Oct 21, 2025 City Council Meeting

WE'RE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION FROM THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION, RECOGNIZING ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ACHIEVEMENT AND RE-ACCREDITATION THROUGH BEST PRACTICES ACCREDITATION PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WOULD Y'ALL PRAY WITH ME? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AND WE JUST HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR.

WE THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN EACH ONE OF US, OR WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY THAT YOU'VE PLACED US IN AND ALLOW US TO LIVE.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY HERE.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL.

EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS THAT DILIGENTLY AND REGULARLY ALONG WITH THE MAYOR GIVE THEIR TIME AND EFFORT, UM, TO SEE THAT THIS PLACE IS THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE FOR ITS CITIZENS TO LIVE IN.

FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL AS WELL FOR YOUR WORD THAT GUIDES OUR LIVES.

WE'RE THANKFUL THAT YOU GIVE US THE PROMISE THAT THE RIGHTEOUS WILL NEVER BE SHAKEN.

THOSE WHO KNOW YOU AND ARE RIGHTEOUS THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS, HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR AND WILL NEVER BE SHAKEN.

FATHER, YOUR WORD ALSO TELLS US THAT THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM AND REVERENCE FOR YOU.

LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT THAT BE, UM, THE CASE, UM, FOR EACH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR EACH ONE OF OUR CITIZENS, EVEN AS WE ENCOUNTER AND GO THROUGH THIS MEETING THIS EVENING, JUST GIVE THEM WISDOM IN THE DECISIONS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE BEFORE THEM IN DEBATING AND HEARING AND DISCUSSING AND DECIDING.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EACH ONE, UH, THAT SERVES SO WELL AND DILIGENTLY.

LORD, WE ALSO THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE FORCE AND THOSE WHO WILL BE RECOGNIZED TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THEIR, UH, SACRIFICIAL SERVICE.

WE ARE SO BLESSED IN THIS PLACE, AND WE THANK YOU AND WE OFFER THIS PRAYER IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

LET'S PLEDGE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, PASTOR NATE SPRINKLE FROM CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN ROSENBERG.

UH, NOW

[ Presentation of Certificate from the Texas Police Chiefs’ Association recognizing the Rosenberg Police Department’s achievement of re-accreditation through the best practices accreditation program. (Rick Ashe, City of Liberty Police Chief) ]

WE HAVE WITH US A GUEST, RICK ASH FROM THE CITY OF, UH, CITY OF LIBERTY POLICE.

HE'S A POLICE CHIEF OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY.

WELCOME, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR MAKING THE TREK FROM LIBERTY ALL THE WAY TO ROSENBERG.

THERE WE ARE.

YEAH, TRAFFIC WAS INTERESTING GETTING ACROSS HOUSTON TODAY.

SO, UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITIZENS, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO COME HERE THIS EVENING.

UM, MY NAME IS RICK ASH.

I'M THE POLICE CHIEF IN THE CITY OF LIBERTY.

I'M ALSO AN ASSESSOR FOR THIS, UH, POLICE CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION ACCREDITATION PROGRAM.

SO I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT GOES AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, CHECKS AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO BE ACCREDITED.

SO WHEN WE DO THESE PRESENTATIONS, THEY ALWAYS ASK FOR ONE OF THE ACCREDITOR, THE ASSESSORS TO COME DO THE, THE PRESENTATION.

SO THAT'S HOW I, I, I GOT HERE.

UH, I HAVE THE HONOR TONIGHT OF REPRESENTING THE, THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM.

I HAVE A SHORT 30 MINUTE PRESENTATION, SO NO.

ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, LET'S GET STARTED.

SO, THE POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IS COMPRISED OF HUNDREDS OF POLICE CHIEFS AND SHERIFFS ACROSS THE STATE.

LEADERS ARE COMMITTED TO ADVANCING PROFESSIONALISM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TONIGHT TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A CERTIFICATE OF RE-ACCREDITATION WITH TPCA.

UH, YEARS AGO, THE ASSOCIATION CREATED, UH, THE ACCREDITATION PROGRAM PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE IN TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH OTHER, UH, OCCUPATIONS THAT DO ACCREDITATION AS WELL, UH, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO, UM, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, UNIVERSITIES, ALL DO TYPE OF ACCREDITATION.

THE TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCREDITATION PROGRAM IS, UH, COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY, UH, YET IT DEMANDS A HIGH LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

AGENCIES MUST DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH 173 DIFFERENT STANDARDS, UH, ROOTED IN TEXAS LAW COURT RULINGS AND

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BEST PRACTICES.

UH, THESE STANDARDS COVER THE FULL SCOPE OF POLICE OPERATIONS, INCLUDING USE OF FORCE, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, PURSUITS, EVIDENCE, UH, THE WHOLE TRAINING AMONG MANY OTHERS.

THIS PROGRAM HAS BECOME THE GOLD STANDARD FOR PROFESSIONAL POLICING IN TEXAS AND THE STATE, AND WE ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO MEET THESE STANDARDS.

THE ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT, I FIRST GOT YOURS IN 2013 FOR OUR RECORDS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

UH, BECOMING THE 73RD AGENCY IN THE STATE TO BECOME ACCREDITED.

UH, AND TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO GIVE THEM THEIR RE-ACCREDITATION.

YOU HAVE TO, EVERY FOUR YEARS YOU'RE RE-ACCREDITED, YOU'RE REINSPECTED AGAIN TO PROVE THAT YOU'RE STILL MAINTAINING ALL THAT.

UM, I GET PAST THAT.

SO JUST, UH, FOR PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE ABOUT 2,800 LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN TEXAS, UH, THAT'S POLICE, YOU KNOW, YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UNIVERSITIES, SHERIFFS, ABOUT 2,800 TOTAL.

ONLY 224 AGENCIES HAVE COMPLETELY SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE PROGRAM.

SO I DON'T DO MATH, BUT WAS THAT TOP 10%? AT LEAST? UH, YEAH.

SO THEN, SO, UH, SO YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF, OF WHAT YOU YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THIS EVENING.

WE'D LIKE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, CHIEF JONATHAN WHITE AND THE ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE AND CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO PROFESSIONAL POLICING.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU? I KNOW PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK THIS QUESTION.

I GET THIS A LOT.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE CITY? IT MEANS YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT ONLY MEETING, BUT EXCEEDING, UH, CURRENT BEST PRACTICES.

IT ENSURES THE CITY LEADERSHIP AND EVERY RESIDENT THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT OPERATES WITH, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND EXCELLENCE.

UH, THEY FOLLOW ALL THE BEST PRACTICES IN, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TODAY.

IT CONFIRMS THAT ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AMONG THE VERY BEST IN, IN THE STATE.

THE CERTIFICATE I HAVE TONIGHT IS SYMBOLIC.

WHILE IT REPRESENTS PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE, IT'S TRUE VALUE LIES IN THE PROCESS, THE DEDICATION, THE DISCIPLINE, AND THE COMMITMENT REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE IT.

AND THE WORK DOESN'T STOP HERE.

UH, THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN EVERY YEAR.

THEY HAVE TO SEND IN REPORTS THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THEIR STANDARDS, AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL BE BACK OUT HERE AGAIN IN FOUR YEARS TO TO CHECK THEM AGAIN.

SO, UH, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR LETTING ME COME IN TONIGHT AND, AND PRESENT THIS.

IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT.

UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, CHIEF, YOU WANT TO DO PICTURES OR? YES.

HOW DO YOU WANNA DO THIS? YES.

TO A WELL DESERVED, UH, ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S NOT AN EASY JOB OR AN EASY ACHIEVEMENT.

DON'T Y'ALL WANT THE COUNCIL? WE'LL DO TWO.

ONE.

YOU NEEDED TO SCOOT OVER.

YEAH, I WAS RIGHT IN BETWEEN Y'ALL.

IT PROBABLY LOOKS LIKE I WAS STANDING BEHIND Y'ALL.

WELL, THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THAT'S A VERY NICE RECOGNITION

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SO, CONGRATULATIONS, CHIEF, AND CONGRATULATIONS, UM, OFFICERS.

ALRIGHT,

[ Presentation of Certificate of Recognition to Kristy Garza, Owner of Kristy’s Pet Salon, for her generosity, dedication, and volunteer services in support of the Rosenberg Animal Control & Shelter. (William Benton, Mayor) ]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION IN THE COUNCIL.

IS, UH, WELCOME, UH, ENCOURAGED TO, IN FACT, ANY OF THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT, THAT I GIVE ARE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

SO, ANYTIME Y'ALL WISH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE AND, UH, COME DOWN AND JOIN.

UM, IF YOU'RE DRESSED APPROPRIATELY, I'M KIDDING WITH YOU, BUT, UM, NO, IF YOU WISH TO, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT DRESSED APPROPRIATELY.

IF NO, IF YOU'RE PRESENT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

UH, I HAVE SHOES ON TODAY.

DO YOU HAVE SHOES ON? DO YOU TO TAKE ALL THE PICTURES? NO, I HAVE SHOES ON TODAY.

WELL, WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE.

AS LONG AS I CAN HIDE BEHIND YOU OR HAVE SOMEONE TO HIDE BEHIND.

ANYWAY, UM, CHRISTY GARZA HAS BEEN A, A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR CITY AND OUR, TO OUR ANIMAL SHELTER AND TO OUR MISSION.

AND ONE OF OUR MISSIONS HAS BEEN THIS NO KILL PROS, UH, NO KILL POLICY.

THAT'S NOT AN EASY POLICY TO MAINTAIN.

UM, BUT SHE HAS HELPED US BECAUSE SHE AND HER CREW, UM, WASH AND DRY AND, AND, UH, GROOM THESE ANIMALS THAT ARE UP FOR ADOPTION.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, SHE DOESN'T CHARGE THE CITY ANYTHING.

UM, AND, UH, HER SERVICES ARE EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO THAT COST.

SO, CHRISTIE, WITHOUT YOU, WE COULD NOT DO, WE COULD NOT FULFILL THAT MISSION.

SO YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT.

SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU AND WE WANNA RECOGNIZE YOU.

UM, AND THAT'S THE LEAST WE COULD DO.

SO I'VE GOT A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU AND I WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL IF Y'ALL WISH, UM, WE COULD PRESENT IT TOGETHER.

SO WHY DON'T WE DO THAT AND THEN I'LL READ IT OVER HERE.

I'LL READ IT UP THERE.

IN FACT, LET ME JUST READ IT, READ IT RIGHT HERE, AND THEN WE WILL, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, WE CAN GET YOU AND, AND, UH, YOUR CREW AND WE WILL GRAB A PICTURE IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND.

SO LET ME READ THIS CERTIFICATE OF ROSENBERG'S CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION TO CHRISTY GARZA, UH, AND GRATEFUL RECOGNITION TO OF YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR GENEROUSLY DE YOUR, FOR YOUR GENEROUS GENEROSITY, DEDICATION, VOLUNTEER SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF ROSENBERG ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER.

YOUR COMMITMENT AND COMPASSION HAVE MADE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES AND ANIMALS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THIS SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.

HELLO.

SO, AND I,

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I MEANT TO DO THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS FIRST.

[ Announcements. ]

WE GOT SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA.

FOLKS LIKE CHRISTY GARZA HELP THE CITY MAINTAIN WHAT, UH, AGAIN, WHAT OUR, ONE OF OUR MISSIONS ARE, WHICH IS TO TRY TO ADOPT OUT AS MANY OF THESE ANIMALS AS POSSIBLE.

SO FIRST, UH, THERE WILL BE A DRIVE THROUGH MICROCHIP VACCINE CLINIC ON WEDNESDAY.

THAT IS TOMORROW FROM 9:00 AM TO NOON AT ST.

PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH, LOCATED AT 1208 FIFTH STREET IN ROSENBERG.

THIS IS OPEN, UH, TO OWNED PETS OF RESIDENTS OF ROSENBERG AND RICHMOND WITH A VALID ADDRESS ON THEIR, ON THEIR, UH, DRIVER LICENSE.

THIS IS HELD BY ROSENBERG ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER WITH RABIES VACCINES AND MICROCHIPS DONATED AND SPONSORED BY FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG, HOMELESS PETS AND CORE VACCINES BY PETCO.

LOVE THIS.

WILL, THIS IS, WHILE SUPPLIES LAST, THERE WILL BE 75 AVAILABLE.

SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE, UH, ROSENBERG, WELL, THE SHELTER AND FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG, HOMELESS PETS AND PETCO.

LOVE WHAT TIME? THAT'S GONNA BE FROM NINE TO NOON.

AND MAYOR, YOU SAID THIS IS FOR THE MICROCHIP EVENT, IS THAT RIGHT? MICROCHIP? YES.

AND I WANNA MAKE IT KNOWN THAT THIS IS NOT JUST AND RABIES, RIGHT, WHICH ARE BOTH REQUIRED BY LAW AND, AND WILL BE REQUIRED BY LAW.

SO I WANNA MAKE IT A A POINT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A, IF YOU OPT IN, UM, THIS IS MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE AND IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE TO MICROCHIP.

AND, UM, AND SO I WANNA POINT THAT OUT 'CAUSE PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE THAT, THAT YOU REALLY DO NEED TO MICROCHIP YOUR PET.

IT IS GONNA BE REQUIRED, AND WE WE'LL LATER BE SETTING PENALTIES FOR FAILURE TO MICROCHIP.

I THINK THAT'LL BE ON ONE OF OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY? UM, SO IT WILL BE AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL HAVE PENALTIES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE.

SO IF YOUR PET IS NOT MICROCHIPPED, UM, PLEASE DO IT NOW.

WE'LL PROBABLY BE SETTING A GRACE PERIOD, BUT IT WON'T BE VERY LONG.

UH, IF YOU DO GET YOUR PET FROM THE ANIMAL SHELTER, IT IS LIKELY ALREADY MICROCHIPPED.

BUT IF YOUR PET IS NOT FROM THE SHELTER, MICROCHIP IT.

WELL, I, WELL, THAT'S PENDING.

WE JUST HAD OUR, WE JUST HAD OUR MEETING, UM, MONDAY.

AND SO I'VE MADE COMMENTS DURING THAT MEETING ABOUT WHEN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK I PROPOSED ON THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT SET.

WE STILL HAVE TO MEET ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT THAT WILL BE LAW, EXCUSE ME, LAW TO MICROCHIP YOUR PET.

SO PLEASE, UM, COME MICROCHIP YOUR PET IF IT'S NOT ALREADY.

SO THE EVENT TOMORROW, IS THAT, UH, FOR 75, IS THAT FREE? IT'S FREE TO THE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE THE FIRST 75.

LIKE I SAID, IF YOUR PET'S NOT, UM, IF YOUR PET IS FROM OUR SHELTER, IT'S PROBABLY MICROCHIPPED, UHHUH, .

IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, I THINK CAROLYN'S GONNA HAVE A READER THERE, AND SO WILL OMAR.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, PLEASE SHOW UP AND, AND WE CAN CONFIRM.

OR LIKE ME, I HAVE PETS WHO ARE MICROCHIPPED, BUT I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT I UPDATED MY INFORMATION, LIKE MY ADDRESS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO EVEN IF YOUR PET IS MICROCHIPPED, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE INFORMATION ON THAT MICROCHIP IS UPDATED.

SO CAROLYN AND OMAR WILL BE THERE TO HELP YOU FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND, UM, MAYBE YOUR PET IS MICROCHIPPED AND YOU JUST NEED TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION IF YOU'VE MOVED OR IF THE OWNERS HAVE CHANGED.

UM, BUT THIS WILL BE LAW.

AND I SEE.

HELLO.

HALLOWEEN SHELTER ADOPTION EVENT IS SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 25TH FROM 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AT THE SHELTER LOCATED AT 1207 BLOOMY ROAD.

ADOPTION FEES ARE WAIVED.

REFRESHMENTS OF NACHO, UH, THERE WILL BE REFRESHMENTS LIKE NACHOS, SNOW CONES, POPCORN AND LEMONADE WILL BE SERVED TO THOSE WHO TOUR THE SHELTER BY FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG'S, HOMELESS PETS.

COME AND FIND YOUR FOREVER FURRY FAMILY MEMBER.

SO THESE TWO EVENTS AND OTHERS LIKE THOSE.

AND WITH THE HELP OF

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SO THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE GOOD WORDS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP GETTING THAT OUT TO FOLKS, ESPECIALLY FOLKS THAT SAY THAT, UM, SAY OTHERWISE.

ALRIGHT, OTHER, OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THE BOOGEYMAN BASHED SET FOR HALLOWEEN, OCTOBER THE 31ST.

HIS IN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN ROSENBERG DISCOVERED DOWNTOWN ROSENBERG IS, IS HOSTING BOOGEYMAN BASH ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST FROM FIVE TO 8:00 PM UH, IN THE PARK LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE POST OFFICE.

THAT IS 21.

I I GUESS THAT IS THE SAME PARK, 2100 AVENUE G.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE SAME LOCATION OR, OR IS THAT JANICE LAUREL PARK? NO, IT'S, IT'S THE CITY PARK SQUARE.

SO, UH, YEAH.

WATER TOWER SQUARE, THEY CALL IT, RIGHT? YEAH.

THE CITY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY YEARS AGO.

I, I, AND I RECALL THAT I WAS ON THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.

ALRIGHT, THIS EVENT WILL FEATURE A CHILDREN COSTUME CONTEST, TRICK, OR TREATING, UH, TRUNK, OR TREATING IN GAMES AND MUCH MORE.

THE EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR QUESTIONS.

CALL 8 3 2 5 9 5 35 20.

ALRIGHT, UM, FALL FEST SET FOR NOVEMBER 8TH, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, SAVE THE DATE.

JOIN US SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 8TH FROM TWO TO SIX FOR FALL FEST AND HISTORIC DOWNTOWN ROSENBERG, ALSO LOCATED AT WATER TOWER PARK, 2100 AVENUE G.

THIS EVENT WILL FEATURE A CHILI, COOKOFF, A PUMPKIN PATCH, LIVE MUSIC, A FARMER'S MARKET, AND MUCH MORE.

THE EVENT IS ALSO FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN ALSO CALL 8 3 2 5 9 5 35 20.

DOES ANY, DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OR HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, I, I DO.

MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED FROM, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS, CITY STAFF, AND ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS THAT MADE THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT A GREAT SUCCESS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO WAS A PART OF THAT.

SO THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT.

IT WAS PRETTY FUN, WASN'T IT? YES, SIR.

AND ALSO, REGARDING THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WE ARE PLANNING SOME KIND OF EVENT STILL IN THE WORKS.

UM, WE'RE HOPING IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A COMBINATION OF AN ADOPTION EVENT AND A NUTCRACKER MARKET.

WE'RE HOPING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY AND, UM, HAVE LIKE A CHRISTMAS SHELTER EVENT.

SO THAT'LL BE IN EARLY DECEMBER.

MORE DETAILS ARE COMING, BUT I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH OMAR AND THE CHIEF, AND SO WE'RE PLANNING TO HOPEFULLY HAVE A NICE ADOPTION EVENT IN TIME FOR THE HOLIDAYS SO EVERYBODY CAN, CAN COME, COME GET THEIR FREE PET THAT IS MICROCHIPPED.

FOR CHRISTMAS.

SOMETIMES PETS ARE GOOD CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, UH, THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN GENERAL? NO.

UH, WE HAVE THREE FOR CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS.

[ CONSENT AGENDA ]

UH, WERE THEY ALL FOR THE SAME ITEM? ITEM EIGHT.

UH, SO, 'CAUSE HECTOR, WE NEED TO BRING DOWN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

WELL, LET ME MAKE A MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM H TO WHAT? TO, UH, UH, TO APPROVE.

WELL, LET'S APPROVE THE CONSIDERED AGENDA ITEM.

WELL, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT A THROUGH G.

AND THEN YEAH, WE, WE, WE KNOW WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING HIM DOWN.

DOWN H DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DO Y'ALL WANNA GO STRAIGHT TO HECTOR'S MOTION? WELL, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, HECTOR.

SO .

YEAH, GO STRAIGHT TO HECTOR.

GO.

HECTOR'S MOTION.

GO AHEAD, HECTOR.

I DID, I ALREADY MADE A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, SO.

AND SECONDED BY STEVE TO, TO APPROVE THE NO SENATE AGENDA.

WHAT'S THE MOTION? YEAH, YEAH, IT'S, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM EXCEPT FOR ITEM H.

SO NOW WE WILL GO TO, TO TWO A, I GUESS.

ALRIGHT, WELL LET ME VOTE FOR THAT.

IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

VOTE NO.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT ONE PASSES.

[H. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2025-32, an Ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, by repealing Chapter 16, Article IV. “Itinerant Vendors, Solicitors and Peddlers” and adopting a new Chapter 16, Article IV. entitled “Itinerant Vendors, Solicitors and Peddlers”; providing a penalty in an amount of not more than $500.00 for each violation of any provision hereof; repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances inconsistent or in conflict herewith; providing for severability; and providing an effective date. (Brandon Morris, City Attorney) ]

AND WE HAVE H WE NEED TO DO H WELL, HH WILL BECOMES TWO A.

AND WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS FOR THIS.

SO IN YOUR BINDER, UH, WHAT, THAT'S THE, UH, IT'S H IN YOUR BINDER, THE DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITING.

THAT'S

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IT.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

GO AHEAD AND CALL 'EM IN THE ORDER.

THEY SIGNED UP IF YOU'D LIKE.

UH, ROBBIE CONLEY IS FIRST, AND WHENEVER YOU COME, YOU'LL MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON.

PRESS THE BUTTON AND THEN SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

ROBBIE CONLEY ADDRESS IS 24 11 HICKORY WAY HERE IN ROSENBERG, IN BAYOU PARK SUBDIVISION.

I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO TAKE THE MOST STRINGENT METH MEASURES THAT WE CAN TO GUARD AGAINST THE DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITING.

AGAIN.

THIS WEEK WHILE I WAS OUT OF TOWN, THERE WERE THREE SOLICITORS THAT CAME TO OUR HOUSE, A REAL ESTATE AGENT AND TWO TREE TRIMMING SERVICES THAT ONE OF 'EM CAUGHT MY HUSBAND AT HOME.

AND BECAUSE HE IS A PASTOR, HE WAS VERY NICE TO THE GENTLEMAN AND TALKED TO HIM FOR A BIT.

AND THE GUY KEPT GOING ON AND ON ABOUT HOW OUR TREES NEEDED TRIMMING AND WOULDN'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE FRESHLY BEEN TRIMMED, THESE PEOPLE ARE TEND TO BE DANGEROUS.

THEY TEND TO BECOME BELLIGERENT WHEN YOU TELL THEM NO.

I REALIZE FROM WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID LAST TIME, WE CAN'T COMPLETELY OUTLAW IT, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT AS TOUGH AS POSSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION IS ALLOW DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITATION FOR 30 MINUTES ON THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, OR MAKE THE, THE FEE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PERMIT HIGH.

IT WAS SAID THAT IT COULD BE BASED ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO HAVE AN OFFICER DEDICATED TO THAT, TO, UH, THAT THEY COULD CHARGE MORE FOR THE LICENSURE TO, UH, DO THE SOLICITING.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE SERIOUSLY TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE COULD CHARGE AND MAKE IT COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THESE PEOPLE.

SOMEBODY IS GONNA GET HURT.

EITHER THE SOLICITOR OR A RESIDENT IS GOING TO GET HURT, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

SO I URGE YOU ALL TO MAKE IT AS STRINGENT AS POSSIBLE AND AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO SOLICIT.

QUICK, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

WOULD YOU, UH, ARE YOU, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO ZERO TOLERANCE? THAT IS IF, IF A POLICEMAN INTERACTS WITH SOMEBODY AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, UH, TO GIVE THEM A CITATION? NO WARNINGS, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT WE, THAT THAT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE KIND OF LEANED TOWARD IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS HERE IN THE CHAMBER, IS THAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO ALLOWING SOLICITORS.

I THINK WHEN THE, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY STATED THAT THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS MM-HMM .

THEY WERE ONLY RELATED TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RELIGIOUS OR MAYBE POLITICAL KIND OF THINGS, BUT PRIVATE BUSINESSES.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL WAS TO DENY THEM THE RIGHT TO SOLICIT.

SO IT, CAN YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? IT WAS JUST WHATEVER'S PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WHICH IS LIKE MAYBE POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS SPEECH.

RELIGIOU.

THAT'S IT.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID LAST TIME, THE POLITICAL AND THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO NEVER COME TO OUR DOOR.

WELL, YOU'RE BLESSED, .

I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN SEE GIRL SCOUTS, WHICH I'D REALLY LIKE SOME COOKIES.

BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE NOT COMING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING PEST CONTROL PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP NOT IN UNIFORM, AND THEY'RE JUST SCRAGGLY AND THEY'RE SAYING, OH, WELL WE ARE DOING ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LET US IN AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A FREE ESTIMATE.

I'M NOT SEEING A LOT OF LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE, I'M SEEING PEOPLE THAT WE'VE ASKED NOT TO AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

THE REAL ESTATE AGENT I SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME IS ADDED AGAIN.

WELL, I THINK THAT THAT, THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY DO IS PROBABLY TO PENALIZE THAT, MAKE IT AGAINST OUR CITY ORDINANCE AND PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO IMPOSE PUNISHMENT ON THOSE PEOPLE.

I, I THINK ALL OF US AGREE THAT WE DON'T LIKE THAT.

I THINK NO, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT I SEEN WHEN I READ ALL THE RED LINES, I THINK WE'RE GOING AFTER THE COMPANIES TOO.

NOT JUST THE PERSON OUT THERE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, BUT ALSO THE, THE, THE COMPANY THAT'S SENDING THESES.

OH, I DEFINITELY THINK IT SHOULD BE THE COMPANY TOO.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO HIT, UH, DO IT FIRST AND HIT THE COMPANY FIRST.

NOT THE, THE TEENAGERS TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK, BUT THIS MILLION MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANY.

I THINK AS A COUNCIL WE MOSTLY AGREE THAT WE WANNA RESTRICT AND REGULATE THAT ACTIVITY.

THEY'RE JUST DOING WHAT THEY WERE TOLD.

EXACTLY.

WELL, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE SECURITY PART ON THAT TOO.

THEY COULD JUST RUN RIGHT INTO YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S SCARY AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE OLDER PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRUSTING, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T TRUST 'EM WHEN REALISTICALLY THE BEST PRACTICE IS TO NOT EVER OPEN THE DOOR.

UM, BUT

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WELL LET, AND DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR MS. CONLEY? NO.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT TWO AND THEN WE WILL TELL, THEN WE WILL ALL TELL WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT DO.

IVES RARELY COMES HERE, DOCTOR.

OH, I'M SORRY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TELL THEM IN ADVANCE.

THAT WE ARE, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ON BOARD WITH ALL THIS.

YEAH, WE'RE ON BOARD.

WE'RE ON BOARD.

THE ATTORNEYS WENT TO THIS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN DO IT.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'M DAN IVES, 2,500 PECAN DRIVE ROSENBERG COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE OVERALL PROPOSED SOLICITATIONS ORDINANCE COM AMENDMENT ITEM ONE H, WHICH IS NOW TWO A, AND COMMEND LEGAL COUNSEL AND CITY ADMINISTRATION FOR SUCH DETAIL.

BUT IT DOESN'T COVER THE WATERFRONT WITHOUT SPECIFYING IN SOME WAY THAT VIOLATIONS ARE ABSOLUTE LIKE RUNNING A STOP SIGN, NO WARNINGS.

I WOULD EMPHASIZE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE EFFECTIVE IF A CITATIONS ARE ISSUED FOR VIOLATIONS WITH NO TOLERANCE.

AND THIS NEEDS TO BE SPELLED OUT CLEAR CLEARLY, OR WE WILL BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.

A BUSINESS NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES FOLLOWING THE LAW, AND CAN DO SO BY GETTING A SOLICITATIONS PERMIT.

A MINIMUM FINE SHOULD BE ALSO INCLUDED.

THE STATED RATIONALE FOR THIS ORDINANCE IS SPECIFIC AND RIGHT ON TARGET, BUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WORDING NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED TO MAKE IT ACTUALLY WORK.

THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS ORDINANCE IS AT STAKE.

WE NEED SUCH ASSURANCE, SUCH ACTION WILL BE APPLAUDED BY THE RESIDENTS OF ROSENBERG AND ESPECIALLY BY OUR ELDERLY AND A HANDICAPPED CITIZENS.

I KNOW TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS WILL.

ONE CONFINED TO A WHEELCHAIR AND ANOTHER HAS WITH A SPECIAL ED, UH, NEEDS KID.

ONCE CITATIONS ARE ISSUED AND DOOR TO DOOR PEDDLERS ARE FINE BY A MUNICIPAL JUDGE WITH A MINIMUM FINE SPECIFIED, THE WORD WILL SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE AND THE SOLICITATION PROBLEMS WILL BE MINIMIZED AND WILL SOON GO AWAY.

WE HAVE A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LET'S GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY.

THE ABSO THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO GET IT DONE ON BEHALF OF NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER ROSENBERG.

WE ASK COUNSEL TO GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU DR.

OZ.

NEXT IS CAROLYN SEILER.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CAROLYN SEILER.

I LIVE AT 26 25 CEDAR LANE AND I LIVE IN THE SAME AREA THAT THESE OTHER TWO DO.

AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WE NEED AN ORDINANCE.

I MEAN, YOU GOT TO HAVE REPERCUSSIONS IN PLACE.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO, DON'T DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY WILL COME BACK.

I'VE HAD THE SAME ONES RE COME BACK REPEATEDLY.

UM, SAME WAY WITH THE TREE SERVICES.

I GOT THE CARDS ON MY DOOR BECAUSE I DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR.

UH, I HAVE TALKED TO 'EM THROUGH MY DOORBELL, MY RING, AND I'VE TOLD THEM, LOOK, DON'T YOU SEE THE NO SOLICITING? OH, I'LL BE BAD.

BUT THEY COME BACK LATER ON THINKING I WASN'T AT HOME AND THEY'LL COME BACK AND TALK TO ME AGAIN.

BUT YES, STIFF PENALTIES NEED TO BE IN PLACE TO GET THESE GUYS TO STOP.

UM, WE HAD A HAILSTORM HERE.

I WAS IN CITY COUNCIL FOR A MEETING, THIS WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND WITHIN A WEEK I HAD NO LESS THAN A DOZEN COMPANIES, NOT FROM ROSENBERG PARA LAND ALL OVER THE PLACE COMING, WANTING TO DO MY ROOF.

UH, IT'S GOTTA STOP.

AND SO I ASK THAT Y'ALL PASS AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT STOP AND THEN MORE THAN THAT.

BRANDON IS NOT HERE, BUT UH, HIS BOSS GRADY IS, AND GRADY, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE SUMMARY OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO READ IT? I'LL BE GLAD TO.

THANK YOU CAROLYN.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, SIR.

THAT WAS IT.

ALRIGHT, LET ME READ THE ITEM AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE DISCUSSION.

CONSIDERATION OF AN A ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 32.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS BY REPEALING CHAPTER 16.

ARTICLE FOUR IN TURN, UH, VENDORS, SOLICITORS AND PEDDLERS ADOPTING A NEW CHAPTER 16, ARTICLE FOUR ENTITLED IN TERANT, I'M SORRY, VENDORS, UH, SOLICITORS AND PEDDLERS PROVIDING A PENALTY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500 FOR EACH VIOLATION OF ANY PROVISION.

HEREOF, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES INCONSISTENT OR IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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AT THE AUGUST 26TH, 2025 MEETING CITY, CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING COUNCIL REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED THE CITY'S CURRENT REGULATIONS RELATED TO ITINERANT VENDORS, SOLICITORS AND PEDDLERS.

CITY COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO REVISE OUR REGULATIONS BASED ON CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, INCLUDING BURGLARY AND FRAUD.

ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 32 HAS BEEN PREPARED IN RESPONSE TO THAT DIRECTION, THE REVISED ORDINANCE ALLOWS ENFORCEMENT AGAINST NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS PHYSICALLY ENGAGED IN DOOR-TO-DOOR SALES, BUT ALSO THE COMPANIES AND CORPORATIONS WHO SEND THE INDIVIDUALS OUT AS AGENTS ON THEIR BEHALF.

THE ORDINANCE ALSO PROVIDES FOR A MORE THOROUGH PERMITTING PROCESS AND ADDITIONAL HOLIDAYS ON WHICH DOOR TO DOOR SALES ARE NOT ALLOWED.

RECORD KEEPING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPANIES WHO USE AGENTS FOR SOLICITATION AND PROHIBITS REGISTRATION.

FOR APPLICANTS WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF CERTAIN CRIMINAL OFFENSES, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 32 AS PRESENTED.

DOES AS PRESENTED, DOES IT OR CAN IT, CAN WE PUT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE IT, UH, DIRECTION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DIRECT TO HIS STAFF? ZERO TOLERANCE, NO WARNINGS.

YES, THAT CAN BE ADDED.

IT'S NOT IN THERE NOW.

WE WERE ASKED THAT QUESTION THIS MORNING.

OKAY, WE'LL AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND PUT THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ASK THE COUNSEL TO SEE IF THE COUNSEL IS OKAY WITH THAT.

LET'S START WITH GEORGE.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH ADDING THAT, GEORGE? UH, I THINK IT'S GONE FAR ENOUGH, MAYOR, SO YOU'RE NOT OKAY WITH ADDING IT.

UH, RICHARD, I'M OKAY WITH ADDING IT.

UH, JESSICA, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY OKAY WITH IT.

JESSICA, ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? IS THIS A CRIMINAL ORDINANCE? YES.

IS IT ANALOGOUS TO CRIMINAL TRESPASS CLASS C BUT THE CRIMINAL TRESPASS IS HIGHER SOMETIMES CLASS B, IT'S UNDER THE CHAPTER 54 POLICE POWERS IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

IT'S PART PENAL CODE TOO.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, BUT UH, YOU CAN'T FOR STATE LAWS, DIRECT TICK OR TICKETS OVER WARNINGS.

BUT YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE WERE SURPRISED YOU CAN FOR LOCAL ORDINANCES SAID NO WARNINGS, JUST TICKETS.

SO WE NOT REQUIRED LIKE ON A CRIMINAL TRESPASS TO SAY, DON'T COME HERE, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME.

AND THEN LATER MAKE THE, THE ARREST OR SOMETHING LIKE, WELL IN THIS CASE THIS IS A NON-RES OFFENSE.

SO IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A CRIMINAL TRESPASS WARNING THEN IT'S NOT A PENAL CODE.

CRIMINAL TRESPASS.

ARE WE OKAY WITH DOING STRICT LIABILITY ON THESE OFFENSES? LIKE WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY? MY PHILOSOPHY IS PUSH UNTIL SOMEONE SAYS STOP LIKE A GOOD DEFENSE ATTORNEY.

IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT'S ON YOU THEN, UH, UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS WE CAN'T PLOW FORWARD.

SO THEN ALSO, WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH VICARIOUS LIABILITY? ARE WE, ARE WE ABLE TO PROSECUTE AN ENTITY OR AN OWNER BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF THE EMPLOYEE OR CONTRACT WORKER? YES.

EVEN ON CRIMINAL STUFF.

WELL, IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR, $500 FINE MAXIMUM.

AND THEN DOES, THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

SO ARE YOU FOR AGAINST THE SUGGESTED CHANGE OF IF THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT'S ALL LEGAL, I'M FOR IT.

AND HE DID SAY IT'S ALL LEGAL, SO I'M FOR IT UNTIL THE COURT TELLS ME DIFFERENT FOR NOW.

I DID SAY THAT TODAY.

UH, HECTOR OR YOU FOR LET'S SEE WHAT THE REST OF COUNCIL IS GONNA ALRIGHT, STEVE, ARE YOU? I'M FOR IT.

OKAY, FELIX.

I'M FOR IT.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL PUT IT IN.

YOU GOT AT LEAST FOUR IN FOUR FAVOR OF THAT.

I'M FOR IT TOO.

THEN WHY COULDN'T YOU BE FOR IT WITH IT? WELL, I WANNA SEE WHAT EVERYBODY WAS THINKING.

WE WANT MAKE, WE, WE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

WELL, I WANNA SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS.

MAYOR, YOU DO THAT TOO.

THE OTHER QUESTION WAS A MINIMUM FINE.

NO, BY THE WAY, NO, I DON'T DO THAT.

I WANT TO KNOW.

I MEAN, , I DON'T, I WANT TO, WE WANT KNOW WHEN, YOU KNOW, IN WE'RE INDIVIDUALS HERE.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY ASKED ABOUT A MINIMUM FINE, BUT YOU STATED AS A CLASS C, OF COURSE THE MAXIMUM IS 500.

SO DO WE NEED TO SET A MINIMUM OR WE CAN JUST SET THE MAXIMUM AS USUAL? WELL, YOU CAN SET THE

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MAXIMUM.

I WAS JUST, UH, REFERRING TO WHAT THE SPEAKER SAID THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET THE PERMIT FEES ON THE NEXT ITEM.

BUT, OKAY.

I DID WANNA ASK DR.

IVES A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA DO THAT NOW OR, OR LATER.

HANG ON.

HANG, GIVE, GIVE IT JUST, BUT HOLD THAT THOUGHT EVERYBODY.

DID Y'ALL NOTE ON WHAT YOUR CHANGES ARE ON YOUR, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ON IT? DID YOU, I GUESS YOU, WELL THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD FOR DR.

IVES ACTUALLY.

OKAY, WELL LET ME, LET ME ASK DR.

IVES, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAD THIS WAY WHILE I ASK GRADY A QUESTION ON PAGE 1316 DASH 74, AN OFFENSE UNDER THIS ARTICLE IS PUNISHABLE BY A FINE, NOT MORE THAN $500.

DO WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO RAISE THAT? NO.

THAT ANSWERS THAT.

NOT IN THIS SITUATION.

POLLUTION ZONING.

WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE ZONING.

CERTAIN OTHERS.

BUT HERE IT'S, SO DR.

I, UM, PREVIOUSLY WHEN YOU SPOKE, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WANTED THE ORDINANCE TO BE MODIFIED.

ARE YOU STATING THAT, THAT YOU JUST WANTED THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TO BE MODIFIED? ARE YOU ASKING FOR US TO MODIFY THE, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE? THE EXISTING, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED, I'M SORRY.

SO ARE YOU APPROVING THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING NOW? I I THINK IT'S GOT A TREMENDOUS BASE.

THE, THE ISSUE WAS, WAS NO TOLERANCE AND A MINIMUM.

FINE.

AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST THE MINIMUM FINE BE? BECAUSE WHAT, RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'RE AT A CONSENSUS THAT THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE 500.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A HUNDRED AND A HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO, TWO HUNDRED AND GRADY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO SET A MINIMUM ON A C? YES.

SO I WOULD PROMO, PROPOSE AND LET, I WANNA RUN THIS BY Y'ALL TO A HUNDRED, TWO 50, NO, 500.

MY, MY SUGGESTION IS 500.

IF YOU'RE GONNA STOP YOU, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO, YOU HAVE TO BE SERIOUS.

SO, BUT I WANT A NUMBER 4 99 FOR 4 99.

BUT WHO ARE WE REALLY FINDING? BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD FEEL BAD IF WE WERE FINDING THE, THE PERSON, TEENAGER, THE THE KID OR THE PERSON WHO'S JUST WORKING VERSUS IF WE'RE FINDING THE CORPORATION.

AND THAT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA FIND A 16-YEAR-OLD.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, IS IS IT PROSECUTOR? YES.

IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE PROSECUTOR, UH, WHEN THERE'S ONLY A MAXIMUM.

SO IF IT'S COCA-COLA OR NOT TO NAME NAMES, BUT LIKE, LET'S JUST SAY A BIG CORPORATION.

BIG CORPORATION, AND $500 IS NOT EVEN A SLAP ON THEIR WRIST FOR THEM.

WELL, IF YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO, UH, PROSECUTE A 16-YEAR-OLD, THEN THEY'RE JUST GONNA HIRE A BUNCH OF 16 YEAR OLDS.

NO, BUT WHAT I THINK WHAT GRADY WAS SAYING IS THAT WE WOULD BE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWED TO TRY TO FIND THE CORPORATION, FIND THE KID, AND YOU FIND THE COMPANY THAT HIRED LIKE JOINT AND SEVERAL LIABILITY.

AND SO WHAT, WHAT, IDEALLY YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING AFTER THE KID.

YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE DEEPER POCKETS.

AND SO IF THAT'S THE IDEA, IF THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW, I DON'T MIND EVEN PUTTING A THOUSAND, I DON'T THINK WE COULD, BUT I WOULD EVEN PUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS FINE ON IT.

BUT I WOULD BUT YOU SAID THE MAX 500.

THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.

SO I'M SAYING I WOULDN'T MIND MAXING OUT THE FINE IF WE'RE GOING AFTER THE DEEP POCKETS, BUT I DO FEEL BAD GOING AFTER JUST THE, THE PERSON WHO'S JUST WORKING IN FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES.

THEY'RE GETTING TOO COMFORTABLE OUT THERE.

THEY GOT THOSE TWO WHEELS AND THEY RIDE FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE TO HOUSE, AND THEY GOT A CLIPBOARD.

IF THEY'VE BEEN TO THIS HOUSE AND THEY MISSED THIS ONE, BLAH.

I'M GOING BACK TO SEE THIS ONE.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMOUNTS, GEORGE.

YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THE, THE ACTUAL, IT, IT MIGHT BE JUST THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEE OR SOMETHING.

I DO KIND OF FEEL BAD THAT MAYBE THEY'RE JUST WORKING THEIR JOB, BUT IN, IN TERMS OF THE COMPANY THAT'S HIRING TO DO THAT, I DON'T FEEL BAD IF THEY'RE CHARGED WITH KNOWING WHAT THE LAW IS.

WELL, THE PROSECUTOR CAN INQUIRE.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

SO I I I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION IS VERY FACT SPECIFIC.

LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, RICHARD, WHAT DO YOU YES, DO YOU WANT TO RAISE IT? I I WANT DO MAXIMUM ON EVERYTHING.

GEORGE, YOU WANNA DO MAXIMUM ON EVERYTHING OR LET THE PROSECUTOR DECIDE UP TO AN AMOUNT UP TO 500 IS WHAT IT IS.

I'LL STICK WITH OLSON.

WITH WHAT? WE'LL KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.

WE'RE WE'RE NOT KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS.

WE HAVE TO.

WE ARE, WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING AN AMOUNT 500.

YEAH, LET'S MOVE IT TO A THOUSAND.

SO YOU WANT THE MAXIMUM.

ALRIGHT, JESSICA, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT UP TO PROSECUTOR DISCRETION BASED ON THE FACTS.

ALRIGHT, UH, HECTOR, I AGREE WITH JESSICA.

UM, FELIX, YOU WANT 500 AS THE MAXIMUM? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL,

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WE'LL KEEP IT AT 500.

500 IS THE MAX.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MINIMUM.

YEAH, WE, WE'LL JUST DO THE MAXIMUM.

ALRIGHT, SO GRADY, YOU HEARD THE PREFERENCE? YES, I DID.

CLEAR AS MUD.

REALLY? YES, IT IS ABOUT AS CLEAR AS MUD.

BUT ANYWAY, I THINK FOUR OF US WANT TO MAXIMIZE THAT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY, ON PAGE 14, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYBODY'S SUGGESTIONS.

CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL, CIVIC, PATRIOTIC, PHILANTHROPIC, POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS PURPOSE.

ABOUT A THIRD DOWN, YOU SEE, UH, WHERE IT SAYS, NUMBER ONE, THE PERSON SOLICITING WAS NON-COMMERCIAL PURPOSE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

SO I THINK WE JUST WANT TO LEAVE IN RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL AND SCOUTS IS THAT, UM, YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE, MAYOR.

SORRY.

YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE.

MAYOR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE.

25 DASH.

WAIT, I'M NOT INTER, INTER ENTERING.

WE'RE NOT DOING A MOTION YET.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS.

THEY ALREADY WENT TO IT.

JUST A SECOND.

THE MAYOR, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY ALREADY LOOKED AT ALL THIS.

YEAH, 10 HOURS ON IT.

JUST A SECOND.

SECOND.

WE PAID 'EM HOURS.

IF YOU DIDN'T REACH YOUR AGENDA BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, I READ MY AGENDA.

WELL, I DID TOO.

SO I, THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING, I THINK THERE'S A SECOND.

NO, THAT'S OUT OF ORDER.

SO MY QUESTION IS THE PERSON, SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO SCRATCH OUT AND NOT HAVE A DEFENSE IN CHARITABLE SOLICITATION OR EDUCATIONAL SOLICITATION, CIVIC, PATRIOTIC, OR PHILANTHROPIC.

BECAUSE THOSE GROUPS ALSO SOLICIT AND THEY WILL SAY, WELL, WE'RE HERE TO RAISE MONEY.

WE'RE HAVING A, UH, SOMETHING OVER AT, AT TRAVIS PARK.

BUT WE'RE DON'T, WE'RE SOLICITING MONEY TO HAVE, UH, TO GET KIDS OFF OF DRUGS.

AND MAYBE THEY ARE OR MAYBE THEY AREN'T.

BUT I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS AS WELL.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT MIGHT BE UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT IF IT'S YEAH, IT IS IT WELL EQUAL PROTECTION.

UHHUH .

WELL, IF IT'S A RELIGIOUS OR RELIGIOUS POLITICAL GROUP YEAH.

AND POLITIC.

BUT WE HAVE PATRIOTIC, PHILANTHROPIC, CIVIC, ANYTHING COULD BE CALLED CIVIC AND EDUCATIONAL AND CHARITABLE.

SO THESE ARE DEFENSES, UH, TO THE ORDINANCE.

SO BASICALLY THEY COULD STILL BE CHARGED, BUT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVE THAT THEY FIT THE DEFINITION, THEN THEY MAY BE RELIEVED OF THAT.

WELL, MY COULD PUT IT IN A MOVIE VERNACULAR.

THEY WOULD TAKE THE RIDE, BUT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO BEAT THE RAP.

BUT THEY ALSO MAY BE ABLE TO CONVOLUTE WITH A POLICE OFFICER WHEN IT, WHEN THE TIME COMES, IF YOU LEAVE THESE LOOPHOLES LIKE THIS AND SAY, OH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM ARRESTING ANYBODY.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY'RE READ THE REPORTS, THEY'RE ARREST ANYBODY FOR THIS.

THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GONNA SIDE 'EM.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT'S JUST A TICKET.

CHARITABLE, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE.

CHARITABLE, EDUCATIONAL, CIVIC, PATRIOTIC AND PHILANTHROPIC, UM, WAS PUT IN THERE BY BRANDON.

FOR WHAT REASON? FIRST AMENDMENT.

FIRST AMENDMENT FIRST.

UH, WHERE IS HE GETTING HIS INTERPRETATION? THAT CIVIC AND EDUCATIONAL AND CHARITABLE HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO DOOR TO DOOR SOLICIT.

WE BASE THIS ON THE CITY OF DALLAS ORDINANCE.

AFTER WE CHECKED TO SEE WHICH ORDINANCES HAD BEEN CHALLENGED AND UHHUH SURVIVED AND WON.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT, ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD.

SO IT'S BEEN TESTED AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN AND THERE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR IT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OFFERING TREE TRIMMING SERVICES WOULD NOT LIKELY MEET THIS STANDARD.

TREE TRIM TRIMMING IS NOT NO, BECAUSE THAT'S A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE.

RIGHT? THE VERY FIRST PHRASE OF THE SENTENCE.

SO HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE, GRADY? I DID YOUR HOMEWORK ON THIS GRADY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BEAT THIS HORSE.

DID YOUR HOMEWORK.

SO IF A, OKAY, THANK YOU.

LET'S GO AHEAD.

IF A TREE TRIMMING SERVICE COMES UP AND SAYS HE MADE A MOTION AND I'VE HAD THIS, CAN Y'ALL HOLD IT DOWN WHILE I ASK THE ATTORNEY A QUESTION? PLEASE.

I ALSO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO, SO IF THEY SAY WE'RE A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE TRIMMING TREES FOR OUR AIR, UH, ORG FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.

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AND BY THE WAY, I'VE HAD THAT, I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO MY DOOR, WE'RE DOING THESE SERVICES AND IT'S GONNA GO TO WHATEVER.

SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE DO THEN? WHY YOU? THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE COURTS.

IT'S FACT SPECIFIC.

WELL, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE POLICE ARE GOING TO READ INTO THIS.

IT'S GONNA BE A LOOPHOLE, AND THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE NEED.

WELL THEN YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND SAY, WE WANT ZERO TOLERANCE TICKET THEM BRING 'EM, HAUL 'EM INTO COURT.

THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEY ARE, I'M SMILING BECAUSE IN MY HOMETOWN CEMETERY, THERE'S A, UH, STATUTE TO THE WOODMAN OF THE WORLD.

I NEVER KNOW WHO THAT WAS, BUT I ASSUME IT'S A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH WOOD.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND PROVE THAT THEY'RE PART OF THAT.

UH, I THINK LEAVING THESE IN IN HERE IS A MISTAKE AND IT'S, IT'S TOO BIG OF A LOOPHOLE.

WELL, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, WHICH IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO VIOLATE PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS IN A STATUTE, WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSION? WELL, THE STATUTE GETS THROWN OUT.

IS THERE ANY CIVIL RIGHTS ONCE YOU GET IN A LAWSUIT, CIVIL RIGHTS AND YOU GO TO TML AND THEN YOU HAVE A BIG OLD FEDERAL LAWSUIT OVER IT.

AND THAT COULD COST THE CITY MONEY.

VERSUS IF YOU TICKET PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM COME TO COURT, THE CITY PROBABLY MAKES MONEY.

I MEAN, IN FAIRNESS, THAT'S NOT MY GOAL.

BUT IN REALITY, THE DEAL IS TO MORE VIGOROUSLY REGULATE ITINERANT VENDORS.

BUT IN, IN PRACTICE, WHEN PEOPLE GO TO JAIL OR GET TICKETS, IT USUALLY COSTS COURT COSTS, FINES, MONEY.

SO I DON'T, BUT THE QUESTION WAS, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT RISK.

UH, RISK TO THE CITY LIABILITY.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH LIABILITY IN PROTECTING PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN TRYING TO STEP ON THOSE A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, YES.

I'M THINKING OF THE KID THAT'S SELLING BAND CANDY.

THAT'S EDUCATIONAL.

YOU'RE GONNA TICKET THE BAND CANDY KID.

IS IT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT? WELL, IT'S PROTECTED BY THIS LOCAL ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S IN THERE UNDER EDUCATIONAL.

WHAT IF A KID GOES TO CHURCH AND IS SELLING CANDY FOR THE CHURCH? FOR THE PRIVATE SCHOOL? FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL? WELL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GET INTO IS THAT EDUCATIONAL OR NOT? OR CHARITABLE.

AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW JUST AT FIRST GLANCE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE JURIES.

THAT'S WHAT THE COURT'S FOR.

I CAN'T, SO I MEAN, I CAN MAKE A 145 PAGE ORDINANCE THAT TRIES TO TAKE IN EVERY LITTLE INSTANCE THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PAINT A BASIS HERE TO ALLOW EFFICIENT ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS.

WELL, AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION, POLICE ALSO HAVE DISCRETION.

SO IF A POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP AND SEES SOMEBODY SELLING TREE TRIMMING SERVICE THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE, THE POLICE CAN SAY, NO, YOU'RE GETTING A TICKET.

VERSUS IF THE POLICE COME UP AND IT'S A GROUP OF CHURCH PEOPLE, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES OR SOMETHING PREACHING, THEY CAN IN THEIR DISCRETION SAY, I DON'T KNOW, THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VIOLATION.

WE'VE HAD TO DEFEND CITIES WHERE THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES HAVE SUED.

THEY WILL ENFORCE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CITIES WHO GET SUED? THEY SETTLE FOR MONEY OR THEY DISMISS.

THAT'S NOT BEING CONSERVATIVE THEN.

WELL, THEY UNDERSTAND IN THIS CITY, IF THEY'RE GONNA KNOCK ON DOORS AND HAND OUT TRACKS, THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.

IT MAY BE ANNOYING TO CITIZENS, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE BALANCING.

AND I DON'T MEAN TO GET ON MY SOAPBOX, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE BALANCING TESTS BETWEEN FREE SPEECH.

AND I JUST WANNA BE LEFT ALONE TO WATCH MY PROGRAM ON TV AND NOT BE INTERRUPTED.

I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES.

I ASKED THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES, DO YOU HAVE IT IN ENGLISH? THEY DON'T.

THEY'LL ONLY HAVE IT IN SPANISH.

SO WE'RE TALKING THE LITERATURE THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE ME.

IF YOU GO TO PAGE 16 IN THIS ITEM AND DIS UH, ITEM C THE SECOND I GUESS PARAGRAPH ON, ON THE TOP IT SAYS CERTIFICATE OF REGISTRATION EXPIRES 90 DAYS.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE COMING UP WITH THE FEES FOR THAT.

DALLAS HAD THEIRS AS A YEAR.

WE CUT IT DOWN TO 90 DAYS.

I, I THAT'S GOOD.

AND WHAT IS THE AMOUNT? AND I WOULD SUGGEST $300

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FOR A 90 DAY PERMIT.

THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.

THAT WOULD BE AN PROBABLY AN ILLEGAL TAX.

MM-HMM THE COURTS HAVE RULED THAT YOUR PERMIT FEE HAS TO APPROXIMATELY COVER THE COST OF THAT FEE.

AND THAT ENFORCEMENT, IT CAN'T BE JUST PURELY PENAL BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER THAT A TAX.

SO WHAT, HOW, WHATEVER YOU SET IT AT, YOU'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PROOF THAT THIS IS WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO DO THIS.

WELL, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE SPIRIT OF THIS LAW IS TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES FROM MARKETING TO RESIDENTS OR CRIMINALS COMING TO YOUR HOUSE.

I THINK.

AND I DON'T THINK NEED, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN 300.

I DON'T THINK WE, WHAT ARE WE CHARGING NOW? 50.

LEAVE IT AT 50.

WELL, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTENDING TO REGULATE PROTECTED SPEECH.

I THINK WE'RE JUST INTENDING TO REGULATE BUSINESSES.

AM AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? CORRECT.

SO IN YOUR ESTIMATE, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE SHOULD CHARGE FOR THAT WE COULD CHARGE FOR A PERMIT? I HAVE NO IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE.

YOU GOT A BASIC ON BASE IT ON PROOF.

GIMME THE FACTS.

SO WE'LL DETERMINE THAT COST FOR ENFORCEMENT DALLAS IS 50, A HUNDRED PROBABLY IS DEFENSIBLE PRETTY EASY.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COST FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? YEAH.

A HUNDRED.

FOR HOW MANY DAYS? WELL, I MEAN MORE THAN DALLAS IS 50 FOR A YEAR, BUT THE COST IS THE CLERK THAT TAKES THE PERMIT FEE, THE PROCESSING OF THAT, THE OFFICER THAT ENFORCED IT, THE JUDICIAL TIME, ON AND ON AND ON.

AND YOU CAN BUILD THAT CASE, YOU CAN SET IT HIGHER.

AND IF YOU'RE CHALLENGED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEFEND IT.

SO EITHER BUILD IT NOW OR BUILD IT LATER AND DEFEND IT WHILE YOU'RE IN, YOU KNOW.

WELL IN DALLAS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ROSENBERG.

RIGHT? SO THEY GOT A, A BIG DI WOULD SAY IT'S A LOT.

I I MEAN I'M NO EXPERT, BUT I WOULD THINK SO.

SO IF THEY'RE CHARGING 50, DO YOU THINK THAT REALISTICALLY WE COULD CHARGE MORE? I DO.

YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE, THEIR HEAD COUNT IS HIGHER.

SO THEY GOT MORE, UH, MORE, MORE VOLUME.

AND YOU'RE SMALLER.

SO YOU'RE YOUR SO WE JOB RATE IS, YOUR HOURLY RATE HERE IS HIGHER.

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY BRING THOSE NUMBERS SO WE COULD 75.

WELL WE COULD BRING THOSE NUMBERS AND CALCULATE THAT.

WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND WHATEVER THE, THE AMOUNT IS, UH, MY PREFERENCE IS AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE.

IF WE'RE GONNA GET SERIOUS, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

MARY, WE CAN'T EVEN GET 'EM OUT TO GO GET A PERMIT.

AND YOU WANNA CHARGE MORE.

LET'S TRY IT AT 50.

YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET OUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE IF CHARGE 50 GIVING AWAY PERMITS.

WE'RE NOT EVEN GIVING PERMITS RIGHT NOW, MAYOR.

SO WHAT'S WHAT? YOU CAN CHARGE A THOUSAND.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN GIVINGS.

YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION.

I'M GIVING YOU MY OPINION BECAUSE, BUT BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN NO, WE'RE NOT.

NO, NO.

THE PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN GOING OUT THERE TO GET A PERMIT.

WE GOVERN BY GROUP DECISIONS.

SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR OPINION.

I HAVE MINE.

WELL, I'M TELLING YOU, WE DON'T EVEN, WE CAN'T EVEN GET 'EM OUT THERE TO GO GET A PERMIT.

AND YOU WANT TO I WANT MAKE IT AS AS POSSIBLE.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN, THEY DON'T EVEN GO OUT FOR 50.

YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT FOR A HUNDRED? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

SO IF YOU START AT 50 AND YOU START SEEING A BIG OLD, IF DR.

I SAYS, HEY, I HAD 50, UH, PEOPLE WITH PERMITS AT MY HOUSE AND WE START LOOKING AT THAT COST, THAT'S WHAT I THINK RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, STARTED AT 50 AND WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING THEM TO GO OUT THERE TO GET $50.

GEORGE, WHAT DOES IT COST TO FOR THAT? IS IT A HUNDRED OR? WE'LL HAVE TO MAN, FOR THE MANPOWER AND EVERYTHING.

WE'LL HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT.

'CAUSE HE SAID THAT INCLUDES THE ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING.

SO YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D HAVE TO TELL US.

YEAH, WE, WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

AND WE WERE GONNA BRING THE FEEDBACK, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL I HAD.

NOW WE'LL GO THROUGH, WE'LL START WITH FELIX.

FELIX, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD OR CHANGE TO THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? UH, NO SIR.

I'M FINE.

STEVE, I HAVE ANYTHING.

HECTOR? NO, I'M READY.

I'M READY.

MADE A MOTION.

UH, JESSICA, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

RICHARD.

GEORGE? YES SIR.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD OR CHANGE? NO.

NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN HECTOR'S MOTION.

CAN YOU RESTATE IT PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 32 WITH THE SUGGESTED CHANGES.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE.

I'M NOT PUTTING ANY SUGGESTED CHANGES.

IT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN.

OH, IT IS, IT IS.

MINE'S NOT GREEN.

IT'S, I HAVEN'T SAID IT YET.

AT ONE POINT IT WAS ZERO TOLERANCE.

DO YOU STILL WANT A SECOND? DO YOU STILL WANT A SECOND THIS MOTION OR DO YOU WANT MY CHANGES? WAIT, WHAT WERE YOUR CHANGES? WHAT WERE THE CHANGES? I DON'T, WE, THERE WAS SO MUCH GOING BACK AND FORTH.

WELL, I'D STOPPED PAYING A

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ZERO TOLERANCE WAS ONE OF 'EM FINE.

MAXIMUM.

I, I WANT TO TAKE MY SECOND BACK.

SO LIKE, BASICALLY WHEN WE SAY IT'S LIKE STRICT LIABILITY AND A $500 FINE MAXIMUM, BUT NO MINIMUM.

DID WE SET A MINIMUM? WE AGREED THERE WOULD BE, UH, THE MINIMUM IS THE MAXIMUM.

OH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, NO, I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN MY MOTION.

SO THE MOTION IS AS PROPOSED.

AS PROPOSED.

'CAUSE Y'ALL DID Y'ALL HOMEWORK.

WE PAID YOU GUYS TO DO ALL THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR DEALING WITH THIS, SO, OKAY.

SECONDED BY JESSICA.

SO IF YOU WANT THE CHANGES THAT WE'D, WE'VE AGREED UPON, YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE HECTOR'S MOTION DOWN.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A NEW MOTION.

VOTE FOR OR AGAINST IT.

SO, SO THE CURRENT MOTION IS AS IS PROPOSED, THE ONLY CHANGES TO FORWARD HIS MOTION.

I SAID NO.

HECTOR DIDN'T HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, SO.

BUT THE STIPULATIONS THAT, THAT I THINK THAT WE DISCUSSED WERE THAT WE WOULD SET A MINIMUM FINE OF 500 AND THAT IT WOULD BE STRICT LIABILITY.

AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING? THAT WAS IT.

TO THE REGULAR AGENDA NOW.

SO, GEORGE, ARE YOU IN FAVOR? ARE YOU, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF HECTOR'S MOTION? CAN YOU VOTE ON THIS? NO.

GEORGE, CAN YOU VOTE? YEAH, GOTTA VOTE.

COUNSELORS PAID IT.

CAN YOU PLEASE VOTE? IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE SAY PASSED.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY, SO THE MOTION PASSED AS PRESENTED.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3965, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, approving the purchase of body cameras, dash cameras, cloud storage, and tasers from Axon Enterprise, Inc., for a period of sixty (60) months, in an amount not to exceed $365,188.99 per year, the Axon Master Services and Purchasing Agreement for Quote Q-683832-45917JS, and Statement of Work for the Implementation of Axon Interview Room for Rosenberg Police Dept. - TX, exempting these items from the competitive bidding/proposal requirements, pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 252.022 (a)(7), "a procurement of items that are available from only one source", authorizing the City Manager to execute appropriate documents and/or agreements regarding the same. (Jonathan White, Police Chief) ]

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

WELL, THE, THE REGULAR, REGULAR AGENDA.

ALRIGHT, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION R DASH 39 65.

A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF BODY CAMERAS, DASH CAMERAS, CLOUD STORAGE AND TASERS FROM EX EXXON AXON ENTERPRISE, INCORPORATED FOR A PERIOD OF 60 MONTHS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 365,000 $188 99 CENTS PER YEAR.

THE AXON MASTER SERVICES AND PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR QUOTE Q DASH 6 8 3 8 3 2 DASH 4 5 9 1 7 JS IN STATEMENT OF WORK FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AXON.

INTERVIEW ROOM FOR ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT, TX EXEMPTING THESE ITEMS FROM THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROPOSAL REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 52 0.0 22 A SEVEN, A PROCUREMENT OF ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM ONLY ONE SOURCE AUTHORIZED IN CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS AND FOR AGREEMENTS REGARDING THE SAME.

CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

RESOLUTION NUMBER R 39 65 AUTHORIZES THE PURCHASE OF BODY CAMERAS, DASH CAMERAS, CLOUD STORAGE AND TASERS FROM AXON ENTERPRISES.

THE PURCHASE EXCEEDS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEREFORE MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL PER CITY PROCUREMENT POLICY.

THE AXON MASTER SERVICES AND PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR QUOTE Q 68 3 8 JS AND STATEMENT OF WORK FOR ROSENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO RESOLUTION NUMBER R 3 9 65.

THE QUOTE, DETAILS AND COSTS BREAKDOWN OF HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, AND SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF 60 MONTHS.

DECEMBER 25 THROUGH DECEMBER OF 29 EACH YEAR, TOTALING $365,188 AND 99 CENTS.

THE FIRST PAYMENT IS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26.

ADOPTED BUDGET.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER R 3 9 6 5 APPROVING THE PURCHASE THROUGH AXON ENTERPRISE, INCORPORATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $365,188 AND 99 CENTS PER YEAR.

THE AGREEMENT FOR Q 6 8 3 8 32 DASH 4 5 9 7 JS AND STATEMENT OF WORK EXEMPTING THESE ITEMS FROM THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROPOSAL REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 52 0.022, SECTION A SEVEN A PROCUREMENT OF ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM ONLY ONE SOURCE.

AND I DO HAVE ASSISTANT CHIEF NEERY HERE THAT WORKED, UH, VERY HARD ON THIS QUOTE ALONG WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AXON.

UH, IN THE EVENT YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PURCHASE.

ALL ALRIGHT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH, RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? NO, I, I TALKED TO THE CHIEF ABOUT IT AND I, UM, I WAS, I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH IT.

I, I, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THEIR CAMERA

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SYSTEMS AND AT ONE POINT I WAS, I INSTALLED ALL THE CAMERAS AND ALL THE, EVERY ONE OF THE VEHICLES, BUT, AND SO I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH IT AND I WAS, UH, I'M KIND OF, I'M OKAY WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BODY CAMERAS IS, YEAH, WELL, WELL NOT I DIDN'T INSTALL THOSE.

YOU DIDN'T INSTALL THOSE, BUT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.

YEP.

AND GEORGE, YOU WANNA SPEND I THINK THAT, UH, 365,000, THE OTHER THINGS ARE COUNSEL, UH, OUT THERE.

I THINK THAT, UH, YES.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY NECESSARY.

NO, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT ONE.

UH, JESSICA, THEY CAN BE USEFUL TO DISPROVE A CASE AS WELL.

NOW I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IS THIS GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WITH EVIDENCE.COM? BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY INEFFICIENT FOR US TO ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT THESE ON A DISC.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THIS WILL DO FOR US.

WE WILL MOVE AWAY FROM THAT PROCESS.

I, I'M, I'M FOR IT THEN BECAUSE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF PICKING UP DISCS.

LIKE PAYING FOR THIS.

WE'RE WE'RE TIRED OF BURNING THEM.

PAYING FOR DISCS.

BURNING DISCS, PICKING UP DISCS.

IT'S A PAIN.

SO THE AGENCIES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH EVIDENCE.COM, IT MAKES EVERYBODY'S, IT SAVES TAX DOLLARS REALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN EXPENSE, IT ACTUALLY SAVES MONEY.

SO I IT'S GONNA SAVE A LOT OF PERSONNEL TIME.

IT DOES, YEAH.

I APPROVE HECTOR.

SO MY QUESTION, UM, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REPLACED EVERY FIVE YEARS, OR, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING.

ARE WE GETTING THE BEST, THE BEST NOW OR ARE YOU WANNA COME UP ABSOLUTELY.

GETTING THE BEST OF THE BEST? YEAH.

YOU WANNA COME JOHN? SHE IS OUR UH, OUR REP THAT COULD GO INTO THOSE GRANULAR DETAILS.

UM, WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE? I JUST WANNA KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, WITH TECHNOLOGY CHANGING EVERY DAY, ARE WE GETTING THE BEST OF THE BEST AND NOT PAYING FOR OUR LOW END? AND IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WE GOTTA BUY ANOTHER STEP BECAUSE, OH, WE GOT SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S BETTER OUT THERE.

ARE WE GETTING THE BEST TOP OF THE LINE? YOU GUYS ARE ABSOLUTELY GETTING THE TOP OF THE LINE IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

UM, BOTH CHIEFS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF, UH, SETTING YOU GUYS UP FOR SUCCESS.

AND, UM, I MEAN, I SAY IT TO EVERY PD THAT I WORK WITH, BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES THE CITY WORTH LIVING IN.

WITHOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE THE LAW AND BE ABLE TO, UH, PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND WHATNOT, THAT'S WHAT BRINGS THE BUSINESSES IN.

THAT'S WHAT BRINGS THE FAMILIES IN.

THAT'S WHAT BRINGS THE TAXES IN.

SO EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE BEST EQUIPMENT IS REALLY WHAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO DRIVE.

I'M FOR IT.

AS LONG AS WE'RE GIVING THEM THE BEST I'M FOR IT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, YOUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE BUYING, IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH OUR LAPTOPS RIGHT NOW.

OF COURSE, TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, ARE OUR LAPTOPS GONNA BE OBSOLETE FOR YOUR EQUIPMENT? NO.

SO, UM, EVERYTHING WORKS THROUGH EVIDENCE.COM.

UH, AND THAT DOESN'T NECESSITATE ANY KIND OF, UM, EXPENSIVE HARDWARE OR ANYTHING.

UH, EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE CLOUD.

SO, UM, THERE'S NO NEED FOR LIKE, EXPENSIVE GAMING LAPTOPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE, UM, THOSE MORE EXPENSIVE CHIPS IN THEM.

AND I MIGHT MENTION THAT BEFORE, LIKE MANY YEARS AGO, LIKE 10 YEARS AGO OR WHENEVER BODY CAMS FIRST STARTED, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, YOU NEEDED THAT SPECIAL SOFTWARE.

AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHICH AGENCY AND WHAT EQUIPMENT THEY WERE USING, YOU NEEDED DIFFERENT SOFTWARE.

SO EVEN TO THIS DAY, I HAVE LIKE SIX LAPTOPS.

THEY HAVE LIKE DIFFERENT SOFTWARE AND DEPENDING ON WHAT AGENCY YOU GOT THE CAMERA FOOTAGE FROM, YOU NEEDED.

AND THAT ONE WITH THE LITTLE ORANGE CONE, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED.

UM, VLC.

IS THAT STUPID.

VLCI MEAN IT EVIDENCE.COM HAS CHANGED MY LIFE, SO I APPRECIATE, GLAD TO HEAR IT.

UM, IS THIS, THIS IS GONNA, THIS IS LIKE STANDARDIZED FRAUD POLICE OFFICERS, POLICE FORCES, RIGHT? YES.

I'M HERE TO HELP OUT THE PD.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY THANKFUL, CHIEF YOU PUT THIS ON THERE.

I KNOW IT WAS TIME TO GET WITH THE TIMES, SO, YEAH.

I'M FOR IT.

SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENSE BAR .

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE OR PUSH GREEN? YES.

AND THE CHIEF DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE, THE, THE ASSET FORFEITURE MONEY THAT IT'S NOT EVEN COMING OUTTA.

THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE ARE USING SOME, UH, ASSET FORFEITURE TO, TO FUND IT.

SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST.

IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY NO.

[3. Consideration of and action to approve the Rosenberg Development Corporation FY2026 Sidewalk Improvement Project List. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]

ITEM, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

LET ME READ THE ITEM HERE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION TO APPROVE RDC SIDEWALK.

UH, 2026

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OKAY, I'LL READ THE SUMMARY.

I GUESS THIS, NO, NOT THERE.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON FISCAL YEAR 2026.

ROSENBERG DEVELOPMENT, RDC UH, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT LIST.

THE RDC FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET INCLUDES $150,000 FOR NEW AND REPLACEMENT SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS AND 144,000 IN UNSPENT SIDEWALK FUNDING FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

HOW ARE YOU READING THE WRONG SECTION? WHAT AM I READING? YOU'RE READING SEXIST SUMMARY.

YOU SHOULD BE READING THE ITEM.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR PRO, I'M SORRY, WHAT AM I NOT READING? RIGHT? OKAY.

OR WHATEVER.

I THOUGHT RE READS THOSE.

I HECTOR MAYOR, WHY DON'T YOU JUST CONCERN YOURSELF WITH YOUR, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT.

WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP ME OUT.

I THINK, FRANKLY, LOOK LIKE A FOREMAN.

YOU'RE TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT.

NO, LOOK LIKE A FOOL THEN.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS WHO READS THESE.

AS LONG AS THEY GET READ INTO THE RECORD.

UH, WE, THE STAFF DOES HAVE, UM, SLIDES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT, SO.

IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK BETTER IF THE STAFF READ IT.

WELL, DO YOU MIND IF I FINISH READING WHERE I WAS? YOU CAN BUT'S GONNA PROBABLY REREAD IT SO HE CAN GO OVER HIS SLIDES.

WE'LL GO OVER THE SLIDES IN JUST A SECOND HERE.

JUST A SECOND.

THE RDC FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET INCLUDES A 150,000 FOR NEW AND REPLACEMENT SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS, 144,000 IN UNSPENT SIDEWALK FUNDING FROM PREVIOUS YEARS FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF $294,000.

AT THE OCTOBER 8TH RDC REGULAR MEETING, THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026 RDC SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST WAS APPROVED INCLUDING PARK PLACE BOULEVARD FROM SPOT.

I'M SORRY, THAT WAS EXCLUDING THAT ONE.

EXCLUDING PARK PLACE BOULEVARD FROM SPOT CHICK TO HARMONY'S COURT, WHICH DID NOT RECEIVE APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, NOW YOU HAVE A SO SLIDESHOW.

SO, UM, ATTACHED IS THE OVERVIEW, UH, LIST OF THE PROPOSED, UH, SIDEWALK LOCATIONS, UH, FROM THE RDC.

UH, THIS IS THE LIST THAT, UH, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO RDC.

THE FIRST ONE DID NOT, UH, RECEIVE, UH, APPROVAL, BUT IF COUNSEL CHOOSES TO APPROVE IT, UH, IT CAN BE DONE.

UH, THIS, YEAH, THIS LOCATION IS, UH, ON PARK PLACE, UH, FROM HARMONY IS GOING BACK TO SPOT CHECK.

UM, THIS LOCATION CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE SIDEWALK AND IT WAS LEFT OUT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WAS ACTUALLY, UH, BUILT OUT.

THE NEXT LOCATION IS FIFTH STREET BETWEEN, UH, AVENUE H AND AVENUE G.

UH, WE USE THAT AREA FOR EVENTS DOWNTOWN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SIDEWALK IS, UH, MISSING PLACES AND, UH, IT'S CRACKED UP, NEEDS TO BE, UH, REPLACED.

UH, THE NEXT LOCATION IS ON THIRD STREET BETWEEN AVENUE H AND AVENUE I, UM, THIS WILL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO REPLACE THAT SIDEWALK AND REDO THE, UH, THE CURB OR THE RAILING, THE GUTTER, AND CLEAN UP THAT AREA.

ANOTHER LOCATION IS, UH, WINDING LAKES FROM, UH, MENNONITE GOING BACK TO BRASS, UH, CENTER.

AND THIS WILL BE A LOCATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALK NEW LOCATION FOR SIDEWALK AND END UP HELPING THE PEOPLE FROM SUMMER LAKES, UH, GET TO BRASSTOWN CENTER.

AND THE LAST LOCATION IS ON COMMERCIAL DRIVE COMING FROM VISTA, GOING BACK TO PARK PLACE WHERE THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL'S AT.

UM, THAT'LL END UP, UH, UH, PROVIDING THAT PATH FROM, UH, POINT A TO POINT B.

AND YEAH, THAT AREA DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A SIDEWALK.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE LIST PROVIDED.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

THIS CAME UP IN THE RDC MEETING AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY VOTED TO TAKE OFF NUMBER ONE AND I THINK WE OUGHT ADD THAT BACK ON.

THERE WAS NO REASON.

THEY HAD NO REAL REASON FOR WHO TOOK IT OFF.

WE VOTED ON IT, BUT IT WAS KIND OF SPLIT HALF, WELL, NUMBER NUMBER ONE IS THE BY PLACE.

THIS WAS YEAGER'S DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE ONE YOU SAID BY MY HOUSE.

NUMBER ONE ON HERE ON THE LIST.

THAT'S, UH, PARK PLACE BOULEVARD FROM SPACE TO HARMONY'S COURT.

YEAH, IT WAS, WE, IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE.

THERE WAS ONLY SIX PEOPLE THERE.

UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WERE MISSING.

SO IT DIDN'T PASS BY BY SHELY, UH, BECAUSE ONE PERSON

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WAS MISSING.

SIDEWALKS ARE GOOD.

I'M, BUT I, I MEAN THERE WAS NO REASON TO TAKE IT OFF THE LIST.

SO I JUST, I, THAT, THAT AREA REALLY NEEDS A SIDEWALK.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DID THIS ROAD, I WONDER, AND IT WAS BEFORE OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE CITY MANAGER.

THIS WAS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND, UM, THE CITY AT THAT TIME SHOULD HAVE REQUIRED THAT THEY INSTALL SIDEWALKS IN THAT RIGO.

THIS IS BEFORE YOU WERE IN THE POSITION.

UM, AND THEY GOT A, UH, SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND IT DIDN'T, OF COURSE, A LOT OF THIS WAS NOT DEVELOPED AROUND HERE, BUT THIS IS WHY WE WANNA BE CLOSE, GIVE REAL CLOSE ATTENTION TO THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BECAUSE WHEN THINGS END UP GETTING DEVELOPED, UM, THEN PEOPLE WANT A SIDEWALK.

WELL, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE WOULDA, COULDA, SHOULD HAVE BEEN AGREED TO, BUT IT WASN'T.

AND THAT SPACE NEEDS A SIDEWALK.

AND THAT'S AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMES, UM, HIGH VALUE HOMES THAT PAY A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX AND ALSO A LOT OF BUSINESSES THERE.

UM, IT'S A SCHOOL RIGHT UP THE ROAD AND THERE'S A SCHOOL AND UM, I ACTUALLY JOG THAT WAY PRETTY OFTEN.

AND SO I HAVE TO JOG ON THE SIDE THAT DOES HAVE, UM, PAVEMENT, WHICH IS IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SCARY AND DANGEROUS.

AND THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE SUPER NARROW TOO.

SO A COUPLE TIMES I'VE JOGGED THEM, BUT I'VE OFTEN GOT SCARED ABOUT BEING HIT BY A CAR.

SO IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE MORE SIDEWALK.

I, I I THAT AREA, IF YOU'VE SEEN IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE.

IT REALLY NEEDS SIDEWALK RIGHT THERE.

I AGREE.

LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS NO, YOU WERE THERE RIGO THERE WAS REALLY NO REASON TO NOT PUT IT ON THE LIST.

AND THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD TOO.

WHAT'S THE, UM, THAT, IS IT A CAR BUS? THE MADDOX BIOTICS.

UHHUH BIOTICS MADDOX.

IT IS THAT RIGHT THERE.

AND, AND IT, I DON'T, THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT TO NOT HAVE SIDEWALK.

IT REALLY NEEDS IT.

AND NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN BUILDING, UM, BUSINESSES, IF YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD, UM, YOU GET TO, IS IT BRIAN? AND YOU GO LEFT, YOU CAN GET TO LIKE THE TACOS LAVAL.

AND TO SUSHI AND TO RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S BECOMING A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AREA.

IT IT DOES NEED THAT.

UH, I WOULD ASSUME IT IT QUALIFIES.

WHAT WAS THE REASON THAT THE COMMITTEE SAID NO, IT WAS A SPLIT, SPLIT DECISION? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, YOU MAYOR, THE REASON WAS WE HAD THREE, THREE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAID THAT IT WAS NOT ENOUGH COMMERCIAL FOR THEM TO CONSTITUTE, CONSTITUTE TO HAVE THESE SIDEWALKS.

UM, I THINK RICHARD AND I VOTED FOR IT, BUT WE HAD A SPLIT DECISION 'CAUSE WE WERE MISSING A MEMBER.

SO, UM, IT FAILED BECAUSE OF LACK OF YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS BASICALLY A TIE AT THE END OF THE DAY.

UM, BUT WELL, WE CAN, UH, IF ARE THE FUNDS THERE? YES SIR.

I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE APPROVE THE SIDEWALK LIST WITH THE, UH, I'LL SECOND WITH, WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS EXCLUDED.

ORIGINALLY, IF THE FUNDS, FUNDS ARE THERE, RUSS, I'LL BE PROTESTING HERE ON THE FRONT.

UM, I DON'T, YOU CAN'T REALLY GO WRONG TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE OUTTA THE STREET FROM GETTING RUN OVER.

IT'S REALLY NOT SAFE.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY WALK THEIR DOGS AS MUCH AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT APARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE ARE THREE APARTMENT COMPLEXES PLUS, UM, MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THE OTHER HOUSES IN THAT AREA.

AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET OUT A LOT.

THERE'S A LAKE THERE.

WE WALK OUR DOGS AND UH, PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET AND IT'S REALLY NOT SAFE.

WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

WE JUST HAVE TO BE, UH, CAREFUL ON THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING INTO THESE NEIGHBOR.

WELL, AGAIN, THERE WASN'T MANY NEIGHBORHOOD MUCH DEVELOPMENT THERE WHEN THEY, IN FACT, THERE WAS NO DEVELOPMENT THERE.

THAT'S WHY THEY CALLED IT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE, YOU LEARN.

ALRIGHT,

[4. Consideration of and action to approve the City of Rosenberg FY2026 Sidewalk Repair and Replacement Project List. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]

IS THERE A TIMEFRAME ON WHEN THAT WOULD START? YEAH, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GIVE THE NOTICE TO, TO PROCEED TO OUR CONTRACTOR.

THEY HAVE TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR.

ALL THAT STUFF TAKE BID.

WHICH, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE A A A CONTRACT.

WE JUST NEED TO GIVE A, GIVE HIM A NOTICE TO PROCEED.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN ACTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 CITY FUNDED SIDEWALK REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT LIST.

OKIE DOKE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM.

CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON APPROVED FISCAL YEAR SIDEWALK REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT LIST.

THIS TIME I'LL TAKE, FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING EVERYBODY UP HERE HAPPY, YOU GO AHEAD AND READ THIS SUMMARY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THAT WAY I CAN EAT MY CANDY.

[01:20:01]

THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT IS BASED ON THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ADOPTED BY, UH, COUNCIL ON JULY 1ST, 2014 BY RESOLUTION NUMBER R 1812.

THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET INCLUDES 200,000 FOR SIDEWALK REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS IMPROVEMENT TO THE FOLLOWING AREAS.

THIS, UH, THE, THE MAP THAT YOU'RE SEEING HAS, UH, THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, UH, WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, THE SIDEWALK, UH, REPLACEMENT.

UM, WHERE'S, EXCUSE ME TO INTERRUPT.

UHHUH, WHERE'S THE ONE ON, UH, TOWN CENTER? THE ONE THE THE WALLET WA LEAD OR WHATEVER? YEAH.

WHERE, WHERE'S HELP ME OUT THERE? I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE WE AT.

YEAH, IT'S, IT IS THE THERE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND.

I KNOW IT'S RIGHT HERE, BUT I'M TRYING TO PICTURE STRIP.

OH, OKAY.

GOT SO YEAH.

BY THAT STRIPES AND ALL THAT.

AND UH, THIS AS DISTRICT THREE, RIGHT? IS IT DISTRICT THREE? I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I BELIEVE SO, BUT UM, THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WE'VE HAD, UH, MULTIPLE CITIZENS WHO'VE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR YEARS.

AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF THE SIDEWALK THAT'S JUST BEEN UNLEVELED, UH, AROUND ALL THE MANHOLES IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING ENDED UP SETTLING.

I THINK IT WAS JUST FROM LACK OF COMPACTION.

I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW.

THAT SECTION MAY BE IT'S DISTRICT, IT'S DISTRICT ONE.

TOWN CENTER HAS LIKE, YEAH, FOUR, UH, THREE DISTRICTS.

YES, IT DOES.

THIS SECTION OF IT, I BELIEVE IS IN DISTRICT ONE.

SO IT IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE YEARS.

RIGHT DOUG? THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS, THE SAME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING AND THAT'S FAIR.

UM, DO THEY NOT, DOES THEIR MUD NOT COVER ANY OF THIS? NO, SIR.

IF IT'S A, IF IT'S INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S RIGHT.

UH, I MEAN THEY'RE MUD.

BUT IF IT'S IN, IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE PROVIDE THE MAINTENANCE TO THE STREETS AND SIDEWALK.

WELL, THEY'RE 30 5-YEAR-OLD MINIMUM, UH, SIDEWALKS.

AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, YOU YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE THAT, UH, THE SIDEWALKS ARE JUST ON EVEN.

SO YOU'LL BE DOING, THE ONES THAT ARE GOOD GRIEF ARE NOT LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.

THEY, THEY'LL KEEP YOU DOING EVERYTHING.

IF WE CAN FIND SOMETHING TO TIE INTO WHERE IT'S A GOOD GRADE, WE'LL END UP KEEPING.

BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE RIGHT A DA GRADE.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND ON THAT.

AND IT'S, AND AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WE MIGHT END UP HAVING, WE MIGHT END UP HAVING TO, UH, LOWER SOME OF THOSE MANHOLES DOWN, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE RIGHT WHO AID.

SO IT'S CHIEF.

ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO ADD OR TAKE OFF ANY, ANY OF THESE SIDEWALKS HERE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

HECTOR, I'M ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO WISH IF THEY ADD, CAN YOU REFRAIN FOR MAKING MOTION? THERE'S A SECOND THAT WE GO THROUGH OUR LINE HERE.

THAT'S OUR PROCESS.

GEORGE PROCESS TO, TO MAKE A MOTION.

YES SIR.

DO YOU WISH TO CHANGE THIS LIST? WISH TO ADD OR ANYTHING? WELL, RICO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THEY WANT TO TIE INTO, TO THE SIDEWALK FROM THE CUSTOMER'S LINE? WHAT, I KNOW Y'ALL DONE QUITE A FEW OF 'EM AROUND TOWN, BUT Y'ALL, Y'ALL CHARGE 'EM SEPARATELY? NO.

UH, WE, WE TRY TO STAY IN, IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

JUST, WE TRY TO JUST WORK ON THE SIDEWALK AND WE TIE, TIE INTO THE EXISTING, UH, DRIVEWAY WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DRIVEWAY.

THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE A SEPARATE SIDEWALK GOING TO THE FRONT DOOR, WE TRY TO LET THAT BE UNLESS THERE'S A, A BAD, UH, GRADE CHANGE AND THEN WE END UP CUTTING BACK AND TRY TO BLEND IT IN.

SO THEY'RE, SO WE TRY TO KEEP A DA THROUGH THERE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOAL.

WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYTHING A DA FRIENDLY.

ANYTHING ELSE COULD YOU MAKE, COULD YOU MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT TO THE, TO THE CUSTOMER? TO THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER? DO WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER? YEAH.

AGAIN, WE JUST TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING A DA IF, IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA REPLACE IT.

IF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED, WE'RE NOT REPLACING IT JUST TO REPLACE IT.

TO STREET IMPROVEMENT LIST CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION TO APPROVE THE CITY OF ROSENBERG FISCAL YEAR 2026 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST.

RICHARD, JESSICA? NO.

I THINK WE SHOULD REPLACE ANY, UM, SIDEWALK THAT'S BROKEN UP LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT A DA COMPLIANT.

WELL IT'S DANGEROUS TO PEOPLE IN, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEELCHAIRS, IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS FOR PARENTS WHO ARE PUSHING STROLLERS.

IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS TO THE ELDERLY.

A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE FALL AND BREAK BONES AS A RESULT OF THIS TYPE OF THING.

SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, MY UNCLE ACTUALLY, HE DOESN'T LIVE IN ROSENBERG, BUT HE FELL AND BROKE A LOT OF BONES BECAUSE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO YEAH, IT'S A TRIP HAZARD IF IT IS.

SO I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO IMPROVE ANY SIDEWALK THAT IS HAZARDOUS.

HECTOR? NO.

STEVE? NO.

[01:25:01]

FELIX? NO SIR.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UH, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.

ALRIGHT, SO HECTOR MADE A MOTION OUT OF ORDER AND JESSICA SECONDED IT OUT OF ORDER.

ALL THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR NOW VOTE IN ORDER.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION PASSED.

IT'S THE BEST COMPLIMENT.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GOING

[5. Consideration of and action to approve the City of Rosenberg FY2026 Street Improvement Project List. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]

RIGO.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PRESENTED, UH, FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST.

A TOTAL OF 11 ASPHALT STREET SECTIONS, ONE ASPHALT PARKING LOT AND SEVEN CONCRETE STREET SECTIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS HAVING IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR MAINTENANCE.

A DETAILED LIST OF STREETS AND LOCATION MAPS ARE INC ARE INCLUDED FOR REVIEW DUE TO THE ONGOING BACKLOG AT FORT BEND COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE WORK SCHEDULE.

THE COST TESTAMENTS FOR THE ASPHALT STREET SECTIONS IS BASED ON FORT BEND COUNTY CONTRACT PRICING FOR ASPHALT WITH CONTRACT SERVICES UTILIZING LABOR AND EQUIPMENT.

THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS FOUR IS 400 AND $455,737 AND 1 CENTS.

STAFF HAS ALSO PREPARED AN ALTERNATE ESTIMATE UTILIZING CONTRACT LABOR EQUIPMENT AND MATERIAL TO COMPLETE THE ASPHALT OVERLAY WORK IN AN ESTIMATED COST OF 600, UH, $30,774 AND 26 CENTS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED LIST THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, USING CONTRACT PRICING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW MAP THAT, THAT SHOWS THOSE STREETS.

AND BEFORE I GUESS MOVE OVER TO THE CONCRETE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ALL MIGHT HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR SIDE? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WELL, I, WHY, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER.

THEY'RE BACKLOG, BUT FORT BEND COUNTY, YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT ON ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND THAT'S UP TO COUNSEL.

IF, IF WE, WE CAN PUT IN THE REQUEST TO FORT BEND COUNTY.

I THINK WE END UP HAVING A ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT'LL COME BACK AND THEN THE, OUR GO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THEN WE'LL END UP BEING PUT ON THE ROTATION.

HOW LONG IS IT LEAD TIME FROM FORT BEND COUNTY? THEY COULDN'T TELL US.

THEY COULDN'T TELL YOU.

THEY COULDN'T TELL US.

SO DID YOU, DID YOU ASK THEM ABOUT THIS? WELL BE, BEFORE WE END UP, IT HAS TO GO TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR APPROVAL AND WHERE IT'S GONNA END UP BEING PUT AT.

BUT I MEAN, HAVE YOU SPOKE TO THOSE FOLKS LATELY AND ASKED 'EM WHAT THEIR BACKUP TIME IS? I HAVE, WE, WE DID ASK TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP US OUT WITH UH, UH, WITH THE PARKING LOT OVER THERE AT ANIMAL CONTROL AND THEY WERE ALREADY BACKED UP 'CAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON SOME OTHER, OTHER PROJECTS.

IS THE PARKING LOT ON THIS LIST FOR ANIMAL CONTROL? YEAH.

WE ENDED UP GETTING A SEPARATE COST FROM SEALY PAVING AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET SEALY PAVING TO DO THAT.

TO DO IT SO WE CAN, SO WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT.

BUT NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT ON THEM.

ON ON THE COUNTY.

ON THE COUNTY.

WE WANNA OPEN UP THAT ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO HAD WE KNOWN THAT AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT SOONER THEN, BUT THAT LAST MEETING WE WERE COMPLAINING THAT IT WAS TAKING TOO LONG.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S MY POINT.

AND WE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON FORT BEND COUNTY TO PAVE THE PARKING LOT AND NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT ON HIM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.

SO HE'S GONNA GO TO SEALY PAVING, RIGHT? WELL, FOR THAT ONE PARTICULAR CORRECT.

FOR FOR, FOR THAT PARKING LOT.

FOR THAT PARKING.

JUST SO WE CAN GET THAT GOING.

YEP.

BUT BUT OTHER THAN THE ANIMAL SHELTER, UM, DO YOU THINK IT WELL YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW LONG OF A WAIT IT MIGHT BE IF WE GO THROUGH THE COUNTY IN, IN PAST YEARS, UH, IT WOULD TAKE THE COUNTY, THE, THE COUNTY WOULD BREAK IT UP AND THEY WOULD DO OUR LIST AND IT WOULD TAKE 'EM ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE OUR LIST.

IT'S WOW.

SO, AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE THE THING.

THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL END UP PAVING WHAT ABOUT A MILE, MILE AND A HALF PER YEAR REGARD.

HOW LONG DOES IT NEED GET PIECEMEAL? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? IF IT'S UNDER CONTRACT YEAH, WITHIN THE, THAT MONTH WE'LL KNOCK IT OUT IN A MONTH.

SO YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

WELL, TIMEWISE IT'S FASTER.

UH, BUT COMMISSIONER MCCOY HAS ASSURED, ASSURED ME THAT WE WOULD, UM, BUT IF YOU HADN'T CONTACTED, HE ASSURED ME THAT WE, THAT, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP.

WELL, MAYBE PERHAPS WE SHOULD MAKE A, I I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER MCCOY.

GET A TIMEFRAME.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FROM COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

DO Y'ALL WANNA HEAR THE REST OF THE ITEM? 'CAUSE THERE IS ALSO SOME CONCRETE STREETS, WHICH WOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

THE ASPHALT PORTION, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR IT WITH A LITTLE MORE COMMUNICATION.

YES, I DO.

SO YOU JUST WANNA TABLE A PORTION OF IT, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN HEAR THE REST.

I ONLY WANNA TABLE THE PORTION WHEREIN

[01:30:01]

WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY, THEY SUPPLY THE LABOR AND THE MACHINERY AND THE CITY PROVIDES THE ASPHALT.

IT'S NOT TOTALLY FREE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SAVINGS.

IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A BIG SAVINGS.

I'M GONNA TABLE THE PORTION, UM, 5 MILLION OF THE PART THAT CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED BY THE COUNTY.

YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S ABOUT A 30% SAVINGS.

YEAH, I DO WANNA TABLE THAT.

AND DO I NEED TO PICK A DATE? NO.

ONCE YOU TABLE GOES TO THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA.

IT, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION BACK ALSO.

WELL FOR NOW I'LL JUST TABLE IT.

SO IF YOU WANNA DO PROPOSE, THEN YOU CAN SET, UH, UH, A DATE.

IF YOU PROPOSE YOU SET A DATE, IF YOU TABLE IT GOES TO THE NEXT, UH, MEETING COUNSEL.

I'M GONNA TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SO HOPEFULLY RIO CAN HAVE AN ANSWER BY THE NEXT MEETING.

SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU LONG TO GET AN ANSWER.

YEAH, I'LL, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE ROAD COMMISSIONER, CALL 'EM AND ASK THEM MM-HMM .

AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

UM, SO THE, THE NEXT SEGMENT IS UM, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, UH, FOR CITY COUNCIL TO VIEW IS THE STREET SECTION.

THE CONCRETE STREET SECTIONS ARE INCLUDED AT ESTIMATED $369,260.

AND THESE COST ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON OUR CURRENT CONCRETE, UH, REPLACEMENT CONTRACT WITH THE A HI IMPROVEMENT LLC PURSUANT TO CONTRACT NUMBER 24 DASH 0 33 DASH ZERO ONE.

AND DO Y'ALL, WHERE ARE THOSE, DO Y'ALL WANT TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION? THE MOTION JUST SHOULD VOTE ON THAT MOTION TABLE JUST TO TABLE THAT PORTION.

WELL, WE WANTED TO HEAR THE RE WE'RE HITTING THE PAUSE ON THAT TO HEAR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THE MOTION AND VOTE ON THAT.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GONNA DO TWO MOTIONS AT THE END OF THE WHOLE ITEM? UH, NO.

YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON HER TABLE THIS ONE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE TO APPROVE THE OTHER LIST.

YOU'RE GONNA GET EVERYBODY CONFUSED.

YEAH, I THINK, YEAH.

SO I THINK JUST TO, TO TABLE THIS PART THAT CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED BY THE COUNTY AND THEN HEAR THE REST OF IT VOTE.

LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

SO IT'S READY FOR Y'ALL TO VOTE ON TABLING THAT FIRST PORTION.

SO SHE MADE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ASPHALT PORTION.

DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT? CORRECT? YES.

JUST TO SEE IF THE COUNTY WILL PAY.

HERE WE GO.

HOPEFULLY.

WELL OF WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS, THEY'LL PUT THEY'LL, THEY WILL DO IT.

BUT IF WE CAN DO IT IN OUR, IN OUR TIMEFRAME.

ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE CONCRETE PORTION OF YOUR PRESENTATION.

C, CORRECT.

AND, UH, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH CONCRETE.

AND, UM, THE STAFF WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THESE PLACES AND, AND TOOK OUT S SEVERAL PLACES WHERE WE HAVE REAL BAD SECTIONS OF, UH, A PAVING AND JUST BREAKING IT UP INTO SMALLER SECTIONS, MANAGEABLE, UH, SECTIONS THAT WE CAN TIE INTO GOOD CONCRETE BY TAKING OUT SOME OF THE BAD CONCRETE.

SO, UH, THE FIRST LOCATION IS ON IS ON, UH, CLAIRE.

CLEAR? YEAH, FRANCIS.

UH, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN FRANCIS, FRANCIS HAS ALL KINDS OF, UH, BAD SECTIONS THROUGH THERE.

SO THIS IS BREAKING IT UP INTO, UH, UH, THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS ON, ON FRANCIS.

AND A TIMBERLAND ALSO HAS, UH, THREE DIFFERENT SPOTS.

AND THIS WILL END UP BEING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, THIS YEAR TO ACTUALLY, UH, SPEND SOME MONEY AND REPAIR SOME OF THE CON CONCRETE ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN THAT, THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME HELP OUT THERE.

WHAT ROAD DOES THIS? TIMBER LANE, THAT PORTION IS CONCRETE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGO, I, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I I ASKED YOU ABOUT A, A CUL-DE-SAC.

IT WAS CONCRETE AND IT WAS IN CAMBRIDGE VILLAGE AND I THINK IT WAS PARKWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE THAT, THAT CONCRETE UP.

IS IT, IS IT FIXED? YES, SIR.

LEAST AS WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING A HEADWAY ON, ON TRYING TO FIX SOME OF OUR CONCRETE ROADS, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS JUST CONCENTRATE ON ALL ASPHALT ROADS.

WELL I'LL TELL YOU, ONE OF THE WORST STREETS IN TOWN, AND IT REALLY IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO US, BUT WE DIDN'T, NONE OF US WERE HERE WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T PUT ANY DRAINAGE.

YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR LIST AND THAT IS CLAIRE.

I MEAN, IT IS CRACKED OUT AND WE CAN DO THIS AND YOU PUT NEW AND NEW IMPROVED REBAR AND MASH OR WHATEVER, BUT WITHOUT DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THIS LAST ALREADY 50 YEARS.

SO IF THEY GET ANOTHER 58 YEARS OUT OF THE NEW PARK, SO, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AT LEAST, UH, DOING SOMETHING ON THAT ROADWAY NEXT YEAR, WE CAN TACKLE ON A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO AT

[01:35:01]

WELL, QUESTION FOR YOU.

SHOULD, SHOULD CLAIRE BE ASPHALTED, JUST GO OVER THAT CRACKED CONCRETE THAT'LL COME WORSE.

YEAH, BECAUSE ALL THOSE CRACK, I MEAN IT'S GOT NO DRAINAGE.

ALL THOSE SAME CRACKS WILL END UP, UH, RISING TO THE SURFACE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S, WELL, CLAIRE'S BRITTLE, OH, I MEAN, IT IS CRACKED UP.

UH, LINDSEY IS BAD, BUT IF YOU GO DOWN CLAIRE, MAN, YOU, I MEAN THIS LOOKS LIKE, AND THIS IS AN, AN IMPROVEMENT IN NEXT YEAR WE'LL END UP TACKLING A LITTLE BIT, ANOTHER SECTION.

AND, ALRIGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THIS EVERY DAY, SO IF YOU THINK IT WILL, UM, I KNOW IT'LL BE AN IMPROVEMENT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING.

WELL I THINK THAT SEC, THE SEGMENT THAT WE'LL DO WILL END UP HOLDING UP.

IT'LL END UP BEING THE AREAS AROUND IT.

AND THEN WE'LL END UP, JUST KEEP ON GOING OUT AND KEEP ON TACKLING ME IT LITTLE BY LITTLE.

ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS LIST AND LET, DOES ANYBODY HAS ANY, ANY ELSE, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR TAKE OFF THIS LIST? I'M TRYING TO SECOND IT, BUT MY BUTTON'S NOT WORKING.

THERE IT IS.

IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT, VOTE YES.

IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, VOTE RED.

THE AYES HAVE IT.

GEORGE, YOU GONNA VOTE? COUNCILOR ED, CAN YOU VOTE? YOU GONNA VOTE GEORGE ON THESE ROADS? YEAH.

GO AHEAD AND VOTE AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDERATION, EXCUSE ME, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 28 IN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS BY AMENDING CHAPTER 28.

OKIE DOKE.

ALRIGHT, WAS THAT IT? WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT ITEM?

[6. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2025-28, an Ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, by amending Chapter 28, Article III, Division 2, Section 28-116 entitled, "Prohibited at any time", by designating a "No Parking" zone on Fountains Drive from I-69 to the entrance to Seabourne Creek Regional Sports Complex; providing for the installation of "No Parking" signs indicating the boundaries of the No Parking Zones; providing a penalty in an amount of not less than $1.00 nor more than $200.00 for each violation of any provision hereof; repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances inconsistent or in conflict herewith; providing for severability; and providing an effective date. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]

ARTICLE THREE, DIVISION TWO, SECTION 28 DASH ONE 16 ENTITLED, PROHIBITED AT ANY TIME BY DESIGNATING A NO PARKING ZONE FOR THE FOUNTAINS FROM THE FREEWAY I 69 TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE PARK, SEABORNE CREEK REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX, PROVIDING FOR THE INSTALLATION OF NO PARKING SIGNS, INDICATING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE NO PARKING ZONES PROVIDING A PENALTY IN AN AMOUNT, NO LESS THAN A DOLLAR, AND NO MORE THAN $200 FOR, UH, E EACH VIOLATION OF ANY PROVISION.

HEREOF, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES, INCONSISTENT OR IN CON CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RIGO, THIS ITEM WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED, UH, AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE IT WAS TABLED TO ALLOW STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOTIFY THE CAR DEALERSHIP OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE.

2025 DASH 28.

ON OCTOBER 9TH, 2025, STAFF NOTIFIED THE CAR DEALERSHIP WITH A PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NO PARKING ZONE.

UPON NOTIFICATION, REPRESENTATIVES FROM DEALERSHIP REQUESTED A ONE WEEK PERIOD TO DEVELOP A SOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE ONGOING SAFETY ISSUES RELATED TO THE ON STREET PARKING STAFF FOLLOWED UP AFTER THE REQUEST PERIOD, HOWEVER, NO CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE DEALERSHIP.

PARKING HABITS AND VEHICLES CONTINUE TO PARK ALONG THE STREET, CREATING A VISIBILITY AND SAFETY CONCERNS.

PROPOSED TO ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 28 WOULD ESTABLISH NO PARKING ZONE ALONG A PORTION OF FOUNDS DRIVE FROM I 69 TO THE ENTRANCE OF SEABORNE CREEK REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX.

THE PARKING PROHIBITION IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS YOGO AND PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE CAUSED BY ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF THE CAR DEALERSHIP IN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH OBSCURES THE FIELD DIVISION FOR VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING THE PARKING LOTS.

BY ESTABLISHING THE PARKING RESTRICTION IN THIS AREA, ROSENBERG ROSENBERG POLICE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO CITIZENS', UH, VISIBILITY CONCERNS AND ENFORCE A NO PARKING ZONE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 28 AS PRESENTED.

AND I DID GO OUT TO THE DEALERSHIP, SPOKE TO THE SALES MANAGER.

HE TOLD ME GIVE HIM A WEEK.

WE GAVE HIM OVER A WEEK.

AND IF YOU GO BY THERE, IT'S STILL, CARS ARE STILL PARKED UP AND DOWN.

THAT'S THE, UH, WHICH DEALERSHIP IS THAT? KIA HYUNDAI.

HYUNDAI.

AND WHOSE CARS ARE THOSE? PROBABLY THAT'S THE WORKERS.

THEY'RE WORKERS.

WELL, BUT THEY KNOW NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.

YOU TOLD THEM.

I TOLD THEM DISTRICT THREE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A PROBE.

ORDINANCE 20.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE Y'ALL ALREADY MADE A MOTION AGAIN.

IT'S CODE IN HERE.

[01:40:01]

I, IT'S FREEZING.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YEP.

NO PARKING ZONE.

VOTE YES.

GEORGE.

CAN YOU VOTE? YOU'RE OPPOSED? VOTE NO.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 39 69.

THE, THE MOTION HAS PASSED.

ALRIGHT, SO NO PARKING ZONES.

ALRIGHT,

[7. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3969, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, awarding Bid No. 2025-63B for the Purchase and Installation of Natural Gas Generators — Water Plant No. 2 & Water Plant No. 4 Project; and authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute, for and on behalf of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, appropriate documents and/or agreements regarding same. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]

A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSEBURG, TEXAS AWARDING BID NUMBER 25 DASH, NO, I'M SORRY, 2025 DASH 63 B FOR THE PURCHASE.

AN INSTALLATION OF NATURAL GAS GENERATORS IN WATER PLANT TWO AND WATER PLANT FOUR PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE FOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, ROSENBERG, TEXAS.

APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS AND OR AGREEMENTS REGARDING THE SAME RIGO.

ALRIGHT, UM, BID FOR THE PURCHASE, AN INSTALLATION OF A NATURAL GAS GENERATOR FOR WATER PLANT NUMBER TWO AND WATER PLANT NUMBER FOUR.

PROJECT WERE RECEIVED AND OPEN.

ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2025, ONE BID WAS SUBMITTED AND HAD BEEN TABULATED AS INDICATED ON THE BID SUMMARY FORM.

THE SINGLE BID SUBMITTED WAS REVIEWED BY THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR.

THIS PROJECT IS BEING FUNDED IN PART THROUGH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT UNDER THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY HAZARDOUS MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM ASSOCIATED WITH FEMA DR 44 85, TEXAS AS APPROVED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 38 0 8.

FEMA AWARDED THE CITY A GRANT OF $850,003 AND 88 CENTS TOWARDS THE PROJECT.

THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 10% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST AT AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $77,746 90 CENTS.

SHOULD CITY COUNCIL APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 39 69, A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT WILL BE INCLUDED AS AN AGENDA ITEM AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF RECOMMENDS AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO MCDONALD MUNICIPAL INDUSTRIAL DIVISION OF CF MCDONALD ELECTRIC INC.

WHICH SUBMITTED A BID AN AMOUNT OF $777,469.

IF CITY COUNCIL AWARDS BID NUMBER 20 25 63 B HAS RECOMMENDED, THE CONTRACTING PROPOSAL WILL BE INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT A TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 39 69.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 39 69 IS PRESENTED.

SO, HECTOR, I SEE YOU MADE A MOTION SET.

AND FELIX, YOU SECONDED? YES, I DID.

DO Y'ALL WANNA DO THAT? YES.

SURE.

WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, THAT IS RUDE.

THAT'S JUST PLAIN RUDE TO NOT ALLOW YOUR COLLEAGUES AN OPPORTUNITY.

WELL, THEY'RE GONNA GET TO VOTE THE VOICE.

YEAH, BUT IF YOU MADE IT, IF YOU SECOND IT ALREADY.

MAYOR, IF I RECALL YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO CUT 'EM OFF.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO, DID I SAY THAT COMING HERE WHEN I GOT VOTED THE FIRST TIME YOU SAY YOU ALWAYS BE AWARE, YOU MAKE THE MOTION FIRST AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING.

AFTER YOU GIVE FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT YOU DON'T PRECLUDE DISCUSSION BY MAKING A MOTION.

SO I'M NOT GONNA COGNIZE YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT I'M I'M SAYING THAT I'M WELL, WHEN YOU SECOND YOU, YOU SECONDED.

SECOND.

IT'S JUST A SECOND.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

HEY, YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THEY'VE MADE THE MOTION INDICATE BY SAYING, I ARE PUSHING GREEN.

I'M NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY DISCUSSION.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I HOPE IS ADJOURNED.

[8. Hold Executive Session to deliberate for economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code. ]

WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION MADE BY A HECTOR, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, JESSICA.

SECOND BY HECTOR TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR, SAY OR PUSH GREEN.

IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH OR SAY RED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

CAN YOU VOTE PLEASE, PLEASE? RICHARD GEORGE.

COUNSELOR EDDA, CAN YOU PLEASE VOTE A MOTION?

[9. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Regular Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session. ]

WE RECONVENE AND THEN OKAY.

LET ME, LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE AND, NO, NO, DON'T NEED IT.

BILL'S OKAY.

OKAY, I'LL MY MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.