT THAT INTERSECTION THERE.
UH, WHERE THE RED LIGHT IS, WHERE WALGREENS IS ON, ON YOUR LEFT, IF YOU'RE COMING FROM ROSENBERG AND HOSPITALS ON THE RIGHT.
AND, UH, AND THEN IT WOULD, IT WOULD COME WEST AND PASS, UH, LANE DRIVE AND START ABOUT WHERE, UM, THE OLD IES USED TO BE.
IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE CLOSE TO THAT.
SO THIS WOULD BE A BIG GIGANTIC OVERPASS.
AND FOLKS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT IT.
UH, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP, ORIGINALLY THINGS WERE A LOT DIFFERENT.
THERE WERE MORE STORES, MORE BIG BOX STORES, UM, ON THE ROAD ON 90.
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THAT THERE WOULD BE EVEN MORE.BUT THAT SHIP SAILED A LONG TIME AGO.
UM, STORES HAVE NOT BEEN COMING TO HIGHWAY 90 OTHER THAN MAYBE MOM AND POP STORES.
UM, IN FACT, JUST THE OPPOSITE.
MOST OF THEM HAVE LEFT TO GO OUT TO THE FREEWAY, THOSE THAT ARE STILL IN BUSINESS.
SO THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE OVERPASS AND A CONCERN ABOUT THE NEED FOR IT.
ONE OF THE NEEDS I WAS TOLD WAS BECAUSE YOU GO UNDER THE TRAIN TRACKS, SOMETIMES IT'D GO UNDER WATER AND PEOPLE COULDN'T CROSS SINCE THEN TO THE NORTH OF THAT RIVERWOOD, THE RIVERWOOD OPENING, UH, GETTING TO IT FROM RAWSON ROAD BEHIND THE OLD SUTHERLANDS THAT'S BEEN OPEN.
SO NOW FOLKS CAN GET AROUND THAT WAY.
SO TO ME, PART OF THAT ARGUMENT IS, IS GONE.
UM, ANOTHER SOLUTION I WAS ALWAYS TOLD, OR WHAT WE USE AROUND HERE, CERTAINLY FOR OUR, UH, SEWER PLANTS ARE PUMP STATIONS.
SO IF THE UNDERPASS IS THERE, GOES UNDER WATER, WHY SPEND 20, 30, $40 MILLION ON A BIG MONSTROUS OVERPASS? WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST PUT A, UH, A PUMP A PUMP, THAT WOULD WORK.
MAYOR, UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT ISN'T THAT ON ITEM TWO? WE SHOULD LET THE, UH, PUBLIC SPEAK.
UM, NO, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, IF IF YOU'RE JUST INTRODUCING THE ITEM AND THERE'S NOT DISCUSSION YET, THEN THAT'S FINE.
UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, YOU GOT THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT IT THAT, THAT I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY ARE ISSUES.
OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED IS THAT, UH, WE GOT FOLKS NOW TRYING TO CAMP OUT UNDER THESE UNDERPASSES AND I HOPE THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
NOW, RIGO TOLD ME THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PROPOSED WITH A FENCE UNDERNEATH IT.
MAYBE TXDOT SHOULD LOOK AT FENCES UNDER SOME OF THESE OTHER O OVERPASSES AS WELL.
BUT IT'S A, UH, IT WOULD BE AN OVERPASS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT WOULD BE, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF TDOT HAS THOSE KIND OF DOLLARS TO SPEND ON SOMETHING, I, I DON'T KNOW, THAT ARE FOLKS THAT ARE EAGER FOR THE PROJECT.
NOBODY HAS EVER COME TO ME, EVER.
NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER COME UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD USE AN OVERPASS, UH, HERE.
UM, SO IF THEY GOT THOSE KIND OF DOLLARS TO SPEND ON SOMETHING THAT NOBODY'S ASKING FOR, PERHAPS THEY COULD DIVERT THOSE FUNDS AND HELP US BURY SOME OF THOSE UNSIGHTLY POWER LINES AND CABLE LINES AND PHONE LINES AROUND THE INTERSECTION OF A HERDON DRIVE.
IT SEEMED LIKE MONEY WOULD BE BETTER, BETTER SPENT THERE ANYWAY.
UM, THE CURRENT TRAIN TRACK TRESTLE, I THINK IS A LANDMARK.
I THINK, UH, A BIG UPT TRUCE OVERPASS LIKE THIS WOULD MAR THE LANDSCAPE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.
AND PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB.
I BLAME MYSELF PARTIALLY, UM, FOR, UH, PERHAPS WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB AT, UH, MARKETING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.
WE GOT FOLKS HERE AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR THEIR OPINION.
UH, I THINK ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
MAYOR, WHAT'S THAT? I THINK THEY HAVE TO POST THEM IN THE, UH, IN THE NEWSPAPER.
I DON'T GET IT NOW, BUT, OKAY.
SO I, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF MARKETING.
ANYWAY, UM, WE'RE GONNA TO HEAR THE PUBLIC'S, UH, PREFERENCE OR OPINIONS ON THIS.
AND THEN WE WILL ASK Y'ALL WHAT YOUR VIEW IS ON THIS PROJECT.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING IN IT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, IF TEXDOT JUST INSISTS, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME TEXDOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FUNDED BY THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES, UM, ON STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, TWO OF WHICH TOLD ME THAT THEY WOULD ASSIST US IN,
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UH, MAYBE HOLDING, UH, PAUSING THIS PROJECT, UH, WITH TECH O.SO IT'S GONNA BE THEIR DECISION.
BUT TONIGHT IT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION TO COUNSEL, IF YOU WISH TO PASS A RESOLUTION, ASKING TEXDOT TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON, UM, AND ASKING OUR LEGISLATORS TO HELP US AND MAYBE REDIRECT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER PARTS OF 90 WHERE THEY WOULD BE BETTER USED.
SO LET'S BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
AND, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE THAT, UH, OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THIS ISSUE, UH, DO YOU HAVE A LIST OR DO WE JUST CALL 'EM UP? ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN FIRST? ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW AT 6:48 PM UH, WHY DON'T WE START WITH, UH, DR.
LARRY, DO YOU MIND, YOU'RE ON THE END OF THE ROW.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND, DR.
LARRY IS A FORMER MAYOR HERE, AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UH, YOUR OPINION SINCE I WAS ASSUMING I'M GONNA HAVE HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I I'M GONNA ASK YOU OUT BOTTOM LINE, YOU'VE GOT THREE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS.
LARRY? IS IS IT ON THAT? YEAH, IT'S ON.
YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
IF IT'S ANYTHING ELECTRONIC, DON'T ASK ME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS AT HOME.
CAN YOU ALSO STATE YOUR ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START? OH, MY NAME IS LARRY WILKINSON.
I LIVE AT 33 11 AVENUE O ROSENBERG.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I'M A RETIRED OPTOMETRIST.
UH, UH, IF YOU ASK ME TO DO ANYTHING, UH, CONSTRUCTION WISE, MY WIFE WOULD RUN OUTTA THE HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS NOT MY FORTE, BUT I'VE LOOKED AT THIS FOR YEARS AND WONDERED HOW THE HECK THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.
BECAUSE THAT BRIDGE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE BIG AND STRAIGHT AND HIGH.
AND THERE'S TWO BRIDGES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT I WILL NOT GO OVER.
I, I DO IF I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.
BUT ONE IS, UH, AT THE FRED HARTMAN BRIDGE IN HOUSTON.
I HATE THAT THING AND I WILL NOT GO DOWN THAT IF I DON'T HAVE TO.
AND THE, AND THE SECOND ONE IS THE BRIDGE OVER THE MISSISSIPPI AND LAKE CHARLES.
BUT BOTTOM LINE IS, WE KNOW THAT TDOT DOES WHAT THEY DO.
THEY, THEY DO THEIR ENGINEERING.
THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
IF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG HAS NOT WORKED WITH THEM PREVIOUSLY, YOU'RE IN TROUBLE.
THEY DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY ANYBODY.
AND THE THING THAT I'M, I'M PASSING AROUND.
YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH ALL MY ASSUMPTIONS, BUT I AGREE WITH THEM.
UH, BUT BASICALLY YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES.
ONE IS TO GET YOUR LEGISLATORS TO COME DOWN AND DROP THE HAMMER ON TAX DOT OR TWO TO FUND YOUR OWN ENGINEERING.
LOOK AT THEIR ENGINEERING, DO YOUR OWN ENGINEERING.
AND IF YOU FIND THAT THE FEASIBILITY IS MINIMAL, THEN SUE 'EM LIKE HECK.
BUT THOSE ARE YOUR ONLY TWO OPTIONS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
LEARY, DO YOU LIKE THE PROJECT? DO YOU WANT THE OVERPASS? AS FAR AS I, AS MUCH AS I KNOW OF IT, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE WANNA KNOW PREFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC.
NO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE.
NOW, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST PROJECT THEY'VE EVER HAD TO WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF UNDERPASSES.
THEY'VE HAD THAT ON THEIR AGENDA FOR THE PAST 15, 20 YEARS AND THEY'RE DOING IT THROUGH THE STATE.
THIS IS NOT JUST ROSENBERG WEST END HAD IT DONE, WHAT, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO NOW? FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
WORKED FINE BECAUSE THEY HAD PLENTY OF LAND OUT THERE THAT WAS, UH, OPEN, NOT OPEN, NOT USED.
AND THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET RID OF THAT UNDERPASS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED AND RIGHTFULLY SO ABOUT THE PUMPS FAILING AND, UH, THE LOCAL PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE
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TO GET THERE IN TIME TO BLOCK PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO, UH, THESE FLOODED UNDERPASSES.AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AROUND THE STATE, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, BUT THEY'VE NEVER HAD ONE.
I TAKE THAT BACK, I HAVE NO IDEA
THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT.
WHY DON'T WE DO, UH, SIDNEY, YOU WANNA GO NEXT? AND THEN JAMES, WHY DON'T YOU GO AFTER SIDNEY? ALRIGHT, THERE.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR HOSTING THIS, UH, I GUESS WHAT YOU, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSE? ALRIGHT.
WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? MY ADDRESS, SIDNEY MELLON TEN NINE TEN BRAZE BAYOU DRIVE, HOUSTON, TEXAS.
UH, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN RICHMOND.
UH, 20 YEARS AGO WHEN TDOT INFORMED US THAT THEY WERE GONNA BUILD EITHER A NEW OVERPASS OR A NEW UNDERPASS, WE GOT INVOLVED.
UH, WE SUGGESTED TO THEM THAT THEY EITHER BUILD A NEW UNDERPASS OR KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
WE COULD NOT SEE THIS GIANT STRUCTURE BECAUSE IT WOULD KILL THE, THE BUSINESSES RIGHT IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
MY FAMILY HAPPENS TO OWN THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS ADJOINING THE UNDERPASS.
AND, UH, TDO JUST WOULDN'T LISTEN.
THEY SAID, NO, WE HAVE TO GO BY THE NUMBERS.
AND ACCORDING TO OUR FIGURES, IT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS MORE TO BUILD AN UNDERPASS DUE TO THE GENERATOR AND PUMP STATION.
THEY SAID WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE LESSER AMOUNT.
AND WE SAID, EVEN THOUGH IT DESTROYS THESE BUSINESSES NEXT TO IT, THEY SAID, THAT'S REALLY NOT THEIR CONCERN.
THEIR CONCERN IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
I DIDN'T LIKE THAT ANSWER AT THAT TIME.
WE WENT AROUND AND WE GOT ABOUT 50 BUSINESSES TO SIGN A PETITION ASKING TEXDOT TO RECONSIDER AND TO GO WITH A NEW UNDERPASS.
THEY REFUSE, THEY STUCK WITH, IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD THE OVERPASS.
ANYWAY, UH, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THE OVERPASS AND I, I THINK MY TENANTS AND MY SHOPPING CENTER ARE AGAINST IT ALSO.
I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT OVERPASSES THAT I'VE SEEN THE ONE ON HARWIN OVER WESTHEIMER.
MAYOR, WE WANT TO, WE WANNA KEEP OUR CONVERSATION FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
YOU WANNA RUN THE MEETING? DO YOU WANNA RUN THE MEETING? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING MAYOR, WE JUST FOLLOW THE RULES.
WE JUST HAVE TO GO WITH THE PUBLIC FIRST.
LET ME, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, MAYOR.
JAMES ZISH 25 14 CYPRESS LANE ROSENBERG RESIDENT MY ENTIRE LIFE.
UH, WE FOUND OUT WITH THE TRIPLE FORT BRIDGE AND THE ONE WAY PAIRS THAT IT'S HARD TO FIGHT THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND WE ALSO FOUND OUT THAT, UH, THAT'S THE ONE WAY PAIRS WASN'T SO BAD AFTER ALL.
EVEN THOUGH I STILL HAVE ALMOST HEAD ON COLLISIONS IN FRONT OF MY SHOP FROM TIME TO TIME.
BUT WE HAVE A TRIPLE FORT BRIDGE ON THIS END OF TOWN THAT CAN GET ICED UP.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN GET ICED UP OVER HERE.
IT'S GONNA BE TALL AND WE GOT TRUCKS THAT CAN SPREAD ICE.
AND WE HAVE AN UNDERPASS THAT HARDLY, I DON'T THINK IT FLOODS ALL THAT MUCH, BUT I'M SURE THAT IF WE PUT A NEW PUMPING STATION IN THERE AND IT HAS A DIESEL GENERATORS AND OR NATURAL GAS OR BACKUP DIESEL PUMPS, WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE A SERVICEABLE UNDERPASS.
I'M, I'M KIND OF AGAINST THIS BIG OVERPASS AND WE'RE GONNA LET ANOTHER, UH, STATE OF TEXAS TAKE ANOTHER SHOT AT IT.
AND THEY SCREWED IT UP SO BAD LAST TIME.
THAT BUSINESS HAD BEEN IMPACTED FOR OVER FIVE YEARS THAT I KNOW OF.
IT'S STILL SCREWED UP OVER THERE.
AND, AND THERE WAS A PIPELINE THAT THEY, WITH ALL THE ENGINEERING, THEY DIDN'T SEE THIS PIPELINE.
SUPPOSEDLY THERE'S A PIPELINE SOMEWHERE OVER THERE AND I'D LIKE TO REVISIT THE IDEA OF THE UNDERPASS OR LEAVE IT ALONE.
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I'VE SEEN VEHICLES GET STUCK UNDER THIS THING.I THINK WE COULD INCREASE THE DEPTH OF IT AND PUT A NEW PUMPING PLAN IN THERE AND, AND KEEP KIND OF THE WAY IT IS PROMOTING BUSINESS GROWTH IN ROSENBERG.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THEY GET SOMETHING IN THEIR HEAD, THEY GET TO WHERE THEY CAN'T LET IT GO.
BUT I THINK IT, THEY'VE MISHANDLED THIS THING SO BADLY AND NO TELLING HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAD TO PAY OFF TO THAT FIRST CONTRACTOR THAT COULDN'T FINISH THE JOB.
SO THEY'VE WASTED A TON OF MONEY ON THIS.
MAYBE IT'S TIME TO RELOOK AT THIS THING AND, AND FIGURE IT OUT THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'VE LIVED IN THE RICHMOND ROSENBERG FORT BEND COUNTY AREA FOR THE LAST 47 YEARS.
UH, CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? 40 14 BRYN MAWR DRIVE, RICHMOND, TEXAS 7 7 4 0 6.
UH, I'M A RETIRED BANKER WHO SPENT THE 4 47 YEARS AT 10 11 MILLIE STREET, FORT BEND, FEDERAL SAVINGS AND LOAN.
I'M A LICENSED CPAA LICENSED REAL ESTATE AGENT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMICS OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
UH, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES THAT ARE, IF YOU PUT THIS OVERPASS IN THE PROPERTY, VALUES WILL BE AFFECTED THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS.
AND THEN AS THEY ARE AFFECTED, OTHER PROPERTY VALUES ADJACENT TO THOSE WILL BE AFFECTED.
SO IT'S BAD FOR ROSENBERG FROM A PROPERTY TAX STANDPOINT AND ALSO FROM A SALES TAX STANDPOINT, IF YOU LOSE, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY'RE NO NO LONGER PAYING THE SALES TAX.
SO, UM, I, MY CONCERN IS FOR AVENUE H UH, EVER SINCE I HAVE LIVED HERE, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE CITY OF ROSENBERG HAS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT AVENUE H AND WHAT WE DO TO REVITALIZE IT.
NOW, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS PUBLIC INFORMATION, BUT YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD AM ENERGY BANK, WHO I REPRESENT IS MOVING ITS, UH, LOCATION OUT TO THE SOUTHWEST FREEWAY.
THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER VACANT BUILDING UNLESS WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR IT.
ONE IDEA THAT I HAD THAT, UH, I WANTED TO THROW OUT IS, WOULD THE CITY CONSIDER BUYING THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS ANCHOR ON AVENUE H TO SPONSOR REDEVELOPMENT FROM? I THINK THAT I TRIED TO THINK OF WHAT'S MISSING ON AVENUE H THE OTHER THING TO ME THAT'S MISSING IS A, A, UH, GROCERY STORE.
UH, ALL THE GROCERY STORES SEEM TO HAVE GRAVITATED OUT TO THE FREEWAY AS WELL.
THERE'S STILL A GREAT POPULATION THAT LIVES IN, IN AND AROUND AVENUE H.
SO, UM, SO I WOULD ASK THE CITY OF ROSENBERG TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN GET CREATIVE AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, AGAIN, I WOULD OFFER UP TAX INCENTIVES THAT MAYBE YOU CAN OFFER TO THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG AVENUE AGE TO BUY, BUY THESE PROPERTIES, MAKE 'EM MORE ATTRACTIVE.
YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE POTENTIAL OCCUPANTS THAN WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT ON, UM, 59.
SO ANYWAY, UH, UM, I HAVE A STRONG ALLEGIANCE TO THE BANK, TO THE LOCATION.
UH, I'VE SPENT 47 YEARS THERE.
WE'VE DONE A LOT IN THE WAY OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS ON DEVELOPMENT
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IN THE, UH, AVENUE AGE CORRIDOR.UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY INPUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED ON HIGHWAY 90 MORE VACANCIES.
UM, WAYNE, DID YOU WANT TO COME AND COMMENT WAYNE RACK 25 14 PECAN DRIVE IN ROSENBERG.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO OAK BEND PHYSICAL THERAPY TO EXERCISE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO OAK BEND PHYSICAL THERAPY FOR EXERCISE THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
I HAVE YET TO SEE A PROBLEM WITH UNDERPASS, PERIOD.
THE OTHER THING IS I'M LIKE, LARRY, I THINK, OR ONE OF THE, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A LIFT PUMP WOULD BE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM AND SPEND 40 OR 50 OR WHATEVER, A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO IN CLOSING, I'LL SAY IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE ONLY PERSON TO PROFIT FROM THIS WOULD BE THE CONTRACTOR.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? THERE WE GO.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? UM, GOOD EVENING, UM, MAYOR AND, UM, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, MY NAME IS VERA ACCURO AND UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 9 7 0 2 CANDLE LAKE DRIVE IN RICHMOND, TEXAS.
UH, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER ON 1 1 7 LANE DRIVE AND, UH, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS, UM, OVERPASS PROJECT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S JUST GONNA BE A KILLER TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES AROUND THERE.
AND UM, UM, LIKE SOME OF THE, UH, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN AHEAD OF ME SAID, UM, A PUMP WOULD JUST BE A PERFECT OPTION AND IT WOULD BE A VERY COST EFFECTIVE OPTION TO HELP.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE YEARS AND, UM, WHERE I HAVEN'T REALLY NOTICED ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT UNDERPASS.
AND, UM, EVEN WHEN THERE'S HEAVY RAINFALL, THE FLOODING IS NOT AS BAD.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LARGE PROJECT AS AN OVERPASS TO, TO SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE THAT.
SO I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE OVERPASS.
IT'S GONNA BE A KILLER TO THE BUSINESSES.
HOW ABOUT ANYBODY OVER HERE? DO Y'ALL WISH TO COMMENT? ANYBODY? THAT COUPLE RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
NOW CAROLYN, I KNOW YOU LIVE IN THE CITY.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOUR PREFERENCE FOR THE PROJECT ACT.
AND HOW ABOUT THOSE FOLKS BEHIND Y'ALL? WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO COMMENT? WE'D LIKE TO KNOW YOUR VIEW AS WELL.
WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO ADD, ADD ANYTHING? NO.
CAROLYN, WHAT, UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? MY NAME'S CAROLYN SEILER.
I RESIDE AT 26 25 CEDAR LANE HERE IN ROSENBERG.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ROSENBERG AND I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT UNDERPASS ALL MY LIFE.
I DROVE SCHOOL BUSES UNDER IT.
UM, YES, SOMETIMES IF IT'S REAL HEAVY FLOODING, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GET A LITTLE WATER UNDERNEATH THERE.
THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PLACE IN TOWN AND IT'S TEMPORARY.
BUT I WORRY ABOUT THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT AREA.
IT MAY PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS.
UM, THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THEM.
AND I DON'T THINK FOR WHAT THEY WANNA SPEND ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT THERE'S OTHER FEASIBLE, UH, MEANS TO CORRECT IT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE COUNCIL.
CAN YOU CLOSE THE MEETING, MAYOR? I JUST NEED THE TIME THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
[2. Review and discuss the US Highway 90A Overpass Project for the Cities of Rosenberg and Richmond, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (William Benton, Mayor) ]
TWO, REVIEW AND DISCUSS HIGHWAY 90, A OVERPASS PROJECT FOR THE CITIES OF ROSENBERG AND RICHMOND.SO MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS HOW, AND AGAIN, IT, IT TDOT WILL BE THE, THE FINAL DECISION MAKER, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO INJECT OUR
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VIEW, UM, FOR THE PREFERENCE OF OUR, OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR RESIDENCE.UM, YEAH, ONE THING I, I FORGOT TO MENTION AND, BUT THE OTHER SPEAKERS MENTIONED THEM IS OVERPASSES ARE BUSINESS KILLERS.
THIS SIDE OF TOWN HAS BEEN STRUGGLING FOR YEARS.
THE, THE RANDALL AND THE KROGER'S THAT, UM, KROGER'S HAS BEEN GONE, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST 10 YEARS.
YEAH, BUT THEY STILL PAY THE RENT THOUGH, FOR THAT LOCATION, DO THEY? YEAH.
OH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER STORE TO GO IN.
AND THEN, UM, LUBY'S, WE'VE LOST OUR LUBY ANYWAY.
Y'ALL KNOW THE, Y'ALL KNOW THE DEAL.
UM, SO THE, THE ONLY STORES THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT HAVE COME IN HAS BEEN DEDE'S, WHICH GOD BLESS DEEDEE'S.
BUT, UH, BUT PALLY ROLL'S GONE.
THE PALLY RULE ON THE OTHER END OF TOWN IS GONE.
I LIKE THAT DOLLAR STORE THAT WAS THERE AND IT'S GONE NOW.
OLLIE'S IS THERE, BUT I MEAN, THESE ARE REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S OR THIS AND THAT.
WE HAVE MANAGED TO HANG ON TO FIESTA, WHICH IS A, A, A VERY GOOD STORE.
BUT WHO KNOWS FOR HOW LONG? ANYWAY, IT'S OBVIOUS HIGHWAY 90 IS STRUGGLING IF THIS OVERPASS WAS SOMEHOW PROPOSED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING ALL THIS TRAFFIC AND ALL THIS COMMERCE.
UH, BUT IF YOU CALL SMOKE SHOPS AND LIQUOR STORES, UM, I AND PAYDAY LOANS, UH, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE EXPANDING.
I MEAN, THEY PAY TAXES AS WELL.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE SORT OF BUSINESSES THAT I'VE SEEN EXPAND IN THE AREA.
SO, SO THE QUESTION TO, TO THE COUNCIL IS, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS THAT WE PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE PROJECT.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN? DOES IT MEAN THE PROJECT WILL STOP? NOPE, BUT YOU, YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU DON'T TRY, I JUST, HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IN ORDER, HECTOR.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
AND IF WE DECIDE AS A GROUP, UM, AND WE NEED FOUR, FOUR OF US TO DECIDE TO DRAW UP A, I MEAN FOR THE STAFF TO DRAW UP A RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION, THEN UM, WE WILL HAVE TO RATIFY IT AGAIN AT A FUTURE MEETING.
AT THAT POINT, THE RESOLUTION WILL BE SENT TO TDOT AND WILL BE SENT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES, UH, OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, GARY GATES, UM, MATT MORGAN, UH, RON REYNOLDS, AND THEN WHAT'S HIS NAME? STAN KITMAN.
AND MAYBE EVEN BE SENT TO, YOU KNOW, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS.
WE HAVE O WE HAVE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES.
AND WE'LL LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE DO NOT PREFER THIS PROJECT AND WE WOULD PREFER THAT THEY FIND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE OR JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.
THAT'S THE THING ABOUT IT IS, UM, THEY JUST SEEM LIKE THAT THERE IS MONEY BURNING THROUGH THEIR, THEIR POCKETS.
AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD GO A LOT FURTHER ON, ON HIGHWAY 90.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH GEORGE.
AND MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF PASSING, UH, US PASSING A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE PROJECT? YES OR NO? ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT? YES OR NO? CAN I SAY THIS? MAYOR? YEAH.
COUNCIL MAYOR, WE MUSTN'T FORGET, UH, UH, WHAT'S THE, THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S DOING THE OVERPASSES OVER THERE BY THE BIG RESTAURANTS, LIKE, UH, UH, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT, OF, OF RICHMOND? MM-HMM
WE'RE, UH, MY QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT WITH A
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RESOLUTION? THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION FOR THAT.
ARE YOU? NO, I I I WOULDN'T DO IT.
RICHARD, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE PRO? SO WHEN YOU SAY, EXCUSE ME, ARE YOU FOR THE RESOLUTION, GEORGE, ARE YOU FOR THE PROJECT? YES.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU'RE IN, DO YOU, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES.
RICHARD? I'M ARE FOR, AGAINST, AGAINST THE PROJECT.
I'M FOR A RESOLUTION AGAINST THE PROJECT.
I JUST THINK THEY MADE A MESS OF IT LAST TIME THEY TRIED IT.
AND IT DOESN'T FLOOD THERE THAT OFTEN.
IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS THAT IT'S SO BAD THAT YOU CAN'T PASS THROUGH THERE.
IF EVEN THAT, IT'S PROBABLY ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS.
ALRIGHT, HECTOR, NOW I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
NO, UH, THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SAY, HOW MANY SIGNATURES DID WE GET WHEN WE WERE, UH, TRYING TO DO THE STOP THE WRONG, UH, THE ONE WAY THOROUGHFARE ON AVENUE H AND AVENUE.
HOW MANY SIGNATURES DID WE GET? WELL, I DID THREE PETITIONS.
SO I REMEMBER SIGNING THEM ALL AND THEY STILL DID WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
SO I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO HERE TOO.
SO THIS, THAT'S COULD BE, I MEAN WE, I KNOW EVERY, LIKE THAT'S ES NOT, BUT THAT'S NOT MY THE QUESTION.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE WASTING A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO TALK TO T DODGE 'CAUSE THEY STILL DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
SO LIKE MR. HERS SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT HE ALMOST HAD ACCIDENTS THERE ON, ON AVENUE H.
IT'S STILL, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T LISTEN.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU DO A RESOLUTION, I THINK, BUT I MEAN, WHATEVER THE CITIZENS WANT, I'M FOR IT.
SO, BUT, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW ABOUT I UNDERSTAND AND IT, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY AN UPHILL BATTLE.
'CAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH A, A BIG ENTITY, A VERY POWERFUL ENTITY.
UM, BUT ALSO ONE MORE THING, LIKE I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE DR. LARRY WILKINSON SAID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO OUR OWN ENGINEERING.
I DON'T THINK OUR RESIDENTS WANNA SPEND MONEY DOING AN ENGINEERING.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED AN ENGINEER.
I I I DON'T THINK THIS IS ROCKET SCIENCE.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY TAXES TO ENGINEER SOMETHING TEXAS.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST, I DON'T THINK, UH, OUR, OUR RESIDENTS WILL LIKE THAT EITHER.
BUT ANYWAYS, BUT MY, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THIS.
ARE YOU FOR, UH, UH, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM? DOES IT MATTER WITH THE TEXAS DOCS GONNA DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO, BUT ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE PROJECT? I'M OKAY WITH IT.
ALRIGHT, STEVE, I'M IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, FELIX, UM, HOW MUCH MONEY IS ROSEMARY RICHMOND GONNA PAY OUT OF THIS? WE'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.
UM, WELL I'M, I'M GOING TO BE AGAINST IT, BUT EITHER WAY I THINK IT'S STILL GONNA GET BUILT.
BUT THE QUESTION ARE FOR THE RESTROOM.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS AGAINST THE PROJECT.
I, I'M AGAINST IT, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S STILL GONNA GET BUILT BECAUSE THEY'RE A BIG ENTITY.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH JUST VOTING HERE.
WHAT IS RICHMOND? HAVE YOU TALKED TO RICHMOND? HAS STAFF TALKED TO RICHMOND? WHAT'S YOUR STAFF? I'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED TO THE MAYOR AND SHE SAID SHE'S NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT SHE SAID SIMILAR TO WHAT Y'ALL SAID, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT RICHARD.
I I HAVE SEEN WELL, YEAH, IT DOES.
IT, IT'S REALLY, IT IS REALLY NO, NOT TO.
IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT RICHMOND AS MUCH AS IT'S GONNA AFFECT US.
IT'S GONNA AFFECT BOTH SIDES BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN THAT BRIDGE AND IT'S WET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE REAR END COLLISIONS AND THE, AND THE RICHMOND POLICE DEPARTMENT GONNA HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT ANYWAY.
BUT THE HOSPITAL'S RIGHT THERE, ANY, ANYWAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, UH, MAYOR HAAS TOLD ME SHE'S NOT ELATED ABOUT THE PROJECT ANYWAY.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU HEARD OUR PREFERENCE.
WE WOULD PREFER THAT Y'ALL DRAW UP SOMETHING BRANDON, IN OPPOSITION TO, TO IT, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL CIRCULATE IT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES.
I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, WELL FORGET A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I HAVE FAITH IN OUR, UH, LEGISLATORS THAT IF THEY ARE CONVINCED, UM, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LOCALS DON'T WANT A PROJECT OR THEY WANT A PROJECT, UM, THAT PERHAPS THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO THEIR DILIGENCE TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR PREFERENCE.
SO JUST TO RECALL, HOW MANY SIGNATURES DID WE GET ON THOSE THREE PETITIONS ON THAT ONE WAY? WELL,
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LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE ACTUAL AMOUNT.DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER? YEAH, I REMEMBER HOW MANY.
LIKE I SAID, WE DID THREE OF THEM.
SO WHAT WAS THE TOTAL SIGNATURE? ONE OF THEM WE GOT, UH, UH, 800.
ONE OF THEM, UH, ANOTHER ONE I GOT 1200.
AND THEN I DID A, A NON-BINDING PETITION THAT WAS ANY THAT ANYBODY COULD SIGN.
UH, AND THAT ONE WAS A COUPLE OF THOUSAND.
AND I MADE COPIES FOR ALL OF OUR LEGISLATORS.
AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS, UH, ALL THE LEGISLATORS, SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BLANKED ME ON IT.
AND THE, THE ONE THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY ADAMANT AND GAVE ME THE MORE TIME WAS ACTUALLY DEMOCRAT.
RON REYNOLDS WENT TO HIS OFFICE.
I TALKED TO HIM, WENT TO SENATOR, UH, GLENN HAGER, I TALKED TO HIM.
UM, BUT, UH, THE PETITIONS WERE TO GET THE CITY OUT OF THE PROJECT.
AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT THAT.
WE SAVED $4.5 MILLION OF CITY MONEY AND GET, GOT US OUT OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE PREVIOUS COUNCILS HAD COMMITTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TOWARDS THE PROJECT.
OKAY? SO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND THOUGH WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL AT STOPPING THE PROJECT, UH, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT SAVING THE FUNDING FROM CITY COFFERS.
AND BY THE WAY, LIKE JAMES SAID, AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT EVERY DAY PEOPLE GO DOWN, UH, AVENUE, H AVENUE I THE WRONG DIRECTION.
AND, AND MAYBE THEY, HEY, MAYBE THEY DID THAT ANYWAY BEFORE WHEN IT WAS TWO WAY, YOU KNOW? SO I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, WE CAN GIVE THIS, UM, I WANNA REPORT TO, TO MATT MORGAN.
HE, UH, JC JAAN, JC JAAN, UH, BEFORE HE LOST THE PRIMARY, HE WAS ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FOR, FOR THE LEGISLATURE.
AND HE GOT, HE GOT THE, THE BARRICADES REMOVED.
THE BARRELS REMOVED AND GOT THEM TO RETRIP.
THAT WAS CLOSED FOR FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
HE GOT ON, HE GOT ON THE T DOT.
SO THE T DOT WILL LISTEN TO THESE FOLKS.
PERHAPS THEY'LL LISTEN TO THEM.
I'M SURE THEY'LL LISTEN TO THEM MORE THAN THEY'LL LISTEN TO US.
BUT IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T ASK, WE DON'T GET.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU TO ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE YOU, BRANDON, TO DRAW, DRAFT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE'LL HAVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE FIRST TUESDAY IN AUGUST.
SO I URGE Y'ALL TO COME BACK TO THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, THESE FOLKS MAY TRY TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.
AND IF THEY DO, I HOPE Y'ALL ARE THERE TO, TO SEE THAT AND TO ENCOURAGE US NOT TO CHANGE OUR MINDS.
AND HOPEFULLY NO ONE ELSE WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND.
BUT, UM, UNTIL IT'S, UH, OFFICIALLY RATIFIED, IT HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY RATIFIED TONIGHT, BUT UNTIL IT'S OFFICIALLY RATIFIED, THE COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS.
[3. Review and discuss a proposed City dog park, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Cary Lamensky, Director of Parks) ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED CITY DOG PARK AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.CARRIE LEKI, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS, I WAS GONNA SAY OF DOGS, BUT NO WRONG DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AT THE APRIL 22ND, 2025 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED A PROPOSED DOG PARK.
THE CONSENSUS WAS FOR STAFF TO RESEARCH AL ALTERNATIVES FOR A DOG PARK, INCLUDING SUGGESTIONS TO SEPARATE AREAS FROM SMALL AND LARGE DOGS TO PROHIBIT SNACKS AND FOOD, TO PREVENT AGGRESSION, AND TO REQUIRE ALL DOGS USING THE PARK TO BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED.
AT THE JUNE 26TH, 2025 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING STAFF PRESENTED THREE POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR A PROPOSED DOG PARK.
FOURTH STREET BETWEEN CITY HALL AND THE FORT BEN HERALD.
BUILDING FOUNTAINS DRIVE NEAR THE ROCKET AND THE EXISTING DOG PARK OWNED BY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 1 67.
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BOARD RECOMMENDED THE FOURTH STREET LOCATION DUE TO ITS CENTRAL LOCATION AND WALKABLE ACCESSIBILITY.THE BOARD ALSO RECOMMENDED INCLUDING AMENITIES SUCH AS TREES, BENCHES, WATER BOWLS, TRASH BAGS, WASTE RECEPTACLES, PARKING, AND PO PO PO PARVO PREVENTION MEASURES.
THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE PROPOSED DOG PARK IS APPROXIMATELY $80,000, INCLUDING FENCING, A DA COMPLIANT SIDEWALKS, WATER CONTAINERS, TRASH, RECEPTACLES AND BENCHES.
ADDITIONAL EXPENSES MAY ARISE IN THE FUTURE FOR PARKING, LIGHT SECURITY CAMERAS AND PARKING STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A PROPOSED DOG PARK.
WHERE, WHERE WOULD THEY PARK IF IT WERE HERE AND PARK HERE.
AND THIS AND SO THE, I'M SORRY, WHO, WHO DID YOU SAY COME UP WITH THIS SUGGESTION ON LOCATION? THE PARKS BOARD.
THOUGHT FOURTH STREET OVER THE BIG PARK WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA.
AND DID Y'ALL, UH, EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO 'EM? YES, WE DID.
ARE THEY TRYING TO PUNISH US?
OKAY, GO BACK TO THE SEABORNE PICTURE.
BUT THERE'S MORE ROOM TO PUT A, A LOW DOLLAR, UH, UH, A CHEAP.
WHERE WOULD YOU, SO DO YOU JUST WANNA USE THE ISSUE THERE IS ALSO IS HAVING TO CONSTRUCT A PARKING LOT OUT THERE FOR 'EM.
THE ISSUE IS WHAT TO CONSTRUCT A PLACE TO PARK AND HOW TO EXTEND WATER OUT TO THAT AREA.
WHY IS IT DIFFICULT TO CONSTRUCT A PARKING SPOT? I, WELL, IT, IT JUST RIGHT OFF FOUNTAINS DRIVE, IT JUST COSTS MORE MONEY TO SIT THERE TO CONSTRUCT A PARKING LOT OUT THERE.
WELL, MONEY'S ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION.
UH, OKAY, LET'S SEE THE OTHER, LET'S GO BACK, LET'S GO BACK.
WHERE WAS THE OTHER SPOT? I'M NOT SURE.
WHERE IS THIS ONE? HECTOR? SO THAT ONE IS AT TOWN CENTER AND VISTA DRIVE.
THAT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING DOG PARK.
THERE, JUST SIT THERE IF WE CAN PARTNER UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR MUD.
UM, OKAY, BUT THAT, THAT WAS SHOT DOWN.
WHY IS THAT? THERE'S NO PUBLIC PARKING IN THE AREA.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE APARTMENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT, YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING WITH THEIR DOGS.
WELL MAYBE, PERHAPS Y'ALL COULD HAVE MADE DIFFERENT ANOTHER LOCATION SUGGESTION AT, UM, ANOTHER LOCATION.
WE WERE INSTRUCTED FOR TWO ACRE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNED.
AND THOSE WERE THE TWO LARGEST PROP, THE TWO LARGE PROPERTIES THAT WERE OVER TWO ACRES THAT WOULD FIT THE DOG PARKS ADJUSTED.
UM, THE 295 FEET, THAT INCLUDES PARKING OR THAT JUST THE DOG PARK.
THAT'S, THAT'S A TWO ACRE PLOT.
SO THAT'S WHERE PARKING'S GONNA BE.
THAT'S WHERE NO, THAT JUST, NO, THAT'S THE DOG PARK ITSELF.
SO WHERE WOULD WE PUT PARKING FOR THE RESIDENCE? IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE HERALD AND THE PARK, CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS ON THAT MAP.
WHAT'S THE WIDTH THERE FROM HOW MUCH PARKING, HOW, HOW MUCH PARKING SPACE WOULD YOU BE GETTING IN THERE? W WE'D HAVE TO MEASURE IT OUT AND IF, IF WE'RE GONNA END UP GOING THAT ROUTE, WE'LL JUST END UP HAVING TO MAYBE SHRINK THAT AREA TO COME UP WITH MORE PARKING SPOTS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'RE GONNA END UP GOING THAT ROUTE, WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO GET SOME KIND OF STUDY DONE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA END UP DRAINAGE AND WHATNOT TO ACTUALLY DESIGN IT TO, TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND THEN YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED THAT, 'CAUSE YOU GOT A LOT MORE RESIDENTS THAT CAN WALK OVER THERE AND NOT PROBABLY USE THE PARKING, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND IF WE GO TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY GOTTA DRIVE OVER THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA NEED MORE PARKING SPACE.
WELL, AND IF YOUR DOG, YOU'D HAVE TO LOAD UP YOUR DOG, UH, WHEREVER YOU GO.
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THIS WAS JUST A, THE WHAT WE ENDED UP GETTING FROM PARKS FORD.SO I'M JUST LIKE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, PULL OFF ON THIS AND FIND A BETTER, SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE, UH, SPOTS.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE BEST AND BETTER USE OF, OF CITY OWNED REAL ESTATE RIGHT HERE.
MAYBE WE COULD PUT A NEW CITY HALL THERE.
THE PROPERTY'S WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
SO YEAH, THE OTHER PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE STREET THAT WE HAVE.
BUT WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE IN THEIR PLANS TO BUILD ANOTHER CITY HALL RIGHT THERE.
UM, I'D RATHER HAVE A DOG PARK THERE THAN A CITY HALL.
BUT THERE'S THAT PROPERTY OF ON LOUISAN AVENUE INN THAT WE OWN.
RIGHT BY YOUR HOUSE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.
MORE BARKING DOGS THERE, RIGHT?
IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO, TO THE, UH, PARKING AREA.
SO A DOG PARK DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE NATURE PARKS STANDARDS TO BE INSIDE THE NATURE PARK.
WHAT? IT IT, THEY WOULD SCARE OFF NATURE IF YOU PUT 'EM INSIDE THE NATURE PARK.
WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO OFF NATURE TO GET PERMISSION FROM WELL, I THOUGHT DOGS WERE NATURAL.
WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO, TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE STATE TO PUT ONE THERE? GOOD LORD.
THE DOG PARK IN THAT, THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE NATURALIST AND OR PUTTING DOG PARK IN THE PARK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO SCARE THE WILDLIFE THAT'S, THAT'S OUT THERE.
LET'S, WELL, LET'S JUST RUN, RUN IT BY EVERYBODY HERE.
UH, FELIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU SEE ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS OR DO YOU WANNA LOOK, KEEP LOOKING FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES, I GUESS.
UH, I MEAN THIS ONE, UH, RIGHT HERE ON FOURTH STREET.
I MEAN, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, MAYBE WE CAN ENTERTAIN THIS ONE IN THE ONE IN SEABORN.
BUT THERE'S NO PARKING IN HERE.
BUT COME BACK WITH, WITH PARKING LOTS WITH THEM.
ARE YOU OPPOSED TO CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR FUTURE LOCATIONS? MAYBE SOMETHING THAT NO, I, I'M SAYING COMING BACK WITH ADDED PARKING LOT ON THE DIAGRAM.
BUT I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.
STEVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU LIKE ANY OF THIS OR DO YOU WANNA KEEP LOOKING? UH, THEY COULD KEEP LOOKING, BUT WHATEVER THEY DO, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE PARKING.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA WONDER WHERE DO I PARK? UH, HECTOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I LIKE THIS LOCATION AND WE CAN KEEP LOOKING.
WHICHEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD COME UP WITH ANOTHER ONE.
BUT IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THIS IS, I I THINK THIS LOCATION WOULD BE GOOD.
I'M FOR THIS LOCATION FOR, FOR FOURTH STREET.
RICHARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WANT TO WAIT AND LOOK FOR MORE LOCATIONS.
I I THINK WE CAN TEAR DOWN AN OLD BUILDING SOMEWHERE LIKE THE OLD WENDY'S BUILDING RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH THIS.
I THINK, I THINK I ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE STAFF ASK, HAVE DANIELLE ASK JESSICA WHAT HER PREFERENCE IS AS WELL.
UH, GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I DON'T LIKE THIS, UH, LOCATION OVER HERE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK BETTER WE COULD FIND SOMETHING AROUND, UH, MAYBE AIRPORT, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
CITY HAS A BIG FAC FACILITY ON AIRPORT, RIGHT? THAT ONE Y'ALL WANNA BUILD THAT $19 MILLION BUILDING OR, OR IS IT 30 SOMETHING MILLION? 32? YEAH, IT'S 32.
THIS WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER THAN A 30 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS BUILDING.
WE GET OFF A LOT CHEAPER THAN THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, I'M I'M FOR A DOG PARK, BUT PERHAPS WE SHOULD KEEP LOOKING AND THEN WE WILL ASK JESSICA WHAT HER PREFERENCE IS AS WELL.
HOW'S THAT? DON'T RUSH INTO ANYTHING.
CAN WE, UM, JUST PUT THIS AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS? UM, GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY GONNA BE SHORT ON FUNDING AND THE BUDGET PROCESS.
RIGO, WHAT'S A PARKING LOT? A HUNDRED THOUSAND IF, IF, IF NOT MORE DEPENDING IF WE'RE GONNA END UP PUTTING A, A LIGHTING STORM SEWER.
SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A BIG TICKET ITEM.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE CAN SEE IF, IF IT'S ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WHEN WE SEE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO FUND, HOWEVER, WE WE DO HAVE A PART DEDICATION FUND THAT WOULD COULD GO TO THIS.
AND, AND THAT WOULD ALSO DICTATE WHAT AREAS IT CAN BE PUT IN BECAUSE THAT FUNDING IS BY ZONE.
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OKAY.AND IT'D HAVE TO BE IN THE RIGHT ZONE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND THAT MONEY.
WELL THEN I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE PERHAPS THAT ECONOMIC WOULD MAKE OUR DIS HELP MAKE OUR DECISION FOR US.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ALSO GOT RDC WOULD HAVE NO LIMITATIONS.
UM, AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE CITY.
I MEAN, THEY CAN DO PARK IMPROVEMENTS SO I WOULD ASSUME THEY CAN DO A DOG PARK.
WE, WE WOULD'VE TO LOOK INTO IT.
BUT I I BELIEVE YOU COULD PARK LAND DEDICATION FUNDS.
I THINK RDC THAT AS WELL PAID FOR A SPLASH PAD.
RIGHT? SO PARK, IF THEY CAN PAY FOR A SPLASH PAD THEY CAN PAY FOR.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL JUST KEEP, KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN.
MEANTIME, IF Y'ALL, UH, RIGO, WHY DON'T YOU REVIEW THESE, SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY, UM, HAS AROUND TOWN AND MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING, UH, WOULD BE BETTER SUITED.
[4. Review and discuss a proposed master-planned residential community, called The Wenzel Ranch, on three tracts of land totaling approximately 984 acres located north of U.S. Highway 36, south of the Brazos River and east of the Frito-Lay Warehouse, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
AND DISCUSS.PROPOSED MASTER PLAN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CALLED THE WINSELL RANCH ON THREE TRACKS OF LAND TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 984 ACRES LOCATED NORTH OF US.
59, I'M SORRY, US HIGHWAY 36 AND SOUTH OF THE, UH, BRASS RIVER AND EAST OF FRITOLAY WAREHOUSE.
FRIENDSWOOD DEVELOPMENT COMPANY SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO BE SUBMITTED ON THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AGENDA TO PRESENT AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CALLED WINSLOW RANCH.
UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT ENCOMPASSES APPROXIMATELY 984 ACRES AND IT'S LOCATED NORTH OF US.
HIGHWAY 36 SOUTH OF THE BRAZOS RIVER AND EAST OF THE FRITOLAY WAREHOUSE CITY AND DETRACT OWNER ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2013, WHICH ALLOWED THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN IN EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION STATUS UNTIL 2028.
UNDER THE AGREEMENT THE TRACK WOULD REMAIN IMMUNE FROM FULL ANNEXATION AND FROM PROPERTY TAXES UNTIL IT WAS DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRACK.
THE DEVELOPER SEEKS THE MEN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT APPROVING 2013 SO THAT THE TRACK WILL REMAIN WITHIN THE CITY'S ETJ AND TO ESTABLISH A NEW AGREEMENT AND A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BY WHICH THE DEVELOPER COULD DEVELOP THE TRACK AND BY WHICH THE CITY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO FULLY ANNEX THE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CITY LIMITS IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED REGARDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF APPROXIMATELY 2300 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH VARIOUS LOT SIZES, INCLUDING LOT WIDTHS OF 40, 45 FEET, 50 FEET, 55 FEET, 60 FEET, AND 70 FEET WITH A MINIMUM, UH, 120 UH, FOOT LOT DEPTH.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL DEDICATE 44.2 ACRES OF PARKS AND RECREATION, PLUS APPROXIMATELY 50 ADDITIONAL ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
ALL INTERNAL ROADS WILL HAVE 36 FOOT PAVEMENT TO BE MAINTAINED BY FOR BEND COUNTY.
AND THE DEVELOPER WILL RESERVE PLUS MINUS 30 ACRES OF THE CITY, UH, FOR THE CITY TO ACCOMMODATE A SURFACE WATER PLANT, UH, SITE.
THE DEVELOPER WILL CONSTRUCT AND CONVEY TO THE CITY A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND A WATER PLANT.
UH, THIS WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THAT SURFACE WATER PLAN THAT I JUST SP SPOKE ABOUT, UH, THE CITY TO BENEFIT FROM INCREASED WATER IN SEWER REVENUE CITY TO RECEIVE EMS SLASH FIRE SERVICE FEES OF $30 PER LOT PER MONTH.
AND THE DEVELOPER WILL CONSTRUCT AN OVERPASS OVER HIGHWAY 36 AND THE BNSF RAILWAY DEVELOPER PRESENTED AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025.
STAFF NOW ARE SEEKING DIRECTION ON WHAT CONDITIONS THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REQUIRE TO CONSENT TO THE CREATION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE GOT THE DEVELOPER HERE WITH ME AND, UH, HE'LL BE READY TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
PROBABLY WE'RE GONNA ALSO NEED MR. ALCHEMY, JUST STAY ON STANDBY.
UM, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS, MAYOR.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYBODY AND GET EVERYBODY 'CAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF.
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LET ME ASK MR. CAL A ALCHEMY QUESTION.AS PART OF THIS PROPOSED AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT THESE FOLKS WOULD BUILD AND CONVEY A WATER TREATMENT, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN A WATER PLANT.
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THOSE TWO PLANTS? UH, A FULL WATER PLANT WOULD RUN $10 MILLION PLUS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIZE YOU BUILD, THE PHASES IN PROBABLY THREE OR 4 MILLION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING BETWEEN 13 AND $14 MILLION JUST GRANTED TO US, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
ALSO, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.
OR YOU WANNA DO THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ASK THE QUESTION? WELL, NO, GO AHEAD.
BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT THE CITY TO BENEFIT FROM INCREASED WATER AND SEWER REVENUE.
CHARLES, WELL MAYBE I THINK I NEED TO ASK THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.
LET HIM DO THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ASK OKAY.
MOHAMMAD HAD BASICALLY HIT ON MOST THINGS, BUT GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGER WITH FRIENDSWOOD DEVELOPMENT IN OUR HOMES.
I'M HERE WITH CHRIS FERGUSON, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND I'M REPRESENTING ALSO THE WENZEL FAMILY IN THIS MATTER.
UM, WE CAN, MOHAMMAD HIT ON MOST THINGS LIKE LOT SIZES AND ALL THAT, BUT WE CAN DUMP, UH, JUMP INTO THE ACTUAL REVENUE THAT Y'ALL WOULD GET.
WE DID A QUICK CHART BASED ON AN ADDITIONAL $125 PER HOME SITE PER YEAR.
UM, AND THE QUICK MATH COMES OUT TO BASICALLY 12 MILLION OVER SEVEN YEARS IN UTILITY REVENUE AT $125 FOR A WATER BILL REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FIRE PROTECTION FEE? THAT DOES NOT.
FIRE PROTECTION FEE IS AN ADDITIONAL $30 PER HOUSEHOLD PER YEAR.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER UH, 2.9 MILLION.
SO IT'S, IS THAT IN PERPETUITY AND DOES THAT, DOES THAT $30 REQUIRE US TO DEDICATE A TRUCK TO IT? LIKE WE BUY A TRUCK, A FIRE TRUCK AND IT HAS TO BE DEDICATED TO THIS AREA? I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT IS DEDICATED, BUT I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE ON, ON THAT END WHERE THE EMS COME.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE NINE TRUCK.
I THINK WHERE YOU'LL HAVE IT COME THROUGH THIS, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS, IS, IS ADEQUATE.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE FIRE THAT 30 WE COVER THEM COMING TO THIS SITE.
IF WE DO THAT, SIR, YOUR PRO OUR PRICE IS GONNA GO UP BECAUSE IT AIN'T GONNA BE WORTH THIS FOR US TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE.
SO I HOPE Y'ALL DON'T ADD, PUT THAT IN YOUR AGREEMENT.
HOW LONG IS THIS? $30 A MONTH.
IS THAT IN PERPETUITY OR? YES, AS LONG AS THE AGREEMENT'S IN PLACE.
MAYOR, JUST TO KIND OF ADD TO THAT, WE, THIS WOULDN'T REQUIRE A FIRE STATION SPECIFIC FOR THIS.
UH, WE WOULD COVER THIS OUT OF OUR CURRENT FIRE STATIONS UNTIL THAT AREA GREW ALONG WITH OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT CAUSED, CREATED MORE DEMAND, LOWER RESPONSE TIME THAN WE GOT INTO EFFECT WITH OUR ISO RATING.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS IT.
BUT WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO JUST FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
'CAUSE WE WANNA BE, AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE THOSE FOLKS, YOU'RE CHARGING THEM $30 A MONTH.
UM, BUT THE FIRE STATION, UH, YOU GOT TWO FIRE STATIONS.
THE NEW FIRE STATION ONE IS ONLY ABOUT THREE MINUTES AWAY FROM THERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY RESPONSE STATION FOR THIS, UNLESS THAT TRUCK WAS ALREADY ON A CALL.
SO THIS WAS STAYING THE ETJ, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CITY LIMIT.
THESE FOLKS WANT, WANT TO GET IT OUT AND BUT TO BE LEFT IN THE ETJ.
UH, IT'S, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LEGAL FICTION HERE.
STATUS UNTIL WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE A NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, THEY'RE STILL TECHNICALLY IN THE ETJ AS SOON AS THEY DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN AG USE, IT COMES INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
SO IT, IT PROBABLY APPEARS ON THE CITY LIMIT MAPS BECAUSE IT, IT AFFECTS CONTINUITY WHEN YOU'RE ANNEXING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY, THEY ARE TECHNICALLY IN THE ETJ RIGHT NOW, BUT AS SOON AS THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE, THEY'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS.
UN UNLESS WE AMEND THAT AGREEMENT.
SO THE QUESTION HERE IS TO LET THEM NOT BECOME INTO THE CITY.
AND, UH, MY OTHER QUESTION IS FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M A NUMBERS GUY, SO MY, MY BRAIN'S RUNNING RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IS IT, IF WE WERE TO RUN, RECEIVE TAXES, JOYCE, WHAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS?
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I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL IF THEY STAY, UH, IF WE AMEND THE CONTRACT, IF I'M CORRECT ON THAT.CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? IF WE AMEND OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM AND THEY BILL WHAT THEY WANT WHEN WE GET MORE OUT OF IT THAT WAY THAN TRYING TO GET, HAVE 'EM IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WELL, IF THEY'RE IN THE A TJ, WE WOULDN'T GET ANY PROPERTY TAX.
UM, IF THEY, IF THEY STAY, IF THEY'RE IN THE CITY LIMITS, WE WOULD RECEIVE PROPERTY TAXES OFF THE, THE, BUT HOW MUCH IS THAT NUMBERS WISE? UM, LET, LEMME ABOUT 3 MILLION.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I HAD CALCULATED.
LET ME, LET ME GLANCE AT THAT REAL QUICK.
BUT WE'RE STILL, I'M RUNNING NUMBERS IN MY HEAD.
WE'RE JUST SELLING THEM WATER, RIGHT? COR CORRECT.
IN THIS SCENARIO THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF HERE, WE WOULD SELL THEM WATER AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, WE'LL MAKE MORE IF THEY STAY IN THE ETJ AND WHAT ELSE? WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE A WHOLE ARRAY OF SERVICES.
SERVICES SUCH AS ANIMAL SERVICES, DRAINAGE STREETS.
I THINK I'M, I'M FOR AMENDING THE, THE, THE, THE CONTRACT.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE, IF WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING OR IF THERE'S SOME OTHER CATCH HERE.
AND WE'RE GONNA LET YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
BUT, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, AND SINCE YOU REPRESENT THE FAMILY AS WELL, THAT 30, THOSE 30 ACRES, UH, THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE, WOULD BE DONATED TO THE CITY.
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY? ROUGHLY? 1.5 MILLION.
AND THAT EQUATES TO HOW MUCH? UH, AN ACRE.
SO IF WE DO THIS AGREEMENT, Y'ALL WOULD GIVE THE CITY 30 ACRES OF $50,000, 1.5 MILLION AN ACRE PROPERTY.
WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT OPEN-ENDED RIGHT NOW JUST TO SEE IF THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PAYING FOR THAT LAND.
BUT WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER AVENUES.
THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO THROUGH IT.
WELL, UM, ALSO, WE HAVE ALSO, I THINK WE POWWOWED WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SUBSIDIZING THAT OVERPASS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A SINGLE DOLLAR FOR THAT.
I'M, WE'RE GONNA, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.
I'M NOT, I'M, IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR MONEY, I'M NOT FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE YEAH, I, I, I KIND OF, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR, FOR ANY, FOR THE BRIDGE? NO.
BUT WE CAN FIND A DIFF DIFFERENT AVENUE IF Y'ALL ARE GONNA KILL THIS.
WELL, THE WAY IT WAS PRO PROPOSED TO, TO ME IS THAT, UM, Y'ALL WERE GONNA DONATE 30 TO 50 ACRES TO THE CITY FOR THIS AGREEMENT.
ARE YOU SAYING NOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND IT? WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH TO SEE WHICH AVENUE TO TAKE, BUT I THINK THE BEST APPROACH NOW IS THAT WE JUST CONVEY THE LAND TO THE CITY.
WE, WE, WE, WE NEED TO KNOW WE HAVE ACCOUNTS.
WHO, WHO WANTS CLARITY? YES, SIR.
WE, WE NEED, I I THINK THE WHOLE GROUP WANTS CLARITY.
OR IT'S OUR PREFERENCE GROUP THAT, OR IS IT THAT THEY DONATE THE 30 TO 50 ACRES? GEORGE, RICHARD, IT'S WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
NO, IT'S NOT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, IT'S WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO.
IS THAT THE AGREEMENT THEY MADE? THEY HAVEN'T MADE AN AGREEMENT.
HECTOR, SAME THING, RIGHT? I I, I'LL STAND WITH IT, BUT I, I HAVE MY OTHER, MY MIND'S RUNNING WITH NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.
SO TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE 1.5 MILLION, WE'RE STILL MAKING, GO BACK TO THE OTHER SCREEN.
RIGO HAVE PURCHASE? NO, JUST SEE 15 MILLION.
I DON'T WANT PER WE WON'T HAVE TO.
DO Y'ALL WANT THIS AGREEMENT? THE WAY IT WAS CONVEYED TO ME IS THAT Y'ALL WERE GONNA DONATE 30 TO 50 ACRES AND Y'ALL STILL HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT.
SO IF YOU AGREE TO THAT, YOU YOU'RE WITH IT.
IF, IF THEY GIVE US A 30, WELL WE'RE GONNA HEAR THE REST OF IT.
BUT, BUT ARE Y'ALL, YOU'RE OKAY WITH, UH, STEVE, THE AGREEMENT IF THEY DONATE 30 TO 50 ACRES? I HEAR IT BECAUSE, ALRIGHT.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY, MOHAMMAD WENT THROUGH MOST OF IT, BUT YOU'LL KNOW WHERE THE TRACK IS.
IT'S ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF ROSENBERG.
WE'RE NEXT TO FRITO-LAY PLANT AND WE HAVE FARMLAND ON THE OTHER THREE SIDES OF IT.
UH, WE'RE IN LAMAR DISTRICT AS
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WE WENT THROUGH EARLIER, IS THE CHAPTER 43 AGREEMENT, WHICH ALLOWS THE WENZEL PROPERTY TO STAY IN ETJ STATUS.WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT IN THE ETJ STATUS.
THEY CAN RENEW IT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
UM, BUT OURS PROPOSED PROPOSING IS THAT WE JUST STAY IN ETJ SO WE CAN BUILD OUR 40, 45, 50, 55, 60 AND 70 FOOT LOTS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA KEEP OUR COMMUNITY VISION THE SAME AS Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, SEND WALNUT CREEK MILLER'S PASS AND OUR MOST RECENT, THE PRESERVE AT ROSENBERG.
SO WE'LL UPHOLD ALL THOSE COMMUNITY STANDARDS THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND HAVE AGREED TO IN THE PAST, UH, VIA DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR KEY ACTIONS WITH THE CITY COME TO PLACE.
WE'RE GONNA WORK ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO HASH OUT THE 36 FOOT WIDE ROADS, THE DEDICATION OF PARK LAND PLUS SOME.
AND THEN WE WILL GET OUR LOT WIDTHS WHILE ALL GIVING Y'ALL THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU WANT ON OUR HOME SITES.
AND THEN WE WERE PLANNING TO RESERVE THE 30 ACRES FOR A SURFACE WATER PLANT.
AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD CONVEY OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND OUR WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO THE CITY FOR Y'ALL TO BENEFIT FROM THE UTILITIES.
AND THAT WAS THE EXHIBIT THAT I SHOWED YOU WITH THE 15 MILLION WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION PLAN.
AND, UH, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY FUNDING ON THE BRIDGE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY A 12 TO $20 MILLION PROJECT.
AND THEN ALL THE ROADS ARE GONNA BE MAINTAINED BY FORT BEND COUNTY SINCE IT'S ETJ STATUS.
ARE YOU DONE? NO, I, IF Y'ALL WANNA GO THROUGH LOT SIZES AND PERCENTAGES, I CAN GO THROUGH THIS TIME.
WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THOSE BULLETS THAT YOU HAD ON THE FIRST YES.
ELABORATE ON THE PAGE AND LOOK PAST THESE.
WE'RE, WE'RE RESERVING FACILITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR RESIDENTS.
SO WATER, PLANT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO SERVE ALL THE HOMES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE'LL CONVEY TO YOU ALL THROUGH THE MUD.
AND THEN, UM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE UTILITY REVENUE.
SO THE MUD'S GONNA PAY FOR THE PLANTS.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALCHEMY'S $14 MILLION ESTIMATE CAME IN.
IF IT, UH, THE, THE BULLETS THAT PREVIOUS PAGE? YES SIR.
FROM WHAT I SEE, IF THESE ARE THE, THE POINTS OF IT, I, I'M GOOD WITH IT.
WHAT I, WE WANT TO KNOW IS THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IF THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT.
SO I'M GOOD WITH IT TOO, MAYOR.
AND THEN WHEN THEY BRING THE, UH, THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT AGREEMENT, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK IT OVER.
UM, FELIX, LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT.
WELL, I MEAN THE BULLETS OF THE AGREEMENT.
SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
WELL BACK EVERYBODY COULD Y'ALL PLEASE LOOK AT THIS AND SEE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY.
AND THEY ESTIMATED, JUST IN CASE WE'RE MISSING ANYTHING.
'CAUSE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT MOST OF US ARE AN EXPERT ON.
I WOULD LIKE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT I DON'T, THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T CATCH.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE WHAT ABOUT THE STREETS? IT'S FORT BEND COUNTY.
SAYS AT THE BOTTOM T IS FORT BEND COUNTY.
IT SAYS AT THE RIGHT BOTTOM, WHICH SIZE IS THE, WHICH MEANS DRAINAGE.
THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S NOTHING WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR WATER AND SEWER.
FIRE, FIRE SERVICE AND FIRE SERVICE.
WATER AND SEWER AND FIRE SERVICE.
NOT POLICE, NOT ANIMAL SERVICES.
WHAT'S, HOW BIG ARE THESE, THESE PLANTS GONNA BE? ARE THESE GONNA BE JUST FOR THAT AREA? JUST FOR THE, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR EXPANSION IF NEEDED.
THERE'S PLETHORA OF LAND OUT THERE AND THAT'S OUR MISSION FOR THAT AREA.
YOU'RE OVERBUILD IT FOR THE FUTURE, CORRECT? JUST IN CASE Y'ALL WANT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, STEVE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA OVERBUILD, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THERE AND MAYBE WE, WE, MAYBE IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS, BUT THE AVERAGE, UH, PROPERTY, WHEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE HOMES, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA MARKET AS WELL? THEIR PRODUCTS? WE'RE GONNA HAVE LOW END TO HIGH END.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT PRODUCTS IN THERE.
UM, IT'S A MIXTURE OF OUR LENNAR STUFF AND OUR VILLAGE BUILDER BRAND, UM, WHICH IS ALL KIND OF JUST MERGING INTO LENNAR.
BUT, UH, THERE'LL BE EIGHT PRO PROJECT PRODUCTS GOING FROM 2 25 TO FOUR 80, MAYBE 500.
SO YOU'VE GOT STARTER, ENTRY STARTER AND YOU'VE GOT ROOM TO MOVE UP.
SO HOW MANY SEVENTIES ARE Y'ALL GONNA HAVE? WE ARE LOOKING
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AT 180 SEVENTIES AND 183 SIXTIES, 200, 4 50 FIVES, AND THEN, UH, 450 FIFTIES, 580, 40 FIVES, AND 600 FORTIES.SO PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANNA BUY A 40 FOOT LOT.
I THINK THIS GENERATION DON'T LIKE MOWING THE GRASS.
THEY MUST LIKE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR HEARING THEIR DISCUSSIONS TOO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU GOING GET WITH A 40 FOOT LOT.
BUT ANYWAYS, IT WON'T BE IN THE CITY IF WE, UH, IF WE RATIFY THIS AGREEMENT.
SO IT REALLY WON'T BE OUR BUSINESS PER SE.
UM, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE FOLKS THESE DAYS, UH, GOING OUT ON THE MARKET AND PERHAPS THEIR SINGLE PEOPLE ARE VERY QUIET OR HARD OF HEARING.
UM, ANYWAY, WE WISH Y'ALL ALL THE BEST.
IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE COUNSEL IS AGREEABLE TO THIS, UH, AGREEMENT, UM, UH, CONTINGENT THAT Y'ALL STICK TO YOUR, TO YOUR 30 ACRE YES SIR.
GEORGE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE AGREEMENT? I SEAT IN RIGHT IN MAYOR COUNTY.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS, UH, PAN OUT.
NOT PAN OUT, BUT PROGRESS RESTROOM BREAK.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RESTROOM BREAK.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? IF, IF YOU JUST STATE THE TIME THAT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK.
WE WILL RECONVENE NOW AT, UH, 8 0 4.
[5. Review and discuss proposed amendments to the Unified Development Code, Chapter 1, Sections 1-417, 1-422, 1-478, and 1-481, pertaining to screening and fencing requirements, and Chapter 4, Section 4-68, pertaining to rear building lines for single-family lots, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE.Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? IS EVERYBODY GOOD? WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
LET ME READ THE ITEM THEN WE'LL LET THE SPEAKERS REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE U UNITED NO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE SECTION SECTIONS ONE DASH FOUR 17 AND ONE DASH 4 22 AND ONE DASH 4 78 AND ONE DASH 4 81 PERTAINING TO SCREENING FENCING REQUIREMENTS.
AND CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION FOUR DASH 68 PERTAINING TO REAR BUILDING LINES FOR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
YEAH, WE, WE NEED SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS.
YOU WANNA GO FIRST JAMES OR SYDNEY? EITHER WAY IT DON'T MATTER.
ARE Y'ALL GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL THIS? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO TELL ALL OF IT, BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
ON MAIN THING I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT WAS THE SETBACKS.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF, BUT JAMES ISH.
THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, I THOUGHT WE KIND OF GOT AWAY FROM THE WEST FORT BEND MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
THIS LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF WEST FORT BEND MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PUT IN HERE.
I'M NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT NEW BUSINESSES.
I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE OLD PART OF TOWN AND THE OLD BUSINESSES, UH, SEEMS LIKE WE CAN'T HAVE, THE STATE WON'T LET US HAVE MASONRY STANDARDS ON HOUSES UNLESS WE NEGOTIATE 'EM.
BUT ACCORDING TO THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MASONRY FENCES TO BLOCK THE VIEW OF PEOPLE OF DUMPSTERS.
AND INSTEAD, ALL YOU, IF YOU GO TO SCREENING AND FENCING REQUIRED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USERS, IT SAYS ALL UTILITY AND MECHANICAL AREAS OUTSIDE STORAGE AND LOADING FACILITIES SHALL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW.
IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IT INCLUDES MASONRY, EVERGREEN AND WHAT'S NOT.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT CHAIN LINK FENCE OR WOOD FENCE.
MY IDEA ON THIS IS THAT, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE INCLUDES THOSE CARS OUT ON THE FREEWAY AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT MASONRY FENCE AROUND EVERY CAR.
WE'RE GONNA PUT A MASONRY FENCE AROUND MY METER POLES AT THE SHOP AND MAYBE OVER AT MCCOY'S, WE'RE GONNA PUT A MASONRY FENCE OVER THERE.
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THEIR MATERIAL THAT'S OUTSIDE STORAGE.I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK TOO GOOD.
AND MASONRY FENCE IS EXPENSIVE.
NOW ARE WE GONNA CALL MASONRY FENCE? UH, HARDY PLANK.
THEY, THEY LIKE TO THINK THEIR MASONRY, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING, WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING, WHAT WAS THAT CONCRETE BLOCK ON A CONCRETE SLAB? IT SAYS ALL, UH, MECHANICAL AREAS, ALL ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
SH CONSISTS OF A DECORATIVE WALL AND IT HAS TO BE THE HEIGHT OF THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT LIKE A METER POLE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A 16 FOOT MASONRY FENCE AROUND A METER POLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK TOO GOOD.
ALL OUTSIDE STORAGE, ALL DUMPSTERS SHALL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW.
THEY TOOK CHAIN LINK OUT WITH METAL GATES WITH SLATS.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH CHAIN LINK FENCE.
IT'S GOT THREE STRANDS OF BARB WIRE ON TOP OF IT.
WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GONNA STOP ANYBODY, BUT IT KEEPS THE AMATEURS OUT.
ALSO, A PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTING OR INSTALLING A NEW FENCE.
FOR UNDER SIX FOOT FENCES AND IN THE SETBACK, YOU CAN'T BUILD, YOU GOTTA HAVE 15 FOOT SETBACK ON THE ALLEY.
AND YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAD A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON THE ALLEY.
AND A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN ROSENBERG ARE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE ALLEY BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ALLEY BEHIND THEM.
SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THESE SETBACKS.
IN FACT, I, I DON'T LIKE THE SETBACKS.
I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THIS THING ALONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED ANY MORE REGULATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHO KEEPS WANTING TO FIND THESE THINGS.
AND IT'S ALL GONNA COST MONEY.
THESE SLABS FOR THESE DUMPSTERS.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT A DUMPSTER IS.
THEY SEE IT OVER THERE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS A CONCRETE WALL AROUND A DUMPSTER IS A DUMPSTER.
SO I JUST, I KEEP LOOKING AT THIS AS 15 FOOT SETBACK ON THE ALLEY.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A 15 FOOT BACKYARD.
THEY WANT A LITTLE STORAGE BUILDING IN.
I THOUGHT Y'ALL MIGHT GIVE ME ANOTHER THREE MINUTES FOR BEING HERE SO LONG.
WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THESE, UM, AND, AND, AND TALK ABOUT 'EM, THE DUMPSTER AND THE OTHER STUFF TOO.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
MY ADDRESS IS TEN NINE TEN BRAZE BAYOU DRIVE, HOUSTON, TEXAS.
AND WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE? I WAS READING THE, UH, WHAT THEY CALL THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND, UH, THE SAME THING THAT JAMES SAID TO TALKING ABOUT THIS SIX FOOT MASONRY FENCE.
AND THEY SAID THAT THIS REQUIREMENT CURRENTLY IS ONLY WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AREA.
I I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY MEAN BY CORRIDOR AREA.
WELL, I, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO PUT IN A MASONRY FENCE AROUND THE DUMPSTERS.
I PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT SIX DUMPSTERS AROUND TOWN.
WHEN I TALKED TO RICO OUT IN THE HALL, HE SAID, NO, THOSE SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT GRANDFATHERING IT.
AND UH, I DON'T KNOW WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, WHETHER IT'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OR THE TENANT.
WHEN YOU HAVE A WAREHOUSE COMPLEX, YOU MAY HAVE 10 TENANTS IN THERE AND EACH ONE OF 'EM HAS A DUMPSTER.
AND AS THE TENANTS MOVE IN AND OUT, THE SIZE OF THE DUMPSTER CHANGES.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THIS MASONRY.
I DUNNO WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT.
YOU'RE MAKE IT FOR A TWO CUBIC YARD OR YOU GONNA MAKE IT FOR A FOUR CUBIC YARD OR A SIX CUBIC YARD.
AND THEN IF IT HAS IRON GATES ON IT, WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPENING THOSE IRON GATES WHEN THE GARBAGE COLLECTOR COMES THERE? I DON'T THINK HE'S GONNA GET OUT OF THE TRUCK AND OPEN THEM.
AND, UH, I I JUST DON'T LIKE IT.
UH, I TELL YOU, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE SCREENED.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY GIVE US MORE PROBLEMS THAN THE ONES THAT AREN'T.
PEOPLE DRIVE BY AND THEY DON'T OPEN THE GATE.
THEY JUST SLING IT OVER THE FENCE AND THEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK, I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY BROKEN.
UM, MOHAMMAD, YOU COULD, YOU COULD READ ALL THIS, BUT I THINK LET'S CUT THROUGH THE CHASE ON SOME OF THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, LET'S GET THIS DUMPSTER BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY.
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UM, AND, UH, SO WHAT I WANNA ASK THE COUNCIL YEAH.THE, THE DUMPSTER REQUIREMENT, UHHUH, THIS WILL LEAD ONLY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SOMEBODY COME IN AND DO NEW DEVELOPMENT HERE.
THIS WOULD APPLY TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL'S EVEN OPEN TO, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS CAME FROM.
UH, BUT, UM, MAYOR, THIS ALL CAME FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE'RE JUST RELAYING WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WE EVEN NEED ANY SCREENING.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE, THE, THE TRUCK THAT DUMPS THE DUMPSTER, THEY, THEY'RE BIG, BULKY TRUCKS AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF ROOM TO OPERATE AROUND THESE DUMPSTERS TO BEGIN WITH.
AND YOU START PUTTING ANY FENCING AROUND THEM.
THESE ARE TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, ITEMS. DUMPSTERS MOVE.
YOU DON'T PAY YOUR BILL, THEY'LL COME GET YOUR DUMPSTER.
I'M NOT YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING ONES OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO WHAT THESE RULES ARE JUST FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE ALONG THE HIGHWAYS.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SCREENED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE BETTER SCREENED AND, AND THEY'RE SCREENED WITH BETTER MATERIAL WITH AL MATERIAL.
THAT'S WHAT, DO YOU SEE ANY NEW OF THESE BIG NEW COMPANIES WHEN THEY BUILD THESE FANCY DEVELOPMENTS OR NEW DEVELOPMENT? IF THEY WANT TO BUILD, UH, AND PUT A SCREEN AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN DO THAT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD REQUIRE THAT THOUGH.
IT SURE WOULDN'T REQUIRE MASONRY.
UM, AND, AND HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO, UH, THE TRASH COMPANY AND SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT THEIR OPINION IS? WHAT THEIR OPINION IS? I I, WHEN I, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS, I ALMOST CALLED JFL AND SAID, HEY, WHY DON'T Y'ALL COME TELL US YOUR VIEW? 'CAUSE THESE TRUCKS HAVE TO GET IN HERE AND EMPTY THIS STUFF.
I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE BUTTONING UP, UH, PICKING UP A DUMPSTER NEXT TO SOMEBODY'S VERY EXPENSIVE MASONRY WALL.
MAYBE, MAYBE A, A A WOODEN FENCE, YOU KNOW? BUT ANYWAY, SO THE QUESTION FOR US IS, DO WE WANNA REQUIRE ANY SCREENING? AND IF WE DO, AND WE DO HAVE THE SCREENING, WE ALREADY HAVE SCREENING FOR THOSE DUMPSTERS AROUND DUMPSTERS, RIGHT? THERE'S JUST NOT.
AND, AND SOMEBODY IS PROPOSING, BUT JUST FOR THE CORRIDOR AREAS, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S JUST A FEW CORRIDORS IN THE CITY, UHHUH WHERE THIS REQUIREMENT APPLY.
WELL, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE, IF WE HAVE THAT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH JUST LEAVING IT WOOD? WHY NOT JUST LEAVE? WHAT'S THERE THEN? WELL, CITYWIDE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY DUMPSTERS THAT'S JUST CITYWIDE.
BUT WE DON'T, WE DO HAVE THEM FOR SPECIFIC CORRIDORS.
SO IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS ALONG, LET'S SAY 59 MM-HMM
OR HIGHWAY 90, WHAT ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS ON AVENUE I OR SOMETHING? IF YOU ARE IN A CORRIDOR AREA, UH, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SCREEN THE, TO SCREEN THE DUMPSTER, WHAT OTHER CORRIDOR.
WHAT A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HERE ALONG FORCE STREET, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CORRIDOR.
DO WE HAVE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SCREEN ANYTHING.
DO YOU HAVE A MAP OF THE CORRIDOR AREA? UH, WE DO HAVE NOT RIGHT NOW HERE.
NOT, NOT THE SCREEN, BUT WE HAVE IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
ON THE, I'M NOT, YOU SAID THIS IS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
DOES THIS COUNT FOR, LIKE SYDNEY SAYS, WHEN HE HAS A NEW TENANT COME IN AND NOT NECESSARILY IF IT'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, IF IT'S ALREADY BUILT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
BUT IF YOU ARE PUTTING A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW DEVELOPMENT ON A, A GRASS OKAY FIELD, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE RULES.
THESE ARE FOR TRASH CANS AND DUMPSTER IS A BIG TRASH CAN I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO, I MEAN, MY SUGGESTION, LET ME ASK THE COUNCIL, WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS INSTEAD OF ADDING A BUNCH OF NEW STUFF.
SO LET, LET'S ASK FELIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS, HOW DOES IT, HOW DOES THIS HELP THE CITY TRASH COUNTER? WELL, IT IS, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU REALLY WANNA HIDE DUMPSTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THESE BIG BOXES SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REQUIREMENT, SOMEBODY CAN PLACE THEM ANYWHERE.
BUT THEN THOSE, THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES OR THE, THAT'S WHAT HE'S EXISTING BUSINESSES HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO DO ALL THAT KIND OF.
WELL, IF YOU ARE EXISTING, YOU ARE EXEMPT.
THIS WOULD BE ONLY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'RE SAYING? NEW BUSINESSES.
WELL, THIS IS ONLY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO IS IT LIKE, IF YOU BUY THAT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU WANNA BUILD A NEW OFFICE SPACE OR SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT MOHAM DID.
NOW THAT, NOW IF THAT'S ALREADY B NOW LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WHAT ABOUT IF I GO BUY A BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY THERE EXISTING? DO I HAVE TO GET TO THESE REQUIREMENTS? 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IF YOU ARE GRANDFATHER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU REALLY DO DO MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE.
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YOU, IF IT'S EXISTING YOU A NEW BRICK AND MORTAR, THEN, RIGHT? EXACTLY.OKAY, WELL HERE'S THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL.
'CAUSE I WANT GET THIS ONE ITEM OUT OF THE WAY.
DO Y'ALL WANT TO REQUIRE NEW CONSTRUCTION TO, FOR THESE FOLKS TO HAVE TO SPIN ON A SIX FOOT HIGH MASONRY FENCE WITH METAL GATES FOR ALL DUMPSTERS? YES OR NO? NO.
UH, HECTOR, YES OR NO? I, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M AGAINST IT.
WHY DON'T WE JUST FORGET THAT.
BUT WE GOT OTHER MORE PRESSING ISSUES IN THE CITY THAN WORRY ABOUT THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, SO GO AHEAD AND, UH, READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND SKIP NUMBER THREE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
STEP PRESENTED THIS ITEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, UH, ADD THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING ON JULY 1ST.
AFTER THAT SOME DISCUSSION, COUNCIL VOTED TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON JULY 22ND.
THE STAFF IS REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL REVIEW, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO SECTION FOUR DASH 68 SECTION, UH, ONE DASH FOUR 17 FROM THE JULY 1ST.
SO I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY JUST COVER THE REAR SETBACK, UH, THE 15 FOOT REAR BUILDING SETBACK AND JUST THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENT, NOT RESIDENTIAL PARKING LOT ADJACENT CENTER RESIDENTIAL.
JUST AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
LEAVE THE REST OF THE FUTURE WORKSHOP.
SO, BUT I THINK WE COVERED THE, OKAY.
THE DUMPSTER PORTION, SO THAT, THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
NUMBER FOUR, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE IT FOR A FUTURE? YES.
WE'RE GONNA LEAVE SOME TO A FUTURE MEETING.
SO HE'S ONLY GONNA, WE'RE ONLY GONNA DISCUSS ONE AND TWO.
I'M JUST GONNA SWITCH ONE AND TWO.
AND I THINK WE COVER THE, THE DUMPSTER SCREENING.
BUT WHY DO PARKING LOTS HAVE TO BE SCREENED? SO BASICALLY GIVE US AN EXAMPLE.
SO THERE, THE, BASICALLY THE REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW BASICALLY SAYS IF YOU ARE A, A BUSINESS, A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPAQUE FENCE.
THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THAT AND SAYING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS ONLY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SOMEBODY COMING AND BUILDING NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT REQUIREMENT BECOMES A SIX FOOT BASE OR SCREENING WALL TO PROTECT THAT RESIDENTIAL USE.
NOW YOU CAN APPLY FOR OTHER TYPE OF FENCES THROUGH AN EXCEPTION THAT WILL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, AND GETS APPROVED.
SO WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THAT TO BECOME MASON REQUIREMENT.
AND IT WILL BE AT THE, AT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE RESIDENTIAL USER MASONRY.
THAT'S IS IT, IS IT ALL REQUIREMENT THAT MASONRY RIGHT NOW IT JUST SAYS OPAQUE FENCE.
WELL, WHAT'S THEIR DEFINITION OF OPAQUE? IS THAT A WOODEN FENCE? IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
ANYBODY CAN INTERPRET IT ANY, WELL YOU CAN SEE ANYONE CAN INTERPRET IT IN ANY DIFFERENT WAY.
WHY DON'T YOU SAY PRIVACY FENCE? THAT COVERS WOOD.
I WOULDN'T MAKE SOMEBODY PUT IN A WALL.
WHAT? WELL, SO THE, THE PROBLEM WITH WOOD, WITH WOOD FENCES, UH, THAT DEVELOPER HAVE TO COME IN EVERY FIVE TO 10 YEARS TO, TO BASICALLY MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE THERE.
SO, BUT IF YOU BUILD THE, A MAIN PHASE THAT WILL BE DURABLE.
WE'LL STAY FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR NUCLEAR CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO AND REQUIRE SOMEONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE TO, TO BASICALLY CHANGE WHAT THEY HAVE.
BUT WE HAVE A FENCE ORDINANCE.
IF THE FENCE BREAKS, THEY HAVE TO FIX IT.
I I DON'T THINK REQUIRING A NEW BUSINESS TO PUT UP A MASONRY SERVICE.
WELL, MAYBE IF THEY PUT A MASONRY ONE, THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT FOR 25 YEARS.
WELL, YEAH, BUT WELL THAT'S UP TO THEM.
I, IF THEY WANNA SPEND MONEY EVERY FIVE YEARS, LET 'EM SPEND MONEY.
THEY HAVE TO, IF IT'S UH, IF THE FENCE BREAKS, I I KNOW YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT TEMPORARY OR THIS AND THAT OR WELL, IT'S NOT PERMANENT 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT DOESN'T LAST.
THIS COVERS ANY BUT THIS COVERS ANY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
I MEAN, NO, A NEW CONSTRUCTION DISTRICT.
I MEAN YEAH, SAY SOMEBODY BUILT A LITTLE TACO RESTAURANT AND THAT WOULD NEXT TO A HOME THEN.
RIGHT NOW IT'S SAYS OH, BIG THINGS BANKRUPT SOMEBODY, IT'S JUST BRAND NEW BRICK AND MORTAR.
IF A BUILDING'S ALREADY THERE,
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THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.RIGHT? NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
DO I THINK THERE, I THINK A WOODEN FENCE IS FINE.
HUH? NO, WHAT? I MADE A JOKE THERE.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR IT ALL.
I'LL SAY IF YOU WERE WANTING TO BUILD A, A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF YOUR PROPERTIES, EMPTY PROPERTIES AND YOU HAVE TO PUT A PRIVACY FENCE.
I, I ENJOY, I LIKE PRIVACY FENCES, BUT YOU KNOW, WOODEN FENCE FOR THE CITY TO COME ALONG AND SAY, HEY, IT'S GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, BRICK OR THIS AND THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S TOO MUCH NAME AS PRIVACY FENCE AND JUST CALL IT THIS.
I YOU WANNA PUT IRON GATE AND PUT THE PICKETS IN BETWEEN? YEAH.
HOW ABOUT THAT SIR? WE JUST CALL IT PRIVACY.
IS THAT COOL? I THINK IT IS, YEAH.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.
WHAT'S THAT? WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT TO, INSTEAD OF UH, MASONRY, IT'S JUST GONNA SAY PRIVACY FENCE LOT CHEAPER.
AND IT IS SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK WITH SLAPS.
UH, CHAIN LINK WITH, UH, WITH UH, SCREENING.
THE, THE ONLY, THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH PRIVACY THEN IT'S GONNA BE REALLY THE, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE, THE BUSINESS OWNER.
HE'S GONNA COME BACK AND SAY, WELL IT SAYS PRIVACY FENCE.
SO THIS IS HOW I SEE PRIVACY FENCE.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA GIVE HIS STAFF GUIDANCE ON WHAT TO BASICALLY APPLY.
WELL WHAT ELSE, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST THERE? MASONRY SOMETHING OTHER THAN MASONARY.
YOU LIST SOME OPTIONS SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, SO DO A PICKET FENCE, WOOD PICKETS.
WELL, I, I WOULD SAY TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF IT THEN THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS.
SO I WOULD SAY WOOD OR CYCLONE WITH UM, NOT CORRUGATED METAL.
WELL I MEAN IT, SO IF YOU DON'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT IS ALLOWABLE, SOMEBODY CAN PUT A, A CORRUGATED METAL.
WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE STEEL FENCES THAT LOOKS JUNKY.
UM, BUT HOW WE DO THAT, I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY WOOD, SOME OPTIONS JUST ACCEPT THE OPTIONS.
BUT YOU HAVE TO SO WHAT WHAT THE OPTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING STEVE.
I KNOW YOU, THAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE.
UH, THAT WELL HOW ABOUT, UM, LIKE JAMES SAID, UH, A CYCLONE WITH UM, NO YOU MEAN CHAIN LINK WITH THE CHAIN LINK WITH THE, WITH THE SLATS SLABS.
BUT THAT WOULD DETERIORATE FASTER THAN ANYTHING.
WELL, AND IT KIND OF LOOKS JUNKY TOO, BUT IT'S, I JUST DON'T WANNA BE TOO RESTRICTIVE IN THEY CAN STILL APPLY FOR AN EXCEPTION IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WRITING IT HERE.
I'VE SEEN SOMEWHERE THEY GOT THE IRON GATE AND THEY PUT THE PICKETS IN BETWEEN.
THEY PUT THE METALS AND THEN THEY PUT PICKET.
YEAH, LIKE UH, THAT ONE ON AVENUE I BRICK COLUMNS.
BRICK POSTS BRICK AROUND THE POST AND THEN THEY PUT PRI WOODEN.
SO I WOULD SAY, UH, IF THEY, I MEAN IF THEY WANT TO PUT MASONRY THAT'S IN, I WOULDN'T REQUIRE IT, I WOULD SAY OTHER THAN THAT WOODEN PRIVACY.
SO WE GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
SO YOU SAID WOULD MASONRY ANOTHER OPTION? IT'S JUST AN OPTION SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT.
SIDNEY, CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? CAN YOU COME, COME UP BECAUSE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.
'CAUSE YOU ARE ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
IF YOU BUILD A BRAND NEW GROCERY STORE, KROGER, RIGHT? AND THERE'S HOUSES BEHIND IT, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE WHOLE PARKING LOT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE FENCED NOW? NO, NO, NO.
IT'S JUST THE AREA THAT'S BASICALLY A BUDDING, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL INTO THE RESIDENTIAL.
DOES ANYBODY SEE ANY, I KNOW THERE'LL BE LOOPHOLES THAT COME UP.
DO Y'ALL, ANYBODY SEE ANY, UH, ANY ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED CLARIFICATION? MOHAMED, DO YOU NEED ANY, ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION? UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL WE WILL COME UP WITH SOME EXAMPLES.
IF WE CAN FIND OTHER EXAMPLES, WE CAN ADD THEM AS BEING VIABLE OPTIONS FOR SCREENING.
SO THERE'S, I THINK THAT'S BETTER.
NOW YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE SETBACKS, RIGHT? SEE WITH THE COUNT.
DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THE 15 FOOT SETBACK WAS FOR MAIN BUILDINGS? LIKE JUST FOR MAIN BUILDINGS, A GARAGE.
SO TO CLARIFY, I'VE GOT SOME GRAPHICS, NOT STORAGE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? NOT FOR STORAGE BUILDINGS AND NOT FOR POOLS.
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DO HAVE A SETBACK FOR THOSE.SO, ALRIGHT, SO JUST, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY, JAMES AND, AND, AND SYDNEY, HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT FOR STORAGE BUILDINGS.
UH, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE MAIN HOUSE OR THE GARAGE.
WHAT'S OUR SETBACK RIGHT NOW? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS A TYPICAL 7,000 SQUARE FEET LOT SIZE.
UM, THAT'S OUR AVERAGE BASICALLY LOT SIZE IN THE CITY NOW WITH A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 70.
SO I KIND OF DREW IT UP 70 BY A HUNDRED.
SO I WOULD HAVE A AND YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK.
YOU HAVE A 10 FOOT, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY ADOPTED NOW.
10 FOOT SIDE SETBACKS ON BOTH SIDES.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REAR SETBACK, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EASEMENT.
THE BUILDING CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 37 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THE ONE TO THE RIGHT.
THIS AN OPTION WITH THE EASEMENT.
SO MOST OF LOTS IN THE CITY HAVE THAT SEVEN FOOT EASEMENT IN THE BACK.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT EASEMENT, THE BUILDING OBVIOUSLY CANNOT GO THROUGH THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO EITHER HAVE A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN EASEMENT OR HOUSE WITH AN EASEMENT.
SO NOW YOU'RE SAYING THE MAIN BUILDING, WE DON'T HAVE A A, A REAR SETBACK FOR NEW.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE WAY WE HAVE OUR ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, I CAN GO BUILD A HOME ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
IF THERE'S NO AN EASEMENT, THAT WOULD BE THE LEFT GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT GRAPHIC.
IF YOU HAVE A SEVEN FOOT EASEMENT, YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SEVEN FOOT LINE.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KIND OF, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING FOR THE FIRST FLOOR THAT YOU CAN SEE.
NOW IF WE MOVE TO THIS GRAPHIC HERE, NOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BASICALLY AGAIN, THE 15 FOOT, 25 FOOT IN THE FRONT, 10 ON THE SIDES, UH, NOW YOU HAVE A 15 FOOT IN THE BACK AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, THE SEVEN FOOT AND THEN THE 15 FOOT.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE ONLY FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
NOW ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE RIGHT GRAPHIC, THIS SHOWS WHERE YOU CAN BASICALLY PUT YOUR, YOUR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS.
SO YOU CAN STILL PUT A PATIO IN THAT AREA THAT YOU CAN EXTEND IT FROM THE MAIN BUILDING TO THE SEVEN FOOT.
UM, SO WHERE DOES THIS PROPERTY, IS THAT PROPERTY IN THE CITY LIMITS? FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS RULE IF THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY.
UM, BECAUSE IT, IF IF IT'S PROPERTY THAT'S BEING REBUILT OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING PROPERTY, PROPERTY BEING REBUILT FOR THE PROPERTY BEING REBUILT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON MILLIE, THAT PROPERTY THAT JUST GOT TORE DOWN.
HOW, WHERE WOULD THAT SETBACK? THERE'S ONE ON MILLIE EMPTY PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
IF I WANNA GO BUILD A HOUSE, SIR, WHERE WOULD MY SETBACK BE? UM, IT WILL BE THE, THAT THE 25 ON THE FRONT.
NO, NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE REAR.
'CAUSE THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY IN THE BACK.
SO WHERE WERE THE UH, THERE'S A, SO THE EASTMAN IS WHAT? 20 FOOT ON THE ALLEYS? YES.
SO THEY CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
'CAUSE THEY GOT AN ALLEYWAY, RIGHT? AS OF RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN'T, NO, YOU CANNOT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE ALLEY.
YOU CANNOT BUILD THE MAIN BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE ALLEY WITH THE NEW YOU HAVE TO BE 10.
YOU CAN'T BUILD ALL THE WAY TODAY.
YOU CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE ALLEY.
UP TO THE ALLEY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU GOT A 10 FOOT, I GOT A 10 FOOT EASEMENT WITH YOU, RIGHT? YEAH.
BETWEEN US, EACH OF US HAVE 10 FOOT, BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE A 10 FOOT EASEMENT ON MY ALLEYWAY.
UNLESS YOU'RE GETTING PERMISSION, RIGHT? YEAH.
NO, NO, BUT OH, BECAUSE THERE'S AN EASEMENT ALREADY.
I CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE ALLEY AT MY HOUSE IF I WAS TO REBUILT.
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO THINK.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE BUYING PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
YOU, YOU COULD BUILD TO YOUR BACK FENCE IS WHAT HE'S SAYING.
AND YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO GO 15 FEET.
HE DAY 15 FOOT FROM YOUR, FROM THAT FENCE.
THE MAIN BUILDING JUST FOR THE MAIN, NOT A POOL, NOT A BARBECUE PIT.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE US.
SO ARE Y'ALL ARE, AND NOW FOR GOING BACK TO THE OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES LIKE STORAGE, BUILDING, PATIOS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED FIVE FOOT.
IF YOU SEE TWO, FIVE FEET IS TOO MUCH, YOU CAN REDUCE IT TO THREE AND STUFF IS OPEN TO THAT.
IF YOU WANNA REDUCE IT FROM FIVE TO THREE, AT LEAST IF SOMEBODY PUTTING A STORAGE BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO SET IT BACK AT LEAST THREE FEET FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING US? ARE YOU ASKING US
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FIVE, THREE OR? THIS HERE SAYS 50 15 NOW 15 FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STORAGE BUILDING.
IF YOU HAVE LIKE, OH, A STORAGE BUILDING THAT DON THINK WE LEAVE IT TO.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY SETBACK FOR A STORAGE BUILDING OR A MAIN BUILDING.
WELL, THE, THE MAIN BUILDING, I, I DON'T, PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA STILL HAVE THEIR PATIO ANYWAY.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA GO ALL OVER.
I DON'T THINK THE HOUSE SHOULD GO RIGHT UP TO THE DAMN EDGE.
IT LOOKS KIND OF JUNKY, BUT, BUT, UM, THAT'S MY VIEW.
BUT WE DON'T, OURS DON'T AND YOURS DON'T.
BUT LIKE YOUR GARAGE AT HOME, THAT'S GOES TO THE, UH, LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT WHAT, THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE, YOUR FENCE FROM THE EDGE? PROBABLY FIVE FEET MAYBE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE YOU DRIVING.
HEY, THAT, THAT OLD GARAGE WAS THERE WHEN I GOT THERE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT IF SOMEBODY KNEW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT EMPTY LOT, IF THEY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE WHERE THEY CAN DRIVE INTO THE BACK, LIKE THE WAY YOU USE YOURS.
WELL NOW THEY, NOW THE CITY DON'T LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO USE THE ALLEYS FOR GARAGES.
YOU ALSO NEED SOME SPACE TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER INTO A GARAGE DOOR.
WE GOT PLENTY OF SPACE IN THE ALLEYWAYS IN, IN OLD ROSENBERG.
BUT IS THIS FOR, JUST, WOULD THE THIS AREA BE CONSIDERED GRANDFATHER THEN? OR IS WE, WE COULD WRITE IT TO MAKE IT GRANDFATHER FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PLOTTED AND IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED.
AND THIS WOULD APPLY ALREADY FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT, WHAT UH, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION, HECTOR? WHERE DO YOU WANNA GO? GRANDFATHER? WHATEVER'S ALREADY BUILT IN THE CITY.
AND THEN, I MEAN, NOT BUILT, BUT IF THEY WANT BUILD, IF LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THAT EMPTY PROPERTY NEXT TO YOUR REALTOR.
IF YOU WANNA BUILD ALL THE WAY TO THE END, I THINK IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
THAT'S JUST MY, UH, UH, THE MAIN BUILDING.
NEXT TO YOUR, YOUR MAIN BUILDING.
WELL, NO, I MEANT ON MY VACANT LOT.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO BUILD UP TO THE ALLEY.
BUT WHAT ABOUT IF YOU DID, IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE AROUND TO THE BACK, LIKE YOU DO AT YOUR HOME, WHICH YOU, YOU SEE, WELL YOU NEED, HIS POINT IS YOU NEED, YOU NEED ROOM TO, TO MAKE THE TURN.
YOU COULDN'T IF YOU, IF YOU BUILT UP, IF YOU BUILT UP, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE.
YOU HAVE TO SET IT BACK A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN MAKE THE TURN AT LEAST FIVE FEET.
SO THE ALLEY 20 FEET, IF I WERE GONNA EVER DO IT, I WOULD WANT MORE BECAUSE I, I DRIVE A TRUCK, RIGHT? SO YOU NEED MORE SPACE.
AND I MIGHT HAVE, NOW YOU WON'T BE GRANDFATHER FOR THE STORAGE BUILDINGS UNLESS WE CHANGE IT.
THAT WOULD THAT, WOULDN'T YOU HAVE GRANDFATHER STATUS FOR IF YOU BRINGING LIKE A STORAGE FROM HOME DEPOT OR FROM THAT, THAT ONE WOULD REQUIRE, UM, UNLESS YOU CHANGE IT TO THREE OR TWO.
BUT YOU WON'T BE GRANDFATHER FOR THAT.
I THINK YOU, ON THE STORAGE BUILDING, WE NEED AT LEAST HAVE THREE FEET FROM THE, MY OPINION.
'CAUSE ALRIGHT, SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR NUMBERS, UH, FOR STORAGE.
THREE FEET FOR STORAGE BUILDING.
YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT, RICHARD? THREE FEET.
UH, HOW ABOUT FOR SETBACK FOR MAIN BUILDINGS? I DON'T WANNA POKE AROUND.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MESS AROUND WITH ANYTHING.
I'M WITH YOU ON THAT, RICHARD.
WHO'S, WHO'S, WHO'S COMPLAINING, WHO, WHO, WHO'S GETTING HURT RIGHT NOW.
OR WE CAN DO, THEY'RE WANTING TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, IT'S NOT A MATTER, THIS WILL BE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
YOU CAN LIMIT IT TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THEY'RE WANTING TO, THE IDEAL FOR STANDARDS IS FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENT.
WELL, I JUST DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT.
WE, WE KNOW WE CHANGED THIS AND THEN SOMEBODY TWO YEARS AGO BUILT A SOMETHING IN THEIR YARD AND NOW THE CITY FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY OH, TRYING TO GET ON THEM.
THAT'S, THAT'S TOO BIG OF A PROJECT.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
IF, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN IN, IN THE CITY CAME AFTER 'EM, HOPEFULLY THEY COULD TELL ONE OF US.
DO Y'ALL UNDERSTAND? YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT ALSO, PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES TOO.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT.
PEOPLE JUST GO PUT 'EM ANYWHERE NOW REQUIRE A, A PERMIT REQUIRED.
MY SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE A SETBACK FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
NOT PATIOS, NOT STORAGE BUILDINGS, NOT POOLS, NOT BARBECUE PITS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAIN BUILDINGS.
THEY, THEY CAN HAVE OUTDOOR KITCHENS.
SO SOMEBODY IS STORING A STORAGE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY LINE NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY.
SOMEBODY PUT A STORAGE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO YOUR FENCE.
THEY CAN RUN WHATEVER THEY WANT TO AS LONG AS THEY STAY ON THEIR SIDE AND LET ME USE THEIR FACILITIES WHEN NEEDED.
LOOK, LET'S NOT CONVOLUTE THIS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT REAR THE REAR, RIGHT? ALRIGHT,
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LET'S TALK ABOUT REAR THE RIGHT.SO, UH, FELIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT REAR SETBACK FOR MAIN BUILDINGS ONLY, YES OR NO? UM, FOR MAIN BUILDINGS, FOR MAIN BUILDING, FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, MAIN BUILDINGS FROM THE BACK.
THE BACK FENCE OF THE, OF THE ALLEY.
I, I WOULD JUST, UH, I WOULD SAY WHAT? FIVE.
WHAT IS ZERO? OH, IT'S 15 RIGHT NOW FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
IT'S 15 RIGHT NOW FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS AND IF NO PROPOSING PROPOSING, WHAT DO WE HAVE? WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA LEAVE IT ALONE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? UH, AS FAR AS THE STORE, THIS ACCESSOR STRUCTURES.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR MONTHLY.
WHERE YOU GOING? WE'LL GET TO THE BEST PART OF THE MEETING.
THAT'S WHY I WAS RUSHING EARLIER.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WE LOST, WE'RE LOSING OUR MEMBERS HERE.
SO LET'S GET THROUGH THIS HERE PRETTY QUICK.
[6. Review and discuss the Animal Control and Shelter monthly report for June 2025, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Jarret Nethery, Assistant Police Chief) ]
REVIEW AND DISCUSSED ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER.MONTHLY REPORT FOR JUNE, 2025.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.
AND DID, WE'VE HAD NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
ALL THESE FOLKS THAT WERE OPINIONATED ABOUT ANIMALS AND NONE OF THEM HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO THE, UH, NUMBERS.
SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS QUICK.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MARTHA, UH, AS A BULLDOG THAT CAME INTO THE SHELTER WITH AN INJURY.
WE HAD, UH, AUSTIN BULLDOG RESCUE PULLED MARTHA AND IS, UH, PAYING FOR A SURGERY AND GONNA, UH, THEY, THEY TOOK MARTHA OFF OUR HANDS.
SO SHE'S BEEN TRANSFERRED AND OFF TO, UH, A BETTER LIFE.
OKAY, WELL, WE GOTTA THANK THEM.
UM, THESE ARE SOME CUTE PUPPIES HERE IN MAY.
SO, UH, WE HAD AN INFLUX OF PUPPIES.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN FOSTERED OR FOUND, UH, HOMES, SO THEY, THEY'RE NO LONGER IN THE SHELTER, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THEM.
UH, SO THEY'RE NOT EXPOSED TO ANY, UH, DISEASE OR OTHER ANIMALS THAT, UH, THAT CAN GET THEM SICK.
SO, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF PUPPIES COME IN.
UH, MS. BERG, LAURA BERG, I THINK SHE'S, SHE'S, UH, VISITED WITH Y'ALL A FEW TIMES.
UM, HER, UH, RESCUE BERG FOSTER LIFE WAS ABLE TO HELP US WITH FOUR, UH, SMALL CHIHUAHUAS.
UH, SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM A SPOTLIGHT, UM, FOR TAKING THOSE FOUR CHIHUAHUAS OUT OF THE SHELTER.
AND, AND, UM, TRANSFERRING THEM OUT.
UH, WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, IN JUNE WE HAD ANOTHER SECOND, UH, LARGE ADOPTION EVENT, UH, WITH FORT BEND COUNTY AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
UM, IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
UM, WE ENDED UP HAVING THREE ADOPTIONS AND THEN WE PROBABLY FACILITATED MORE THROUGH BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, UH, INTAKES FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE HAD 120 ANIMALS COME IN.
AS FAR AS OUTCOMES, WE HAD 102 TOTAL OUTCOMES.
40 DOGS, 51 CATS, AND 11 OTHER.
UH, WE DID HAVE, UH, FIVE, UH, IN SHELTER DEATHS.
WE HAD THREE KITTENS THAT, UM, WERE, UH, THAT DIED OF, UH, DISEASE.
AND, UH, TWO THAT FROM FAILURE TO THRIVE, IT'S JUST COMMON WITH SMALL KITTENS THAT COME IN.
UH, TOTAL LIVE RELEASE RATE WAS 95%.
AND, UH, ALL OTHER WERE, UH, RELEASED ALIVE.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD FIGURE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD REPORT RIGHT THERE ON THAT PARTICULAR PAGE.
UH, WE HAD 116 DISPATCH FIELD ASSIGNMENTS, FOUR BIKE CASES INVESTIGATED.
UH, WE HAD NO FORMAL COMPLAINTS.
WE HAD FOUR CRUELTY CASES THAT, THAT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED.
UM, WE HAD THREE ADOPTION EVENTS.
WE HAD ONE IN THE SHELTER THAT YIELDED FIVE ADOPTIONS, THREE DOGS, TWO CATS.
UH, WE HAD ANOTHER ADOPTION EVENT AT THE KENDRA SCOTT, UM, WHICH FACILITATED ONE ADOPTION.
AND THE COUNTY EVENT, WHICH TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
UH, WE DID HAVE EIGHT SURRENDER DENIALS.
THAT'S PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AND WANTED TO SURRENDER THEIR OWN ANIMALS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TAKE.
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HOW IS THE SHELTER? THE NEW EXPANSION COMING ALONG? IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD.UM, THE, UM, OUR, OUR FACILITIES, UH, GUYS HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN, IN BUILDING OUT SOME SPACE INSIDE.
UM, THE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING IS REALLY NICE.
LET US KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE BECAUSE WE WANT TO INVITE THE COUNCIL TO IT AND THE PUBLIC.
YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
WE, YOU KNOW, FOR A SHORT AMOUNT, I MEAN, COUPLE HOURS.
IF SO, LET THE PUBLIC COME AND LOOK AT IT.
YEAH, I, I SAW A RECENT ORDER THAT, UH, CAME THROUGH, UM, FOR SOME OF THE, THE, THE WASHING STANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE, IT'S, IT'S HIGH DOLLAR ITEMS. THAT'LL BE GOOD TO SHOW OFF.
SO ONCE WE GET THOSE INSTALLED, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.
ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
FELIX, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR JUST COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS? UH, JUST WANNA SAY GOOD JOB.
UH, I WOULD PUT THOSE, THAT REPORT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF IT'S NOT ALREADY THERE.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF MOTION, I DON'T THINK NEED A MOTION.
ANYWAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING SAY YES.
WE'LL SEE Y'ALL, WHAT, IN TWO WEEKS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, AN EXTRA WEEK OFF.