* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [00:00:05]
          OKAY. 
          IF EVERYBODY READY, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SIGN UP THAT HAS NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE CAN GET YOU IN. 
          DR. 
          LARRY. 
          I, I SEE YOU SLIPPED IN. 
          DO YOU WISH TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? UH, MAY WISH TO SPEAK MA'AM, HOW ABOUT YOU? ARE YOU HERE TO WISH TO SPEAK? SIGNED UP. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I'LL CALL 
          [ Call to order:  City Hall Council Chamber  ]
THE MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW, THEN. 
          IT'S SIX 30 AND MY PHONE TURN ON MY PHONE. 
          I GOT PHONE TO TURN. 
          OH, WHAT HAPPENED? NO, IT'S FINE. 
          I DON'T WANT IT TO RING. 
          NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          DON'T TURN, Y'ALL DON'T TURN YOUR PHONES. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN YOUR PHONES OFF. 
          YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN 'EM DOWN, BUT YEAH, NO, I'M TURNING. 
          UH, IT, IT, YOU MAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD MISS THEIR EMERGENCY CALLS. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, SO PASTOR LANGI, REVEREND PASTOR LANGI, UH, IF YOU WOULD STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THEN HE'S, HE'LL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. 
          LET US PRAY. 
          GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO FOR US AND FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY. 
          LOOK UPON OUR CITY COUNCIL LEADERS AND YOUR PEOPLE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING. 
          BLESS ALL WITH A SOUND, DISCERNMENT WISDOM IN THE DECISIONS THAT WILL BE MADE AND PATIENCE WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          AND WHEN THIS MEETING IS OVER, PLEASE LEAD EVERYONE SAFELY TO THEIR DESTINATION AND GRANT US ALL A PEACEFUL AND RESTFUL NIGHT. 
          I ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 
          AMEN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU PASTOR COLLANJI. 
          THAT'S PASTOR COLLANJI FROM THE ST. 
          PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH IN ROSENBERG. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU. 
          WE WISH YOU A HAPPY UPCOMING THANKSGIVING. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [  Announcements.  ]
I HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT BEFORE I READ 'EM WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OTHER THAN IS IT A LITTLE BIT COOL IN HERE? IT FEELS COOLER THAN THE USUAL 71, BUT I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE, BUT I'M SURE PROBABLY SOMETIMES ANYWAY, ANYBODY HAVE, YEAH. 
          STEVE, ARE YOU CALLED? IS THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT? ? IT'S COLD. 
          IT IS A LITTLE COOL. 
          COULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND? YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE ANNOUNCEMENT HERE. 
          AS Y'ALL CAN GUESS, THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY CLOSURES HERE AT CITY HALL, UM, AND MOST OF THE CITY FACILITIES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WILL BE CLOSED ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH, UH, WHICH OF COURSE IS THANKSGIVING. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THE NEXT DAY FRIDAY, NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WILL RESUME MONDAY, DECEMBER 1ST, NO TRASH PICKUP ON THURSDAY, THURSDAY'S. 
          TRASH PICKUP WILL BE, UH, DEFERRED TILL THE NEXT DAY. 
          AND FRIDAY'S TRASH PICKUP PICKUP WILL BE DEFERRED TO THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHICH WILL BE SATURDAY. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU PUT YOUR TRASH TRASH OUT ON WEDNESDAY, JUST LEAVE IT AND THEY'LL GET TO IT AT SOME POINT. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT FUNNER, FUNNER HOMETOWN HOLIDAY FESTIVALS SET FOR, UH, SATURDAY DECEMBER 6TH IN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN FROM NOON TO EIGHT. 
          HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME COOL WEATHER IN HERE BY THEN FOR HOMETOWN HOLIDAY FESTIVAL AND HISTORIC DOWNTOWN ROSENBERG. 
          UH, IT'S GONNA BE LOCATED, YEAH, YOU GUESSED AT, AT 2100 AVENUE G. 
          COME OUT AND ENJOY A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES. 
          A HOLIDAY CAROUSEL, FREE PHOTOS WITH THE GRINCH SANTA AND MS. CLAUS'S PERFORMANCES A SCAVENGER HUNT AND THE OFFICIAL TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY WILL BE AT SIX O'CLOCK. 
          ALRIGHT, SHOPPING AND MORE FOR QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CALL 8 3 2 5 9 5 35 20. 
          SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN. 
          HOPEFULLY WE WILL EVERYBODY BE ABLE 
          [00:05:01]
TO MAKE THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS? ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE, UH, UH, CONSENT 
          [ CONSENT AGENDA  ]
AGENDA. 
          AND IT IS RATHER LENGTHY, SO I'M GONNA ASK THE COUNCIL IF THERE'S ANYTHING HERE. 
          PLEASE DON'T BE SHY. 
          EVERYBODY IS AT LIBERTY. 
          WE CAN PULL ANYTHING Y'ALL DOWN THAT YOU WISH, EVEN IF YOU JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. 
          UH, IT'S NO HARM, NO FOUL. 
          UM, AND LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND TO LOOK OVER THIS. 
          THE HOT FUND STUFF THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT'S ON THERE TO BE RATIFIED. 
          UM, THAT'S MOSTLY THAT, THEN THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR, UH, IT STUFF. 
          ANYBODY WISH TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OR Y'ALL JUST WANNA RATIFY THAT? I THINK, UH, I LOOKED OVER AT MERITS. 
          BASICALLY THEY'RE BRINGING UP THEIR TECHNOLOGY. 
          UH, THEY'RE GETTING MORE DA DATA SPACE, SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT I, I LOOKED AT IT, WELL, I WENT THROUGH IT. 
          YEAH. 
          DOES ANYBODY WISH TO DISCUSS THAT OR ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH IT? I GUESS THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW ABOUT THE, UH, CDBG, THE C THE CCC PG AD LITEM, ITEM NUMBER NN DOES ANYBODY WISH TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OR DO Y'ALL JUST WANNA PROVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA AS OKAY? WELL, I, NOW I'M AT CALLING FOR A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL MAKE HECTOR. 
          WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND? I'LL BE, IT'D BE MY PLEASURE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION BY HECTOR. 
          SECOND BY JESSICA. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUSH OR SAY YES. 
          GREEN IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY PUSH OR SAY RED. 
          NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE GREENS HAVE IT. 
          THAT MEANS YES, AROUND HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST IN TIME. 
          PAPAS ON, WE JUST GOT TO THE IRREGULAR AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, LET ME TAKE A LOOK HERE AT SOMETHING HERE. 
          MY SPEC, IT'S A CONSPIRACY. 
          THE PRINTER ON THIS STUFF IS MAKING IT SMALLER AND SMALLER ON PURPOSE. 
           WELL, I'M STRUGGLING TOO. 
          SO DON'T, THEY'RE JUST DOING IT TO AGONIZE THIS, UH, HE HECTOR, 
          [2.  Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2025-37, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, amending the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 budget by authorizing the City Manager to execute Budget Amendment 25-08, appropriating funding for fiscal year 2024-2025 year-end adjustments, in the total amount of $658,450.00. (Luis Garza, Director of Finance)  ]
CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 37. 
          AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS, ADMITTING FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025. 
          BUDGET BY AUTHORIZING WATCH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE BUDGET AMENDMENT 25 DASH OH EIGHT. 
          APPROPRIATING FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND 2025 YEAREND ADJUSTMENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF $658,450. 
          LEWIS, YOU WANT TO TELL US, GIVE US THE DATES ON THIS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, AT THE END OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT REVIEWS THE PRELIMINARY YEAR TO DATE BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS AND EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25 BUDGET. 
          MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS WERE WITHIN BUDGET, BUT THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE SLIGHTLY OVER BUDGET DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS. 
          UM, INCREASES IN OVERTIME, UNFORESEEN COSTS, EQUIPMENT REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, INFLATIONARY COSTS, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, ET CETERA. 
          DEPARTMENTAL OVERAGES ARE OFFSET BY INCREASE IN REVENUES. 
          UH, YEAR-END MEMORANDUM, UH, IS ATTACHED FOR CITY COUNCIL'S. 
          REVIEW, UH, BUDGET, A AMENDMENT 25 0 8 IS INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT EIGHT TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 37. 
          AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UH, AS PRESENTED. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THIS IS PRIMARILY A, JUST A, UM, HOUSEKEEPING ITEM ON ANY OVER BUDGET LINE ITEMS. I GOT A, UM, MAYOR, MAY I? YES, PLEASE. 
          UH, WHAT WAS THE HIGHEST ON THIS? WHAT WAS YOUR HIGHEST EXPENSE? UH, I KNOW YOU SAID 658,000, BUT WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE HIGHEST ONE? I WAS TRYING TO SEE WHICH ONE WAS WHICH ITEM? YEAH, WHICH DEPARTMENT? THAT'S WHERE I PRIMARILY IT WAS IN THE WATER WASTEWATER FUND. 
          IT WAS WHAT PAGE IS THAT? LEWIS, UH, EXHIBIT A, UH, PAGE 3 0 4. 
          PAGE 3 0 4. 
          AND THAT WAS IN THE WATER WASTEWATER FUND. 
          THREE OF FOUR. 
          HOLD ON IT, IT SAYS TWO. 
          IT SAYS THREE OF FOUR ON EXHIBIT A, BUT ON THE BOTTOM IT SAYS TWO OF THREE, RIGHT? YES, YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          TWO OF THREE. 
          YEAH, 
          [00:10:01]
I'M SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          WERE THERE ANY THAT WENT UNDER BUDGET? YES. 
          YES. 
          REALLY THESE ARE THE, PRIMARILY THE ONES THAT WENT OVER BUDGET, THE LINE ITEMS THAT MADE THE DEPARTMENT GO OVER BUDGET. 
          SO, UH, COUNCILOR VINNO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATER WASTEWATER FUND, WHICH IS AT THE END, YEAH. 
          THERE, UM, THE TRANSACTION FEES, THAT'S OUR CREDIT CARD FEES. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, IS THE DEPARTMENT, THE GL ACCOUNT NUMBER, THE DESCRIPTION, AND THEN THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHICH WAS THE TRANSECT. 
          OH, 280,000. 
          THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAD BUDGETED. 
          AND WE'RE INCREASING THAT BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT. 
          AND JUST FOR THE CITIZENS, 'CAUSE I KNOW I'LL PAY MY WATER BILL WITH A CREDIT CARD AND YOU CHARGE ME. 
          YES. 
          SO HOW DID THAT, HOW DID WE GO OVER BUDGET? IF, IF WE'RE CHARGING, IF YOU'RE CHARGING THE CITIZENS, HOW COME? SO THE ONLY CREDIT CARD CHARGE WE DO IS IF YOU PAY IN PERSON. 
          BUT IF YOU PAY ONLINE, UH, THERE ARE NO FEES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ALSO, EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A A MAY, MAY I ASK, CAN WE CHANGE THAT? IF ONLINE DOES, DOES THAT FEE GO TO A THIRD PARTY? YES. 
          SO I DON'T SEE WHERE, BECAUSE EVEN IN MY BUSINESS, WE CAN'T CHARGE THAT TO THE CLIENT 'CAUSE IT'S A THIRD PARTY THAT GETS THAT. 
          NO, I THINK YOU CAN, A LOT OF, A LOT OF BUSINESSES CHARGE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS FOR THE CITIES TO PASS THAT ON, UH, 2.99%. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S DIFFERENT RATES. 
          YEAH. 
          BASED ON THE CARD. 
          BUT WHEN YOU SAY PASS THAT ON, YOU MEAN TO THE CUSTOMER? IF YOU USE A CREDIT CARD? IF YOU USE A CREDIT CARD, YES. 
          BUT WE DO THAT ONLY. 
          BUT I THINK WITH DEBIT, I THINK WITH DEBIT IT DOESN'T CHARGE OR DOES IT CHARGE WITH DEBIT? I'M NOT, I'M THE ONLY FEES THAT WE CHARGE ARE WHEN YOU COME AND PAY IN PERSON. 
          BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THE CITY ABSORBS. 
          WHY? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A COUNCIL DECISION A FEW YEARS BACK. 
          SO IF YOU COME IN PERSON, YOU PAY THE FEES. 
          IF YOU PAY LAW, YOU DON'T. 
          AND THAT PRETTY MUCH STARTED DURING COVID WHENEVER WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE COMING IN PERSON. 
          CORRECT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          HEY, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE OVERLOOKING ONE THING. 
          'CAUSE MY BUSINESS IS, UH, I'M CHARGED WHEN PEOPLE PAY CREDIT CARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THE BUSINESS. 
          I DON'T MIND PAYING THE FEE. 
          UM, SO IF THERE, IF WE'RE, UH, ACCRUING THESE FEES, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE. 
          200 8200. 
          OH, BUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE THAN BUDGETED. 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THEN, UM, THEN THE SALES MUST BE, UH, DOING VERY WELL. 
          YES. 
          WE HAVE THE INCREASE ON THE WATER SALES, THE REVENUE TO OFFSET INCREASE. 
          WELL, BASICALLY YES. 
          THE, WELL, THE, THE, WE PAY FOR WATER BILL. 
          THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT. 
          LIKE NOW I, NOW THAT'S TRUE. 
          'CAUSE I DO PAY MINE ONLINE AND I DON'T SEE THAT TRANSACTION FEE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE PAY ONLINE AND THEY DON'T COME UP HERE, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY AN EMPLOYEE HERE. 
          LIKE I PAY MINE CASH HERE. 
          THEY SEE ME, YOU KNOW,  EVERY MONTH THEY SEE ME. 
          AND, UM, AND I, UH, I DON'T MIND IT. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND DOING THAT. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. 
          UH, SO I LIKE LEAVING IT. 
          UH, BUT IT'S UP TO Y'ALL. 
          UH, NO, I WAS JUST BRINGING IT UP SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S AWARE. 
          THAT WAY THE CITIZENS ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          I MEAN, HEY, I, I WANT TO TELL THESE FOLKS, HEY, YOU KNOW, WATER, UH, GET YOUR WATER BILL HERE. 
          PAY, PAY YOUR WATER BILL IN ROSENBERG PAY WITH THEIR CREDIT CARD. 
          WE DON'T CHARGE NO EXTRA FEE ONLINE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ONLINE. 
          ONLINE. 
          ONLINE. 
          AND IF YOU COME UP HERE, BRING CASH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S A 3% FEE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A 3% OF THE TOTAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, BUT I KNOW THESE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE TO EVERYTHING. 
          CREDIT CARD, EVERYTHING. 
          DEBIT CARD, ZELLE, THIS AND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, WHEN YOU GET SWINDLED, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK TO IF THE CASTLE'S OKAY WITH IT. 
          I'M OKAY WITH IT. 
          I WAS JUST BRINGING IT UP 'CAUSE I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          UM, BUT YEAH. 
          SO, OKAY, SO WE WENT OVER BUDGET 658,000. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALTOGETHER, CORRECT? MM-HMM . 
          OR IS THAT, UH, OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE LINE ITEMS THAT WENT OVER BUDGET. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, WE HAVE OFFSETTING REVENUES. 
          THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS. 
          YES. 
          WE HAVE OFFSETTING REVENUES. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BUT THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, HECTOR. 
          UH, I SEE THAT WE WENT OVER 50,000 ON OUR LEGAL EXPENSES ALSO. 
          SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO WATCH THAT. 
          WE NEED TO  WE NEED TO, WE KNOW WE NEED TO STOP CALLING BRANDON. 
          WE NEED, WE NEED TO CALLING BRANDON OUTTA MY STATEMENT. 
          THAT'S PRETTY WELL SPENT. 
          GO TO GO. 
          WE NEED TO GO. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT, . 
          WE NEED TO GO TO THE INTERNET MORE. 
          'CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW, INTERNET'S ALWAYS ACCURATE. 
          . 
          ANYWAY, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, BASICALLY KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          MAYOR, THEY'RE CLEANING, THEY'RE CLEANING THE BOOKS. 
          YES. 
          [00:15:01]
ALRIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY SAYS. 
          CLEAN THE BOOKS. 
          DOES THIS REQUIRE ANY ACTION? YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION BY JESSICA. 
          SECOND BY HECTOR. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. 
          PRESS GREEN. 
          YES. 
          OR SAY RED? NO. 
          OR PRESS OR SAY GREEN. 
          YES. 
          WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I GOT A BLANK SCREEN, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          I SAID I'LL SAY GREEN. 
          YES, YOU WERE. 
          YOU HIT YES, I SHOWED YOU. 
          OKAY, MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THIS NEXT ITEM, ITEM THREE. 
          SO ONCE WE READ THE ITEM AND THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, UH, WE CAN THE SPEAKER GREAT. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          REVIEW AND DISCUSS. 
          UH, 
          [3.  Review and discuss a progress report on the Comprehensive Plan Update Project, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)  ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROGRESS REPORT ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UPDATE PROJECT, AND TAKE ACTION AS TO DIRECT NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF. 
          MOHAMMED. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA TO PROVIDE THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, WITH A PROGRESS REPORT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE PROJECT THAT COMMENCED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. 
          THE CITY HAS SECURED 250,000 GRANT THROUGH THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT RESILIENT COMMUNITIES PROGRAM TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT IS TO ASSIST THE CITY IN DEVELOPING A FORWARD LOOKING PLAN THAT INTEGRATES HAZARD MITIGATION AND TO UPDATE THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THE CITY'S CURRENT PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2015, UH, RECOGNIZING THE NEED TO REFLECT RECENT GROWTH STRAINS, EVOLVING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES, AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESILIENCE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. 
          UH, THE CITY INITIATED A PLAN UPDATE IN MAY, 2025, AND THE PROCESS IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 20 MONTHS TO COMPLETE. 
          THE PLAN IS THE CITY 10 TO 20 YEAR GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR MANAGING GROWTH AND SHAPING THE CITY'S FUTURE. 
          THE PLAN WILL PROVIDE A COMMUNITY DERIVED VISION FOR THE FUTURE IMPLEMENTABLE GOALS FOR SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT, AND BALANCED DEVELOPMENT GUIDANCE ON FUTURE LAND USE, CHARACTER HOUSING, INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE TO THE CITY LEADERS IN ASSIGNING RESOURCES AND UPDATING LOCAL ORDINANCES AND A BASIS FOR FUTURE GRANTS AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION AND RESILIENCE. 
          THE CONSULTANT OR DURA GROUP INC IS HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION OUTLINING THE CURRENT PROJECT STATUS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND THE PLANNING PROCESS AND UPCOMING STEPS. 
          SO I'VE GOT LAIE HERE FROM OUR DOOR TO GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION. 
          MAYOR, IF YOU OKAY. 
          WE ALL, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, SO CAN WE OH, GREAT. 
          CAN HEAR THE ONE SPEAKER SANDY CANNER. 
          AND IF YOU'LL MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GREEN LIGHT ON. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, MY NAME IS SANDY CANNER. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 36 15. 
          I HAD A LITTLE, I, I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC'S ON. 
          YEAH. 
          IS IT NOT ON? OKAY. 
          OTHER GREEN BETTER? YES, MA'AM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MY NAME IS SANDY CANNER. 
          I LIVE AT 36 15 ROCK LEDGE DRIVE IN THE SANDERO COMMUNITY. 
          AND I ALSO SERVE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU BRIEFLY BEFORE THE PRESENTATION, UM, TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UH, IN THE PAST ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, AND TO ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE AS WE GO THROUGH THE, UH, PROCESS. 
          UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS MET SEVERAL TIMES WITH CITY STAFF, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND OUR DURA. 
          AND MANY GREAT IDEAS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND RECORDED IN THOSE MEETINGS. 
          I PARTICULARLY FOUND THE BUS TOUR OF THE CITY TO REVIEW THE CONDITION OF THE CITY AND THE, UH, CURRENT STATUS OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          VERY HELPFUL AND JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN A COUPLE HOURS AND DONE A FULL TOUR OF THE CITY. 
          IT'S A REALLY GREAT THING TO DO. 
          UM, I ALSO, I BELIEVE OUR COMMENT PERIOD IS STILL OPEN ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. 
          AND JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T, TO, UM, PUT YOUR OPINIONS IN ON THE SURVEY THAT'S THERE. 
          AND ALSO, UH, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TO DO THE SAME. 
          WE'RE A LITTLE LOW ON COMMENTS, I BELIEVE, AND COULD USE QUITE A FEW MORE IDEAS. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOT ALL OF YOU, NECESSARILY AT THE SAME TIME, BUT YOU 
          [00:20:01]
KNOW, ONE OR TWO HERE AND THERE TO JOIN US IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOUR PHYSICAL PERSONAL SUPPORT AT THOSE MEETINGS IF POSSIBLE. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE. 
          I HAVE A QUICK, UH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED. 
          SURE. 
          SO, AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS LATA KRISHNA AND I'M PART OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM THAT'S HELPING THE CITY WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, AS STATED EARLIER, THIS IS A, UM, GRANT FUNDED PROJECT, A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, FUNDED BY THE C-D-B-G-R-C-P GRANT. 
          UH, THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIRED BY THE CITY. 
          AND AS MOHAMMAD SAID, THE PURPOSE IS TO, UH, UH, UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT ALSO LOOKS AT HAZARD MITIGATION, AND THEN FOLLOW IT UP TO SEE IF ANY CODES NEED TO BE AMENDED. 
          AND, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A NUMBER OF COMPONENTS TO IT. 
          AS YOU KNOW, ALL, IT'S NOT JUST A LAND USE PLAN, BUT IT LOOKS AT HISTORY, CULTURE, HOUSING, INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY, TOURISM, ECONOMY, AND OTHER ASPECTS. 
          UM, SO WE, UM, MOHAMED TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANNING STEPS, STARTING FROM A VISION TO, UH, NOT JUST HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT HAVING A VERY STRONG IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT, UH, LAYS DOWN WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT AND SOME KIND OF A TIMELINE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, ON TOP OF IT, HAVING A PLAN TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT SET IN STONE. 
          IT CAN BE AMENDED CHANGE ANYTIME THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL WANTS TO. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS AND SEE IF THERE IS A NEED TO PIVOT. 
          UM, JUST, UH, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS YOU SEE. 
          UM, WHEN THE, THE PLAN WAS FIRST, UH, THE PROCESS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS PART OF THE WORK PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AND THAT EVERY STEP, THE THOUGHT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE EITHER, UM, GETTING DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND ALSO, UH, TALKING TO STAKEHOLDERS, UM, HAVING TOWN HALL MEETINGS, AND THEN, UH, EVENTUALLY GETTING THE PLAN APPROVED THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. 
          SO, JUST A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          THE FIRST STEP WAS, UH, IN, UM, JUNE, UH, WHEN, THEN WE CAME TO THE JULY WHEN WE CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE KICKOFF. 
          EXCUSE ME, JUST A SECOND MA'AM. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT SEEING THE POWERPOINTS. 
          MAYBE I'LL PRESS YOUR PRESENTATION SCREEN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          RIGHT, THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS A VERY, UH, GOOD MEETING. 
          WE GOT SOME GOOD, UM, DIRECTIVE FROM THE, UH, COUNCIL. 
          UM, WE FOLLOWED UP WITH A FEW INTERVIEWS. 
          UM, WE HAD A QUESTIONNAIRE THAT SOME OF YOU FILLED OUT AND SOME THINGS THAT STOOD OUT WAS THE NEED FOR BALANCED GROWTH. 
          AND THE BIGGEST THING WE HEARD WAS JUST A SMALL, THE SMALL TOWN CHARM. 
          AND, UM, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP ON OUR HISTORIC ROOTS. 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT CAME FROM THAT EXERCISE WE DID, IT DID WITH YOU ALL LOOKED LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CITY SERVICES, COMMUNITY WELLBEING, AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THOSE WERE KIND OF THE FOUR, UH, GOALPOSTS OR PILLARS, UM, UH, IF I MAY USE THAT WORD. 
          UH, THEN THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPOINT A, UM, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH 18 MEMBERS. 
          SO WE HAVE HAD, UM, THREE SESSIONS WITH THEM STARTING IN, UH, JULY. 
          AND THEN WE HAD A BUS TOUR IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE CITY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO ORGANIZE FOR A BUS. 
          AND THE CPAC MEMBERS, UH, DROVE AROUND THE CITY AND GAVE, UM, SOME REALLY GOOD INPUT, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON GROUND. 
          UH, AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES THERE. 
          THE CPAC ONE WAS MORE OF AN INTRODUCTORY CPAC TWO WAS THE BUS TOUR. 
          AND FROM THE BUS STORE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND THE ISSUES. 
          AND WHEN WE MET AGAIN, UM, FOR CPAC THREE, WE, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, LOOKED AT, UM, FRAMING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO THE CPAC, UM, HELPED TO PUT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER AND TO, UM, ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE THEM TOO. 
          SO, UM, SO THAT WAS A GREAT SESSION. 
          UH, THE OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, EVENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SORT OF HANGING OUT AND IN THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, THAT WAS IN OCTOBER, WE HAD A VERY GOOD TURNOUT. 
          WE HAD SOME HANDS-ON ACTIVITIES. 
          UM, THE SLIDE ON 
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THE TOP THAT SAYS THE VISION PATCH, PEOPLE WERE ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THE CITY? LIKE A PUMPKIN PATCH. 
          SO, UH, SO PEOPLE, WE GOT SOME VERY GOOD, UH, FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          AND THEN THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU PROUD OF? WHAT ARE YOU, UM, WORRIED ABOUT? WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THE CITY? SO, UM, AFTER THAT, UH, OTHER WAYS THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE HAD, UH, A LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE, THAT, UH, CITY STAFF HELPED US TO COME UP WITH. 
          AND WE HAVE HAD ABOUT NINE INTERVIEWS OR FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS WITH THEM. 
          UM, WE DO ZOOM MEETINGS ABOUT EACH MEETING SOMETIMES MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 10, 12 STAKEHOLDERS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS. 
          UM, THERE IS A WEBSITE, UH, ONLINE AND, UM, THERE'S ALSO AN INTERACTIVE MAP WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND ACTUALLY CLICK AND WRITE COMMENTS ON THE MAP. 
          AND THE CITY HAS BEEN, UH, REALLY PROACTIVE IN SENDING OUT EMAIL BLASTS AND, UM, SENDING THE WORD OUT. 
          SO, UM, SOME OF THE THING, THE FOCUS GROUPS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, UM, YOU SEE WE STARTED WITH THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP TEAM, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          UH, WE'VE MET WITH THEM, WE'VE MET WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOP DEVELOPERS. 
          WE HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH THE RAILROAD MUSEUM AND THE FORT BEND COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION, UH, DRAINAGE DISTRICT TDOT. 
          UM, WE ALSO MET WITH THE TRANSIT REPRESENTATIVE AND GOT SOME REALLY HELPFUL INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRANSIT NEEDS FOR, OF THE PEOPLE HERE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO CITY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UM, WE ARE WORKING TO SCHEDULE A STUDENT GROUP MEETING SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK, GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MEET WITH SOME STU HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE LAST ONE WAS THE COUNTY ENGINEER THAT WE ARE WAITING TO MEET. 
          SO, UH, WHAT IS THAT RESULTED IN? UM, WE HAVE HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED, AND THIS IS AS OF, UM, YESTERDAY. 
          WE HAVE HAD ABOUT 110 PLUS SURVEY RESPONSES, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD. 
          I MEAN, IT MIGHT SEEM, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT MOST OFTEN IF PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THE CITY, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF RESPONSES. 
          SO, BUT ALL IN ALL, WITH ALL THE DATA THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED, WE HAVE ABOUT 14,000 DATA POINTS TO WORK WITH. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE SUMMARIZING, UM, ALL THIS INFORMATION AND, UM, SYNTHESIZING THEM AND TO, UM, SEE HOW, UH, AND GO BACK TO THE CPAC AND SEE HOW THEY WOULD WANNA MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO THIS KIND OF JUST TELLS YOU THE STATUS AND THE FEW STEPS. 
          SO WE ARE IN NOVEMBER NOW. 
          UM, WE DID EXPAND SOME, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES. 
          WE HAVE, UM, EXTENDED THE TIME THAT THE QUESTIONNAIRE IS OUT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS MEETING AND GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL. 
          UM, AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN KEEP IT OPEN TILL THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER. 
          AND SO, UH, WE ARE WORKING ON THE FINDINGS REPORT AND KIND OF STARTED TO WORK ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST CPA MEETING. 
          SO, OH, SORRY. 
          SO YEAH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          GOT IT. 
          HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          UH, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE, YOU'RE STILL ANALYZING THE DATA. 
          WHAT IS THE MOST COMMON FROM YOUR SURVEY THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE RESIDENTS CITIZENS TO ROSENBERG? WHAT'S THE, LIKE, THAT STANDS OUT THAT YOU SEE IT MOST OFTEN? RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I, THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS, UH, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN RO UH, IN THE CITY LOVE THE CITY. 
          SO IF YOU, IF I CAN PUT IT IN ANOTHER WAY, WE ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU WORRIED ABOUT RIGHT FOR THE FUTURE. 
          THEY LIKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY SEE NOW, MOST OF IT. 
          UM, SO THE, SOME OF THE WORRIES ARE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF HOUSING DECAY, UH, OLD INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO PEOPLE DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT IF THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED, THEN IT MIGHT BE DETRIMENTAL IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, THEY LOVE THE DOWNTOWN, BUT WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE ACTIVATION THERE. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, TREPIDATION ABOUT THE RAILROAD MUSEUM. 
          THEY'RE WORRIED THAT IT MIGHT MOVE OUT. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HEARD. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THEY LOVE THE PARK SYSTEM, BUT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF, UM, COMMENTS ON HOW MAYBE THERE IS A NEED TO UPDATE SOME FACILITIES IN THE SANBORN PARK, YOU KNOW, ADD ON TO IT, UH, MAINTAIN IT BETTER. 
          ONE THING THAT THEY DO LIKE IS THAT THERE ARE ALREADY A LOT OF SUSTAINABLE MEASURES, LIKE IN THE PARK, THEY ALREADY USE GRAY WATER FOR IRRIGATION. 
          SO PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERN, SMALL TOWN CHARACTER, THEY DON'T WANNA LOSE THAT CHARACTER. 
          AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING PEOPLE IS, CAN YOU DEFINE IT FOR US? WHAT EXACTLY IS SMALL TOWN CHARACTER? BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING AND THE VACANT LAND THAT YOU ALL HAVE, IT'S GOING TO GROW. 
          BUT YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, MANAGE THAT GROWTH. 
          SO WHAT IS THAT THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE? AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF DWELL A LITTLE, UH, DEEPER BECAUSE 
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JUST SMALL TOWN CHARACTER IS NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE TRANSLATE IT INTO POLICIES, RIGHT, OR REGULATIONS OR ORDINANCE. 
          IS IT THE TREE CANOPY, IS IT THE HOUSING? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT? BUT SMALL TOWN CHARACTER DEFINITELY STANDS OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          AND YEAH, SOME OF THESE OBSERVATIONS ARE IN OUR WEBSITE, SO I WOULD UM, URGE YOU TO GO TO THE WEBSITE. 
          ALL OF THESE ARE SUMMARIZED INTO GRAPHS AND CHARTS AND, UM, YOU CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT. 
          MAYBE WE CAN EVEN PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE REPORT FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. 
          JOYCE, ARE WE FINISHED WITH THIS ITEM OR IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC? NO, IT'S JUST AN UPDATE FOR COUNSEL AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, LET'S, THEY, WERE HERE TO ANSWER THE COUNSEL HAS ANY QUE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR SUGGESTIONS? UM, OH, I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE AND I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT SURVEYS AND DIFFERENT STUDIES AND DIFFERENT PLANS AND STUFF. 
          AND I WOULD SAY TO THE PUBLIC, WELL FIRST I WANNA SAY TO THIS GROUP, THANK THEM FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, IT'S INTERESTING THAT WHEN, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT WONDER HOW THE CITY'S DOING, WONDER IF WE'RE PUT ALLOCATING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS PUBLIC MONEY. 
          INTERESTING THING IS WE HAVE VERY LITTLE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T ASK, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T COME WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE IT ALL COMES DOWN. 
          EVERYTHING WE DO IS IN THAT BUDGET. 
          SO WE HAVE BUDGET HEARINGS, THE STAFF IS HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO GUESS. 
          AND WE HAVE CAMPAIGNS, WE ALL RUN AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND WE ALSO SURVEY WHEN WE RUN AND WHEN WE CAMPAIGN. 
          AND THEN PEOPLE GET, UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THEY HAVE AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS THEM, THEN THEY GET VOCAL. 
          AND SO WE, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS, DON'T WAIT TILL SOMETHING, UH, AFFECTS YOU, UM, TO GET VOCAL. 
          GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          LAST MONTH OR MAYBE THE MONTH BEFORE THAT, UH, KATHY, KATHY CROSS AND, UM, JOE BOSWELL, UH, DISTRICT ONE, FELIX, YOUR DISTRICT, THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A DETENTION POND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEIR HOUSE. 
          WE GOT A GRANT. 
          IT IS 21 ACRES AND THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FOREST ACROSS THE STREET FROM 'EM. 
          NOW THAT FOREST IS IN THE PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY, OF GOING AWAY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE PART OF A VERY LARGE DRAINAGE PROJECT. 
          I RECEIVED A CALL TODAY A, A VERY FIRM CALL FROM, UM, A VERY PROMINENT PERSON IN RICHMOND THAT LIVES RIGHT ON THE LINE, BUT IN THE RICHMOND SIDE. 
          AND HER HOUSE IS SHAKING, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BECAUSE THEY'RE TEARING OUT TREES THIS BIG AROUND FOR THIS DETENTION PROJECT. 
          SO EVERYTHING THE CITY DOES HAS CONSEQUENCES. 
          SO I HAD TO GET THE STAFF TO GIVE HER A CALL, GET HER SMOOTHED OUT THIS AND THAT. 
          OF COURSE SHE'S STILL NOT HAPPY. 
          SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE FOLKS INPUT. 
          WHERE TO PUT THOSE RESOURCES I THINK IS KIND OF THE BASIS OF THESE SORT OF, UH, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. 
          AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN. 
          AND THEN WE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS, THE BEST, THE MOST PUREST TIME THAT YOU CAN GET INTO THAT AND SEE IT WORKING IS WHEN WE DO OUR BUDGET HEARINGS HERE AND THEN YOU SEE WHAT DEPARTMENT IS OUT. 
          'CAUSE THEY ALL WANT MORE. 
          EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS MORE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE TO TELL SOME PEOPLE NO, OR SOME PEOPLE NOT AS MUCH AND PUT IT OVER HERE. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE, WE HAVE TO DO. 
          SO I WOULD EXPLAIN IF IT COMES UP AT THE, AT THE COMMITTEE, UM, THAT, UM, YEAH, EVERYTHING WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE HEAR THEIR, WE HEAR THEIR CONCERN, BUT IT'S ALL, IT ALL HINGES ON, UH, BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YEAH, I GOT ONE COMMENT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE THE CITY, I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOUR, UM, FOR THOSE CITIZENS OUT THERE, THIS IS A FUNDED FUND. 
          WE'RE NOT PUTTING NOTHING FROM GENERAL FUNDS. 
          THIS IS IS BEING GRANTED, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          I JUST FROM GLL, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE, UH, MAKE SURE I'M READING THAT RIGHT. 
          JUST SO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING OR WATCHING, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A, 
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WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY. 
          RIGHT? I, IF I MAY ADD, I THE HOPE IS THAT THIS PLAN WILL HELP YOU GET MORE FUNDING. 
          SO ONCE YOU THE G-L-O-C-D-B-G APPROVES THE PLAN, THEN IT KIND OF ESTABLISH THE FOUNDATION TO SEEK MORE GRANTS. 
          UM, THE TEXT, TEXT, TEXT DOT, TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE GRANT LIST CAME OUT. 
          AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH THAT WERE GRANTED FUNDS TO DO HIKE AND BUY. 
          OH, SO HIKE AND HIKE AND OTHER. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS HELPS IN THE FUTURE FOR THE CITY TO GET MORE FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF GETTING IT FROM THE TAXPAYERS? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          STATE AND FEDERAL. 
          STATE AND FEDERAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THE GOVERNMENT AND THE TAXPAYERS OUT OF CLARIFICATION ARE THE SAME THING, BUT UM, I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR, BUT WHY GIVE IT TO SOME, WHY WE'RE STILL GONNA PAY FOR IT AT THE END AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA GET THE MONEY. 
          THAT'S MY THOUGHT. 
          I MEAN, IF WE'RE GETTING IT NOW, WHY NOT JUST GET IT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? I'M GOOD. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMITTEE AND GIVE THE COMMITTEE ALL REGARDS AND TELL 'EM WE WISH 'EM ALL THEIR BEST AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UH, THE, THE REST OF THEIR WORK. 
          ALRIGHT, NOW WE'LL 
          [4.  Review and discuss the creation of the Crime Control and Prevention District, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Joyce Vasut, City Manager)  ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          AND I KNOW WE HAVE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, BUT I'LL READ THE ITEM FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE SPEAKERS. 
          IS THAT THE WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT? THE ORDER? THE ORDER? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CREATION OF CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY. 
          DIRECT STAFF, MS. VASU. 
          WELL, LET ME DO THE, WE DO THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FIRST. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. 
          AT THE AUGUST 19TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL, REGULAR MEETING COUNSELORS, RICHARD OLSON AND FELIX VARGAS PROPOSED THE CREATION OF A CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT TO PROVIDE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR POLICE OPERATIONS, CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE CCPD WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH A VOTER APPROVED SALES TAX ALLOCATION UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 360 3, CITY COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO POSTPONE THE ITEM TO A FUTURE MEETING. 
          UNDER STATE LAW, CITIES MAY FUND A-C-C-P-D THROUGH A SALES TAX UP TO ONE HALF PERCENT OR 0.5% SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL. 
          THE SMALLEST ALLOWABLE ALLOCATION IS ONE EIGHTH OF 1%, WHICH THE, WHICH FOR ROSENBERG WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION ANNUALLY. 
          WHILE THE PROPOSED ANTICIPATE, WHILE THE PROPOSAL ANTICIPATED A NEED OF APPROXIMATELY A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN ANNUAL FUNDING, THE STATUTORY MINIMUM RESULTS IN A MUCH HIGHER REVENUE AMOUNT. 
          TEXAS LAW CAPS A CITY'S TOTAL SALES TAX RATE AT 2%. 
          ROSENBERG HAS ALREADY REACHED THIS MAXIMUM WITH THE CURRENT ALLOCATION AS FOLLOWS, 1 CENT TO GENERAL SALES TAX, A HALF A CENT TO GENERAL SALES TAX FOR PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION AND A HALF A CENT TO THE ROSENBERG RDC. 
          TO IMPLEMENT A-C-C-P-D, THE CITY WOULD NEED TO REALLOCATE A PORTION OF THE EXISTING SALES TAX, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE REDUCING SALES TAX FUNDING FROM THE RDC. 
          REDIRECTING THE MINIMUM ALLOCATION OF ONE EIGHTH OF 1% TO THE CCPD WOULD REDUCE THE RDC REVENUE BY APPROXIMATELY 1.7 MILLION ANNUALLY IMPACTING CAPITAL PROJECTS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS SUCH AS PARK IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH THE REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING ALLOCATION AND THE CREATION OF A-C-C-P-D REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL THROUGH AN ELECTION OPEN TO ALL REGISTERED VOTERS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH A SINGLE BALLOT PROPOSITION THAT'S SIMULTANEOUSLY REDUCES THE RDC SALES TAX ALLOCATION AND ESTABLISHES THE CCPD WITH THE REALLOCATED SALES TAX FUNDING. 
          EXCUSE ME, IF APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, THE CCPD WOULD BE GOVERNED BY A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD INCLUDE PREPARING A CRIME PLAN AND BUDGET PLAN, REVIEWING AND APPROVING AN ANNUAL BUDGET MONITORING EXPENDITURES AND ENSURING ACTIVITIES ALIGNED WITH THE STATUTORY PURPOSES OF THE CCPD. 
          TO MEET THE TIMELINE FOR THE MAY ELECTION CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE A-C-C-P-D AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A TEMPORARY BOARD WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED AT THE DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 CITY 
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COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THE PRIMARY BENEFIT OF ESTABLISHING A-C-C-P-D IS THE CREATION OF A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT INCREASING PROPERTY TAXES. 
          THE DRAWBACKS INCLUDE DIVERTING FUNDING FROM THE RDC, WHICH WOULD LIMIT CAPITAL PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND PUT MORE BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUND FOR SUCH PROJECTS. 
          THE NEXT STEPS INCLUDE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TO INITIATE THE CCPD CREATION PROCESS. 
          APPOINTMENT OF THE CCPD BOARD BOARD DEVELOPMENT OF A CRIME PLAN AND A BUDGET PLAN, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH ON THE PURPOSE OF THE CCPD PLACEMENT OF THE CCPD TAX SALES TAX MEASURE ON A FUTURE ELECTION BALLOT FOR VOTER CONSIDERATION AND ESTABLISHMENT OF CCPD STRUCTURE AND INITIAL BUDGET PLANNING PENDING VOTER APPROVAL, A DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET. 
          SHOULD THE CONSENSUS OF CITY COUNCIL BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CREATION OF THIS DISTRICT? UM, TWO ITEMS WOULD NEED TO BE PLACED ON SEPTEMBER, I'M SORRY, ON THE DECEMBER 2ND AGENDA TO CREATE THE CCPD TO APPOINT THE BOARD. 
          AND WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS. 
          THE FIRST SPEAKER IS TED GARCIA. 
          MR. GARCIA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GODFATHER, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? YES. 
          AND WHEN EACH OF YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU'LL JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          AND MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON. 
          IS THE GREEN LIGHT ON? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS TED GARCIA. 
          I RECITE, IT'S 1 6 0 3 JONES STREET, ROSENBERG, TEXAS. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE RDCI AM NOT OPPOSED TO IMPLEMENTING THE CCP DISTRICT. 
          I AM OPPOSED TO THE METHOD OF FUNDING. 
          THE RTC HAS COMMITTED $5.6 MILLION FOR PROJECTS IN 2026. 
          THE PROPOSED ONE EIGHTH CENT EQUATES TO 1.7 MILLION. 
          BASICALLY, THIS ELIMINATES TWO OR THREE PROJECTS. 
          THE CORE EFFORTS THROUGH THE RDC ARE THE ONLY ONES DE DESIGNED TO GENERATE NEW COMMERCIAL REVENUES. 
          THE RDC PROJECTS GENERATE TAX REVENUES FROM COMMERCIAL SOURCES WHO IN TURN OFFSET RESIDENTIAL TAX BURDEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TED GEORGE, YOU WANNA COME NEXT? OR, OR TIM? COMMANDER TIM ANDERS. 
          TIM. 
          WELL, WE WILL GET GEORGE. 
          GEORGE, YOU'LL DO FINE. 
          I HOPE SO. 
          HOW Y'ALL READING? OKAY. 
          GREETINGS TO THE CITY OF ROSEBERG COUNCIL. 
          NAME IT. 
          I AM GEORGE X. 
          MR. HE OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          , EXCUSE ME, GO AHEAD. 
          JUST MAKE SURE YOU GOT, SHE GOT YOU COVERED GEORGE. 
          HES CONTRERAS. 
          OH. 
          I LIVE AT 2 2 1 0 SECOND STREET, ROSENBERG, TEXAS. 
          I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF ROSENBERG DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, KNOWN AS, OF COURSE, THE RDC. 
          I'M HERE TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL NOT TO TAKE FUNDS AWAY FROM THE RDC. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THE 10 MILLION SITTING ON THE RD C'S FINANCIAL LINE LOOKS GOOD. 
          BUT THE RDC HAS WELL KNOWN WHAT'S CREATED TO FINANCE NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. 
          IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT RDC CONTRIBUTES TO THE GROWTH OF ROSENBERG AND ITS ACCRUED SALES TAX. 
          THE RDCS PROJECTS IMPROVE A COMMUNITY'S QUALITY OF LIFE, INCLUDING PARKS, PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES, WHICH PROMOTES NEW OR EXPANDED BUSINESS ACTIVITY THAT CREATES JOBS WITHIN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG. 
          IT TAKES MONEY TO ENTICE COMPANIES INTO THE AREA. 
          THE COST OF INVESTMENT TO ATTRACT A NEW BUSINESS OR SEVERAL COMPANIES COULD EASILY RUN INTO THE MILLIONS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THUS, RDC NEEDS TO MAINTAIN A NEST EGG FOR UNEXPECTED EXCELLENT COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY COST SEVERAL MILLIONS IN THE SHORT RUN, BUT BRING IN MILLIONS IN SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX. 
          THE RDC WANTS 
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DOES NOT WANT TO OVEREXTEND ITS CAPABILITIES IN FUNDING. 
          THAT IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THE CURRENT BOARD WANTS TO AVOID. 
          THE FUNDS THAT CCP IS EXPECTED TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE RDC WILL NEVER BE RECOVERED BY RDC. 
          IT WILL SURELY IMPACT FUNDS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS. 
          AGAIN, THE OBJECTIVE OF THE RDC IS TO ATTRACT COMPANIES INTO THE PRO, INTO THE ETJ AND CITY ROSENBERG, CITY OF ROSENBERG. 
          BUT IT TAKES MONEY TO ATTRACT A COMPANY'S INVESTMENT. 
          THE MONEY'S TAKEN FOR THE CCP FROM THE RDC WILL NEVER BE RECOUPED BY THE RDC. 
          MY RECOMMENDATION IS LEAVE THE RDC FUNDING AS IS. 
          THANK YOU GEORGE. 
          TIM. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M TIMOTHY ANDERS, 37 0 8 AVENUE R ROSENBERG. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY AS A CURRENT CIVILIAN MEMBER OF THE ROSENBERG DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE RDC. 
          AS YOU KNOW, I SERVED ON COUNCIL FROM DECEMBER OF 2019 THROUGH JUNE OF 2022. 
          AND DURING THAT TIME, I SAT ON THE RDC AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          ITEM FOUR OF TODAY'S AGENDA IS CONCERNING TO ME FOR THE REASONS EXPRESSED SO WELL BY MR. GARCIA AND MR. HICKS. 
          INSTEAD OF SUBJECTING COUNSEL TO MORE REPETITION OF BIG NUMBERS, LET ME JUST SAY THAT DURING MY TIME ON THE RDC, BOTH PAST AND CURRENT, I HAVE SEEN MANY PROJECTS BEGUN AND COMPLETED BY THE RDC. 
          ITS ABILITY TO DESIGNATE FUNDING TO PROJECTS COUNCIL MAY HAVE BEEN UNWILLING TO UNDERTAKE OR MAY BE CONSIDERED NOT AS IMPORTANT AS OTHERS. 
          YES, SIDEWALKS AND WATER PARK IMPROVEMENTS MAY NOT SEEM TYPE PRIORITY, BUT THROUGH RDC BACKING, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED FOR THE TAX PAYING PUBLIC TO UTILIZE AND ENJOY FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          THE DOWNTOWN PARKING LOT FIELD TO CAPACITY WHEN DOWNTOWN HOLD EVENTS IS ANOTHER PROJECT FUNDED BY THE RDC SEABORNE CREEK PARK IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE FM 2218 ENTRANCE WITH THE ROADWAY, THE INTO AND THROUGHOUT THE PARK, AS WELL AS A NEW PARKING LOT AND AT LEAST ONE NEW BASEBALL FIELD ARE BEING FUNDED BY THE RDC, NOT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          20,000 HERE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND THERE. 
          IF, IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH CHANGING THE REVENUE STREAM, UH, FOR THE RDC PROJECTS, SUCH AS THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO ISN'T THIS ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EACH HAVE BUDGETS, WHY NOT INCORPORATE THEIR NEEDS AND WANTS INTO THE BUDGETS THEY ALREADY PREPARE EACH YEAR? THE RDC, IN MY OPINION, IS A GREAT STEWARD OF THE SALES TAX MONEY IT RECEIVES, SPENDING IT WISELY AND PRUDENTLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, TIM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH RICHARD AND FELIX. 
          DO Y'ALL MIND, RICHARD? WELL, I THINK IT'D BE BETTER IF WE WENT LAST. 
          WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS CONCERNED WITH. 
          OKAY. 
          DO THE OTHER COUNCIL. 
          MY MY BIGGEST THING I JUST WANNA, UH, MAKE CLEAR IS WE'RE NOT TAKING EVERYTHING FROM THE RDC. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, LIKE THE THING SAYS, IT'S, UH, ONE EIGHTH OF 1%. 
          SO OF SALES TAX, UM, RDC WILL STILL BE THERE. 
          IT'LL STILL DO EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S ALWAYS DONE. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU WANNA GO DOWN THE LINE? I HAVE SOME CLARIFI CLARIFICATION QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          JOYCE, WHAT, UM, COUPLE THINGS. 
          WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE OF THE RDC RIGHT NOW? ABOUT 10 MILLION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WHAT DID THEY GENERATE LAST YEAR? ROUGHLY? WITHIN A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          WHAT DOES THE FUND GENERATE? BECAUSE I SITTING ABOUT 7 MILLION. 
          7 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S ESTIMATING HERE, IF, UH, THE PROPOSAL WENT THROUGH THAT IT WOULD, UH, TAKE 1.7 MILLION OUT OF 7 MILLION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND STILL LEAVE 5 MILLION? YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO DRAIN, THAT'S GOING TO WIPE OUT THE ACCOUNT. 
          NO ONE SAID THAT. 
          LET ME, LET ME, CAN I CHIP IN IN THERE PLEASE? UH, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          WHAT 
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HAS THE RDC REVENUE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS DO? CAN Y'ALL TELL US WHAT THEY BROUGHT IN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS? YEAH, I, I CAN HAVE MARY, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS WHAT REVENUES RDC HAS BROUGHT IN. 
          UM, ADRIANA, IF YOU CAN ADVANCE THAT. 
          REVENUES OR PROJECTS. 
          ONE, ONE MORE. 
          ONE MORE SLIDE. 
          ADRIANA. 
          SO CUMULATIVELY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS ONE, CUMULATIVELY OVER THE LAST, UH, 10 YEARS, WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THE RDC HAS INCENTIVIZED. 
          THIS TOTAL RIGHT HERE IS, IS 13.3 MILLION, IS WHAT IS PRODUCED ANNUALLY FOR THE CITY BUDGET AS A COMBINATION OF PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED BY THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE, WERE RECRUITED WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING 13.3 MILLION IN THE LAST 10 YEARS BECAUSE WHAT RDC HAS FUNDED IN THE LAST 13.3 ANNUALLY. 
          ANNUALLY. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL CITY BUDGET OF, I BELIEVE IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 70 MILLION, 13.3 MILLION OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE PROJECTS THAT THE RDC INCENTIVIZE. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE SOME MONEY FROM RDC, WE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE MAKING THOSE 13 POINT, 13.3 MILLION ANYMORE. 
          THIS ONE WOULD STILL BE THERE. 
          BUT WHAT COULD BE THERE IN THE FUTURE THAT, IN THE FUTURE WOULD GREATER BE A GREATER OFFSET TO RESIDENTIAL TAX BURDEN? SO I GOT A QUESTION FOR FELIX AND, AND, AND RICHARD, WHY, I MEAN, YOU GUYS SAYING WE ONLY NEED 500,000 INSTEAD OF HITTING RDC FOR 1.7 MILLION. 
          WHY NOT JUST SAY, ADD IT TO THE BUDGET AND LITIG IT, GET APPROVED BY COUNSEL? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? UH, IT'S ONLY HALF, UH, HALF A MILLION. 
          INSTEAD, INSTEAD OF TAKING THE MONEY FROM RDC 1.7, WHY NOT JUST SAY, HEY, AS CHIEF, WHY PUT IT ON YOUR BUDGET AND WE APPROVE IT? THE, UH, WHATEVER COUNCIL APPROVES HIS BUDGET. 
          DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT OR YOU WANT ME TO? I MEAN, YOU CAN. 
          WELL, THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE, BUT WHY RDC? WELL, HERE'S HERE. 
          I THINK IT HAS TO BE A TAX REVENUE, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S GENERAL BECAUSE THE FUND IS, HANG ON, BECAUSE THAT'S THE HEALTHIEST FUND LEGALLY THAT IT COULD COME FROM. 
          IT CAN'T COME FROM THE PARKS FUND, CAN'T COME FROM THE HOT FUND, IT CAN'T COME FROM THE WATER FUND. 
          THOSE THINGS STATUTORILY WOULD PROHIBIT IT. 
          WHAT WHAT RICHARD'S SUGGESTING IS, IS ONLY WITH VOTER APPROVAL. 
          HERE'S ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID. 
          THIS IS ALL CONTINGENT TO VOTER APPROVAL. 
          YEAH, BUT I MEAN FOR A HALF. 
          AND, AND I'VE SEEN FOLKS PUT THINGS ON VOTER APPROVAL, WHICH I WOULD CONSIDER FRIVOLOUS AND I WOULD NOT CONSIDER THIS FRIVOLOUS. 
          SO WE WON'T GET ALL INTO THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS NOT ON THIS LIST THAT I COULD MENTION THAT I WOULD CONSIDER FRIVOLOUS THAT WERE HERE. 
          NO, NO DISRESPECT TO YOU MA'AM, BUT WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU CAME. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND NOT ALL OF THESE THINGS, UH, EVERYBODY SUPPORTS WET SOUNDS. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS A SOFT BIOTICS. 
          I SEE HE WAS HERE. 
          UM, SO YEAH, EVERYBODY WANTS JOBS, WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION AND THE MISSION OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, UH, ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, TAXATION. 
          WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS FINISH, JUST HOLD ON, LET ME FINISH MY COMMENT TO YOU. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE WILLING TO JEOPARDIZE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE FOR, FROM RDC THAT THEY'VE SUPPORTED AS YOU GUYS, AS MR. GARCIA SAID, HE'S GOT, WE GOT 5.7 MILLION NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET. 
          YOU, YOU'RE WILLING TO DRAIN THAT ACCOUNT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA START FUNDING THOSE THROUGH GENERAL FUND, WHERE THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE PROBABLY OUR PROPERTY TAX. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF MONEY WHEN WE START HELPING THESE OTHER COMPANIES OR, OR, OR IMPROVING THE STREETS OR IMPROVING MORE SIDEWALKS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA MONEY, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HIT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO THEN? NO, LET ME, LET ME, SO GENERAL FUND'S NOT, THIS IS TAKING PRESSURE OFF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT'S DOING. 
          SO THINGS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH WOULD BE COMING FROM THE SALES TAX. 
          BUT SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE A BUNCH OF THINGS. 
          YEAH, WE DID ROYAL DC DID ALL THAT, BUT JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD THE FORMER DIRECTOR UP HERE SAYING IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, HE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING. 
          HE LITERALLY SAID ZERO. 
          NOT EVEN A LEMONADE STAND. 
          HE WAS, HE LYING. 
          AND THEN WHEN, WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, THERE WAS NOTHING. 
          I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING ELSE TOO. 
          YEARS AGO, I CAN REMEMBER, I'M SORRY TO BB UH, BORE FOLKS. 
          WE USED TO GO TO THE STORE AND WE BOUGHT CANDY AND IT WAS A DIME FOR REESE'S PEANUT BUTTER CUPS LIKE THIS. 
          BUT IT WAS 
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BIGGER. 
          WE USED TO GET MORE FOR OUR MONEY AND IT WAS A DIME. 
          IT WASN'T A DIME PLUS TAX. 
          SALES TAX IS RELATIVELY NEW IN, UM, IN, IN AMERICAN COMMERCE HISTORY IN TEXAS MAYBE 40, 50, 55 YEARS AGO. 
          THESE CONSUMER TAXES, WHICH ARE CALLED UH, VOLUNTARY TAXES HAVE BEEN EXPANDING. 
          YOU HAVE HOT TAX NOW, WHICH IS A SALES TAX, VOLUNTARY TAX, UNLESS YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A MOTEL AND IT'S NOT TOO VOLUNTARY. 
          YOU PAY IT OR YOU SLEEP IN YOUR CAR. 
          BUT, UH, SALES TAX AND THEN A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE NINETIES, UM, BECAUSE CITI DIDN'T ALWAYS GET CHARGE RDC TAX, THAT'S A RELATIVELY MODERN, UH, MECHANISM FOR, UM, FOR FUNDING. 
          UH, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS CAME IN THE NINETIES OR IN THE EIGHTIES AND IT WAS DONE, IT ALLOWED, UH, CITIES TO ASK THE VOTERS IF THEY WISH, IF THE VOTERS IN THAT CITY WISH TO CHARGE RES CHARGE PEOPLE AN EXTRA HALF A CENT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'S HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. 
          BUT PRIOR TO THAT, PEOPLE MADE ENDS MEET WITH THE PROPERTY TAX OR IF THEY HAD A REGULAR SALES TAX. 
          SO THIS HAS JUST BEEN ANOTHER WAY OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER FORM OF TAXATION. 
          HAS IT DONE SOME GOOD THINGS? OH YES, YOU BET. 
          THERE'S SOME GOOD THINGS ON THIS LIST. 
          UM, BUT WOULD IT, WOULD IT PUT US OUTTA BUSINESS IF THE FUND WENT AWAY, WHICH NOBODY IS PROPOSING HERE TONIGHT? I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T NOT BE ANY PART OF ABOLISHING RDC OR EVEN ABOLISHING, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE MECHANISM TO COLLECT TAXATION FROM IT, AND I'M FULL-BLOWN HARDCORE CONSERVATIVE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT, LET'S BE CLEAR, THAT IS NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO. 
          NOT BY RICHARD AND, AND, AND FELIX. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WIPING OUT THEIR MECHANISM TO COLLECT FUNDING. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE EIGHTH OF A HALF A CENT. 
          DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? ONE EIGHTH OF 1%. 
          ONE EIGHTH OF 1%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, WHICH WOULD BE ONE FOURTH, IT'S ABOUT 1.7 MILLION WOULD BE ONE FOURTH OF THE RDCS MONEY. 
          ONE FOURTH OF THEIR MONEY. 
          SO THEY STILL HAVE THREE QUARTERS OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING NOW. 
          ALRIGHT, SO HOW MUCH REVENUES ARE THIS GONNA CREATE? THIS NEW, UH, DISTRICT? WELL, IT'S ESTIMATED 1.7 MILLION. 
          HOW MUCH REVENUE OUT OF YOU'RE GONNA INVEST? IF I'M GONNA INVEST SOME MONEY I WANT, I WANNA RETURN, HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT GONNA BRING IN? I DON'T THINK IT IS LIKE A, THAT THIS IS LIKE A POLICE FUNCTION, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          IT WON'T GENERATE ANY REVENUE, RIGHT? OH, IT WILL NOT GENERATE, WELL, MAYBE INDIRECTLY IT'LL WANT BUSINESSES TO COME HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS CRIME OR FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A SAFER COMMUNITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THERE IS A VALUE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT A NUMBER ON IT. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, UH, WELL, WHEN YOU INTERACT WITH PEOPLE, IF YOU ASK THEM WHAT DO WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE TOP 5, 6, 7 THINGS, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE'S ONE WELL IN INFRASTRUCTURE IS AND RDC ARE BIG CONTRIBUTORS TO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I WILL NOT DENY THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS A A A GIVE AND TAKE. 
          THIS IS A, WE HAVE TO WEIGH, IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD THAT IT IS, YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THE COST TO THE BENEFIT AND, AND WHATEVER I I I AGREE WITH YOU THERE, MAYOR, BUT IF THEY'RE LIKE FELIX AND, AND RICHARD ARE SAYING IS HALF A MILLION, I THINK IT'S EASIER TO FUND IT THROUGH THE BUDGET. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          THAT'S AGAINST DIRECTLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IF WE ARE, ARE WE UNABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE TAX CUTS THAT WE'VE DONE? IS THAT WHAT THE ISSUE IS? SO IF YOU GO THROUGH AND CREATE A-C-C-P-D THIS WAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO ADOPT A TAX RATE OF AT LEAST ONE EIGHTH OF 1% SO YOU CAN INCREASE YOUR TAX RATE. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE CAP WITH, WITH WHAT THE OH NO, BUT OKAY, I GOT YOU. 
          SO, UH, NO, BUT I GUESS JESSICA'S QUESTION WAIT, I DON'T GET IT. 
          NO. 
          AH, JESSICA'S QUESTION IS IF, IS IT BECAUSE OF THE TAX CUTS WE'VE DONE THAT, THAT WE CAN'T FUND THIS? THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOUR QUESTION, THAT, THAT'S KINDA WHAT I'M ASKING IS LIKE, DID WE CUT THE TAXES SO MUCH THAT NOW WE'RE REACHING FOR THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO FUND IT? I THINK, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          REACHING TO THE RDC RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          IS THAT WHY WE CAN'T PAY IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? WHO ARE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION TO? EVERYBODY? ANYBODY WHO KNOWS? I I THINK WE CAN, I'LL ANSWER THAT. 
          EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TWO LARGE, WELL THE THREE LARGEST POOL POOLS OF MONEY HERE. 
          YOU GOT THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH THE TAX RATE AFFECTS. 
          UM, 
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BUT THAT FUND IS FUNDED BY REGULAR SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES. 
          THEN YOU GOT, UH, THE WATER WASTE WATER FUND, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN WE PAY OUR WATER BILLS THAT GOES THERE. 
          NOW WE GOT THAT. 
          THE NEXT LARGEST FUND WOULD PROBABLY BE THIS FUND. 
          CORRECT. 
          FOR THE CITY? PROBABLY. 
          SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR. 
          DON'T, DON'T, DON'T, DON'T GET ME, DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY, BUT I WOULD NOT SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA NOT LOWER TAXES SO THAT RD JUST SO THAT RDC CAN PRESERVE ANOTHER ONE EIGHTH OF 1 CENT. 
          I, I WOULD MUCH RATHER GIVE FOLKS A, A LITTLE TAX RELIEF AND REDUCE RDCS. 
          AND I HOPE YOU GUYS WOULD CONCUR TO THAT. 
          OR MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT FOLKS ON THE RDC. 
          I HOPE THAT FOLKS AROUND HERE WOULD CONCUR THAT KNOW US, WOULD, WOULD SAY WE'D RATHER HAVE A LITTLE TAX RELIEF AND REDUCE RDCS PORTION THAN SAY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP THAT, THAT 2 CENT TAX CUT. 
          I THINK YOU'RE GOING AT A WRONG MAYOR IF I MAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WHAT COULD, BUT LOOKING AT IT PURELY FROM A, A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUES OF THE CITY, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE, RIGHT? IF WE LOOK AT ONE FULL REVENUE SOURCES IN TERMS OF SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX, IF WE KEEP THE PROPERTY TAX RATE THE SAME IN THEORY RIGHT THERE, THERE'S NO INCREASED REVENUES. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT THOSE REVENUES ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS. 
          SO IF THE CCPD IS CREATED, IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALLOCATE THAT AND PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          YES. 
          THE, THE QUESTION HERE IS WHAT GETS CUT FROM RDC AND, AND WHAT'S USED FOR THAT 1.7 MILLION? BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ON THE SCREEN NOW ARE THE TYPES THAT WOULD GET CUT. 
          SO IT'D EITHER BE THAT WE DO NOT DO THOSE PROJECTS OR THAT WE HAVE TO FIND OTHER FUNDING FOR THEM. 
          WHAT IS THE, THE POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTIVITIES OF THOSE, WE WANNA PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? WE, WE WANT TO HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          MY GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE WEALTH OF A COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT. 
          AND I DON'T MEAN WHAT'S COMING INTO THE COFFERS NECESSARILY. 
          UH, THE CITY COFFERS, THAT IS A SECONDARY BENEFIT TO HAVING A, A MORE PROSPEROUS COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THAT INDIVIDUALS, UM, ARE ARE LIVING MORE PROSPEROUSLY. 
          THE WAY THAT WE DO THAT IS BRINGING IN COMMERCIAL TAX REVENUE. 
          SO THE, THE NUMBER THAT WE PUT ON THE SCREEN BEFORE THE 13.3 MILLION, THAT'S THE INCREASE IN THE VALOREM TAX FROM THOSE PROJECTS AND THE SALES TAX THAT WITHOUT HAVING SOME RE RESOURCES, UM, IN OUR COFFERS TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE PROJECTS, THEY MAY NOT HAVE COME. 
          WHEREAS THAT INCREASE OF 13.3 MILLION IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY GETS TO MAINTAIN ANNUALLY IN, IN PERPETUITY, RIGHT? AS LONG AS THOSE COMMUNITIES, THOSE BUSINESSES ARE HERE AND PRODUCING. 
          BUT WE CAN ADD TO THAT WITH THE PROPER RESOURCES IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO, SO THAT'S THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT PURELY FROM A BUDGETING STAND THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT IT TOO. 
          UH, MARIAN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY 1.7 MILLION. 
          THAT 1.7 MILLION COULD GENERATE PROBABLY THREE, 400,000 THAT THE, THE DISTRICT'S NOT GONNA GENERATE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I DON'T MIND FUNDING THAT, BUT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT GENERAL FUND THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU'RE FUNDING THAT 1.7 MILLION, IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU A RETURN. 
          IT'S LIKE YOU'RE INVESTING YOUR MONEY. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU A RETURN BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BRING IN MORE BUSINESSES. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE BASEBALL FIELDS. 
          THEY BRING IN SALES TAX REVENUE BECAUSE THEY HATE HOLD TOURNAMENTS OR THE, UH, HOTEL TAX. 
          THEY COME AND SPEND THEY E MONEY. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. 
          I'M LOOKING AT IT AS A, IT'S AN INVESTMENT AND I'M NOT AGAINST THAT. 
          I, I, I LOVE ROSENBERG. 
          I GREW UP HERE. 
          I'VE LEFT MY GARAGE DOOR OPEN AND NOTHING'S MISSING. 
          SO I, I DON'T MIND, I WANNA KEEP THAT SAFE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE WANT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT IF WE DO IT THROUGH CHIEF WEISS BUDGET AT EVERY YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO THAT 500,000 THAT YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING. 
          'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ALL OF IT. 
          YOU SAID WE ONLY NEED 500, BUT THE LAW SAYS YOU GOTTA TAKE 1.7. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. 
          I DON'T MIND FUNDING IT. 
          IF YOU GUYS WOULD SAY, HEY CHIEF, PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR AND WE WILL APPROVE THAT. 
          AND BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT MONEY BACK THROUGH THE RDC 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN BUSINESSES. 
          UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE SALES TAX IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT. 
          LET, LET ME ASK THIS. 
          OKAY, SO RDC BRINGS BUSINESSES, WELL HOW MUCH BUSINESS CAN THEY BRING WHEN JUST BRAS TOWN CENTER ALONE? I THINK JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY. 
          THERE'S SOME KIND OF THEFT THERE. 
          JUST ABOUT RIGHT. 
          SOME WOULD YOU SAY? I'M SURE THERE 
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IS. 
          WHETHER THEY SEE IT OR THEY GOT THERE, THEY HIT THE FREEWAY, THEY'RE GONE AND THEY'RE NEVER SEEN. 
          THAT'S WHY WE APPROVED ALL THOSE FLOCKS, UH, CAMERAS. 
          AND THOSE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO,  OKAY, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S ASK ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN, CAN, CAN THE, IS THERE ANY WAY THE RDC LEGALLY CAN, UH, WE CAN LEGALLY TRANSFER SOME RDC MONEY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS MECHANISM? CAN WE AVOID THIS DRAMA? I DON'T REALLY THINK IT WOULD FIT THROUGH ANY OF THE CATEGORIES THAT THE RDC CAN LEGALLY FUND. 
          UM, I, I THINK, NO, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT REALLOCATING FUNDS. 
          YES. 
          UH, CAN IT GO DIRECTLY FROM THE RDC TO FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? KNOW, UH, THE LAW WON'T ALLOW FOR THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, LET ME, LET ME MAKE ANOTHER, I I GOT AN IDEA. 
          HANG ON. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE TO LET, I AGREE FELIX TALK, BUT I WANNA RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT, WELL, LET ME FORGET ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'LL WRITE IT DOWN. 
          'CAUSE I CAN'T, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER MY OWN STUFF. 
          , IN FACT, LET ME GET, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          WE NEED TO WRITE DOWN OUR STUFF SO WE CAN KICK IT OUT. 
          SO LET, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          LET, LET JUST WRITE YOUR DEAL DOWN. 
          LEMME TELL 'EM. 
          UH, BUT ONE, ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THE BALLPARK. 
          SO FELIX, I MEAN, HECTOR, WE HAVE A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN RDC. 
          WE HAVE A PARK DEDICATION FUND WE CAN GET MONEY OUT OF. 
          THAT'S WHERE I WAS AL ALSO, ALSO THE HOT FUND. 
          WE CAN GET HOT FUNDS OUT THERE. 
          IT'S YES. 
          OH YEAH, SURE. 
          ESPECIALLY THOSE BIG TOURNAMENTS. 
          THOSE BIG TOURNAMENTS GENERATE, BRING PEOPLE HERE. 
          UM, PROBABLY CRIME TICKET. 
          AND THEN, UH, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID USING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT E EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT, UH, STATUTORILY LIMITED TO WE, WE WANT TO DO. 
          BUT, UM, LET'S, FELIX, DO YOU MIND, LET'S FELIX GO AND WRITE DOWN YOUR THOUGHT. 
          PAPAS ON NO, FELIX, NO. 
          LET, FELIX LET'S LET FELIX, FELIX, WE'RE SORRY THAT WE HAVE NOT LET YOU TALK. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOR THIS? YEAH. 
          OH, WELL, RI WOULD'VE LOVED FOR IT TO BE FROM ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER BUCKET, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, I'M FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OFFICERS AND ALL. 
          BUT ONE OF MY THINGS IS, UH, RDC DOES GREAT THINGS. 
          YOU KNOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT DOES GREAT THINGS. 
          BUT WHAT IS A CITY FULL OF BUSINESSES IF THEY HAVE NO OFFICERS TO DEFEND THEM, TO PROTECT THEM? UM, I, I'M SURE, UM, BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO, IF THEY SEE THE LACK OF, OF FUNDING FOR THE OFFICERS, OF COURSE THE, THE FUGITIVES ARE GONNA COME HERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA ATTACK THESE SMALL BUSINESSES OR THE BUSINESSES AND UH, UH, I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE A GREAT WAY TO FUND THE, THE OFFICERS. 
          UM, OTHER THING WAS, UM, ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS WAS IF WE, IF THIS THING WERE TO PASS, WHAT IS THE MAJOR, I GUESS THE, THE DELAY OR, OR WHAT PROJECT IS GONNA GET DELAYED OR CANCELED IF THIS APP IS APPROVED? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I WAS GONNA ASK, YOU MENTIONED THINGS COULD, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU GOT $10 MILLION IN THE BANK NOW, BUT BEFORE YOU AN MY QUESTION IS HIS QUESTION. 
          TELL US SPECIFICALLY IF THIS WAS ENACTED, WHAT IT'S GONNA JEOPARDIZE, BUT RIGHT. 
          YOU WRITE THAT UP TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO, IT CAN'T BE A HYPOTHETICAL BUSINESS THAT MIGHT COME HERE SOMEDAY. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, BE VERY SPECIFIC. 
          I I DON'T THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE CAN EVEN ANSWER AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S, I LIKE THAT ANSWER. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER BECAUSE I THINK WE DON'T, DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          IT REQUIRES SPECULATION AFFECTS THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE THIS DISTRICT, ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IS YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP A PLAN. 
          SO I HAVEN'T HEARD, AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND. 
          WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THIS MONEY? YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS. 
          SO WHAT IS OUR PLAN? WELL, IT SAYS CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH TECHNOLOGY. 
          BUT YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN. 
          AM I CORRECT, BRANDON? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE YOU DO. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD COME UP WITH A, A, A PROPOSED PLAN AND PROPOSED TAX AMOUNT. 
          I, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS THE PLAN. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT GOES TO THE VOTERS. 
          IS THE PLAN A NEW PROGRAM? IS THE PLAN SOMETHING NEW? OR IS THE PLAN TO PAY OUR CURRENT BUDGET? THE PLAN CAN HELP PAY PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET BECAUSE YOUR FUNDING, THE COMMITTEE WOULD SAY, OKAY, I WANNA, UH, FUND SOME OF THE SALARIES, FUND CARS, FUND VEHICLES, GUNS, WHATEVER, UM, ONE ISSUE. 
          AND YOU FUND SALARIES THROUGH THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          YES. 
          ONE, ONE ISSUE THAT I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE RAISED IS WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I DO THINK PEOPLE HAVE ISSUE WITH IT BEING MADE UP OF COUNCIL. 
          I THINK IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE AND MONEY BEING SPENT, THEY WANT IT TO BE MADE UP OF CITIZENS, MORE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT. 
          THAT WILL BE A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN US, THAT'LL BE A COUNCIL 
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DECISION. 
          BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. 
          SO LET'S DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO, UM, CAN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION? SURE. 
          WHAT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS? IS THERE, IS THERE ONE CHOOSE A SIDE. 
          . 
          I MEAN, MY OPINION IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GENERATE ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE CITY. 
          IT'S SIMPLY MOVING MONEY AROUND. 
          I THINK, I MEAN, RDC HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          I THINK THEY SPEND THE MONEY VERY WISELY. 
          THEY, THEY BRING BUSINESSES TO THE CITY. 
          THEY FUND THESE VERY IMPORTANT CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A FUNCTION OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UM, BUT IN MY OPINION, THAT IS A GENERAL FUND FUNCTION AND WE NEED TO FIT THAT EXPENSE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND EARLIER JESSICA ASKED, UM, DOES CUTTING THE TAX RATE AFFECT THIS? AND, AND, AND I I DON'T WANNA BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE JUST CUT THE TAX RATE AND, AND TOOK 1.5 MILLION OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR 1.7 MILLION TO BE TAKEN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO I THINK CUTTING THE TAX RATE DOES, UM, AFFECT THIS AND, AND HAS CREATED THIS ISSUE OF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T CUT THE TAX RATE, BUT MAYBE WE CUT IT TOO MUCH. 
          Y'ALL ARE SAYING WE ONLY NEED A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          OKAY. 
          A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ISN'T EVEN A HALF A CENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO IF WE WOULD'VE SAVED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, WE COULD FUND WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO FUND WITH THIS EXTRA HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          WHAT, WHAT FUND BALANCE WOULD, UH, WOULD SUBTRACT THIS ONE POINT? WELL, NO, THEY ONLY NEED 500. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          I KNOW. 
          BUT SHE'S SAYING AS IF, IF THIS WERE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. 
          'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. 
          THIS IS AS IF THIS IS GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY DEDUCT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE PROCEEDS HERE. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CURRENT ASSETS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THIS WERE APPROVED, THAT WE GO TO THE RDC AND WE ASK THEM TO WRITE A CHECK FOR $1.7 MILLION IMMEDIATELY? NO. 
          NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S HOW IT SOUNDED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE. 
          ALSO, YOU SAID YOU ASKED THE STAFF MEMBER, WHAT DOES THE STAFF THINK? WELL, SHE IS ONE, LET'S TALK TO ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER. 
          CHIEF, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE? LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL, LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING. 
          EVERYONE'S THE, THE NUMBER 500,000 KEEPS COMING UP. 
          THAT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 
          THAT WASN'T EVEN, THAT WAS A NUMBER WE WERE SETTING AS A BASELINE TO SAY, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE ASK FOR THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T ATTACHED TO ANYTHING. 
          'CAUSE I HADN'T, WE HADN'T HAD ANY ESTIMATES ON ANYTHING. 
          SO, WELL, I THINK THAT NUMBER WAS JUST, UH, MADE UP. 
          BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT CONFUSED. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT WE NEED 1.7 MILLION IS BECAUSE THERE'S A STATUTORY MINIMUM. 
          YES. 
          SO 1.7 MILLION IS ALSO KIND OF A MADE UP NUMBER. 
          'CAUSE IT'S JUST A STATUTORY MINIMUM IN ORDER FOR US TO USE THE RDC FUNDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL THAT'S, IT'S THE STATUTORY MINIMUM THAT YOU CAN ADOPT TO CREATE THIS PROJECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT. 
          THAT'S JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CORRECT. 
          FOR THE, AND SO IF YOU DO ADOPT THAT TAX, THAT MONEY IS THEN EARMARKED FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE NEEDED THAT MUCH OR NOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THERE'S A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS YOU CAN SPEND THAT ON PERSONNEL COST. 
          I GOT A QUESTION. 
          SO IF THE, IF THE CITY CAME IN RECEIPTS OF 1.7 AND THEY DIDN'T USE IT, CAN THEY DONATE THAT MONEY TO THE RDC CORPORATION? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IT HAS TO STAY WITHIN THE PROGRAM, BUT IT, IT, IT CAN STILL FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ANY WAY. 
          AND IT TAKES PRESSURE OFF THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH THE RDC CANNOT DO THAT. 
          UH, ONE OTHER POINT HERE, UH, THAT MARY DIDN'T MENTION, AND MARY, I I UNDERSTAND BILLS HAVE TO BE PAID. 
          WE'VE GOT ALL THESE EXPENSES HERE. 
          THIS IS FROM THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          ALL THESE YEAH. 
          FIVE TO 10 YEARS. 
          I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY. 
          I WONDER WHAT THE, UM, SALARIES, UH, EXPENSES WERE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS FOR, FOR THE RDC AS WELL. 
          OUT OF THOSE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          I MEAN THE, THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD CHOKED OUT OF THE PUBLIC. 
          THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD TWO OR THREE PER, TWO OR THREE EMPLOYEES. 
          I BETT THAT HE EQUATES TO A BIG NUMBER AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU I'M SHOWING ANY EMPLOYEES FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          IN THE PAST, RDCS, THERE WAS NO, WELL, OF COURSE THERE WAS NO ADVENT OF AN RDC AND WE'RE ACTING AS IF THIS IS SOME ENTITLEMENT IN OUR SOCIETY THAT WE'VE GOT TO EVEN HAVE AN RDC. 
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AND I'M NOT, NO, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING ABOLISHING THE RDC, BUT LET'S NOT GET TOO RIGHTEOUS. 
          IN, IN 1995, THE VOTERS OF THE CITY VOTED TO PUT A HALF A CENT TO THE RDC. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT EXISTS TODAY. 
          AND IF WE GET, IF WE KEEP PUSHING, PUSHING, PUSHING, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE VOTERS IN 2026 AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S CORRECT. 
          TO ALLOCATE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MONEY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          I WAS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T CREATE IT. 
          STAFF DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS. 
          IT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS 30 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, BRANDON, UM, IF WE WERE TO, LET'S SAY IT DOES PASS FOR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SHUT IT OFF THE NEXT YEAR? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE, HOW IS THERE LIKE A CONTRACT? YOU GOTTA GO BACK TO THE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AGAIN. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YOU COULD START IT AND THEN IF IT, IF THE VOTERS DON'T APPROVE IT, THEN IT WOULD END. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND IF THE VOTERS DON'T APPROVE IT IN, IN THE, ON THE BALLOT, THEN IT'S ALL SQUASHED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WHEN YOU DO TALK CHIEF, COULD YOU, UH, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER AGENCIES THAT DO THIS SAME THING? I, I THINK YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD POINTS BEING BROUGHT UP. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING THAT WOULD NEED TO GO IN PLACE FOR THIS. 
          UM, FROM, FROM ONE SIDE, I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE, THE BENEFITS THAT I SEE IS THAT WE KNOW EVERY YEAR HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AND HOW THAT'S GONNA BE ALLOCATED. 
          THAT WOULD BE UP TO, UM, THE BOARD TO, TO APPROVE THOSE EXPENDITURES. 
          BUT FROM SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN, THEY USE THAT TO RELIEVE THE GENERAL FUND A LITTLE BIT. 
          IT'S NO SECRET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC SAFETY OVERALL IS A HUGE EXPENSE TO THE, TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, SO THIS IS A MECHANISM FOR ME TO LOOK AT AND SAY, THIS ACTUALLY ALLOWS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PLAN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE. 
          WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL, UH, TAX RATE IS SET. 
          SO IF YOU'RE, IF THE BOARD OR WHOEVER THIS WAS MADE UP OF DECIDED NEXT YEAR WE WANNA OFFER SOME RELIEF. 
          SO ANY CARS YOU NEED TO BUY OR ANY, UM, IF YOU NEED TO ADD STAFF, IF YOU NEED TO ADD OFFICERS FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU NEED TO USE THIS FUND TO, TO, UH, FOR THE EXPENSE FOR THAT. 
          OF COURSE, IF THERE'S A REOCCURRING EXPENSE, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S LOOKING AT IT FROM ONE SET. 
          UM, THIS IS A VERY ROBUST, COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION COMPONENT. 
          UH, BUT ALSO THE PLANNING, THE BUDGETING, LIKE WAS MENTIONED, UM, EVERY YEAR THAT BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON HOW THAT'S USED. 
          BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT DO IT. 
          IT'S NOT A NEW CONCEPT. 
          I THINK IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN IT USED. 
          IT CAN BE USED. 
          IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. 
          DO YOU WANT TO USE IT TO REPLACE EXISTING EXPENSES OR DO YOU WANNA USE IT FOR NEW PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE? UM, IT'S REALLY PRETTY OPEN. 
          AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE THAT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD CHIEF WHITE, HOW ARE THE MOTORCYCLES DOING? I MEAN, YOU, WE GOT TWO, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          WE GOT SIX MORE TO GO. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO. 
          THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S NOT THE ITEM. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THOUGHT, THOUGHT I ASKED. 
          UH, HERE IT'S DOING PRETTY GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT, THIS IS A VERY, AGAIN, IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, A LOT OF THOUGHT GOES INTO THAT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO DECIDE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE, IT, LET'S SAY IN THIS EXAMPLE, WE KNOW IT'S 1.7, WELL, EVERY YEAR WE KNOW THERE'S $1.7 MILLION. 
          HOW'S THAT GONNA BE ALLOCATED? CARS, EQUIPMENT, PERSONNEL. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE THEN ALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          DOES THAT MEAN THAT, THAT GOING FORWARD, IF WE DID THIS, THAT IT WOULD REPLACE THE FUNDING THAT YOU GET FROM THE GENERAL FUND? I WOULD THINK SO. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT'S HOW IT WOULD WORK. 
          WOULD THIS PUT POLICE MORE POLICEMEN ON THE STREETS? IT COULD, IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO. 
          UH, IF THAT'S IT, IT'LL HELP WITH POLICE RETENTION CORRECT. 
          AS WELL. 
          WE CAN DO RAISES WITH IT. 
          YES. 
          BUT WHAT YOU WOULD'VE TO THINK ABOUT, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD BE A REOCCURRING ANNUAL, NOT IT. 
          I'M WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU KNOW, NOT TALKING ABOUT A EQUIPMENT OR MORE CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I'M SURE THAT STUFF'S IMPORTANT. 
          BUT MORE POLICEMEN ON THE STREET, MORE DETECTIVES, MORE INVESTIGATORS. 
          THAT, THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE A COMPONENT OF IT. 
          BUT ALL THAT I'VE WORKED AT OTHER COMPANIES, WE HAVE TO BUDGET THAT. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WHAT THE CHIEF IS SAYING, WELL, HE, WE COULD GO, HE COULD GO BACK NEXT YEAR AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA ADD AN EXTRA HALF A MILLION, A MILLION TO DO ALL THESE PROJECTS. 
          WHY GO THROUGH RDC? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          I MEAN, I'M NOT AGAINST THAT. 
          AGAIN, THE ONLY BENEFIT I SEE IS THAT WE WOULD KNOW RIGHT NOW FOR PLANNING, LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, WE WOULD KNOW, HEY, WE HAVE THAT MONEY NEXT YEAR. 
          IT'S SECURED, IT'S GUARANTEED. 
          UNLESS PEOPLE DON'T SHOP IN ROSENBERG ANYMORE. 
          UM, BUT 
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WE COULD SAY THAT'S THERE. 
          WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, TRANSPARENCY. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAX RATE'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THAT IS WELL, AND IT COULD EVEN BE LOWER. 
          MAYBE. 
          SO WHAT, UM, WHAT'S THE BUDGET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, 10 MILLION, 16 MILLION. 
          16 MILLION WITH, UH, THAT'S THE NEW BUDGET WITH DOLLAR INCREASE. 
          CURRENT BUDGET'S. 
          THE CURRENT BUDGET BUDGET, ALRIGHT. 
          16 MILLION. 
          SO THIS WOULD ADD, UH, ROUGHLY 10% TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU, WELL APPLY THAT ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU WOULD, IT COULD ADD POTENTIALLY 10 MORE PERCENT EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE, SIR? IT, IT COULD ALSO TAKE 5% OF THE CURRENT OPERATION BUDGET. 
          OR 7% OR 10%. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO, DO YOU HAVE CHIEF? UH, TOTAL STAFF IS 107. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UM, POLICE, THAT'S JUST STAFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S ENTIRE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY'S POLICE DISPATCH, DISPATCH, CIVILIAN STAFF. 
          AND WE'RE ONLY GROWING, SO WE GOTTA KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH. 
          BUT THE MORE YOU GROW, THE MORE BUSINESS YOU BRING, THE MORE TAX MONEY YOU BRING IN. 
          SO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'M, YEAH. 
          BUT, UH, YEAH, AND I, I RESPECT THAT. 
          AND ALSO WHEN WE HAVE MORE RESIDENTS, THAT'S ALSO MORE MONEY COMING IN AS WELL. 
          BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION THIS IS NOT AN EASY, UH, DECISION AND NOR IS IT AN EASY, UH, ANSWER. 
          UM, SO WELL NOT TO BRING UP OLD STUFF, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THERE BEING MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING WITHIN THE CITY LIMIT. 
          BECAUSE IF WE KEEP LETTING EVERYBODY BUILD OUT AND OR ENCOURAGING, FORCING OR ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD INTO THE E TJ, THIS DOESN'T HELP THIS ISSUE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS OPPOSED TO LETTING BUILDERS GO BUILD IN THE E TJ. 
          'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEN THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONTRIBUTING. 
          DEPENDS WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING. 
          WELL, HOW HOUSES OR WHATEVER. 
          IF IT'S IN THE ETJ, IT'S NOT REALLY HELPFUL. 
          UM, WELL YEAH, IT IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME AND SPEND, THEY COME IN THE, THEY COME AND SPEND IN THE CITY AND THESE, THIS IS THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          BUT THEY COULD LIVE AND SPEND IN THE CITY. 
          THEY COULD DO BOTH. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THEY LIVE IN THE CITY, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 'EM SERVICES. 
          ONE OF THEM ARE POLICE SERVICES. 
          BUT IF THEY SPEND IN THE CITY AND DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, THEN WE'RE BENEFIC WE'RE BENEFIC BENEFITING STRICTLY FROM, I MEAN, UH, FROM THE SALES TAX. 
          BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY TO, TO RECEIVE THE POLICE SERVICE. 
          I MEAN, THEY CUSTOM THEY GIVE A LOT OF CUSTOMER SERVICE TO PEOPLE FROM HARRIS COUNTY WHO COME AND SHOPLIFT. 
          SO YOU CAN JUST BE HERE WHETHER YOU RESIDE HERE OR NOT, AND BE BOTHERING IN WORKING OUR POLICE. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU'RE, IF YOU, IF VICTIMIZED DIDN KNOW HE HAD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOWN THE BLOCK. 
          IF YOU HAVE A, I SEEN TODAY. 
          IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE VICTIMIZED AND YOU CALL THE POLICE WHEREVER YOU ARE MM-HMM . 
          ANYWAYS. 
          UM, SO THE QUESTION TO THE COUNSEL IS WE'RE GONNA LET, UH, RICHARD, YOU GO AHEAD AND RESTATE OR STATE YOUR, YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OF US TONIGHT. 
          WELL, WE ARE ASKING TO CREATE, ASKING TO SEND TO THE BALLOT, UH, THE ABILITY TO CREATE A-C-C-P-D. 
          AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE FUNDING FROM THE RDC AND GIVE IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THAT MONEY WILL CAN PAY SUPPORT THEM. 
          IT WOULD DIVERT. 
          IT WOULD DIVERT. 
          IT WOULDN'T TAKE IT, IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR ACCOUNT. 
          CURRENT ACCOUNT. 
          OH YEAH, YEAH. 
          IT WOULD DIVERT FUTURE PROCEEDS. 
          UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. 
          IT WOULD PROCEEDS THAT ARE ACQUIRED THROUGH VOLUNTARY SALES TAX AND, AND THE NOT PROPERTY TAXES. 
          RDC IS GREAT. 
          THEY'RE WONDERFUL. 
          THEY BRING US REVENUE, BUT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS. 
          THEY, IF THEY, IF IT VANISHED RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT. 
          BUT THAT MONEY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HAND WILL, WILL BE NOTICED RIGHT AWAY IMMEDIATELY. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE RDC 'CAUSE YOU'RE ARE OUT THERE GIVING ME THAT EYE . 
          NO, NO. 
          GEORGE, YOU'RE UH, YOU'RE ON THE RDC. 
          THIS WOULD, UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE OR ARE YOU, UH, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? DO I HAVE A, YOU WANNA REDUCE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE RDC BRINGS IN TO ALLOCATE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES. 
          IT ALLOWS, IS USED, UH, CONSERVATIVELY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, JESSICA, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU CAN WAIT TILL WE JUST INVOKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PREFERENCE. 
          WELL, THE ONLY 
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THING I WILL SAY, THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY ABOUT IT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT EVEN IF WE VOTE FOR IT TO COME OUTTA THE RDC, IT'S NOT ULTIMATELY UP TO US BECAUSE IT DOES STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS. 
          SO I KIND OF FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE IT'S NOT WHOLLY OUR DECISION. 
          UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. 
          I I BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT REALLY CONCLUSION. 
          YES. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY UP TO US. 
          PEOPLE HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT. 
          SO REALLY THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER WE WANT IT TO COME OUT OF THE RDC OR WHETHER WE WANNA COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANNA PUT IT ON THE BALLOT TO LET PEOPLE DECIDE THAT? YES MA'AM. 
          SO THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL INQUIRY IS DO WE WANNA PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND LET PEOPLE DECIDE THAT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY UP TO US? WELL THAT'S THE TOUGH PART THOUGH. 
          YOU STILL HAVE TO CREATE A BOARD AND ALL THAT. 
          IT, IT, YEAH. 
          BUT THAT WOULD LAST JUST VERY SHORT LIVED. 
          IF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T APPROVE IT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF EFFORT, ENERGY. 
          SOME COULD SAY TROUBLE WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          I MEAN,  YEAH. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE CREATE. 
          THAT'S ALL MIDDLE, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO MISUNDERSTAND THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE VOTING TO TAKE IT OUT, THE RDC OR WE'RE VOTING NOT TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE RDC. 
          WE WOULD BE VOTING TO EITHER LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE THAT OR NOT EVEN GIVE IT TO THEM AT ALL. 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHAT RICHARD AND FELIX ARE, ARE ASKING. 
          AND I'M SORRY IF WE GOT OFF TRACK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE AND WE'RE ALL OPINIONATED AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          UM, TO, TO, SO WHAT RICHARD AND FELIX ARE ASKING IS DO WE WANT TO, ARE WE INTERESTED IN THIS ENOUGH TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP? DO WE, WHICH EVENTUALLY THE STEP WOULD HAVE TO BE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A TONIGHT STEP TO VOTE TO PUT IT ON A BALLOT OR TO JUST VOTE TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP. 
          SO I GOT A, I GOT A QUESTION BEFORE YOU SAY THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA COME OUT AND SAY THAT I THINK, I MEAN, I'M FOR IT. 
          LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M ALL FOR THIS, BUT NOT THROUGH THE RDC 'CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          I THINK THIS IS GONNA HURT FUNDING A BIG GROCERY SUPPLIER. 
          LIKE SOMEBODY WANT ALL THESE CITIZENS WANT. 
          I KNOW THEY WANT SAFETY, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT, THAT IT'S GONNA HURT THE RDC. 
          Y'ALL THINK, OH, 'CAUSE THEY GOT, I KNOW THE PRESIDENT IS ALWAYS WANTING TO HAVE A SAVINGS THERE FOR, FOR AN EMERGENCY. 
          AND IF WE DO THIS, I I THINK IT'S GONNA HURT WHAT WE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, UH, OF A, OF A BIG CHAIN WANTS TO COME TO ROSENBERG. 
          I THINK IT'LL BE HARD FOR US TO SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IT OUTTA GENERAL FUND AND IT'S GONNA REALLY BACKFIRE ON US. 
          THAT'S WHY I SAID IF, IF I'M FOR IT, BUT IN A BUDGET, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE STILL GOING DOWN THE LINE. 
          BUT, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THE NEXT, I MEAN IT, WELL, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN EVEN GET, WE TALK ABOUT HYPOTHETICAL BUSINESSES THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE NO MATTER WHAT. 
          NOTHING'S GONNA STOP 'EM. 
          MAYBE I SHOULD JUST LEAVE AND Y'ALL CALL ME WHEN Y'ALL GET, WHEN Y'ALL GET DONE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE MEETING. 
          WELL THEN HE WOULD, HECTOR WOULD BE IN CHARGE. 
          COUNSEL, ALL DUE RESPECT. 
          UH, I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE BOARD OF LITTLE LEAGUE MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          LONG TIME AGO. 
          FOR WHAT? LITTLE LEAGUE? WELL, THIS NOT ABOUT THE LITTLE LEAGUE, GEORGE. 
          WELL, NO, NO. 
          I JUST, I JUST, JUST THE MONEY. 
          THE MONEY THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THEY BUY EVERYTHING FROM CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, ALL THE UNIFORMS, CAPS, SHOES. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I WANT TO ASK BRANDON, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO TONIGHT OR WHAT DO WE CAN'T DO TONIGHT? IF THE BOARD, IF THE GROUP HERE, IF THERE'S A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WANT TO DO IT. 
          WHAT? SO IF A MAJORITY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL BRING BACK A RESOLUTION FORMALLY PROPOSING THE CCPD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TONIGHT? ANY MOTION? SO, NO, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, IF KNOW IF WE'VE GOT A MAJORITY IN FAVOR, YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD. 
          CONSENSUS WE'LL BRING YES SIR. 
          WE'LL BRING THAT RESOLUTION BACK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AT DECEMBER 2ND. 
          WELL, WE'RE GOING TO, I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THAT CONSENSUS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          AND THE OTHER PART OF THIS TO KEEP US ON TRACK IS AT THAT DECEMBER 2ND MEETING, IF WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE'LL NEED TO APPOINT A BOARD AT THAT SAME MEETING JUST TO PREVENT US FROM GETTING IN A TIMEFRAME. 
          WE'LL SEE IF WE GET THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          IN ORDER TO POINT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU, YOU CAN'T GET A BOARD. 
          SO COUNSEL IS, WHEN COUNSEL PROPOSES IT, YOU THEN HAVE 15, LET'S SEE, UH, YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO APPOINT A TEMPORARY BOARD. 
          UH, AND THEN THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY CALL THE ELECTION. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BOARD TO DO THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT MY, MY CONDITION, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, I'M SORRY. 
          WELL, AGAIN, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT VOTING TO TAKE IT FROM THE RDC OR NOT TAKE IT FROM THE RDC. 
          WE'RE VOTING ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GONNA ALLOW CITIZENS TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. 
          YOU'RE LITERALLY THE 
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LANGUAGE THE STATUTE USES IS COUNSEL PROPOSES THE CCPD. 
          SO COUNSEL TO GO ON THE BALLOT TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I, TO CLARIFY. 
          NOW, JUST WANT CONSIST TO SEE IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED TO GO FURTHER. 
          FELIX, ARE YOU INTERESTED TO GO FURTHER? YES OR NO? YES. 
          STEVE, YES OR NO? YES. 
          HECTOR? YES OR NO? NO. 
          JESSICA, YES OR NO? I WILL CONDITION IT UPON MY PREFERENCE NOT BEING TO HAVE THE COUNCIL SERVICE, THE BOARD. 
          UM, BUT FOR NOW, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          RICHARD? YES OR NO? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GEORGE, YES OR NO? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL BE A YES. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? WE'LL HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE DECEMBER 2ND AGENDA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE NEED A MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AJOUR TO ADJOURN. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY PUSHING OR SAYING GREEN. 
          YES. 
          IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH OR SAY RED. 
          NO.
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