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[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ]
MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW.REVEREND UH, RON FERNANDEZ WITH THE HOUSE APPRAISED COMMUNITY CENTER CHURCH, SIR, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG STAND IF YOU CAN PRAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH THANKFUL HEARTS, GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND SERVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF A NEW YEAR.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY YEAR BRINGS CHALLENGES, TIMES OF UNCERTAINTY, DIFFICULTY, AND CHANGE.
BUT YOU HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL TO CARRY US THROUGH JUST AS YOU HELPED US IN THE PAST.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE STRENGTH, THE PEACE, THE WISDOM AND HEALTH YOU HAVE PROVIDED.
WE BELIEVE YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY WHAT IS NEEDED SO THAT OUR CITY MAY MOVE FORWARD WITH PURPOSE, STABILITY, AND SUCCESS.
LORD, WE PAUSE TO GIVE YOU PRAISE.
YOU ARE WORTHY OF ALL HONOR, AND WE ARE BLESSED WHEN WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY GOOD GIFT AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE COMES FROM YOU.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK FAITHFULLY EACH DAY TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY OF ROSENBERG OPERATES IN A SAFE, HEALTHY, AND ORDERLY MANNER.
BLESS THEIR DEDICATION, THEIR EFFORTS, THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE WELLBEING OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY.
WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON OUR MAYOR AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL.
GRANT THEM WISDOM, DISCERNMENT, INTEGRITY, AND UNITY AS THEY CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.
BLESS THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
STRENGTHEN ALL WHO SUPPORT THE WORK OF CITY LEADERSHIP.
LORD, WE ASK YOU THAT YOU KEEP OUR CITY STRONG AND HEALTHY.
WE PRAY FOR CONTINUED PROGRESS, GROWTH, FRUITFULNESS, AND PROSPERITY.
MAY ROSEN ROSENBERG BE A PLACE OF OPPORTUNITY, SAFETY, AND PEACE FOR ALL WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE.
GUIDE OUR LEADERS AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS TODAY.
HELP THEM TO CHOOSE WHAT IS JUST WHAT IS FAIR, BENEFICIAL FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND MAY THEIR DECISIONS PROMOTE UNITY LONG-TERM GOOD AND THE WELFARE OF ALL.
WE COMMIT THIS MEETING AND THIS CITY INTO YOUR HANDS, TRUSTING YOU FOR GUIDANCE AND BLESSING.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE'LL GET STRAIGHT INTO THE AGENDA.
[ Announcements. ]
I'VE GOT SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN WE WILL SEE IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT MAYBE SHE WILL BE HERE BY THE TIME WE GET TO 'EM.
ALRIGHT, SO TOMORROW, FREE PET VACCINES IN MICROCHIP AT ST.
PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28TH FOR A, A FREE VACCINE MICROCHIP CLINIC.
THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 9:00 AM TO NOON.
PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH IS LOCATED AT 1208 FIFTH STREET IN ROSENBERG.
THIS OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY ONLY TO CITY OF ROSENBERG RICHMOND RESIDENCE.
STATE OF THE CITY IS THIS THURSDAY, DAY AFTER TOMORROW? I HOPE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN MAKE IT.
JUST A REMINDER, IF YOU PURCHASED A TICKET FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS, I LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING YOU THIS THURSDAY, JANUARY 29TH.
WE GET STARTED ABOUT 11:00 AM LUNCH WILL BE, I MEAN 1130 LUNCH WILL BE SERVED AND WE SHOULD BE DONE BY ONE O'CLOCK.
IT'S AT THE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER.
PROCEEDS BENEFIT, UH, OUR BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS AND OUR, UM, ANIMAL SHELTER EFFORTS OR ANIMAL SERVICES, I SHOULD SAY.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS AN ADOPTION EVENT THIS SATURDAY HOLLYWOOD
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FEED ADOPTION EVENT WITH WAIVED ADOPTION FEES FOR JANUARY 30TH.THIS IS IN SUGAR LAND AT HOLLYWOOD FEED.
THIS WAS RESCHEDULED, UH, PROBABLY DUE TO THE COLD.
AND THIS IS FRIDAY, JANUARY THE 30TH, TWO TO 5:00 PM AT THE 13,574 UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD, SUITE 100 IN SUGARLAND.
ALSO SATURDAY EVENING, SIX TO NINE.
DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE SET FOR JANUARY THUR.
UH, FRIDAY AT THE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER.
LAST CALL, THE CITY OF ROSENBERG'S FOURTH ANNUAL DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE RETURNS THIS FRIDAY.
THE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER TICKETS ARE REQUIRED IN ADVANCE.
PLEASE VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV FOR MORE INFORMATION ON HOW TO PURCHASE TICKETS.
THE EMPTY SHELTER PROJECT WILL BE AT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH.
THAT REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN.
BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP, THEY NEED HELP.
UH, THE SHELTER PROJECT TEXAS WILL OFFER FREE SPAY AND NEUTERED SERVICES FOR PET OWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH AT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, LOCATED AT 46 0 1 AIRPORT AVENUE IN ROSENBERG.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT THE SHELTERS FACEBOOKPAGE@FACEBOOK.COM SLASH BIRD SHELTERS.
PETS, WE, SEVERAL FOLKS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THAT EVENT BACK HERE IN ROSENBERG.
THAT IS, EVENTS LIKE THAT ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF TOO MANY UNWANTED ANIMALS.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, I MAYOR, I DO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LOST, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE HOMES AT THE MUSTANG CROSSING APARTMENTS.
THERE WAS A FIRE THERE AT THE MUSTANG CROSSING APARTMENTS.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY DONATIONS, THEN THEY CAN CONTACT ROSENBERG PD AND I THINK RICHMOND PD ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO HELP OUT THE, THE VICTIMS THAT LOST A, YOU KNOW, ALL THEIR STUFF.
SO, MUSTANG CROSSING, IS THAT IN JUST BARELY IN RICHMOND, RIGHT? YEAH, JUST THAT, THAT'S ON MUSTANG DRIVE? YES, SIR.
OKAY, WELL I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT.
HOW MANY FOLKS WERE AFFECTED? UH, I'M NOT TOO SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY, HOW MANY FAMILIES? I THINK.
WELL, ANYWAY, YES, OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO THOSE FOLKS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS? ALRIGHT, WELL WE HOPE EVERYBODY CAN MAKE THE STATE OF THE CITY.
ALL OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A SEAT.
WE GOT ABOUT A 25 MINUTE PROGRAM, WHICH WE WILL REVIEW, UH, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE PAST YEAR AND MENTION A FEW THINGS FOR THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
OH, ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE, AND MARY, YOU ARE HERE AND YOU SIGNED UP.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW OR WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM? ALRIGHT, WHICH ITEMS DID YOU SIGN UP FOR? FOUR.
SO WHEN WE GET TO FOUR, START GETTING FOURS COME ON UP.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU, I'M SORRY, I, I'M, UH, WELL, OMAR'S HERE.
HE WANTS TO, HE WANTS TO READ THE ITEM.
[1. Review and discuss the policy regarding electioneering on City-owned property used as a polling place, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ]
THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER ONE.REVIEW AND DISCUSS POLICY REGARDING ELECTIONEERING ON CITY OWNED PROPERTIES SUCH AS CITY HALL PROPERTY USED AS A POLLING PLAGUES, AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.
UM, YOU WANNA READ THE ITEM OR YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? GO AHEAD.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUESTED MAYOR BEN, TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE EXISTING POLICY REGARDING ELECTIONEERING ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT IS USED AS A POLLING PLACE, RESOLUTION NUMBER R 2 5 55, ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 7TH, 2018.
ESTABLISH THE CITY'S POLICY ON THIS MATTER.
COUNSEL MAY CONSIDER WHETHER THE CURRENT POLICY REMAINS APPROPRIATE OR REVISIONS OR NEEDED.
WHAT WAS, AND THIS, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING IF Y'ALL MAKE CHANGES FOR APPROVAL.
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HERE ON ELECTION DAY AT CITY HALL? YES.SO THE LAST, UH, ELECTION, WE ALL GOT ELECTED MM-HMM
THIS TIME, UH, THERE WAS THE PROHIBITION ABOUT PUTTING T POLES IN THE GROUND MM-HMM
BUT THERE WA IT WAS ALLOWED FOR US TO PUT METAL RODS, WHICH ARE JUST AS DAMAGING AS A T POLE.
SO MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL IS, DO Y'ALL WANT TO GET RID OF METAL RODS? UM, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T DO ANY GOOD.
WE HAD A CANDIDATE PUT SIGNS IN AND IT, AND IT BROKE THE WATER LINE.
UH, SO WE CAN EITHER ALLOW FOR T POLES, WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WE DIDN'T PROHIBIT ALL METAL OBJECTS EXCEPT FOR THE, EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE WIRE H HANGERS, WHICH IS, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO GO WITH THE SMALLER SIGNS.
UM, AND PROHIBIT, UH, POUNDING STAKES OF ANY TYPE, WHETHER IT BE WOOD OR, UM, REBAR OR T POLES.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA, IF, IF YOU HIT A WATER LINE AND IT'S A SATURDAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL THE CREWS IN TO FIX THE WATERLINE.
RICHARD, YOU WORKED FOR THE CITY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T KNOW THAT.
GEORGE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THE UH, I THINK THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAD FOR MAYOR WAS ON THE PREMISES.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAD WAS ON THE PREMISES.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT, BUT WAS JUST THERE.
HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT AT, AT A GAS STATION OR THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY THE CITY PROPERTY.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A VALID QUESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE WE, WE ONLY HAVE AUTHORITY OVER CITY PROPERTIES.
WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO HOW MANY CITY LOCATIONS ARE THERE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE? ONE.
SO DO YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THOSE? WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID WATER LEAKS.
WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID BASICALLY DAMAGING THE CITY PROPERTY.
WELL, MAYOR, WHAT? I MEAN, WE HAD TO HAVE M AND A LEAKS IN, IN THE HISTORY OF VOTING THAT I'VE QUOTED THIS SECOND ONE I KNOW.
WELL, WE'VE HAD TWO SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND OUT HERE.
WELL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT WE DO ALLOW Y'ALL TO PUT YOUR SIGNS UP.
ELECTION DAY ONLY, BUT NOT IN ADVANCE.
SO ANY SIGNS THAT COUNTS AGAINST WHAT THE CURRENT POLICY REQUIRES.
SO IF YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED FOUR SMALL POLITICAL SIGNS, YOU CAN ONLY PUT TWO ON CITY HALL SIDE AND TWO ON THE OTHER SIDE.
YOU CAN'T PUT FOUR ON EACH SIDE.
SO IT DOES TAKE THAT OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET INTO A COUNTY.
BUT CAN THEY PUT ON THAT ONE? WE DON'T HAVE NO, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEM SYSTEM OUT THERE.
SO THEY, I I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S OVER THERE.
WHAT'S THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATION? OH, REMOVED THEM.
NO, NOT I'LL, I'LL GET A CALL IF SOMEONE HAS MORE THAN THE ALLOWANCE.
CHIEF IS GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT ONE NUMBER OF SIGNS AND THEN I HAVE TO GO ASK, UM, THAT CANDIDATE TO REMOVE THEIR SIGNS.
AND YEAH, BECAUSE IT IT DOES, IT WOULD VIOLATE THE, FOR PEOPLE NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR NOT OBSERVING THE REQUEST.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS AVOID WHAT WE HAD LAST TIME.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ONE BEFORE THAT OVER HERE.
AND IT GOT, I REMEMBER THAT IT GOT, UH, KIND OF UGLY WHEN WE WENT TO THE RESCUE OF A COUPLE OF BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OBJECTION WITH THOSE SMALL LITTLE H HANGERS? NO, NOT WITH THOSE.
I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THOSE ARE LIKE THE ONE EIGHT OH YARD, SIX YARD SIGNS.
SO ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.
SO ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH NO TPOS? UH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S DAMAGING OUR, OUR RIGHT.
I MEAN, AND LIKE YOU SAID, ALSO WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IF SOME DAMAGES, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE TRUCKS HERE, THEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT THE VOTING.
SO WE REALLY GOTTA THINK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, AND FOR THOSE THAT I HAVE A SUGGESTION, IF WE DON'T DO IT, IF YOU DAMAGE IT, YOU PAY FOR IT.
SO GET YOUR PLUMBER OUT ON A SATURDAY.
GET YOUR PLUMBER OUT ON A SATURDAY AND UM, WELL, THE CITY CAN FIX IT AND SEND 'EM A BILL THEN.
I I DON'T THINK WE WOULD REALISTICALLY BE ABLE TO COLLECT ON THAT.
DON'T THEY MAKE YOU PAY FOR IT ANYWAY IF YOU OH, OKAY.
BUT WHAT IF PEOPLE JUST DON'T PAY FOR IT? WHICH IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE, SAME THING IF YOU DON'T PAY FOR, THEY DON'T, SHE JUST SAID THEY DON'T.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TICKET, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL.
BUT YOU CAN'T GO TO JAIL, I WOULD IMAGINE FOR NOT PAYING FOR THAT.
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ABOUT THE CROSS THE STREET? ARE WE, DO WE HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE CAN DAMAGE A WATER LINE? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CROSS THE STREET.CAN YOU, IN CASE SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A TPO ACROSS THE STREET, NO HARM? NO.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, IF THERE'S NO, UH, WATER LINES, I, NO, I'M, I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
IF, IF WE CAN WELL, LET'S DO, LET'S DO ONE THING AT A TIME.
SO IS EVERYBODY AGREED TO, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT PERMITTING, UH, T POLES OR ROD IRON OR WRT IRON REBAR OR REBAR? THERE YOU GO.
UM, IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? GET YOUR COLLEAGUE OVER THERE AND ASK HIM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS? NO.
I I, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE PENALTY IS ABOUT THE PENALTY BECAUSE IF, LIKE, LET'S SAY I DID IT, ARE THEY GONNA TELL YOU TO, TO WHATCHA GONNA JUST, IT'S GONNA BE IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO SHE'S THE ENFORCER AND YOU, ALL YOU'RE GONNA DO IS TELL ME TO TAKE IT DOWN.
AND WHAT IF I DON'T, JESSICA ARE, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ANY SIGNS UP AGAINST I'M NOT, I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THE RULE.
ALL I CAN DO IS POLITELY ASK YOU TO, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF OUR POLICY.
UM, AND I JUST KEEP ASKING YOU TO REMOVE IT.
AND THEN IF SOMEONE, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO TOUCH YOUR SIGN, I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S A, A LEAK OR SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSED BY A SIGN, THEN WHAT I NOTIFY UTILITIES ON CALL THAT THERE'S A LEAK.
WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THE SIGN REMOVED? HAVE THE CREWS TO HAVE THE SIGN REMOVED.
I'M NOT GONNA ASK THEM TO CHECK SOMEONE'S SIGN.
WHY IS, WHY NOT BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING LIKE STATE LAW, RIGHT? NO.
WHAT'S THE STATE LAW ON THAT? YOU'RE A CANDIDATE AND YOU DON'T KNOW THIS.
IT'S A, IT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
USING SOCRATIC METHOD HERE I'VE HAD MY SIGN.
I'VE HAD MY SIGNS REMOVED AND OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE HAD THEIR SIGN REMOVED.
YOU GO TO THE FAIRGROUNDS EVEN DURING VOTING AND YOU DON'T PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
NOT ONLY WILL THEY REMOVE YOUR SIGN, THEY WILL KEEP YOUR SIGN.
AND SO THAT'S JUST, IS THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION OR IS THAT THE CITY? THAT IS, THAT'S THEIR RULE.
ETHICS COMMISSION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
ANYWAYS, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
THE POLICY ACTUALLY SAYS PLACEMENT OF SIGNS IN VIOLATION OF THE ABOVE POLICY WILL BE REMOVED BY CITY OF ROSENBERG STAFF PROBLEM RESOLVED.
THAT WAS MY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE I WE'RE MAKING A RULE.
I WANT THERE TO BE A WAY TO ENFORCE IT.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA MAKE RULES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT.
SO, YOUR HONOR, STICKING WITH THE FOUR SMALL SIGNS NO LARGER THAN 18 BY 24, YOU WELL NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO DISCUSSING THAT.
I THINK WE, WE HAD TO GET THE MAIN PART OUT OF THE WAY, WHICH IS THAT H YOU CALL 'EM.
WELL YES, H PULLS THE ONE, I THINK THEY'RE ONE EIGHTH.
THE LIGHT DUTY, UH, METAL HANGER SIGNS ON HEAVY DUTY.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE LIGHT DUTY.
THOSE WITH THE WIND, THEY JUST BEND.
THEY'RE ONE EIGHTH THICK OF RIGHT.
AND IT'S, I THINK JOE'S ISSUE IS MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT'S USED TO ANCHOR IT RATHER THAN THE SIGN.
THOSE, WHEN YOU PUSH WITH YOUR FOOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BREAK A PIPE.
YEAH, BUT UH, I KNOW WHAT YOUR UM, MARY, YOU WANNA SAY HEAVY DUTY? 'CAUSE THERE'S, 'CAUSE I BOUGHT THE HEAVY DUTY.
THAT'S WHY THOSE WERE THE THICK ONES.
THE H AS LONG AS LONG AS WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE GROUND THAT WOULD BREAK THAT YOU HAVE TO USE A HAMMER OR, I MEAN WE DON'T NEED TO COMPLICATE THIS.
IS EVERYBODY HERE? IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT'S NOT PUT OUT A FREAKING CAMPAIGN SIGN? NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M JUST SAYING TO WORD IT SPECIFICALLY.
'CAUSE THE POLICY HAS TO STATE EXACTLY WHAT KIND.
THAT'S, THAT'S I AGREE WITH YEAH.
THAT'S WHY IF YOU SAY LIGHT DUTY AND THEN YOU, THAT'S SOME I MIGHT COME SAY YOU HAVE TO DEFINE IT OR YOU'RE USING A HEAVY DUTY H SIGN AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING AT.
WE JUST NEED, I AGREE WITH THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE JUST NEED TO USE THE RIGHT LANGUAGE SO THAT COME UP WITH IT SO IT'S CLEAR.
SO THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT I'M OVER THE SUGGESTION.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGN.
I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE USED THE HANGUPS TO GATHER, TO ANCHOR IT.
I CAN FIND SOMETHING AND THEN Y'ALL CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT NEXT WEEK BEFORE YOU APPROVE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE WANTING.
JUST PUT THERE HEAVY DUTY, UH, YARD SIGNS.
'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S LIGHT DUTY.
UH, THERE'S LIGHT AND THERE'S HEAVY DUTY.
WELL, IT'S ONLY MAYBE THE MEASUREMENTS.
YEAH, I KNOW IT'S ONLY FOR ONE DAY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, BUT I'VE GOT BOTH.
NOW WHAT IF I, I'VE GOT THE KIND THAT ARE ABOUT THIS BIG AND THEN YOU GOT THE, THE KIND THAT THEY'RE LIKE, LIKE A NEEDLE.
IT MIGHT BE, OR MAYBE LIKE A MEASUREMENT.
IF THERE'S A MEASUREMENT OF SOMEBODY, ANYTHING OVER A HALF INCH AN IN CIRCUM MILLIMETERS AND NO WOODEN AND NO WOODEN STAKES.
'CAUSE THOSE CAN BREAK THE WATER.
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ABOUT NO SIGNS? PERIOD.ONLY MAYBE JUST DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ALL ENVISIONING IS THE YARD SIGN WITH THOSE TEENY TINY FLIMSY WIRE STAKES WIRE AND MAYBE USING WIRES.
IT INCLUDE A MEASUREMENT OF LIKE HOWEVER MANY MILLIMETERS, WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE CAN GET THE DESCRIPTION ON AMAZON OR SOMETHING.
OKAY, WELL THE POLICY ALREADY SAYS USING WIRE STAKES.
SO, BUT WIRE COULD BE ANY DI NO DIAMETER OR DIMENSION WIRE STAKES IS, IT'S, IT'S THE ONES I CAN BRING EXAMPLES.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT I, FOR THE POLICY TO, TO DEFINE IT IN THERE.
I NEED LIKE A SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT OR LIKE IF IT PASSES OR ANYTHING OVER THIS, CONFIRM FOR IT OTHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, A YARD SIGN STAKE.
I WILL BRING, I FIGURE I'LL BRING YOU TWO EXAMPLES AND THEN, THEN WE'LL ALSO, WE'LL ALSO DO A VISUAL OF WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LAWYER TO BREAK THE, I'M SORRY.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHO USUALLY WRITES.
WE'LL NO, I, I DO THINK YOU DO NEED THAT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR.
JUST FORGET, FORGET, FORGET THE WHOLE THING.
I, I, NO, I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT.
WE'RE JUST SAYING BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S PROHIBITED.
WE, IT, EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT.
BECAUSE MAYOR, ONE THING THINKING ABOUT IT, I COULD WELD TWO REBARS, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A, A, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE A, LIKE A WIRE STAKE UHHUH AND IT'S HALF INCH.
SO WE, WE GOTTA COME AT LEAST THREE EIGHT UNDER THREE EIGHT.
WE'VE DONE 22 MINUTES ON THIS.
SO LET'S, UH, WELL IT NEEDED TO BE CLARIFIED.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NUMBER OF SIGNS WE GOT IT.
SO WE CAN BE IN AGREEMENT OF RIGHT NOW THE RULE SAYS TWO LARGE SIGNS, WHICH ARE FOUR BY FOUR, NOT TO EXCEED FOUR BY FOUR.
I THINK MOST EVERYBODY HAS THAT.
AND THEN, UH, FOUR SMALL SIGNS, WHICH ARE YARD SIGNS 18 BY 24.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT AMOUNT? SO HOW MANY CAN YOU PUT 2, 4, 4 AND TWO TOO LARGE? NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOUR.
DANIELLE, CORRECT ME IF WRONG.
LOOK IN YOUR FREAKING PAPERWORK.
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS EITHER OR.
LET'S SAY WE'VE HAD 20 CANDIDATES.
ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD.
I MEAN, I MEAN IT'S ONLY FOR ONE DAY.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? WOULD DO Y'ALL WANT TO ADD OR SUBTRACT? LISTEN, I, I REALLY NEED, WE NEED, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
THEN WE WILL JUST STICK WITH THAT THEN.
ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE HERE.
UM, THEY DON'T WANT US TO PUT 'EM OUT BEFORE FIVE O'CLOCK THE DAY BEFORE, RIGHT? THE DAY BEFORE.
AND THEN PLEASE PICK UP YOUR SIGNS SAME DAY.
WELL IT SAYS THEY GIVE YOU THREE DAYS.
IT'S A LITTLE SOON OFFSITE, BUT HERE, YES, IT'S THREE DAYS AND OFFSITE IS WHAT, 10? YEAH.
AND AND IT'S FINE IF YOU ONLY GOT TWO OR TWO OR THREE SIGNS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN THAT AND IT'S ALWAYS THE GOAL OF A CANDIDATE TO HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE THAN, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE TENTS AND THE CANOPIES.
UM, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LARGER THAN 12 BY 12.
I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A PROBLEM.
AND THE PARKING PLACE, UH, WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH CANDIDATES TAKING UP THE GOOD PARKING PLACE THAT COME THE DAY BEFORE AND PARKED THEIR DEAL AND, AND, AND BLOCK UP.
AND THE, UM, AND I ALMOST GOT INTO AN, IN FACT, WELL, ASKING THEM TO HAVE A LITTLE CONSIDERATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND WE DO HAVE TO, THEY SAID MAKE ME, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SPACES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO DRIVE UP.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, SPACES FOR THOSE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT ON BOTH SIDES.
AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS, AND I THINK THIS IS STATE LAW, THE CITY SECRETARY HAS FINAL WORD ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ELECTION, UH, HERE ON, ON ELECTION DAY.
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THAT'S PRESCRIBED STATUTORILY.SO COUNSEL ME, WE WOULDN'T, BUT WE CAN'T DICTATE TO YOU HOW TO DO WHAT THE LAW PRESCRIBES YOU TO DO STATUTORILY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER CHANGES FOR THIS LOCATION ON NO, I'M GOOD.
ELECTION DAY NOW CAN WE SWAP OUR, UH, DESIGNATED SIGN SPACES? 10 SPACES? YEAH.
OR IF LIKE STEVE GETS A GOOD SPACE AND I GET A SORRY SPACE AND STEVE SAYS I'LL GIVE YOU MINE.
SO, UM, BECAUSE OUR, WE HAVE STAFF THAT WILL GO OUT THERE AND, UM, MARK THE SPACES THE, THAT AFTERNOON SO YOU KNOW WHEN TO WHERE TO START SETTING UP YOUR TENTS.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE NAMES IN THE CORRECT SPOTS, JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE SWITCHING BEFORE THAT.
FRIDAY BEFORE THE ELECTION DAY.
AND Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DANIELLE OR DANIELLE? DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION? NO, SIR.
[2. Review and discuss proposed amendments to the Unified Development Code, Chapter 4, Section 4-67(G), related to residential lot width and Section 4-61(I), Section 4-88, and Section 4-108, related to residential streets' pavement width, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION FOUR DASH 67 G RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL LOT WIDTH AND SECTION FOUR POINT, I'M SORRY, FOUR DASH 61 I SECTION FOUR DASH 88 A SEC.
AND SECTION FOUR DASH 1 0 8 RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL STREETS PAVEMENT WITH AND TAKE ACTION IS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF MOHAMMED.
YOU ALLOW ME TO READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COUNSELOR JESSICA JAR MARINO, TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PROVISIONS OF UN OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCLUDING CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION FOUR DASH 67 G RELATED TO LOT WIDTH AND SECTIONS FOUR DASH 61 I AND FOUR DASH 88 AND FOUR DASH 1 0 8 RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL STREET PAYMENT WIDTH.
AS A REMINDER, COUNSEL APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 46 ON OCTOBER 15TH, 2024.
EFFECTIVELY INCREASING THE MINIMUM SINGLE FAMILY LOT WIDTH FROM 60 TO 70 FEET.
ADDITIONALLY, COUNCIL APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 49 ON OCTOBER 15TH, 2024.
EFFECTIVELY INCREASING THE MINIMUM RESIDENTIAL STREET PAVEMENT WIDTH FROM 30 TO 36.
CITY COUNCIL MAY DISCUSS RESIDENTIAL LOT WIDTHS AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS, PAVEMENT WITH AND DIRECT STAFF AS NECESSARY IF CHANGES ARE RECOMMENDED.
ALRIGHT, I THINK WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS I THINK BEFORE JESSICA, YOU HAVE REQUESTED THIS ITEM.
SO ORIGINALLY WHEN WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE TO DISALLOW ANYTHING LESS THAN 70 FOOT LOTS, I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT ANY BUILDER HAD A DESIRE TO BRING A 70 PLUS PRODUCT TO ROSENBERG CITY LIMIT.
UM, SO I WAS A SOLE HOLDOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH, I, I BELIEVE, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE I WAS THE ONE WHO VOTED AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL.
UM, I WANTED TO ALLOW BUILDERS TO BUILD SOMETHING LESS THAN A 70 FOOT PRODUCT.
UM, AND EVERYBODY VOTED AGAINST ME.
BUT NOW WE'VE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH A BUILDER AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE BUILDER.
IT MIGHT, I DON'T WANT, I FORGET, I THINK IT MIGHT BE D HORTON.
WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING LESS THAN 70 AND DO A LAND SWAP? IS IT DR.
BE HOLMES RA RA? IS THAT D BEEZER BE HOMES? BEEZER.
UM, BUT THAT WAS MY STICKING POINT BACK THEN WHEN I WAS THE ONE WHO STOOD BY MYSELF.
I'M VERY BRAVE AND ALONE TO SAY I WILL STAND AGAINST ANYTHING LESS THAN 70 IF YOU PASS A ORDINANCE THAT ONLY ALLOWS 70 FOOT LOTS.
AND EVERYBODY HERE ON THIS COUNCIL PASSED A HARD AND FAST ORDINANCE THAT THEY ONLY WANTED 70 PLUS LOTS.
AND NOW THAT A BUILDER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT, THEY WANNA LAND SWAP.
THEY WANNA GIVE US SWAMP LAND IN EXCHANGE TO BUILD SOMETHING LESS THAN 70, THEY WANNA NOT PAY CITY TAXES.
AND BILL YOU VERY, AND I'M PROUD OF YOU, BILL, YOU LOWERED THE TAXES TWICE.
THIS BUILDER DOESN'T WANT THEIR BUYERS TO PAY OUR CITY TAX, WHICH IS A VERY REASONABLE AND LOW TAX
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LOWER THAN I WAS EVEN COMFORTABLE WITH THAT FIRST.UM, SO I JUST DON'T AGREE, JUST AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, THAT WE SHOULD GIVE SOME VARIANCE OR LAND SWAP TO A SPECIFIC BUILDER ARBITRARILY.
I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW BUILDERS TO BUILD SOMETHING LESS THAN 70 FEET, THEN WE SHOULD JUST CHANGE THE ORDINANCE BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.
AND, AND NOT BECAUSE WE WANNA AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.
WE DO NOT WANT TO APPEAR THAT WE'RE GIVING FAVORITISM TO ANYBODY.
WE WANNA APPEAR UNBIASED AND UM, FAIR.
SO WE'RE EITHER ALLOWING IT OR NOT.
BUT I DON'T LIKE THE PLAY BY PLAY.
WE GIVE IT TO WHO WE LIKE OR WHO WE WANT.
SO IT'S A FAIR QUESTION, BUT TONIGHT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSION DISCUSSING THE VARIANCE.
YOUR QUESTION IS TO THE COUNCIL, IF THEY WISH TO REDUCE THE STANDARD FROM 70 TO SOMETHING LESS.
RIGHT? BUT THEN THAT, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA PUT IT AT 70, THEN LET IT BE 70.
AND THAT'S MY POINT IS I I WANT IT TO BE A CLEAR CUT BLACK AND WHITE RULE THAT WE APPLY EQUALLY TO EVERYBODY WITHOUT THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.
WELL, BUT YOUR QUESTION I THINK SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING THE COUNCIL FOR TONIGHT? WELL, IF IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO ALLOW SOMETHING LESS THAN 70 FEET, TAKE THAT ORDINANCE AND PUT IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
WELL WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING LESS THAN 70.
WELL, MY POINT IS I WILL BE OPPOSED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME ALL THE TIME TO ANYTHING LESS THAN 70, SO LONG AS THE ORDINANCE SAYS 70 AND UP.
BUT TONIGHT YOU'RE A, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING OR ARE YOU ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL REDUCE THE AMOUNT? WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY JUST BECAUSE IN THE TIME, THE SHORT TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, I'VE SEEN THAT IT IS THE COUNCIL'S INTENT POTENTIALLY TO ALLOW THINGS LESS THAN 70 FEET.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN ALLOW IT.
I DO NOT AGREE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IT FOR JUST ARBITRARILY.
SO I THINK THAT THE REALITY IS THERE'S NOT A BIG MARKET FOR 70 PLUS LOTS IN THE CITY LIMIT OF ROSENBERG.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT THESE BUILDERS ARE ALL GOING TO THE ETJ AND THEY'RE JUST NOT PAYING CITY TAXES, BUT THEY'RE STILL DIALING 9 1 1 OR THEY'RE STILL SHOPLIFTING HERE.
THEY'RE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS HERE AND THEY'RE STILL USING CITY SERVICES.
AND SO I THINK THEY STILL, EVEN IF THEY LIVE IN THE ETJ, THEY STILL PUT A, THEY STILL PUT OUR CITY SERVICES TO USE.
THEY STILL USE OUR TAX FUNDED, YOU KNOW, SERVICES.
UM, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT CONTRIBUTING.
AND THERE'S JUST NOT A MARKET IN ROSENBERG FOR 70 PLUS LOTS.
LET, LET'S POLL THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN REDUCING THE LOT SIZE.
GEORGE, YOU WANNA REDUCE THE LOT SIZE FROM 70 DOWN? RICHARD? I DON'T HECTOR.
UH, I, I I WOULD GO WITH JESSICA BECAUSE WE, WE ARE HAVING ISSUES.
OKAY, LET'S SEE WHAT THE OTHER TWO, HE DIDN'T FINISH WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
CAN I, CAN I FINISH SPEAKING PLEASE? IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
LET'S SEE WHAT FELIX, I JUST WANT THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT JESSICA'S TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE WE SAID WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THESE PROPERTY, UH, THESE LOTS TO 70 SO WE CAN HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT WIGGLE ROOM.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN ANYBODY, UH, A CHANCE TO BUILD A 60 FOOT LOT THAT I'VE SEEN.
STEVE, DO YOU WANNA REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE LOTS? NO, FELIX? UH, NO, BUT I, I I HAD A QUESTION.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TOWARDS PERMANENTLY 70.
WE WON'T TAKE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN 70.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING JESSICA? WELL, I THINK THAT I, I KNOW JUST KIND OF BASED ON SERVING HERE, THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THINGS LESS THAN 70, BUT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT ARBITRARILY.
AS A VARIANCE OR FOR THEIR FRIENDS OR FOR PEOPLE WHO THEY LIKE.
AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A BAD LOOK.
I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE A RULE, THEN WE NEED TO STICK WITH THE RULE.
IF THE RULE IS 70 FOOT LOTS, THEN IT SHOULD BE 70 FOOT LOTS.
SO I LIKE HAVING THIS HERE FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IF LATER THE HAND TRACK COMES BACK UP AND THEY WANNA LAND SWAP OR THEY WANNA BUILD SOMETHING LESS THAN 70, I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD ALL TAKE THE SAME POSITION THAT YOU'RE HELLBENT ON HAVING 70 PLUS LOTS.
SO YOU'RE, I THINK SHE WANTS 70.
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LAND SWAP.WELL IT IS THOUGH BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S RELATED, NOT IT IS RELATED TO THIS.
IF WE WISH TO AMEND THE CURRENT CODE FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN, THAN WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS 70 MOHAMMED, WHAT DOES THE OR CURRENT ORDINANCE SAY? WHAT SIZE? UH, CURRENTLY 77.
RIGHT, BUT BEFORE IT WASN'T THAT.
BUT YOU WANTED TO WHERE WE, WE CANNOT DO VARIANCES RIGHT AT ALL.
WELL, BUT MY POINT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE, THEN MAKE AN ORDINANCE AND THEN LET IT BE 70 PERMANENTLY, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NO INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THE LAW.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT AT PRIOR MEETINGS.
HAVE WE VIOLATED ANY LAWS? NO, BUT WE'VE TABLED, MAYBE TABLED THINGS.
WELL, UM, THAT MIGHT COME BACK.
BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS 70 PLUS LOTS, THEN BE CONSISTENT.
WE HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A, UH, AND I THINK POLICY THAT WE, WE COULD, WE COULD GIVE VARIANCES, BUT WE HAVE NOT GIVEN A VARIANCE.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT BY DOING THIS, WE'RE ALSO CHASING BUILDERS OUT OF THE CITY LIMIT AND WE'RE PUSHING THEM TO THE ETJ AND THEY STILL STRESS OUR BUDGET.
THEY STILL IN A WAY USE OUR SERVICES AND THEY'RE JUST NOT PAYING TAXES.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO EXCUSE FOR THAT.
'CAUSE OUR TAX RATE IS VERY REASONABLE.
SO I JUST THINK THEY, WELL THEY DO COME INTO THE CITY AND SPEND AND THAT'S THE BEST SORT OF, BUT THEY COULD DO BOTH.
BUT THEY COULD TAX TO COLLECT, BUT THEY COULD PAY AND SPEND, THEY COULD DO BOTH.
I THINK WE, WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL AND THAT IS TO LEAVE THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS.
[3. Review and discuss mandatory microchipping for pets in the City, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.REVIEW AND DISCUSS MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING FOR PETS AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF OMAR.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME UP HERE TODAY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS REVIEW AND DISCUSS MANDATORY MICROCHIP FOR THE PETS FOR PETS IN THE CITY AND TAKE ACTION IF NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF AT THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.
THE BOARD DISCUSSED AMENDING CHAPTER FOUR, DIVISION TWO, SECTION FOUR DASH FOUR SIX OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO INCLUDE A SECTION REGARDING THE MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING OF OWN DOGS AND CATS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
COPIES OF THE RED LINE AND CLEAN PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SHOULD THE CITY DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL ON A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
UM, WE'LL LET JESSICA AND OMAR TELL US THE BENEFIT FROM Y'ALL'S SUGGESTION.
WELL, OMAR, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY? 'CAUSE THAT'S A VERY GENERAL, UH, DESCRIPTION.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THE MANDATORY SPAN NEUTER REQUIREMENTS, DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THIS ITEM IS REGARDING THE MANDATORY MICROCHIP.
YEAH, MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF SOMEONE HAS A PET, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT THEY MICROCHIP? CORRECT.
AND, AND SO THAT WOULD BE FOR EVERY PET OWNED BY A PERSON WHO RESIDES IN THE CITY LIMIT? CORRECT.
AND WHAT WOULD BE THE PENALTY FOR FAILURE TO MICROCHIP? UM, THAT CAN BE DECIDED BY THE COUNCIL.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR CURRENT REGISTRATION ORDINANCE.
SO EVERY PET WITHIN THE CITY LIMIT DOES HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE, WITH THE CITY SHELTER.
SO IN LIEU OF A REGISTRATION, WE WOULD BE GOING WITH A MICROCHIP ORDINANCE INSTEAD.
SO THIS WOULD REPLACE THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT? CORRECT.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO THE PETS THAT ARE WALKING AROUND THE STREETS? WHAT I, ARE YOU GONNA MARKETSHIP 'EM AND PUT STREET CAT OR A TRAP CAT? I DON'T KNOW.
SO IT'S FOR, IT WOULD BE FOR OWNED PETS.
SO REGISTRATION IS FOR OWNED PETS.
WELL, SO WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF OWNED PETS AND NOT THE OTHER ANIMALS ON THE STRAI? I MEAN, I'M THINKING WHAT YOU'RE GOING WITH IS, IS TRYING TO FIND WHO OWNS THESE, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE ONES OUT THERE? SO STRAY PETS, WHEN THEY GET PICKED UP AND COME TO THE SHELTER, THEY DO LEAVE WITH A MICROCHIPS.
SO ONCE THEY'RE ADOPTED, OKAY, WHAT THEY, IF YOU, UH, EXCUSE ME TO INTERRUPT, OMAR, WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT TNR THOSE CHIPPED TOO THAT THEY BELONG TO? ROSEBROOK? NO.
WELL YOU NEED TO CHIP THOSE TWO IF YOU NO, THEY'RE NOT OWNED PER CITY ORDINANCE.
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I DISAGREE.IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH CHIPPING THE TNR CATS THOUGH? YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION THOUGH.
SO AGAIN, TNR CATS ARE COMMUNITY CATS.
THOSE ARE CATS THAT LIVE ON THEIR OWN IN THE WILD, ESSENTIALLY.
AND WE DON'T MICROCHIP TR CATS CATS.
BUT IF YOU CHIPPED A, A UH, A TNR CAT, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT IT THAT IT WAS A TNR CAT CAT.
WELL, THEY HAVE THERE, THEY HAVE THE TIP.
MAYOR, CAN WE ASK SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW NO, WE'RE GEORGE, WE HAVE PAID STAFF HERE.
LET'S, LET'S SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GONNA GET COMMENTS FROM, FROM MARY THAT SIGNED UP AND WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT.
WE, WE GOTTA, LET'S, WITH REGARDS TO NUMBER THREE, IT'S NOT CONVOLUTE THIS WITH REGARD TO NUMBER THREE, IF IT'S JUST REPLACING THE CURRENT REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT ONE.
UM, I WAS JUMPING AHEAD TO NUMBER FOUR WHEN I STARTED ASKING YOU QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK WITH REGARDS TO NUMBER THREE, THE MICROCHIPPING, SO LONG AS IT'S REPLACING THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE EXPENSIVE BE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THAT THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT WAS QUITE AFFORDABLE.
UM, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FOR WHAT, WHAT'S THE PRICE, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING THAT? THAT'S WHAT I WANTED OMAR, TO GIVE US THE DISTINCTION OF UM, WHAT'S THE PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING, UM, REGISTRATION, REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT VERSUS WHAT MICROCHIPPING COSTS? IS IT AVAILABLE? I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.
SO CURRENTLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL APPROVED SCHEDULE OF FEES, THE REGISTRATION FEES FOR UM, THE CITY ARE A DOLLAR FOR SPAYED AND NEUTERED ANIMALS VERSUS $10 VERSUS AN UNALTERED ANIMAL.
AS FAR AS MICROCHIPPING GOES, THE CITY RIGHT NOW HAS AN APPROVED SCHEDULE FEES FOR MICROCHIPPING, WHICH IS $20.
THAT CAN BE AMENDED DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL DECIDES.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW THE CHIPS GO, UM, PRICING FOR CHIPS.
WHEN WE PAY FOR THOSE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR BUDGET, UH, A SINGLE CHIP CAN RANGE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO $7.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CLOSER TO, TO $7 FOR THE CHIP ITSELF.
WE BUY THEM IN BULK PRICE BREAK.
WE, THAT IS, THAT IS THE BULK PRICING FOR IT FOR OUR SHELTER.
IT'S GONE UP IN THE LAST TWO, YEAH, TWO, THREE YEARS.
UM, I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU ENFORCE THAT? I MEAN, I'M JUST, BECAUSE LIKE, I KNOW WHEN I HAD MY PETS, I HAD 'EM CHIPPED.
'CAUSE IF I LOST THEM I WANTED TO GET 'EM BACK.
HOW, HOW WOULD, I MEAN WELL, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND YOU, UM, HOW DO THEY CATCH ALL THE SPEEDERS? THEY DON'T, HOW DO THEY CATCH ANYBODY FROM DOING THIS? HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO, YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING.
I I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU HAD A REGISTER.
I HAD A, I'M SITTING IN COUNCIL.
I'M BEING HONEST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROMOTING IT.
I FOUND OUT THAT YOU HAD TO GET A PERMIT FOR YOUR AC UNIT WHEN I, WHEN I SERVED MY FIRST TERM HERE.
HOW DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW THIS? THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING WELL, WE HAVE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING AT BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.
AND WE OFFER, WE HAVE GROUPS OUT HERE.
THESE LADIES ARE MEMBERS OF GROUPS THAT RAISE MONEY, THAT HAVE FREE CHIPPING.
THE CITY HAS FREE CHIPPING FIVE TO $7.
I MEAN, FOLKS DON'T MIND GOING TO RUDY'S AND BUYING BEER AND LOTTERY TICKETS.
I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR, BUT MY, MY HOTEL.
HOW DO, HOW DO YOU PROMOTE IT TO, UH, TO THE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT'LL BE THE WELL, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL THINKS.
YOU KNOW, BUT JESSICA, YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA? YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU ARE.
I DON'T THE BOARD, RIGHT? WELL, I DO NOT, UM, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT IF IT'S JUST REPLACING THE CURRENT, WE DO HAVE A CURRENT REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.
SO IF IT'S JUST REPLACING THAT AND WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE CURRENT REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN PEOPLE, I DON'T WANNA DETER PEOPLE FROM PET OWNERSHIP.
I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE IN PETS AND OWN PETS.
IF THE SHELTER CAN MICROCHIP, LIKE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE DOING.
WE'VE BEEN MICROCHIPPING ANY SHELTER PET AT NO ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR ADOPTION.
UM, OF COURSE THE SHELTER'S DOING THEIR PART, BUT I, I'M WORRYING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GETTING PETS FROM THE SHELTER.
'CAUSE A LOT OF PETS DON'T COME FROM THE ROSENBERG ANIMAL SHELTER.
UM, WE DO OFFER SEVERAL PROGRAMS WHERE WE DO MICROCHIP FOR FREE, FOR EXAMPLE, TOMORROW, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DOING TOMORROW MORNING IS MICRO CHIPPING, VACCINATING PETS FOR FREE.
WE DO THAT QUITE OFTEN ACTUALLY.
AND WE DO HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE AREA AS WELL THAT DO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, UM, FOR FREE OR VERY LOW COST AS WELL.
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AS IT'S JUST REPLACING THE CURRENT REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT AND IT'S NOT A DUAL REQUIREMENT, I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE REASONABLE.UM, AND IT MAY HELP US WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN ANIMALS SHOW UP TO THE SHELTER FOR YOU GUYS TO CONTACT THE OWNER.
SO, BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT, OMAR? DO YOU WANT IT TO REPLACE THE REGISTRATION OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT IN ADDITION TO REGISTRATION? IN OUR CURRENT DRAFT, WE HAVE IT AS A REPLACEMENT FOR REGISTRATION.
LET'S START WITH FELIX AND WE'LL GO UP THE LINE.
FELIX, ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THIS? ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF IT? I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
ALRIGHT, STEVE, UM, COME BACK TO YOU.
ALRIGHT, THE, UH, HECTOR? I'M 50 50 MAYOR.
ALRIGHT, JESSICA, YOU'RE IN FAVOR.
I I COULD LIVE WITH THE I'LL, THIS ONE I CAN LIVE WITH.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE FORCING PEOPLE TO DO ANY SOMETHING THEY MAY, MAY NOT WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, I SHOULD BE EATING BETTER, BUT I DON'T NEED YOU TO COME OR I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO COME TELL ME AND FORCE ME TO, I WOULD RATHER HAVE INCENTIVES THAN MA BEING IT MANDATORY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT BETTER INCENTIVES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT YOU COMMUNICATED, BUT WE HAVE, OKAY, HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON.
WE DO HAVE A CURRENT MANDATORY REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.
LET, LET'S SEE WHAT I JUST FOUND OUT.
GEORGE SAYS, GEORGE, DO YOU WANT REQUIRE A MICRO CHIPPING? THIS IS WHAT THE ANIMAL BOARD IS SUGGESTING.
I'M ALL THE WAY YOU'RE FOR IT.
ANYBODY, EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH THE WE GOT FOUR.
AS LONG AS IT, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A DUAL REQUIREMENT.
AS LONG AS IT REPLACES THE EXISTS.
THAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT FIVE TIMES.
I KNOW, BUT BILL, WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING HERE ON COUNCIL SAYING THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
BUT OMAR, WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS OMAR, WE WANT IT IN PLACE OF REGISTRATION.
MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE REFLECTS THAT.
[4. Review and discuss mandatory spay and neuter requirements for pets in the City, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
IS THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER, HARDER.JESSICA, WHY DON'T YOU, OH, OMAR, YOU READ IT AND THEN JESSICA, YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SAY THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
YOU WILL YOU GIVE IT TO ME? OKAY.
YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR THIS ITEM.
MARY JANSEN, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WE WE WILL BE WATCHING.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR ALL THE UPGRADES THEY'VE DONE FOR THE, UH, SHELTER AND INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES.
BUT WE MUST NOT FORGET ANOTHER KEY ELEMENT, WHICH IS SPAY AND NEUTER.
SPAY AND NEUTER ARE VITAL, SAFE PROCEDURES THAT PROTECT THE PET OVERPOPULATION, PREVENT THOUSANDS OF UNNECESSARY EUTHANASIA CASES IN SHELTERS AND OFFER SIGNIFICANT HEALTH BENEFITS TO ANIMALS SUCH AS REDUCING CANCER RISK AND IMPROVING BEHAVIOR.
BY TAKING THIS RESPONSE RESPONSIBLE STEP, PET OWNERS PREVENT UNWANTED LITTERS, ELIMINATE BEHAVIORS LIKE ROAMING AND FIGHTING AND CONTRIBUTES TO A HEALTHIER, SAFER COMMUNITY FOR ANIMALS AND HUMANS.
IN ADDITION, SPAY AND U PREVENTS MILLIONS OF CATS AND DOGS ENTERING THE SHELTER ANNUALLY IN THE US AND ROUGHLY HALF OR EUTHANIZE DUE TO LAKE OF SPACE.
AND ADOPTERS WITHOUT SPACE SHELTERS ARE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP THE STRAYS THAT ARE ROAMING IN THE COMMUNITIES.
SPAY AND UTERINE IS THE ONLY EFFECTIVE HUMANE METHOD FOR CONTROLLING THE PEP THE POPULATION AND REDUCING THE, UH, CAL THIS CALAMITY.
WHEN A PET OWNER UNDERSTANDS THESE OR HER FEMALE CAT CAN HAVE TWO TO FIVE LITERS A YEAR AND CAN GET PREGNANT AGAIN SHORTLY AFTER GIVING BIRTH.
THE ONLY SOLUTION HERE IS SPAY NEUTER.
SPAY NEUTER IS ALSO A CRUCIAL HELP FOR BENEFIT BENEFITS FOR PETS.
SPAY SPAY A FEMALE ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY OF UTERINE CANCER, REMOVES THE RISK OF UTERINE INFECTIONS AND LOWER THE RISK OF BREAST CANCER.
UTERINE A MALE ELIMINATES THE TEST.
TESTICULAR CANCER REDUCES THE RISK OF POST PROSTRATE DISEASES.
SPAIN UTE PETS ARE LESS LIKELY TO ROAM, REDUCING THE RISK OF BEING HIT BY A CAR, REDUCE AGGRESSION, TERRITORIAL MARKING AND HOWLING LESS STRESS.
THEY ARE NOT LONGER DRIVEN TO LOOK FOR A FEMALE ECON ECONOMICALLY SPAY COSTS, COST OF SURGERY IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE EXPENSE OF RAISING A LEADER OR CARING FOR A PET WITH PRODUCTIVE HEALTH ISSUES.
NOW IT, THIS IS A GREAT, UH, SOLUTION THAT MAYOR HAS COME UP WITH FOR, UH, THIS EVENT.
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SPAY AND NEUTERED IS WONDERFUL FOR ALL THE PET OWNERS IS GREAT AND I I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY APPRECIATES IT, BUT STOP AND THINK, WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT HAVE NO OWNERS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM? DO WE HAVE SOLUTION TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? MAYOR, YOU READ MY MIND.MARY, YOU READ MY MIND ON THAT.
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I GOT HANG HANG ON.
SHE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF HER THREE MINUTES.
ARE YOU DONE? YOU WEREN'T DONE RIGHT? I'M DONE.
I WAS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S LIKE TWO OR THREE CATS ROAMING AROUND AND UM, THERE'S MORE THAN THAT.
I LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW YOU DO MARY, BUT, UM, HOW DO WE HANDLE THOSE THAT, I MEAN, DO WE TAKE 'EM UP THERE AND HAVE 'EM SPAY NEUTERED AND SAY, HEY, PUT 'EM BACK OUT THERE.
MAYOR, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING LIKE WHAT MS. JANSEN SAID ON THE ANIMALS THAT DON'T HAVE A HOME.
IF, IF I KNOW THERE'S ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A HOME.
I MEAN THE, THE Y'ALL ARE CONVOLUTING THINGS.
ARE Y'ALL REFERRING TO THE SPAY AND NEUTER THE FREE DEAL? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? OKAY, THE, THE ITEM, LET ME REREAD THE ITEM HERE.
REVIEW AND DISCUSS MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER REQUIREMENTS.
WOULD YOU READ IT? REVIEW AND DIS OKAY.
REVIEW AND DISCUSS MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER REQUIREMENTS FOR PETS IN THE CITY AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF.
SO WE'RE GONNA HEAR IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES IN THE SUGGESTION.
SO, BUT THEN YOU MENTIONED WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE ISSUE? THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT ALL THE PET OWNERS ARE GOING TO GATHER THEIR ANIMALS AND HAVE SPARE AND NEUTERED.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FREE ROAMING ANIMALS THAT DID NOT HAVE AN OWNER? HOW ARE WE GOING TO BUT YOU DON'T DIMINISH ONE FOR THE OTHER.
YOU DON'T SAY BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS. DON'T HAVE THE BIG SPAY AND NEUTER.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THIS MARY, IN THIS ISSUE, YOU HAVE TO ADOPT OUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPAY AND NEUTER EVENTS.
YOU HAVE TO DO T AND R, YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
AND I UNDERSTAND BUT MY, MY QUESTION TO OURS THAT BE ARE THAT WE ARE DOING A SERVICE FOR THE, UH, PET OWNERS OUT THERE.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY ALL DO.
OKAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT DO NOT HAVE A OWNER THAT KEEP REPRODUCING.
BUT HAS ANYONE SUGGESTED NOT CON TO CONTINUE TO DO TNR WHO IS GOING TO PREP THEM AND TAKE 'EM TO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS TNR IN NUMBER FIVE, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
IT'S IT'S ALSO IN NUMBER FOUR.
I KNOW, BUT MY, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER FOUR THOUGH.
LET, LET'S LET MARY, 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE, THE MEAT OF YOUR CONCERN.
IS THERE SOMEBODY MESSING WITH TNR OR IS THERE SOMETHING
HER CONCERN, I THINK IT'S LIKE MY SAME CONCERN.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF CATS AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, STRAY STRAYS STRAY.
IF I PICK IT UP, TAKE IT TO GO GET BAY NOODLE, WHICH I DON'T MIND DOESN'T BELONG TO ME, BUT IT'S GOT TAKEN CARE OF NOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S THINKING WITH THOSE.
I THINK THERE'S LIKE THREE IN MY STREET.
THAT, UH, THAT I DON'T SEE OWNERS AND I DON'T THINK, I MEAN I THINK ONE OF 'EM IS ALREADY, UH, PREGNANT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER LITTER.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'S THE POINT? SO LET ME ASK THE HOW DO REHANDLE THOSE, LET'S, LET'S ASK.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET SOME CLARITY.
SO OMAR, WE'RE ON NUMBER FOUR AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REVIEWING AND DISCUSSING MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT ARE THE CURRENT MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER REQUIREMENTS FOR PETS IN THE CITY? THERE ARE NO ORDINANCES REQUIRING SPAY AND NEUTER IN THE CITY FOR OWNED ANIMALS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS COMING BETWEEN THE SPEAKER AND COUNCIL RIGHT NOW VERSUS THE SPEAKER IS UNKNOWN, IS DISCUSSING STRAY ANIMALS AND UNKNOWN ANIMALS, WHEREAS THIS ITEM IS SPECIFICALLY TARGETING OWNED PETS.
SO I WANNA BRING IT BACK TO WHAT ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS ABOUT IS OWNED PETS.
AND THAT'S WHERE I GET A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH UNWANTED PETS.
BUT THERE IS ALSO A WORLD THAT WE DON'T GENERALLY DEAL WITH HERE IN THE CITY OF WANT, BUT WE DO, WELL, LET ME FINISH.
YOU NEED TO, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME SAY WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
THERE IS A WORLD OF PETS WHO ARE NOT WANTED, WHO ARE IN OUR SHELTERS, WHO WE CAN'T ADOPT OUT.
BUT THEN THERE ARE ALSO CITIZENS WHO MAY BE HAVING, UH, PURE BRED ANIMALS AND BREEDING PURE BRED ANIMALS THAT THEY SELL FOR PROFIT.
AND I KNOW TO ANIMAL ACTIVISTS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNHEARD OF,
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BUT IT'S A REALITY.SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IMPOSING ON PEOPLE A SPAY AND NEUTERED REQUIREMENT FOR ANIMALS THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY INTEND TO BREED FOR PROFIT? ARE WE OUTLAWING THAT? IS THAT THE INTENT? I THINK THINK IT SHOULD BE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
WELL, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT STRAY ANIMALS IN THIS ITEM.
THIS ITEM IS NOT ABOUT STRAY ANIMALS.
SO WHERE, WHERE, WHERE DO THEY FALL IN IN THIS CATEGORY? I, I, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE STRAYS, THEY DON'T FALL IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
THEY MIGHT FALL IN ITEM NUMBER FIVE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OWNED ANIMALS.
AND THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO OWN PURE BRED ANIMALS WHO ARE REGISTERED AND HAVE PAPERS AND THEY WANT TO BREED AND ARE AS A COUNCIL, AS A GOVERNMENT, ARE WE OUTLAW, ARE WE OUTLAWING THAT ACTIVITY WITH THIS? OKAY, SO BECAUSE THAT'S A BUSINESS VERSUS PEOPLE, I ITEM THINK THIS DOESN'T AFFECT.
I THINK MARY, I THINK YOUR ITEM WHEN YOU, AND YOU DID SIGN UP FOR NUMBER FIVE TOO, SO I DID IT FOR BOTH.
AND I, I'M JUST, I WANT TO ADD THAT MARY, UM, AND CYNTHIA, UH, MAYBE KAREN, UH, YOU DON'T HELP ON T AND R ANYWAY.
SO FOLKS, SO FOLKS THAT DO THAT OR, UH, ACTUALLY DOING US A A A FAVOR.
THEY'RE DOING THANK YOU LADIES.
AND THEY'RE DOING A, A GOOD SERVICE AND UM, WE WANT TO ASSIST THEM.
MICROPHONE, YOU MAY NOT SEE IT.
YOUR MICROPHONE ON MICRO, IT'S ON.
WELL THEN CAN YOU GET UP TO YOUR MIC? SPLIT IT UP FOR HIM? YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT SEE IT.
IT'S A SLOW PROCESS, BUT, UH, BUT, BUT I'VE SEEN IT IN DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE IT DOES REDUCE POPULATION TO, TO THESE ANIMALS.
BUT, UH, THIS ITEM, I BELIEVE IS TO DISCUSS SPAY AND NEUTER REQUIREMENTS FOR PEOPLE.
UH, I THINK THE, I THINK YOUR ITEM, THE NEXT ITEM IS MORE FOR WHAT YOU'RE, SO THIS CATEGORY, THE, THE, UH, LOOSE ANIMALS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE DISREGARD, KICKED OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER KITTENS OR DOG OR PUPPIES.
THEY DON'T FIT IN THIS CATEGORY.
I THINK IT, IT'S MORE UNDER NUMBER FIVE.
I THINK WE WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT.
BUT UNDER ITEM FIVE, THIS IS TO, TO REQUIRE SOMEONE THAT HAS AN ANIMAL AT HOME.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN ANIMAL, DO WE WANT AN ORDINANCE? THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA PULL THE COUNCIL AND SEE THAT WE WANT TO REQUIRE, AND I HOPE THE THE GROUP WANTS TO, 'CAUSE I WANT TO, I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND WE RIGHT NOW SPEND, WHAT'S OUR BUDGET AT ANIMAL SERVICES? $830,000, RIGHT? WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
MUCH OF IT IS ON WILDER OR LOOSE OR FERAL ANIMALS.
UM, AND UM, SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO GET, WE SHOULDN'T GET INVOLVED BECAUSE IT'S FREEDOM OF THIS AND THAT, OKAY, FINE, BUT WE, WE ARE ENGULFED IN THIS ISSUE.
BUT BILL, BUT BILL, LET ME, LET ME SAY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ENGULFED IN PUREBRED A KC REGISTERED, YOU KNOW, PURINA ONE, UH, DOGS AT THE SHELTER.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S FREEDOM TO BE ENTREPRENEURS AND DO WHAT THEY DO.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE CONDUCTING A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.
I I, NOT THAT I'M SAYING I'M FOR BREEDING ANIMALS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE BOTH BEEN AGAINST BIG GOVERNMENT AND WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH STRAYS AND DOGS AND CATS WHO ARE RECKLESSLY JUST LEFT IN THE STREETS TO BREED, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTION.
BUT MY CONCERN IS WHAT IF SOMEBODY, AND IT'S NOT ME AND IT'S NOT YOU, WE CAN FIND EXEMPTIONS TO NO, NO, BUT WHAT I'M NOT, WHAT I'M NOT, WHAT I'M NOT WANTING TO DO IS TO DISEMPOWER PEOPLE TO RUN A BUSINESS.
AND AS A GOVERNMENT, I DON'T, DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD IMPEDE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO RUN A BUSINESS.
AND WHAT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S JESSICA? WE CAN HAVE AN EXEMPTION FOR BREEDERS.
WE HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR BUILDERS AND WE CAN HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR BREEDERS.
WE CAN HAVE, WE HAVE A VARIANCE PROCESS FOR THAT.
WELL, IT SHOULDN'T BE A VARIANCE.
IT SHOULD BE WELL THOUGHT OUT.
JUST OUR ORDINANCES ARE FULL OF EXCEPTIONS.
THIS IS NOT JUST FOR BUILDERS OR THIS AND THAT.
WE DON'T WANNA STOP PROGRESS BECAUSE WE MAY OR MAY NOT.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S PULL THE COUNT.
WELL, WELL, I'LL FINISH SAYING WHAT I WAS SAYING AND I THINK THAT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIG GOVERNMENT, AND FOR THAT REASON
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I THINK IT'S WRONG.I'M OPPOSED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, PETS ARE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHERE IT, IT FALLS.
IF YOU'RE BIG GOVERNMENT, GOOD FOR YOU.
SO LET'S POLL THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF THE PA COUNCIL WANTS TO REQUIRE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR ANIMALS.
UH, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT STRAYS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL ANIMALS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL ANIMALS REGARDLESS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF BREEDERS.
NO, WE DIDN'T SAY THAT, JESSICA.
WE'LL, WE WILL, WE CAN DO WHAT Y'ALL WISH TO DO.
LET'S GET PAST FIRST BASE FIRST.
FELIX, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF MANDATING SPAY AND NEUTER FOR ALL ANIMALS IN THIS CITY? YES OR NO? HOLD ON.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR ANIMALS, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF DOING MANDATORY SPAYED NEUTER FOR THE ANIMALS THAT ARE OUT IN THE STREET THAT HAVE NO OWNER.
BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE, THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE FOR THE MOST PART.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I AGREE WITH.
I AGREE WITH, I'M NOT MANDATING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
KEEP IN MIND WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE ANIMALS WITH, WITH THE ANIMAL PROGRAMS. SO IF PEOPLE ARE MANDATING THAT WE TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE ANIMALS, YOU DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, ANY SAFEGUARDS TO, TO, TO STOP THE PROLIFERATION OF THESE ANIMALS? I, I GUESS, UH, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE, UM, SOME PEOPLE ARE AGAINST VACCINES.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA FORCE THEIR KIDS TO HAVE VACCINES, BUT THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO MANDATE PEOPLE TO, TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT IF, IF, UH, UM, ANIMAL CONTROL PICKS UP A, UH, AN ANIMAL AND THERE'S NO OWNER, YEAH, THEY SHOULD SPAY A NEUTER.
IT JUST TO, WELL, LET'S JUST GET CLARIFICATION FROM OMAR.
IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THE PROCESS, SIR? BY LAW, EVERY ANIMAL THAT EXITS OUR SHELTER AFTER BEING PICKED UP AS STRAY IS FIXED.
IT STAYS AT WE DO NOT RELEASE.
YOU DON'T GO BACK AND RELEASE IT.
IF AN ANIMAL IS NOT MICROCHIP, UNLESS IT'S A TNR CAT, THERE IS NO SUCH THAT AS, I THINK THATS WHERE TR THAT'S THE KEY IS STRAY.
SO THAT'S WHERE COUNSELOR VARGAS IS GETTING AT.
I THINK IF, IF, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M, WHEN I SEEN THIS, I WAS LIKE, OH, GREAT, WE'RE GONNA STOP.
WE'RE GONNA HELP THE COMMUNITY NOW WITH THESE, BECAUSE I KNOW AS, AS A HOMEOWNER, I DID MY CAT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, LIKE FELIX SAYING, AND MY THOUGHT IS, OKAY, YOU PICKED THOSE UP, PUT 'EM BACK WHERE THEY, WHERE WE PICKED THEM UP.
NOT AS A TNR, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY FIXED.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY IT KIND OF FREES UP SPACE IN YOUR BUILDING.
THAT'S WHAT I, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE N IN TNR STANDS FOR NEUTER.
BUT TNR DOES NOT APPLY TO OWNED PETS.
BUT TN R IS ONLY FOR CATS, CORRECT? NO, WELL, TO ME IT, TO ME IT SHOULD, IT ONLY APPLIES TO STRAYS.
IF YOU PICK UP A ANIMAL AND IT'S MICROCHIP OMAR, IF YOU PICK UP A MICROCHIP ANIMAL, DON'T YOU JUST CALL THE OWNER? CALL THE OWNER? YEAH.
BUT IF THE OWNER DOES NOT ANSWER AND THEY, THEY SAY WE DON'T WANT IT, YOU JUST SPAY AND NEUTER IT.
IF IT'S ALREADY NEUTERED, THEN NO.
BUT IF IT, BUT IF IT'S NOT NEUTERED BECOMES, WE SHOULD SPAY NEUTER IT.
AFTER IT BECOMES OUR PROPERTY, AFTER THE MANDATORY STRAY HOLD, THAT DOG DOES BECOME OUR PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT IF A PET IS OWNED, I DON'T FAVOR THE GOVERNMENT STEPPING IN.
IF A PET IS OWNED, THAT'S THAT PERSON'S PROPERTY.
JUST SO LET'S SEE WHAT STEVE SAYS.
'CAUSE WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING HERE TONIGHT.
SO I AGREE WITH, I, I, I AGREE WITH JESSICA.
I DON'T THINK ANY OWNER SHOULD BE, UH, MANDATED TO HAVE THEIR, THEIR ANIMALS FIXED.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, HUNTING DOGS, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UM, SPORT DOGS, YOU KNOW, HELL POLICE DOGS.
AND HECTOR, YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE WHAT, THE SUGGESTION AS WELL.
BUT, BUT IF THERE'S A, A WAY TO LIKE WHAT COUNCILOR VARGAS SAID, I WILL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TWEAK THAT AND BRING IT BACK WHERE IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU HANDLE ANIMALS THAT ARE OUT THERE? LIKE SAY IN DISTRICT ONE, I FIND A DOG THAT'S ON THE STREET.
OH, THIS DOESN'T BELONG TO ANYBODY.
SPRAY NEUTER, RELEASE IT, PAY IT, AND TAKE IT BACK TO RELEASE IT BACK TO WHERE I PICKED IT UP.
YEAH, I THINK MAYBE THEY'RE DOING MOST OF THAT ALREADY.
NO, BUT IT STAYS AT THE SHELTER.
WELL, BUT IF I TAKE IT, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, OH, YOU'RE THE OWNER.
THAT'S SHOULDN'T, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE RESPONSIBILITY.
I THINK WHAT C IF I TAKE IT, IT'S WHOLE, IT'S YOUR DOG.
AND I'M LIKE, I THINK COUNSELOR VIN WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT, UH, HE DOESN'T WANT IT TO TAKE ROOM OR TAKE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ROOM AT THE SHELTER.
SO WE SHOULD JUST PUT IT BACK WHERE, OMAR, DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT? CAN YOU DO THAT, OMAR? I'M, I'M ASKING BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S GONNA HELP IF I TAKE A CAT THAT, THAT I CAN PICK UP WITH MY HANDS TO YOU AND SAY, I'M NOT, I DON'T OWN THIS CAT.
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PAID.SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT TNR IS FOR CATS.
IF A CAT IS AN OUTDOOR CAT THAT DOES NOT HAVE A HOME, A FERAL STRAY CAT THAT'S OUTDOORS.
BUT DO YOU DO THAT FOR DOGS TOO? THAT IS NOT A COMMON PRACTICE TO TNR DOGS.
THAT IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
UM, DOGS, THE DOGS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN CATS.
WE KNOW HOW, UH, DOGS, UH, THEY CAN CREATE NUISANCE ISSUES.
UM, DANGER ISSUES, THEY ROAM IN PACKS.
IF I CAN PICK IT UP, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A NUISANCE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT YES, BUT WE CAN'T JUST RELEASE DOGS OUT INTO, BACK INTO THE, THE, THE WILD, ESSENTIALLY.
LIKE I CAN APPRECIATE THAT AS A PET OWNER.
BUT AREN'T, AREN'T THEY, THEY AREN'T THEY LESS VIOLENT ONCE THEY'RE NEUTERED? AND, AND THAT IS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CASE.
THAT IS, YEAH, THAT IS CASE BY CASE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU FIX AN ANIMAL DOES NOT COMPLETELY ALTER, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL DON'T WANT WHAT'S BEING SUGGESTED HERE.
BUT LET'S, AND EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, THE MAJORITY DON'T WANT IT JUST FOR, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT GEORGE SAYS.
DO, DO YOU WANT MANDATORY SPAY AND NEUTER COUNSEL? WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING THAT'S, DO IT ALL.
WELL, I KNOW, BUT ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST SPAY OR NEUTER? MANDATORY.
MAKING IT FOR ALL PETS THAT ARE OWNED.
SO THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS.
THEY DON'T, MORE THAN THE MAJORITY DON'T WANT IT.
I DISAGREE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR THESE ANIMALS.
IF THEY'RE OWNED PETS, THEY HAVE A HOME.
BUT WHEN THEY LET 'EM GO OR LET, THEN THERE'S, THEN THEY'RE STRAY THEN, THEN THEY COULD BE CATEGORIZED AS STRAY.
AND THEN, THEN THAT'S THE CASE.
[5. Review and discuss amending the current Trap-Neuter-Return program to include the requirement of a permit for feeding stray animals, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHERE WE COULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT.IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, AN INVOLVED ISSUE.
REVIEW AND DISCUSS AMENDING THE CURRENT TRAP NEUTER RETURN PRO, UH, PROGRAM TO INCLUDE REQUIREMENT OF A PERMIT FOR FEEDING STRAY ANIMALS AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF.
UH, NOW THIS HAS TO DO WITH A PERMIT.
UM, FOR, FOR I GUESS DOING WHAT YOU DO.
A A A COLONY CAREGIVER WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT.
AND MY QUESTION IS WHY THIS CAREGIVER IS ALREADY ASSISTING THE SHELTER, THE COMMUNITY BY TAKING CARE OF ALL THOSE ANIMALS THAT PEOPLE LEAVE BEHIND.
THEY KICK OUT OR THEY'RE TIRED OF THEM.
SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO IMPOSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THESE CAREGIVERS ALREADY? THEY PROVIDE FOOD FOR, AND VET CARE FOR ALL THESE ANIMALS.
THEY'RE OWN, A LOT OF 'EM ARE OWN, BUT PEOPLE DO NOT TAKE CARE OF PETS.
THEIR PET OWNERS THAT DO NOT TAKE CARE OF THEIR ANIMALS.
THAT'S WHY WE AS A COMMUNITY OUT THERE, HAVE TO FEED THEM.
AND I UNDERSTAND WITH A LOT OF YOU NOT WANTING THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, SEE ALL THOSE ANIMALS OUT THERE SICK, NOT NOT BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY CARING FOR THEM, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO, MARY, CAN I ASK YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE AGAINST THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? I AM.
AND, UM, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GUYS SPEND ON SOME OF A YEARLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING NOW, JUST SOME ESTIMATE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIMME EXACT I STAND NUMBER THREE, $4,000 A YEAR, VET CARE AND FOOD.
HOW MANY THE, THE SHELTER AND, AND I THINK THE SHELTER FOR WHAT THEY DO, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND.
BUT THEY HAVE, UH, WHAT IS IT, THREE, FOUR POUND BAG OF CAT FOOD.
THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A COLONY.
I BUY TWO BAGS OF 36 POUNDS PER TWO MONTHS FOR A COLONY.
SO THEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT THERE EVERY DAY.
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE CANNOT TRAVEL TO GO AND DO THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THOSE KIDS.
SO WHY IMPOSE ANOTHER? WELL, LET'S FIND OUT.
I DIDN'T SUGGEST THIS, UH, OMAR, WHAT, UH, GOT YOUR NAME ON IT, MAYOR? OH, I'M IN THE WRONG ONE.
NO, I THINK YOU'RE NUMBER FIVE.
NO, NO, I'M PRETTY WELL IT SAYS, OH, YOU YOU SEE OMAR? DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WILLIAM BENTON? I'M DOWN.
IT SAYS WILLIAM BENTON RIGHT HERE.
BUT DON'T SAY STUFFY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HECTOR.
I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO ARE WE STARTING WITH HECTOR? GO HECTOR.
WHO, WHERE ARE WE STARTING ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ARE WE COMMENTING? NO, WE'RE GONNA START ON NUMBER FIVE.
YOU WANNA READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? I CAN, YES.
HE'S GONNA READ IT AT THE OCTOBER, UH, AT THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2025 ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.
THE BOARD DISCUSS AMENDING CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLES ONE AND TWO OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ADD STRUCTURE TO THE EXISTING TRAP NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PERMIT FOR THE FEEDING OF STRAY ANIMALS AND PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE CONGREGATION OF ANIMALS.
THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED
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AMENDMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY CAT CARETAKER PROGRAM REQUIRING AN APPLICATION AND CERTIFICATION PROCESS.SHOULD CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE PRESENTED FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL ON A FUTURE CITY AGENDA.
AND MARK, UM, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR, FOR DOING THIS? IS THERE A REASON OR SOME SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX? YES, SIR.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT TNR ORDINANCE, IT IS VERY VAGUE IN TERMS OF HOW TO OPERATE IT.
UM, IT IS VERY HEAVILY FOCUSED ON THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF COMMUNITY CARETAKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IN REALITY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS FOR THOSE COMMUNITY CARETAKERS.
UH, THE OVERALL GOAL OF THIS PROCESS AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS TO ESSENTIALLY TIDY UP THAT COMMUNITY CAT CARE PRO, UM, COMMUNITY CAT CARETAKER PROGRAM.
UM, MOSTLY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR PUBLIC BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE GET THESE CALLS ALL THE TIME.
THEY, UH, THE FEEDING OF THESE ANIMALS, THE STR ANIMALS DOESN'T ONLY ATTRACT CATS.
IT, IT WILL ATTRACT WILD ANIMALS, RACCOONS, POSSUMS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT AGAINST FEEDING CATS, WE ARE AGAINST UNREGULATED FEEDING.
SO IF YOU READ THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO YOU HERE, THE OUTLINES THAT WE WANT TO FOLLOW, THIS WOULD KIND OF JUST ADD SOME RULES AS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE FEEDING CATS DURING CERTAIN HOURS OF THE DAY.
AFTER THAT, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU CLEAN, PICK UP THAT, UM, PICK UP THE LEFTOVER FOOD TO AVOID OTHER ANIMALS FROM COMING IN.
THIS ALSO ENSURES THAT WE CAN KEEP A PROPER LOG ON THOSE COLONIES.
THE WHOLE POINT OF THE TNR PROGRAM IS TO SPAY AND NEUTER THESE CATS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY DO NOT REPRODUCE.
AND IN THEORY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DISAPPEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER REPRODUCING.
SO THE CARE CARETAKER PROGRAM DOES REQUIRE A LOG OF SORTS WHERE YOU HAVE TO LOG ALL THE CATS THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY IN YOUR, IN THAT, IN THAT COLONY, WHETHER IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY OR A DIFFERENT PROPERTY.
WE, WE WANT TO LOG AND SEE THOSE NUMBERS GO DOWN.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CATS ARE BEING FIXED PROPERLY, TRAPPED PROPERLY NEUTERED IN A TIMELY MANNER, AND WE'RE NOT, AND WE'RE NOT JUST COLLECTING MORE CATS, AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU GO ALONG.
SO, SO IT'S A WAY OF COLLECTING DATA TO SEE HOW CORRECT.
SO OMAR, WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE GONE, WHEN THERE'S, WHEN THEY'RE TNR, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GONE? SO NOBODY'S GONNA FEED 'EM THEY DIE AND THEN CALL IT A DAY.
SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM THAT.
SO, SO T-N-R-T-N-R AS YOU, UM, HOPEFULLY WOULD KNOW, IS THAT THE, THE, THE POINT OF A TR CAT IS A CAT THAT'S OUT ON ITS OWN IS NOT OWNED.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO FEND ON ITS, UH, ON ITS FEND, ON ITS OWN FOR SURVIVAL.
THAT'S WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY GO OUT AND PR ON RODENTS ON OTHER, UM, OTHER ANIMALS.
SO IN THEORY, TECHNICALLY THESE CATS ARE SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN.
YOU CAN SUPPLEMENT THEM WITH FEEDING, WHICH IS AGAIN TOTALLY FINE.
UM, BUT IT'S THE UNREGULATED FEEDING THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHERE IT DOES ATTRACT NUISANCE ANIMALS, WHICH CAN CREATE SAFETY PROBLEMS FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WELL, I JUST, I GO BACK TO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF MY KIDS ARE OUTSIDE PLAYING BASKETBALL AND THEY SHARE SOME OF THEIR GOLDFISH WITH THE CAT, ARE THEY VIOLATING THE LAW? I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF GOVERNMENT.
UM, IF THEY'RE FEEDING THEM GOLDFISH, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S, BUT THAT'S FEEDING AN ANIMAL.
I WOULD HAVE TO WORRY LIKE, OH MY GOD, DON'T DO THAT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, UH, THEY SAY THAT THE KIDS, UH, COLONY KIDS ARE WILD COLONY KIDS ARE NOT WILD.
OKAY? THEY, THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY ARE, THEY ADJUST TO THE PERSON WHO IS TAKING CARE OF THEM.
NOW, IF YOU WERE TO COME IN THERE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME TO YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW YOU.
AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE, THAT THESE ANIMALS CAN SURVIVE OUT THERE BY EATING RODENTS.
I EVEN HEARD THAT THEY CAN EAT, UH, UH, CRICKETS.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE CATS LOOKING FOR FOOD.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T FEED THEM, WHAT ARE WE GONNA EXPECT? STAR 'EM TO DEATH.
OKAY, WELL TONIGHT WE'RE DISCUSSING THOUGH, BUT GOOD POINT.
AND YOU'VE DONE THIS FOR YEARS.
SO I CONSIDER, AND I THINK WE DO TOO, THAT YOU ARE AN EXPERT AT THIS.
BUT WHY WOULD WE CHARGE SOMEBODY THAT'S, WE'RE NOT WHO SAID WE'RE GONNA CHARGE 'EM? PERMITS USUALLY COST MONEY.
NO, WE HAVE PERMITS THAT DON'T COST.
IT'S, I LOOKED THROUGH THE PAPERWORK.
YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING A PERMITTING FEE.
SO, BUT I WOULD NOT STILL REQUIRES THAT, THAT A PERSON WOULD MAKE APPLICATION GO THROUGH SOME PROCESS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME DATA TO, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, AND MARY SMART ENOUGH, SHE KNOWS THIS TOO.
DON'T LEAVE OUT EXTRA FOOD FOR SKUNKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I SEE NO HARM IN, IN HAVING, UH, UM, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO PERMITTING FEE AND THEY'RE NOT HASSLED.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO ASSIST THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND THERE'S, SHE'S SPENDING FOUR, FOUR OR $5,000 OF HER OWN MONEY.
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WE NEED TO ASSIST HER.NOT, UH, IMPEDE NOT OBSTRUCT YET.
BUT I, WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT SHE, AS A PERSON WHO DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK IS OPPOSED TO THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT.
I AM OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE THERE'S VERY MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE FEEDING, ARE, UH, TAKING CARE OF, UH, KIDS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT THERE AND GET THIS PERMIT.
BUT BASICALLY, WHO'S GOING TO GATHER THE DATA? ARE YOU GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE AND, AND SEE HOW MANY KIDS THERE ARE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GIVING YOU THE CORRECT DATA? NO.
WHO'S GOING IT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER ON, ON THE DATA.
I THINK HE'S JUST ASKING, GIVE HIM A ROUGH COUNT ON HOW MANY DID LET ME, I DID THAT.
I, I GAVE HIM A LIST OF ALL THE COLONIES THAT WE HAD AND HOW MANY KIDS WE HAD AND THE NAME OF PEOPLE NOT.
SO WHAT IS THE, SO WHAT IS THE, WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? WELL, HOLD ON, LET ME ASK, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
HOW WOULD THE PERMIT BENEFIT YOU? SO YOU CAN TELL ME THIS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE, THE PURPOSE OF A PERMIT IS TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM FEEDING THE CAT POPULATION.
SO THE CATS WOULD DIE OF STARVATION.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT IS INCORRECT.
THE PURPOSE, CORRECT ME OF THE PERMIT IS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT ARE FEEDING CATS ARE DOING IT PROPERLY WITHIN THE, THE GUIDELINES PRESENTED AND, AND WHAT IS PROPERLY DURING CERTAIN HOURS OF THE TIME.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT CAN ALL BE DISCUSSED IN HERE.
UM, AS FAR AS REGULATIONS, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ALL BE A CERTAIN WINDOW, TWO HOUR TIMEFRAME IN THE MORNINGS, TWO HOUR TIMEFRAME IN THE EVENING HAS TO BE CLEANED UP.
UM, BETWEEN, BETWEEN THOSE HOURS, I THINK WE DO A TRAINING 1 0 1.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY FOLKS DO YOU THINK IF THERE CAN BE, THERE MANY PEOPLE DOING THIS? I MEAN, MOST FOLKS ARE NOT GONNA SPEND, RIGHT? HOW MANY? THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT $4,000 OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO DO THIS.
AND, AND, AND I DON'T EXPECT A THANK YOU.
I JUST EXPECT PEOPLE TO RESPECT THOSE ANIMALS THAT DO NOT HAVE A VOICE.
WE, WE MAKE A CHOICE FOR THEM.
YOU, YOU, YOU DIDN'T SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T ALLOW COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
I REMEMBER HOW MANY YOU, SO YOU'RE OUT THERE.
DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY ELSE THAT DOES THIS AROUND HERE BESIDES YES.
HOW MANY, ROUGHLY? JUST ESTIMATE.
I HAVE, I HAVE SIX, FIVE OR SIX SIX COLONIES THAT I HELP WITH FOOD.
AND VE NO, NO, NOT WHO ELSE DOES NUMBER OF COLLEAGUES.
HOW MANY OTHER FOLKS? HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE? LIKE, LIKE, LIKE Y'ALL.
THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR'S ASKING.
THAT'S ABOUT, UH, THAT ACTUALLY, UH, FIGHT AND PROTECT FOR THE ANIMALS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY LOW NUMBER.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT FEED THE ANIMALS ARE THE PEOPLE OR ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON, ON A FIXED INCOME.
THOSE ARE THE ONES WE'RE TAKING CARE OF.
RIGHT? BUT HOW MANY FOLKS ACTUALLY DO LIKE, Y'ALL LIKE WHAT YOU DO ABOUT FIVE, SIX.
AND, AND AT, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND DON'T GET ASSISTANCE, IT, YOU, YOU GET BURNED OUT.
I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH OUT THERE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT IF I HAD A CAT WHEN I STARTED THIS, IF I HAD A FEMALE CAT THAT WAS PREGNANT, I WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT, THAT CAT TO, UH, HAVE AN ABORTION.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AFTER DOING WHAT I DO, I WOULD ALLOW IT BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE CATS.
WHEN YOU SAY NOT GETTING ASSISTANCE, IF THOSE FOLKS THINK THEY'RE NOT GETTING ASSISTANCE FROM OUR SHELTER DIRECTOR, HAVE 'EM CALL ONE OF US.
I I I DON'T JUST SAY THEY'RE NOT GETTING ASSISTANCE BECAUSE, AND I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT A THREE OR FOUR POUND BAG OF FOOD IS NOT GOING TO COVER A COLONY OF 30, 40 CATS.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SOME ASSISTANCE.
I CAN, I CAN, I CAN WORK ON THAT INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, OH, WE'RE NOT HELPING THIS AND THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO THOSE FOLKS, I HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THIS ISSUE.
INSTEAD OF HAVING A PERMIT, WHY DON'T YOU, IF, IF YOU CAN ASSIST HERE, AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM THE NAMES OF THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU GET THOSE FOLKS, THE, THE INFORMATION HERE ABOUT THE SUGGESTIONS TO DO TO YOU AND R THAT DAY, DO A TRAINING 1 0 1.
I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF SAYING WHAT I, MY THOUGHT HERE,
SO MY SUGGESTION IS GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST DON'T LEAVE CAT FOOD OUT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR SKUNKS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO YOU SAID THERE'S FIVE OR SIX OTHER PEOPLE.
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THINK THAT THIS IS, UH, REALLY NEEDED.'CAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE.
I KNOW THERE'S NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA LAY OUT FOUR OR $5,000.
SO YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT.
I AND I, WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ANIMAL CONTROL DIRECTOR.
WE, WE CANNOT, UH, NOT SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENT TO HELP KEEP THIS ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TOTAL JUST CHAOS.
SO ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH, UM, UH, MARY, IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH GETTING OMAR THE NAMES AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF THESE FOLKS AND SEE IF, UH, YOU CAN GET 'EM THE INFORMATION, THE SUGGESTED INFORMATION FOR THOSE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM, AS HECTOR SAID, A LITTLE 1 0 1 ON THIS ISSUE.
AND, UM, IF THOSE FOLKS NEED SOME ASSISTANCE, IF IT DOESN'T BECOME A PROBLEM, WE DON'T WANT FOLKS COMING TO OUR SHELTER GETTING FOOD AND TAKING IT BACK TO WALMART SO THEY CAN, UH, GET, GET REIMBURSEMENT AND GET A REFUND SO THEY CAN BUY CIGARETTES.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DO IS YOU CUT THE, UH, THE BARCODE LABEL.
BUT IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT SUGGESTION? I, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
BUT ONE THING I DO WANNA SAY, AND WHAT OMAR SAID IS LIKE, IF PEOPLE ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M FEEDING SOME CATS AND I GOTTA GO GET A PERMIT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M WITH YOU ON THAT, I'M OKAY, BUT I JUST WANNA, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IF I START FEEDING A CAT RIGHT THERE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I GOTTA GO GET A PERMIT 'CAUSE I DON'T OWN IT.
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S, NAH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
HOW MUCH HUMOR, HOW WOULD YOU EVEN ENFORCE IT? YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE PENALTY? LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO JAIL OVER THIS OR WHAT? SO WE THINK, WE THINK WE, WE, I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT.
SO WE HOPE YOU'RE SATISFIED AND WE HOPE YOU'RE SATISFIED.
ALRIGHT, LAST ITEM, REVIEW AND DISCUSS MS. JOHNSON.
MS. JENSEN, I'M SORRY, WHAT? HECTOR? THANK YOU.
[6. Review and discuss the Animal Control and Shelter monthly reports for November 2025 and December 2025, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
YOU.REVIEW AND DISCUSS ANIMAL CONTROL MONTHLY REPORT FOR 20, UH, NOVEMBER, 2025.
TAKE ACTION AS TO A NECESSARY DIRECT STAFF, OMAR.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS OUR MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE MONTHS OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
WE'LL START OFF WITH NOVEMBER.
COUPLE OF DIFFERENT HAPPY TALES.
LAST NOVEMBER, WE DID HAVE A VERY HUGE RINGWORM OUTBREAK IN OUR SHELTER.
THESE CATS HAD A FUNGAL INFECTION THAT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME TO CURE.
WE HAD 15 CATS PULLED BY ONE RESCUE, AND THEY TOOK CARE OF ALL THAT VETTING FOR THEM.
SO WE WERE WITHOUT CATS FOR QUITE A BIT.
WE ALSO RESCUED THREE DIFFERENT LIZARDS FROM AN ABANDONED STORAGE UNIT HERE OFF OF READING ROAD.
THESE ANIMALS WERE IN THE, IN THE SUMMER, ESSENTIALLY ALL THROUGHOUT SUMMER.
THEY WEREN'T FOUND TILL THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER.
THEY'RE THREE LI THREE LIZARDS IN A STORAGE BUILDING.
HOW DID Y'ALL, VERY LITTLE WATER REPTILES.
HOW DID Y'ALL, HOW DID Y'ALL FIND ANONYMOUS TIP? OKAY.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO, THAT IS CRUEL.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THEY WERE IN THERE? THEY WERE IN THERE FOR A MINIMUM OF 60 DAYS WITHOUT ANY FOOD, WATER ACCESS TO SUNLIGHT ARE THE, WHAT KIND OF LIZARDS ARE THEY? THOSE ARE TEGU.
WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? I'M JUST, I'M JUST SHOPPING SOUTH AMERICA.
DID YOU FIND THE OWNER OF WHO OWNED THE, THE STORAGE UNIT? WE DID, BUT IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING STORY.
THE OWNER OF THE UNIT IS NOT THE OWNER OF THE LIZARDS.
SO ARE, HOW ARE THEY PROTECTED? ARE THEY A PROTECTED SPECIES? NO, THEY, IT'S JUST AN EXOTIC TRADE PET.
ARE THEY STILL HERE OR THEY, NO, THE HOUSTON HUMANE SOCIETY TOOK CUSTO CUSTODY OF THEM AND HAVE SINCE FULLY RECOVERED.
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL UP FOR ADOPTION THROUGH THEM.
HERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT CASES THAT SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY WE'VE HAD GOES TO, TO, TO HELP.
UM, AND ACTUALLY THIS IS MORE OF AN UPDATE.
AFTER WE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION FOR, FOR THE HENDERSON WESTENDORF GRANT, WE WERE AWARDED AGAIN WITH ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY PETS AND, UM, THE SHELTER PETS IN OUR, IN OUR CARE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MEDICAL CARE AND PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY FREE OF CHARGE.
FOR NOVEMBER, OUR INTAKES, WE HAD 67 TOTAL INTAKES, 31 DOGS, 32 CATS, FOUR OTHERS WITH A 99 OUTCOMES TOTAL, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD DEAL FOR US.
WE HAD A LOT MORE ANIMALS GO OUT THAN CAME IN.
35 DOGS OUT, 60 CATS OUT, AND FOUR OTHER AS WELL.
WE HAD ZERO DEATHS IN THE SHELTER IN NOVEMBER, WHICH GIVES US A HUNDRED PERCENT LIFE RELEASE RATE FOR THAT ONE.
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UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE OR AM I GOOD TO GO THROUGH DECEMBER? I'M OKAY.WE HAD A TOY DRIVE AND DONATION DRIVE FOR OUR PETS.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT GOODIES FOR OUR ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER.
WE ALSO HAD AN ORGANIZATION OUTTA HOUSTON, UH, NAMED PETS HEAD, WHICH IS A BIG PARTNER OF OURS.
THEY PROVIDED OUR SHELTER WITH SEVERAL DOG, UH, DOGHOUSES FOR, FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER AND JUST FOR OUTDOOR DOGS IN GENERAL.
THESE ARE FOR OWNED PETS AS WELL, SO THAT IT'S SUPPORTED SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTLY.
UM, THEY SAW THAT WE DID SO WELL AND SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS DID BENEFIT FROM THIS, THAT THEY ACTUALLY SENT US ANOTHER SHIPMENT OF HOUSES AS WELL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THESE ARE SOME PICTURES THAT COMMUNITY PET OWNERS SENT US OF THEIR, THEIR DOGS USING THEIR BRAND NEW HOUSES, HAPPY TAILS.
UH, VALENTINO'S, ONE OF OUR VERY LONG-TERM DOGS THAT WE HAD.
HE CAME IN WITH A TERRIBLY BAD COAT, TERRIBLE SKIN INFECTION, AND THROUGH SOME, A LOT OF VETTING AND THROUGH THE CARE OF ONE OF OUR AMAZING FOSTERS, A DOG DID MAKE A FULL RECOVERY AND WAS ADOPTED INTAKES.
WE HAD 63 TOTAL INTAKES FOR DECEMBER 32 DOGS, 29 CATS, TWO OTHERS WITH 62 TOTAL OUTCOMES IN DECEMBER.
34 DOGS, 26 CATS, AND TWO OTHERS AS WELL.
ONE WAS A DOG THAT WAS EUTHANIZED AND SENT, UH, HEAD TO LAB FOR RABIES TESTING.
AND A CAT AS WELL THAT WAS SENT FOR, FOR RABIES TESTING.
IT WAS A FERAL CAT, UM, HAD NO HISTORY.
VACCINATION, ATTACKED A PERSON AND RAN INTO THEIR HOME AND THEY, UH, THEY REQUESTED TESTING FOR RABIES.
WITH THOSE, UM, NUMBERS WE DID ACHIEVE A 97% RELEASE RATE FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR? I DO.
UH, THIS PAST WEEKEND, HOW DO, DID YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, UH, PETS BEING OUTDOORS DUE TO THE CODE? WE HAD A COUPLE OF WELFARE CALLS, BUT ALL THOSE WERE TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, OWNERS WERE TAKING CARE OF THEIR PETS.
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, TO SHELTER OR, UM, FOOD, WATER AS WELL.
I KNOW THIS IS DECEMBER, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS PAST WEEKEND BECAUSE I TOOK IN A STRAY TOOTH.
SO YEAH, WE, WE GOT A LOT BACK.
LOT OF CALLS FOR, UH, UH, NOT TOO MANY CALLS ACTUALLY FOR WELFARE.
BUT THE ONES WE DID CHECK COUNT ON, ALL WERE WITHIN, WITHIN, UM, ORDINANCE.
WE DID ALSO HAVE THAT, THE ORGANIZATION THAT DONATED THE DOGHOUSES AS WELL.
UM, THEY DONATED CRATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR US AS WELL, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THEY HAD A PET AT HOME THAT THEY COULDN'T KEEP INSIDE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS FOR IT.
WE PROVIDED AT LEAST A DOZEN DIFFERENT CA CAGES AND DOG HOUSES AS WELL FOR COMMUNITY OWNED, UH, OWNED PETS.
UM, OUR FOSTERS CAME IN VERY HANDY.
THIS, THIS, DURING THIS FREEZE, UM, OUR SHELTER WAS PRACTICALLY AN EMPTY OF DOGS.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL, ALL BUT SIX DOGS.
AND MOST OF THOSE WERE, UM, BRAND NEW DOGS.
SO THOSE AREN'T ABLE TO GO OUT.
UM, AND OUR SHELTER WAS ESSENTIALLY EMPTY FOR, FOR, FOR A WEEKEND.
UM, THEY'RE SLOWLY COMING BACK 'CAUSE THEY WERE JUST TEMPORARY FOSTERS.
BUT OUR COMMUNITY IS CONTINUING TO HELP US OUT SIGNIFICANTLY.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN A COLD NIGHT TO BE OUT IN THAT.
I AIN'T GONNA SAY BLIZZARD 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T SNOW, BUT IT WAS COLD.
ANYWAY, LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? GEORGE OMAR, CAN YOU ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME? I CAN TRY.
HOW'S THE, UH, THE, THE WATER BILL ATTACHMENT OF THE DONATION TO, HOW WAS IT? DO IT? I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE, TO THOSE, THAT ACCOUNT SIDE.
I GET THE SAME STORY ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T, THAT'S NOT AN ACCOUNT THAT I HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO.
UM, SO CAN YOU GET THE COUNSEL THE ANSWER, NOT THIS MOMENT, BUT COULD YOU LET US KNOW HOW THE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DONATIONS THROUGH YOUR, UH, LADDER BILL AT ATTACH ATTACHMENTS THROUGH YOUR WATER.
ANY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE REPORT? UH, I THINK IT'S FINE.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
JESSICA, HOW ABOUT YOU? NOW YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ANIMAL BOARD.
HOW'S IT GOING ON THE BOARD? I'M THE CHAIRWOMAN.
HECTOR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? NOT ABOUT THE REPORT, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE ANIMAL.
I'M JUST, I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT THESE STRAYS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
LIKE OMAR SAID, DOGS, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE DOGS, BUT THESE CATS THAT IF I TO TAKE ONE, YOU'RE GONNA SAY I OWN IT.
HOW, HOW DO, HOW DOES THE PUBLIC, IF THEY SEE ONE, TAKE IT TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA GET IT SPAYED
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OR NEUTERED, PUT IT BACK WHERE THEY PICKED IT UP.SO FOR, IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC, IF SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ANYBODY, NOT, NOT OUR, OUR LADIES THAT SAY A RESIDENT PICKS IT UP, SAYS, HEY, I FOUND THIS CAT.
I WANNA GET IT SPAYED OR NEUTERED.
WHAT WOULD YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU, IF I WAS, IF I WAS NOT IN COUNSEL AND I GO UP TO THE SHELTER, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ME? WHAT WAS, WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE Y'ALL DO? SO OUR INTAKE PROCEDURE, OBVIOUSLY YOU DO HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.
UM, OKAY, I'M A RESIDENT CAT, DO I OWN IT? BUT I SAID, IF I DON'T OWN, IF IT'S A STRAIGHT CAT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE SHELTER, THERE IS A STRAY, SURRENDER FORM THAT YOU FILL OUT.
THERE'S, IF I, I WANTED FEE, YOU JUST PAID A N AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE POPULATION.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT DEPENDS ON THE CAT.
SO AGAIN, TNR IS RESERVED FOR FERAL, FERAL CATS, UNSOCIALIZED CAT.
BUT IF THIS IS A SOCIAL CAT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN, TYPICALLY WE KEEP FOR THE ADOPTION PROCESS, WHICH MEANS IT GETS FIXED AND PUT INTO THE ADOPTION.
INTO THE ADOPTION ROOM, I THINK, BECAUSE IF NOT, HECTOR, WHO EVERYBODY'S GONNA TAKE THEIR ANIMALS.
AND, AND DO YOU WANT THE CITY? I MEAN, I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE THAT'S WHERE I'M, I I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, WELL, I, WE'RE DOING THAT ALREADY, TRYING TO STOP THIS EPIDEMIC.
IF YOU SAY CALLING ALL PEOPLE, TAKE YOUR ANIMAL TO ROSENBERG, WE'LL PAY FOR IT TO, NO ONE, NO ONE WOULD EVER GET THEIR OWN.
YOU KNOW, NOW THEY'RE HAVING THESE LARGE SPAY AND NEUTER EVENTS AND YOU KNOW, A A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
UM, PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COULD AFFORD TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA DO IT BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMETHING FOR FREE.
IT WILL STILL HELP THE PROCESS.
BUT FRANKLY, I THINK IT COULD BE, UM, IT'S A LITTLE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, I HOPE IT, I HOPE THOSE THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT OR THOSE THAT ARE REALLY, TRULY NEEDY OR STRUGGLING AND NOT JUST GREEDY.
STEVE, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? NO.
THANK YOU OMAR, FOR EVERYTHING.
ALRIGHT, FELIX, UH, NO QUESTIONS.
JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
UH, YOU'RE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
ALRIGHT, THAT WAS OUR LAST QUESTION ON OUR LAST ITEM.
OH, BEFORE YOU DO, DON'T FORGET ABOUT THURSDAYS LUNCHEON AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OH, OH, I MADE IT.
MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A MOTION, RIGHT? I MADE IT.
THIS IS OUR TUESDAY O ONLY VOTE TONIGHT.
PLEASE VOTE IF YOU WISH TO ADJOURN MAYOR'S TOO EARLY.