* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] LET EVERYBODY GET SETTLED UP HERE. [ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ] SO IT IS SIX 30, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. PASTOR LANGI, ARE YOU HERE? YES. WELCOME. WOULD YOU MIND SAYING THE INVOCATION IN THE PLEDGE? THIS IS PASTOR LANGI FROM ST. PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH IN ROSENBERG. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU. WE THANKFUL HEARTS FOR BLESSING US WITH THE GREAT CITY OF ROSENBERG, A PLACE WE ARE PROUD TO CALL OUR HOME. THANK YOU FOR THIS BLESSING AND FOR ALL YOU HAVE PLACED IN POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY, PARTICULARLY OUR MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND CITY STAFF. AS WE COME TOGETHER THIS EVENING, WE EMPLOY YOUR GRACIOUS PRESENCE AMONG US. BLESS ALL GATHERED HERE WITH A SOUND, DISCERNMENT, WISDOM IN DECISION MAKING AND PATIENCE WITH ONE ANOTHER. AND WHEN THIS MEETING IS OVER, PLEASE LEAD EVERYONE SAFELY TO THEIR DESTINATION AND GRANT US ALL A PEACEFUL AND RESTFUL NIGHT. I ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, A AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU PASTOR CLANCHY. THEY ARE HAVING THE STEW SUPPER THIS SATURDAY AT ST. PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH PROCEEDS GO TO THE CONGO MISSION. WHAT TIME DOES THAT START, PASTOR? FOUR O'CLOCK. FOUR TO 6:00 PM FOUR TO SIX. OKAY. I GOT MY TICKETS. ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. TAKE CARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, [ Announcements. ] WE HAVE SEVERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT FIRST WE'LL START WITH ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. Y'ALL GO FIRST IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY. PASS THIS TO JOYCE. DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? ALRIGHT, WELL Y'ALL CAN BE THINKING OF SOME, UM, THE SHELTER PRO EMPTY. THE SHELTER PROJECT IS THIS SATURDAY SEVEN, UH, FEBRUARY 7TH. GET STARTED, I THINK ABOUT 8:00 AM UH, THEY NEED VOLUNTEERS. THIS EVENT IS VERY HELPFUL TO THE CITY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY. UM, AT THIS EVENT, THEY HOPE TO SPAY OR N FIVE TO 700 ANIMALS. AND TO DO THAT MANY ANIMALS, THEY NEED A LOT OF HELP. SO IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE, PLEASE HELP 'EM OUT THIS WEEKEND, IT'LL BE AT GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH. ALL SLOTS FOR OWNED ANIMALS TO BE SPAYED, UH, AND NEUTERED OR FULL. BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP WITH THIS NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY. AND THEY WILL TRAIN YOU ON THE SPOT. THIS WONDERFUL FULL EVENT WILL HELP CURB THE OVERWHELMING PET POPULATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS TO VOLUNTEER. TO SIGN UP, GO TO THE EMPTY SHELTER PROJECT FACEBOOK PAGE AND CLICK ONTO THE VOLUNTEER LINK. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ASSISTANCE, YOU CAN CONTACT CAROLYN SEILER, WHO IS HERE. UM, SHE IS KIND OF THE CONTACT PERSON BETWEEN THE, THE, SHE'S THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE, THE, THE CITY AND THE VOLUNTEERS. SO CONTACT HER, CALL HER, TEXT HER, EMAIL HER, OR YOU CAN MESSENGER VIA FACEBOOK, HER OR OMAR AT THE ROSENBERG ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER. HOW WAS THAT? ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD ADD TO THAT? NO. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. AGAIN, THE PROJECT IS SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7TH, GEORGE JUNIOR HIGH, LOCATED 46 0 1 AIRPORT AVENUE IN ROSENBERG, TRACTOR SUPPLY ADOPTION EVENT. TRACTOR SUPPLY ROSENBERG HAS A ANIMAL ADOPTION EVENT AND THAT IS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH FROM 10:00 AM TO NOON. IT'S NOT VERY LONG AND IT IS THE LOCATION FOR THE TSC OUT ON THE FREEWAY BY, UM, LEGACY FORD PETSMART. ADOPTION EVENTS ALSO HAVE AN ADOPTION EVENT THAT IS SATURDAY, [00:05:01] FEBRUARY 21ST FROM NOON TO 4:00 PM AT PETSMART ADOPTION EVENT, AT ADOPT THE PEST SMART ADOPTION EVENT WITH WAIVED ADOPTION FEES THAT IS LOCATED IN SHORELAND, UH, 16,758 SOUTHWEST FREEWAY IN SHORELAND. ANOTHER SHELTER ADOPTION EVENT THAT WILL BE SATURDAY, UH, FEBRUARY THE 28TH. AND THAT ONE WILL BE AT THE SHELTER. 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM THE ADDRESS, AGAIN, IS LOCATED 1207 BLOOMY ROAD. WE GOTTA REMEMBER THAT WE MUST HAVE THESE ADOPTION EVENTS. UH, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY. THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE RELIEF TO THE SHELTER FOR THE OVERCROWDING SITUATION. SO IT WILL NOT STOP. THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE, JUST REMEMBER, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY, ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE ANIMALS OUTTA THERE. ALRIGHT, FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE FUNNER, THE BEER AND WINE WALK SET FOR MARCH 21ST. HISTORIC DOWNTOWN ROSENBERG, SAVE THE DATE. THE CITY OF ROSENBERG'S FIFTH ANNUAL WINE AND BEER WALK RETURNS. MARCH 21ST FROM NOON TO 5:00 PM IN HIS HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. PLEASE VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV TO PURCHASE TICKETS AND GET SPONSORSHIP INFORMATION OR MORE EVENT DETAILS. ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WISH TO ADD? NOW IS THE TIME. SUPER BOWL IS THIS SUNDAY. HOPE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PATRIOTS ARE GONNA WIN IT AGAIN, IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, TO THE, TO THE MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. [ CONSENT AGENDA ] SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, UM, THE FIRST PART OF THE AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA, SEE IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL DOWN ANYTHING OR ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON ANYTHING. LET'S TAKE A SECOND TO REVIEW. THERE'S NOT A LOT ON THE CONSENT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALRIGHT, BARRING NONE, LET'S GET THE CONSENT AGENDA APPROVED SO WE CAN GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. HECTOR HAS MADE THE MOTION. JESSICA HAS SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSH OR SAY YES. ALRIGHT. GOTTA GET JESSICA, IS YOUR BUTTON WORKING? GEORGE. ALRIGHT. IT'S, IT'S UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT, [2. Review and discuss the Schedule of Fees related to light and heavy duty tows fees for towing services for non-consent tows, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Jonathan White, Police Chief) ] WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, THE REGULAR LER. AND WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR THIS. NOW. THIS IS TO ADJUST, UH, THE SCHEDULE OF FEES RELATED TO LIGHT AND HEAVY DUTY TOWS, TOW FEES FOR, UH, TOWING SERVICES, FOR NON-CONSENT TOWS, AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY. WE DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND. WE'LL PREFACE IT. UH, MAYBE CHIEF WILL ADD, WE'LL JUST SAY, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THESE FEES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED? CHIEF? UH, SINCE 2015. 2015. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE. NATURALLY THINGS HAVE GONE UP A LOT. 11 YEARS. 11 YEARS. SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR. BUT DO Y'ALL WISH TO SPEAK BEFORE OR AFTER? THE CHIEF GIVES A LITTLE NARRATION OF THE DEAL. DO AFTER. THAT'S GOOD. 'CAUSE THAT WAY THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT HE SAYS THAT YOU WANT CLARIFICATION ON. SO CHIEF, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND WE'LL GET INTO THE, GET INTO THE ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR FELIX VARGAS. TO ALLOW THE CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE SCHEDULE OF FEES RELATED TO LIGHT AND HEAVY DUTY TOWING SERVICES FOR NON-CONSENT TOES. ON OCTOBER 20TH, 2015, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER R 2 0 4 0, ESTABLISHING A FEE SCHEDULE FOR PERMITTING OF TOW TRUCKS AND TOWING COMPANIES PERFORMING NON-CONSENT TOWS. THE RELATED RESOLUTION AND MINUTE EXCERPT NOT INCLUDED WITH THIS ITEM AND ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. THE CURRENT FEES ARE AS FOLLOWS. FOR A LIGHT DUTY, UH, TOW, IT'S $200 AND A HUNDRED DOLLARS EXTRA FOR A SECOND UNIT, $3 AND 50 CENTS A MILE AFTER FIVE MILES AND A WINCHING [00:10:01] FEE OF $50. AND FOR THE HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS, IT'S $400 AN HOUR WITH A TWO HOUR MINIMUM. UH, FOR A SECOND UNIT IT'S $400 AN HOUR WITH A ONE HOUR MINIMUM AND $3 AND 50 CENTS A MILE AFTER FIVE MILES. A COPY OF THE 2026 FEE STUDY AND PROPOSED FEES IS PROVIDED UNDER SEPARATE COVER. STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL REGARDING LIGHT AND HEAVY DUTY TOW FEES. OKAY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S HEAR FROM OUR, UH, SPEAKERS. UM, ALSO, BEFORE WE DO, HAVE Y'ALL BEEN PROVIDED WITH THIS, I'M GONNA GIVE THIS, GIVE YOU MY COPY AND YOU LOOK AT IT WHILE, UH, LET'S SEE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST? . OKAY, LET ME GIVE THIS TO YOU AND WE WILL TAKE A SECOND. UH, AND THEN IF YOU WANT, GO FIRST, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO WRITE WITH? WE'LL MAKE SOME NOTES. I YOU HAVE IT IN THERE. I WANNA, LET ME ASK, I THOUGHT I SAW OFFICER ROGERS HERE EARLIER, MAYBE HE CAME AND WENT. HE'S HERE. LIEUTENANT ROGERS AND SERGEANT STROUD ARE BOTH HERE. OH, THERE THEY ARE. OKAY. YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED IN OUR, UH, RECORD PROGRAM. SO WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING OVER THIS, THIS, UM, THAT Y'ALL GAVE US, UH, JT SO, SO LET ME, UH, I WOULD ASK THE CHIEF TO GET US OUT FOR THIS. YES. OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND ONE OF THE REASONS, MAYOR, UH, SINCE THEY'RE GOING OVER THAT AND BEFORE, I MEAN, IN THE PAST I'VE SEEN THESE GUYS, NOT THESE GUYS PERSONALLY, BUT ARE SOME TOLL SERVICES IN DIFFERENT CITIES GOING REAL FAST TO THE SCENE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WHEN I SEEN THIS ON THE AGENDA, THAT THAT MADE A LIGHT BULB IN MY HEAD SAID, OKAY, LET'S THAT BE EXACTLY. SO I WAS PROPOSING MAYBE INCREASING THIS, UM, THIS TIME FOR THESE, GIVE THESE GUYS SOME MORE TIME TO GET TO THE, TO THE SCENE. THAT WAY THEY, THEY WON'T, WON'T HAVE TO RUSH SO FAST. I DON'T KNOW. I I MEAN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT THAT I GOT AND SEE IF YOU GUYS WERE FOR IT. IT JUST, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT INCREASING IT FIVE MORE MINUTES? I'M, I'M OKAY. I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, UM, WE'RE DOING 2030 OR WE CAN MEET IN THE MIDDLE 25 AND WHICHEVER, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO THEM TWO. AND, BUT LET'S, WELL, I MEAN AT REALLY, DO THEY STILL COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER? BECAUSE EVEN IF WE CHANGE THE TIME, IF THEY'RE COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER FOR BUSINESS, IT MAY NOT ALLEVIATE NO, BUT THE PROBLEM IS POPULATION TAKES A LONG TIME, LONGER TIME. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE THAT, THAT THERE WOULD STILL BE COMPETITION. SO YOU GUYS WOULD SPEED THERE. OKAY. WE DON'T, WHEN WE GET TO ASK 'EM, WE NEED TO WAIT TILL THEY'RE HERE TO ASK THEM. YEAH. TO THE PODIUM. UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT THAT I CAME, I HAD A COUPLE OF CITIZENS CALL ME IN REGARDS TO THIS, SO I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT TOGETHER. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. WELL, I GUESS, CAN I ASK, UM, CHIEF WHITE, HOW DOES IT WORK? SO IF A WRECKER IS CALLED IS, ARE THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO LIKE GO BUY SOME KIND OF WHEEL, WE GET TO DECIDE WHO OR DO THEY ALL JUST WHOEVER IT'S LIKE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE OR HOW DOES IT NO, IT IS A ROTATION. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF, UH, WHOEVER'S NEXT UP GETS THE PHONE CALL, THEY HAVE TYPICALLY 20 MINUTES IS THE RULE. OKAY. UH, TO GET THERE FROM THE TIME WE CALL 'EM, FROM THE TIME THEY, THEY ARRIVE ON SCENE. OKAY. OH, SO IF THEY'RE NOT THERE IN 20 MINUTES, THEY LOSE IT AND IT GOES TO THE NEXT PERSON. IT'S, IT DEFINITELY CAN HAPPEN. IT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, UM, AT THE TIME. SO IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A MINUTE OR TWO, OR SOMETIMES IT'S RIGHT AT THE 20, IT JUST DEPENDS. NEED IF THE ROAD'S BEING BLOCKED OR NEED. SO CHIEF, IF WE WERE TO ADD A COUPLE MINUTES TO THAT, WILL THAT PUT Y'ALL IN THE BIND? UH, I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON HOW, HOW HIGH WE GO UP. UH, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THESE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE ROADS COULD BE BLOCKED WITH A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT. NO, I MEAN, OH, OKAY. UM, A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE ACCIDENTS, TRAFFIC CRASHES AND ARREST CASES. SO, UM, SOMETIMES STRANDED MOTORISTS AS WELL, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S GONNA BE THE ARREST CASES. SO THE OFFICERS WILL HAVE TO STAY THERE UNTIL THEY GET THERE, PICK UP THE CAR. UM, AND THEN ALSO TO CLEAR THE ROADWAYS WHEN WE HAVE A, A TRAFFIC COLLISION. AND HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW? 20 MINUTES. 20 MINUTES ON THE LIGHT TRUCKS. AND DO, DO YOU THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT? UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF I BRING SERGEANT ROU UP, UH, HE COULD PROVIDE SOME MORE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE ARE, AND THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE HEAVILY, HEAVILY POOR BEND AND LIKE THOSE ARE [00:15:01] MORE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED. THAT'S I WOULD THINK LIKE SUGAR LAND AND MISSOURI CITY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. MISSOURI CITY. SO WE, WE, THIS WEEK WE CONDUCTED A STUDY AS WELL ON, UH, RESPONSE TIMES. OURS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH EVERYBODY IN OUR AREA AS FAR AS 20 MINUTES. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, WERE THEY PROVIDED WITH THAT THOSE TIMES AS WELL? THE TIMES. THE TIMES. OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMES, THE ONES THAT ARE FARTHER THAN US, UH, THE ONES THAT GIVE MORE TIME IS LIKE FORT BEND COUNTY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS MUCH LARGER RIGHT. THAN, THAN WE ARE. THEY, THEY HAVE 30 MINUTES TO RESPOND. UM, THE THING WITH OUR RECORDS, ALL OF 'EM ARE WITHIN OUR CITY. SO THEY'RE RESPONDING FROM ONE SIDE OF OUR CITY TO THE OTHER. AND WE GENERALLY, FOR THE MOST PART, DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, UH, THAT 20 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE RUN INTO SOME, UH, ISSUES WHERE A RECORD RECORD'S RUNNING LATE, UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MOST SHOW UP IN THAT 20 HOUR TIME PERIOD. SO FOR EXAMPLE, OFFICER, IF SAY, IF I WAS ONE OF YOUR RECORDS AND I GOT THERE IN 21 MINUTES, I'M OUT COMPLETELY. YOU DON'T, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? I'M JUST ASKING. HONESTLY, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE OFFICER. SO YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE IF YOU SHOW UP AT 21 MINUTES. BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE OFFICER ON SCENE AS TO HOW HE WANTS TO HANDLE THAT SITUATION BECAUSE IF HE DOES ROTATE THAT RECORD, HE'S SITTING THERE WAITING ANOTHER 20 MINUTES FOR ANOTHER RECORD. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. IT MAY NOT BE, BUT WHAT ABOUT IF, IF, UH, IF I HAVE, UH, THERE'S A GUY ON SITE THAT'S ON ROTATION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE AND I'M THERE LATE, I'M THERE A MINUTE LATE, WOULD THAT OTHER GUY GET IT OR IT GOES TO THE FILE? SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ON IT IS STRICTLY OFF OF ROTATION. UH, RECORDS ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN 300 FEET OF OUR SCENE, SO THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER RECORD THERE COMPETING FOR THAT. I'VE SEEN THAT YOU ANOTHER CITY NOT HERE. SO I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP. SO THAT, THAT'S ONE, ONE AREA WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE DIFFERED FROM THAT IS WE, WE GOT RID OF THE FIRST AVAILABLE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE, WE CALL OUT ON THE RADIO AND ALL THE RECORDS SHOW UP ALL AT ONE TIME. THAT'S A MESS. COMPETING FOR THE, THAT'S, THAT'S A MESS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OTHER AGENCIES. WE GOT RID OF THAT. OURS IS STRICTLY OFF OF THE ROTATION. SO IT'S, WE CALL THE WRECKER, THEY SHOW UP IF, IF, IF FOR SOME REASON THEY GET ROTATED, WE JUST, THEY CALL DISPATCH CALLS THE NEXT WRECKER, THE NEXT WRECKER SHOWS UP IN LINE. SO IT'S JUST A STRICTLY OFF OF A LIST. OKAY. AND IS THIS JUST, UM, FOR THE CITY LIMIT, DOES IT ACCOMMODATE THE ETJ AT ALL? SO ALL OF OUR RECORDS ARE, ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN OUR CITY LIMITS. SO THIS WOULDN'T, UM, THIS, THIS, THIS WOULDN'T BE ACCOUNTING FOR THE ETJ. SO HER QUESTION IS, IF, IF IT'S THE ACCIDENT OF THE ETJ, IS IT ROSENBERG OR IS IT FOUR BED? WE, WE WOULDN'T BE WORKING ANYWAY. IT SHOULD BE OKAY. SHOULD BE FOUR BEND COUNTY OUTSIDE THE CITY. SO 20 MINUTES MAYBE ONLY CITY LIMIT MIGHT BE REASONABLE. AND AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. WELL THEY ONLY DO IN THE CITY LIMIT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH, THE, SO, UH, BUT ANYHOW, THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S HEAR THEM AND THEN WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS, SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE. OKAY. FREDDY ALANO, UH, 32 17. SAY YOUR NAME. SAY YOUR NAME. FREDDY ALT. PUSH THE BUTTON. IT'S, IT'S ON, ISN'T IT? OKAY, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. UM, OKAY. UH, FREDDY ALANO 32 17 AVENUE P UM, FROM WHAT I SEE ON THERE, UH, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHARGE FOR DOLLY USAGE. UH, IT'S AN EXTRA PART OF EQUIPMENT THAT DOES COST MORE MONEY NOW. UH, BACK THEN, I THINK, UH, IN 20 20 12, 20 13, IT USED TO RUN MAYBE 1200, 1500 BUCKS. NOW IT'S UPWARDS OF 3000 OR MORE. UM, INSURANCE HAS ALMOST TRIPLED FOR US. UM, SO I MEAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIGHER RATES. UH, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THERE. UM, IS MATERIALS COST AS FAR AS FAR AS LIKE OIL ABSORBENT OR OIL ABSORBENT PADS? UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. UH, ULTIMATELY IT DOES COME OUT OF OUR POCKET, UH, BUT IT IS MATERIALS THAT'S USED ON SCENE, MAYBE A PRICE PLUS A PERCENTAGE, AND WE'D HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF PROOF THAT WE DID USE IT AT THE SCENE AND MAYBE EVEN, UM, HOW MUCH A RECEIPT OF WHAT WE PAID FOR IT, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY WORK ON. WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT MATERIAL? UH, JUST OIL ABSORBENT, OIL DRY, UM, OR THE, LIKE THE WHITE OIL ABSORBENT PADS. LIKE CAD LITTER. YEAH, IT'S LIKE CAT LITTER. $10 A BAG. OKAY. ARE YOU, HANG ON, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR COMMENTS? YOU DO. UM, LEMME SEE. OH, WINCHING, I SEE WINCHING IS ON THERE. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE IT OFF. HAS TO BE OFF THE ROADWAY. UM, SOMETIMES VEHICLES ARE STILL ON THE ROADWAY BUT ARE ROLLED OVER, SO WE DO STILL HAVE TO WINCH IT TO ROLL IT BACK OVER AND TO BE ABLE TO TOW IT. UM, MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO CHARGE FOR THAT, UH, OR I'M NOT SURE HOW CITY COUNCIL OR HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEES THAT. AND, UH, I THINK I'M GOOD. SO WE WANT TO NOTE THESE SUGGESTIONS. ANYTHING ELSE? UM, AS FAR AS THE LIGHT DUTY, NO, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I THINK [00:20:01] THE $5 PER MILE IS FINE TOO. AFTER FIVE MILES. UM, HEAVY DUTY, YOU'D HAVE TO TALK TO ONE OF THESE GUYS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GOOD? YEP, I'M GOOD. UM, THANK YOU. CAN WE ASK HIM A QUESTION? GO AHEAD. ON YOUR, WHEN YOU SAID DOLLY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? DOLLY DOLLY'S ARE, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? IT'S, UH, SET UP TWO AXLES WITH FOUR WHEELS. UH, USUALLY YOU PUT 'EM DOWN FOR A CAR AT THE BACK OF END OF THE, OF THE VEHICLE. ON THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE. I SEEN THOSE. IF IT'S, IF IT'S REALLY DAMAGED OR IF IT'S A FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE, AN ALL-WHEEL DRIVE, THAT WOULD NOT BE USED ON EVERY SINGLE ARREST OR NO INSURANCE. IT WOULD BE USUALLY ACCIDENTS OR A VEHICLE THAT'S AN ALL-WHEEL DRIVE OR A FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK. HOW OFTEN DO Y'ALL USE THOSE? SAY ON A MONTHLY BASIS? CAN YOU GIVE ME A MARRIAGE? 1, 2, 10 TIMES? MAYBE ONCE? YEAH. OKAY. SO NOT EVERYBODY, EVERY CALL'S GONNA BE HIT WITH THAT. OKAY. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE IT'S ONE OUT OF A MONTH THAT, UH, ONE OF YOUR FELLOW TOW TRUCKS OH, OUT OF THE WHOLE ROTATION. I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU. OH, OKAY. YOU COULDN'T TELL ME. UH, I COULD ONLY TELL YOU FOR ME, UH, I MIGHT USE 'EM ONCE A MONTH FOR THE CITY OF ROSENBERG. WHAT, UM, I GUESS I'LL ASK THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WHEN THEY COME UP AND SPEAK AND SEE HOW OFTEN THEY USE IT AND I'LL GET AN IDEA. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK OFFICER STROUD OR JT OR CHIEF OR YOU, WE'LL START WITH OFFICER STROUD. SO HE MENTIONED THAT, UM, WHEN THERE'S, UH, UH, LIKE OIL AND STUFF ON THE PAVEMENT AND ACCIDENT, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE TO PUT, UH, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, AND I'M OKAY WITH IT AS LONG AS SOMEBODY DOES, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THE RECORD DRIVERS HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO CLEANING UP OIL. AND I'M GUESSING NOW IF THERE'S BROKEN GLASS AND BROKEN PLASTIC, I BET YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THEY'RE ALSO IN CHARGE OF CLEANING THAT UP. YES SIR. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING THE ROADWAYS AFTER THE CRASH WHEN THEY PICK UP THE VEHICLE. ALRIGHT, SO NOW RECORD DRIVERS ARE PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS TOW TRUCK DRIVERS. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE, IF IN ANY OTHER, FOR EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY I TURNED IN BROKEN GLASS FROM FROM WINDSHIELD ON THE CORNER OF ALAMO AND, AND, UH, 90, I'M GUESSING SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY WENT AND SWEPT IT UP. I WOULD'VE HAD, I HAD MY BROOM AND DUST PAN, BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T MUCH. BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO, Y'ALL ARE HAVING TO SWEEP UP GLASS AND PLASTIC AND BURN. YES, WE ARE PIECES. OKAY. AND ANY OIL OR FLUIDS THAT LEAK FROM THE CONTAMINANTS THAT LEAK FROM THE VEHICLE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY STANDARD IN THE, IN THE, IN THE INDUSTRY AND IN THE BUSINESS. UH, YES. I I THINK THERE'S A STATE LAW ON THAT TOO. ALRIGHT, SO IF WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, I'M GUESSING Y'ALL HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR PRICING, STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU DON'T, IT'S JUST WHAT, WHAT IF YOU'RE ON THE ROTATION, YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY? YES. IT'S JUST WHAT THAT IS THAT RIGHT THERE. ALRIGHT, SO I CAN MAYBE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, HANG ON. OKAY. GIMME JUST A SECOND. I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND. OKAY. SO IF THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. WELL YOU'RE SAYING THIS, THIS GRANULES, THIS KITTY LITTER SUB TYPE SUB SUBSTANCE OBVIOUSLY IS GOING UP IN PRICE. YES. AND SO YOU'RE ASKING TO CHARGE TO BILL THE CUSTOMER FOR THAT? WELL, TO ADD IT TO THE TOW BILL TO WHOEVER'S PICKING IT UP. UH, USUALLY IT'S INSURANCE AND ACCIDENTS, THINGS LIKE THIS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS LONG AS Y'ALL DON'T GET OVER ABSORBING IT. EXCUSE THE PUN. BUT UM, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE PROOF OF EXCUSE, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE PROOF THAT THEY'RE USING IT. WE DON'T WANT EVERY TOW TRUCK. OH, I USED IT AND THEY DIDN'T USE IT. HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT? WELL, YEAH, YOU CAN, I MEAN, WE'RE GOOD WITH PUTTING THAT IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE CHARGING IT, I THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA MICROMANAGE HOW THEY NO, I'M JUST SAYING HOW THEY DO THAT. JUST IT'LL BE LOGGED IN THE . USUALLY THEY RESPOND TO AN ACCIDENT. OKAY. ROY, HANG ON. WHEN YOU COME UP THERE, YOU CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE FOLKS, ALL THOSE MILLIONS OF LISTENERS GONNA WANT TO HEAR. YEAH. SO ANYWAYS, OKAY. SO THERE'S A WAY OF DOING THAT. OKAY, LET'S, JESSICA HAD A QUESTION OR DID YOU WANNA HEAR FROM THE SECOND SPEAKER FIRST? NO, YOU WERE TALKING, YOU WERE GONNA COMMENT, I MEAN ON THIS, RIGHT? IT'S ALRIGHT, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE COMMENT. WELL, I'LL, I'LL JUST MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT AS A, I HAVE A PRIVATE BUSINESS TOO AND I DO WORK FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS A COURT APPOINTED LAWYER. AND IF WE HAVE EXPENSES, WELL WE GET PAID LIKE A SET AMOUNT ON CERTAIN BY THE HOUR FOR CASES. IF WE HAVE EXPENSES, WE HAVE TO SHOW RECEIPTS. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T GET WHAT WE THINK WE'RE WORTH. BUT THAT'S JUST A CONTRACT I HAVE WITH THE COUNTY. SO, YOU KNOW, AS A COURT APPOINTED LAWYER, A LOT OF THE TIMES I DON'T GET PAID WHAT I THINK I'M [00:25:01] OWED, BUT I SETTLE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WORK. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE YOU GUYS MAYBE MAKE MORE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. DO YOU DO TOWING OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CITY GIVES YOU IN TERMS OF WORK? WE DO DO TOWING ON THE OUTSIDE. SO YOU HAVE PRIVATE CLIENTS AS WELL? YES. PRIVATE CLIENTS. BUT THEY'RE USUALLY NOT ACCIDENT CLIENTS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE USUALLY JUST TRANSPORT. SO YOU'RE NOT, UH, YOUR VEHICLE BROKE DOWN AND I PICKED IT UP FROM THE CHICK-FIL-A PARKING LOT AND TOOK IT TO YOUR MECHANIC. RIGHT. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT I WAS RELATING THAT TO KIND OF YOUR SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO COURT APPOINTED WORK, WE WE DEFINITELY GET PAID MORE IN ON OUR PRIVATE CASES OR GET PAID WHAT WE THINK WE DESERVE ON OUR PRIVATE CASES. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S A TRADE OFF BECAUSE YOU CAN OPT INTO DOING WORK FOR THE CITY AND OPT OUT, RIGHT? UM, YES. UH, BUT USUALLY THOSE MATERIALS AREN'T USED FOR THOSE PRI PRIVATE CLIENTS. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THE CITY WASN'T PAYING YOU WELL, YOU COULD ALWAYS STOP WORKING WITH THE CITY, RIGHT? UH, YEAH, YEAH. I THINK JESSICA'S POINT IS WHEN YOU AGREE TO TO DO BUSINESS ON THIS LIST, THERE'S GONNA BE EXPENSES AND WE CAN'T, I KNOW WHAT SHE MEANS. WELL, IT'S CONSISTENT WORK. IT'S NOT ALWAYS PAID THE SAME. WE, WE DON'T WANT Y'ALL COMING UP HERE EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TO BUY A PENCIL AND SAY, OH, I HAD TO BUY A PENCIL NOW, BLAH, BLAH BLAH. IS THAT KIND OF YOUR POINT? WELL, RIGHT. 'CAUSE BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHEN IT, IF I REPRESENT INMATES, I HAVE TO BUY THEM CLOTHES FOR TRIAL. THERE'S SOMETHING, THERE'S CERTAIN COSTS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOR DOING BUSINESS AND SOMETIMES WE JUST PUT IT ON OUR TAXES AND IT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. SO CAN I CHIME IN BEFORE YOU CHANGE HERE? YEAH. UH, TO AVOID ALL THAT. WOULD, WOULD IT BE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT UH, CHANGE INSTEAD OF ITEMIZING EVERYTHING CHANGING, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHARGE $250, CHANGE THAT TO THREE 50 AND MAKE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WOULD GET RID OF EVERYTHING. BUT THE WINCHING, WELL NOW WE'RE KIND OF PENALIZING THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T, UH, REQUIRE WINCHING REQUIRE DOLLYS REQUIRE ORAL ABSORBENT. IF SOMEBODY JUST GETS ARRESTED, NOW WE'RE HITTING 'EM FOR THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND RICHARD, I TRY TO BE FAIR HERE. OH, IF YOU LOOK, UH, NOBODY'S GETTING CLOSE TO THREE 50. WELL THAT, BUT THEY'RE DOING ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. THEY'RE DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS. BUT I'M SAYING NOW, HI HEAVY TOADS. YES. WELL THAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, THE WINCH FEE, THE WINCHING AND THE LABOR OF CLEANING UP IS WHAT I, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE LABOR IS WHAT COSTS YOU A LOT. 'CAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY YOUR DRIVER TO DO ALL THAT STUFF AND ON AT $200, THEY'RE NOT MAKING, NOWADAYS THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. SO I GOT, WE WERE GOING, I GOT A QUESTION FOR OFFICER STROUT. HOW MANY, ON AVERAGE, ON YOUR ROTATION, HOW MANY PICKUPS DO THEY DO? HANG ON YOUR NEXT. SO I, I JUST ACTUALLY GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH OUR DISPATCH BEFORE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. IT, IT COMPLETELY VARIES AS TO HOW BUSY WE ARE. YEAH. BUT ON AVERAGE, ON AVERAGE MAYBE ONE AND A HALF ROTATIONS A WEEK. UM, WE CAN HAVE VERY BUSY DAYS. WE WENT THROUGH THE ROTATION IN THE LAST DAY AND A HALF. UM, SO IT VARIES. YOU MAY HAVE SLOWER WEEKS, YOU MAY HAVE MORE BUSY WEEKS, BUT IT SO YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE ONE OR TWO A WEEK CORRECT. PER JUST, JUST ON THE AVERAGE. AND THEN THAT'S TIMES FOUR, THAT'S EIGHT. AND IF YOU SAY ONE, I MEAN IF YOU WOULD DO ANOTHER $5 ON THIS, THAT WILL COVER THEIR, THEIR THEIR, YEAH. THEIR EXPENSE. IF YOU REALLY TRYING TO DO THAT, RICHARD. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING. YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE WRECK DRIVERS, BUT WE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE BILLY, THESE ARE CITIZENS. THESE, THESE ARE OUR CITIZENS. I AGREE. THAT ARE, UH, AT ONE OF THEIR MOST VULNERABLE TIME AND THEY DON'T NEED EXTRA PILED UP ON 'EM. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE, WE WANT YOU TO GET A FAIR SHAKE TOO. GEORGE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? HOW DO HAVE AA, AAA USUALLY HAS THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AAA, THEY WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH AAA, AA WOULD CONTACT THEIR OWN AND THEN THEY WOULD SEND THEM OUT. WELL, AND AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHEN YOU CONTRACT WITH THE CITY AND YOU SUBMIT THESE BILLS, WHO PAYS YOUR BILL? ULTIMATELY? UH, WHOEVER'S PICKING UP THE VEHICLE, THE CITY DOES NOT PAY OUR BILLS. IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH, AND AAA, I HAVE AAA AND AA. NONE OF THESE GUYS, THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A CERTAIN RECORDS SERVICE AND THEY CAN LIVE IN, THEY CAN BE IN KATY AND IT TAKES AN HOUR TO, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE THAT COME. THEY HAVE WORK, ONSTAR, AAA IS NOT THE SAME PEOPLE I THINK. WHAT ABOUT ONSTAR? UH, I DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS TOO. THEY DON'T CALL US. UM, AAA THOUGH, I THINK IF LESS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UH, I DON'T THINK THEY CARRY SHOVELS. I DON'T THINK THEY CARRY BROOMS. I DON'T THINK THEY CARRY ANY TYPE OF OIL ABSORBANT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST PICK UP AND TRANSPORT OR DOLLY'S. THEY [00:30:01] DON'T DO THAT EITHER. SO YOU'RE SAYING PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE PRIVATE SERVICES USE UH, TOW TRUCK DRIVERS THAT AREN'T FROM THIS AREA FROM I HAVE THAT SERVICE. WHERE ARE THEY FROM? THEY'RE FROM KATY. I DON'T CITY RIGHT NOW. JUST BLANKET STATEMENT. WELL THERE'S, LAST TIME CAME, THERE'S ONE ON PICK UP, UP ROSENBERG COMPANY. IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE. IF YOU USE AAA, YOU'RE GONNA WAIT. EXACTLY. IF YOU USE THESE GUYS, THEY ARE AROUND 20 MINUTES. AND UH, WE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT MAYBE ADJUSTING THAT. IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MAYBE ADJUST IT UP FIVE MINUTES. I AGREE WITH YOU. GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE MORE TIME. COUNSELOR, UH, ON YOUR QUESTION. AAA WOULDN'T BE USED FOR THESE TYPE OF TOES THOUGH. I WAS JUST WONDERING THE DIFFERENT NOT CONSENT TOES IS RIGHT. THESE ARE NOT THOSE, BUT I, I JUST, AFTER WHAT GEORGE ASKED, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, WHO EXACTLY IS SERVICED BY THIS SERVICE? BECAUSE HE MAKES A POINT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE MAYBE THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY USES THE SERVICE, IT'S JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, NON-CONSENT. RIGHT? NON-CONSENT. THEY HAVE TO USE THIS CASE SERVICE TO JAIL OR HAD AN ACCIDENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN. BUT ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT, YOU CAN REQUEST YOUR OWN RIGHT THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE MAYBE AN ACCIDENT BUT DON'T THAT I CAN REQUEST MY OWN RECORD. SO IT'S, IT'S TO AN EXTENT, UH, OUR, OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS OBVIOUSLY THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AND CLEARING THE ROADWAY. SO IF THE ROADWAY IS BLOCKED, WE CONTACT THE NON-CONSENT WRECKER. OUR WRECKER, WE DON'T SIT AND WAIT FOR AAA TO SHOW UP. NO, NO, NO. BUT IF, IF FOR EXAMPLE, IF I, I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. IF I'M IN ACCIDENT, I USUALLY TAKE MY CAR TO MARIO'S PAINT AND BODY. IF, IF THEY, IF THEY SPECIFICALLY NAME A WRECKER. YES, WE, THAT'S I'M AT, WE CONTACT THE WRECKER. THAT WRECKER STILL REQUIRED TO SHOW UP WITHIN 20 MINUTES. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FRED. ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND SPEAKER. SPEAKER, UH, AUSTIN. HI, AUSTIN. GOOD. UH, AUSTIN RODRIGUEZ. 19. 19. MAY UH, THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S TIME TONIGHT. UH, THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE RECORD INDUSTRY. GREEN SHOULD BE, THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? UH, THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT US. UM, MOST PEOPLE SEE US AS VULTURES. WE, WE JUST WANT MONEY AT THIS POINT. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. UH, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. MY FATHER'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR OVER 20. I GREW UP IN ROSENBERG. I GREW UP AROUND THIS BUSINESS. I'VE SEEN THE INS AND OUTS OF IT. UM, MY MAIN THING IS THE INSURANCE INCREASE IN 2020. WE WERE QUOTED 20 GRAND FOR THREE TRUCKS IN 2025. WE WERE QUOTED $65,000 FOR TWO. AND I BELIEVE YOU, IT'S, IT'S INSANE. AND IT JUST, IT IT KEEPS GOING UP. IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLED. UM, THE TOFI AND ROSENBERG HASN'T CHANGED AND THEY SAID 15 YEARS. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LOOKING AT TO INCREASE THAT. UH, LIKE FREDDY SAID, WE HAVE OTHER EXPENSES. DO WE USE OUR DOLLIES? THAT'S EXTRA EQUIPMENT. UM, OIL DRY. AND THEN THE WINCHING OBVIOUSLY IT MUST SAYS IT HAS TO BE OFF THE ROADWAY, BUT WE HAVE ROLLOVERS. UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, TIME INCREASE, I THINK 25 MINUTES IS A, A GOOD TIME LIMIT. YOU DON'T WANT AN HOUR? NO, I'M JOKING THAT , UH, I DON'T JUST RUN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG AS A RECORD COMPANY. I MAINLY RUN FORT BEND COUNTY AND THE SUGARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT, FORT BEND COUNTY ALLOWS 30 MINUTES. YES, IT'S, IT'S BIG SUGAR LAND ALLOWS 25. UH, THAT EXTRA FIVE MINUTES DOES A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC. IF I'M AT HOME AND I GET CALLED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF ROSENBERG, IT'S, THERE'S BEEN TIMES THAT I SHOW UP 20 MINUTES AND I GET DISREGARDED BECAUSE I WAS A COUPLE SECONDS LATE. AS I'M PULLING UP, I CAN SEE THE OFFICER, I'LL PULL UP, I'M HERE, WANNA USE ME. NO, I'VE, I'VE BEEN ROTATED. SO HE WAITS ANOTHER 20 MINUTES, WAITS ANOTHER 20 MINUTES FOR A WRECKER. THAT 25 MINUTES WOULD BE VERY, VERY GOOD. UM, AS FAR AS DOLLY USAGE FOR EACH COMPANY, IT'S DIFFERENT. I'VE THROWN DOLLIES FOUR TIMES THIS WEEK AND IT'S ALREADY TUESDAY. IT JUST, IT, IT DEPENDS. MOST VEHICLES THAT GET IN ACCIDENTS ARE ALL WHEEL DRIVE NOWADAYS AND THE CUSTOMERS COMPLAIN TO US IF WE DON'T USE DOLLY'S. SO JUST THE, THE USAGE VARIES. UM, I KNOW THEY BROUGHT, Y'ALL BROUGHT UP ABOUT PUTTING THE RATE AT TWO 50 OR THREE 50. I THINK A TWO 50 RATE FOR ARRESTS WOULD BE GOOD FOR [00:35:01] US TO COVER IF WE HAVE TO USE OUR DOLLIES OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF MANEUVERS EQUIPMENT. AND THEN A, UH, AN ACCIDENT RATE OF ABOUT THREE 50 TO COVER OUR WINCHING, OUR DOLLIES, OUR OIL DRYING, OUR EQUIPMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. WE'LL DO, UH, ROY NOW ROEL, EO 10 55 COTTONWOOD CHURCH ROAD, ROSENBERG, TEXAS. UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M MAINLY HERE FOR THE HEAVY DUTY STUFF. AND I SEEN ON THE RATES THAT THEY GOT, UH, OR THE SHEET YOU GAVE US UHHUH, IT SAYS, I THINK IT'S KINDA LOPSIDED ON THE MILEAGE FOR THE HEAVY DUTY. IT'S $5 A MILE, EVEN FOR LIGHT AND HEAVY. ROY, UH, PUSH YOUR MIC UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRETTY TALL. . SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ALL Y'ALL HAVE THAT PAPER AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COLUMN ROY? UH, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE, AT THE VERY BOTTOM THERE, THE MILEAGE, THE MILEAGE, UHHUH HEAVY DUTY, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MILE DOLLARS A MILE FOR LIGHT DUTY AND HEAVY DUTY. I GET THREE MILES TO THE GALLON THAT ARE MY BIG TRUCK . OKAY. AND THESE GUYS ARE, WE GET 10 TO 12 ON THE SMALL TRUCK. SO, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING AN INCREASE THERE? THAT IS UH, SHOULD BE ABOUT $8 A MILE. ALRIGHT. AND THEN ANOTHER, I'LL WRITE IT DOWN AND SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS. AND ANOTHER THING IS THE, I'M ONE OF THE ONE THAT'S CONCERNED WITH THE ETS BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, FOR HEAVY DUTY ROSENBERG IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A 40 MINUTE ETA FOR HEAVY DUTY. PRETTY MUCH. INDUSTRY STANDARD IS BETWEEN 45 AND AN HOUR. AND IT, IT REALLY IS PUTTING A TOE ON US WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE IT THERE IN 40 MINUTES. MR. PENAL, JUST, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I OWN A COUPLE OF HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND THINGS DON'T PICK UP. I CAN FLOOR IT. I I'VE TRIED AND, AND I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. UM, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I I DO AGREE WITH YOU. I SEE THAT NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, THAT YOU'RE WITH THE LEASE ON THE, ON THE 40 MIL ON THE ETA TIME FOR HEAVY DUTY. I WASN'T LOOKING AT THAT. UH, BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU. THE BIGGER, AS BIG AS A TRUCK YOU HAVE. I'VE SEEN THOSE. I DON'T THINK IT PICKS UP PRETTY QUICK. WELL, AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU GOING DOWN THE ROAD 50,000 POUNDS TRYING TO MAKE IT TO AN ACCIDENT SCENE 'CAUSE I CAN'T GET 10 OR 15 MORE MINUTES IS VERY DANGEROUS. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WE GET IS 40 MINUTES. I'VE BEEN THERE IN 42 AND SAY HEY, KEEP ON GOING. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT HURTS. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GIVING 40 MINUTES, 40 MINUTES AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE TIME THERE. YEAH. HOW MUCH MORE TIME ARE YOU? I WAS THINKING AN HOUR HOUR IS GREAT BUT I MEAN 45, 50 IT'S FINE. ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS AND LIKE I SAID, 25 ON THE LIGHT DUTY. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, MAYBE WE DO 50, IF WE DO 25 FOR THE LIGHT DUTY, WELL WE'RE GONNA SEE HECTOR WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT FOR THE PEOPLE TO, TO COUNCIL KNOW. SO EVERYBODY MAKE YOUR NOTES 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO DO ANYTHING ELSE ROY. UH, AND BACK ON THE LIGHT DUTY STUFF. OH, UH, I GOT THE INSURANCE INCREASES FOR THE LAST FROM 2022 TO 25. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT THESE. I GOT A COPY. FOR WHAT? I'M SORRY. SAY THAT HOW MUCH OUR IN INSURANCE HAS INCREASED. WE, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEAK. JUST TELL US. UH, HEY ROY? YES SIR. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TELL US WE GET IN. THIS IS PRE COVID STUFF. SINCE THESE RATES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED INSURANCE, EVERYTHING'S GONE UP HERE. WELL MAYOR, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT MINE WENT UP FROM INSURANCE. YEAH, I KNOW. MINE, MINE WENT CRAZY. MINE WENT FROM I WAS PAYING 25 FOR THREE TRUCKS TO 120 WITH ONE COMPANY AND THEN I HAD TO DROP A TRUCK AND I'M PAYING ALMOST 40. YEP. I'M AT 1 0 5 RIGHT NOW. I'LL BE AT ONE 15 IN MAY. SHE SAID A 10% INCREASE IN IT. WAS THAT IT ON THE THREE MINUTES OR DOES HE HAVE MORE TIME? OKAY, WELL GO AHEAD. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, LIKE I SAID, IF WE COULD ON THE LIGHT DUTY STUFF, IF WE GET CHARGED FOR DOLLIES AND WINCHING 'CAUSE IT'S OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING'S BEEN COVERED. WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN ADJUST JUST ALL SEE WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. WE GOTTA GET A CONSENSUS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT IT IN AN ORDINANCE FOR US TO RATIFY. WHAT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN, DOLLY OR WINCHING? I THINK DOLLY WOULD, YEAH, DOLLY'S DEFINITELY 'CAUSE OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A A LOT MORE ALL WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES NOWADAYS THAN, THAN THERE IS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE DO. YOU GET, WE GET THE WINCHING WHEN IT'S RAINING. I MEAN EVERYBODY'S SLIDING OFF THE ROAD BUT SO IT'S, I MEAN DOLLY'S IF IT'S DRY AND IF IT'S RAINING IT'S WINCHING. SO IT'S KIND OF A MIXTURE OF BOTH. SO WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR A DOLLY DOLLY'S RIGHT NOW WE DON'T GET ANYTHING IN THE CITY. WHAT OTHER CITY DOES OTHER CITY ALREADY POST? FORER IS A HUNDRED. CITY OF WARDEN IS A HUNDRED. SUGARLAND IS 60. PERRY LAND IS 75. BUT YOU'VE MADE A CALL TO GET TO, TO GET [00:40:01] THERE FOR A DOLLING. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THE CALL. YEAH, YOU GET YOUR CALL OUT FEE, YOU KNOW TO, WELL EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT BUT 200, 2 50 AND THEN IF YOU GOT A DOLLY, YOU GET PAID EXTRA. 'CAUSE THAT TAKES AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, $30, 30 MINUTES TO THROW 'EM ON, 30 MINUTES TO TAKE 'EM OFF WHEN YOU GET BACK TO YOUR YARD. NOW DOLLY, TELL US WHAT A DOLLY IS IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT A TWO WHEEL DOLLY IS, BUT THAT AIN'T WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? NO, NO. WELL OR WITH TWO KIND OF, BUT WITH FOUR TIRES INSTEAD OF TWO. AND YOU SAID TWO AXLES? FOUR TIRES. TWO AXLES, FOUR TIRES. YES MA'AM. SO YOU'RE PUT, YOU'RE PUTTING A SET, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TWO AXLES TO, TO THE BOTTOM OF A, OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE VEHICLE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO GET IT TO GO DOWN VERY WRECKED VEHICLE. NOT NECESSARILY. IT COULD JUST BE ALL WAY DRIVING WE GOTTA THROW SO IT COULD NOT BE WRECKED AT ALL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO SHOULDN'T THAT SAY EITHER WINCH OR DOLLY FEE? BUT, BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I THINK YOU RAISED ALSO WAS YOU ALREADY GET IT AN EXTRA FEE FOR HAVING THAT CAPABILITY? NO, NO WE DON'T GET IT NOW IN OTHER CITIES. WE GET IT IN HERE IN OTHER CITIES. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST COULD JUST ADD WHICH FEE OR DOLLY FEE? A HUNDRED DOLLARS. WELL F WELL A HUNDRED IS FULL SURE 60 IS SUGAR LAND. IF Y'ALL STOP INTERRUPTED, I'M NOT TALKING. WE CAN YEAH, BUT YOU DID EARLIER . OKAY, WE, I'VE SAID VERY LITTLE. OKAY. WINCH FEE OR DOLLY FEE. A HUNDRED DOLLARS. ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? PLUS YOUR CALL OUT FEE, SIR? YEAH, BUT IT'S WINCHING AND DOLLY NOT OR RIGHT. WELL BECAUSE IF YOU GET A ROAD OVER VEHICLE AND YOU GOT A DOLLY IT OKAY. YOU KNOW FOR SURE WE GET BOTH. SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH. BOTH, YES. SOMETIMES. ALRIGHT, SO ROY, WHAT THAT IMPLIES IS IF YOU DO WINCH OKAY, WINCH AND OR DOLLY. YES. THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR EACH SERVICE. ON OR OFF THE ROADWAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER ROY, IF THEY HAVE TO PULL SOMEBODY OUT OF A DITCH WHEN, WHEN WE GO THROUGH IT, DON'T KEEP ADDING EXTRA STUFF. JUST LET'S AGREE SO WE CAN AGREE TO A PRICE HERE, OKAY? YES SIR. SO WHICH FEE AND OR DOLLY FEE A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER PER SERVICE, CORRECT? YES SIR. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT, YES SIR. ALRIGHT. ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT CHIEF, CHIEF, CHIEF? YOU ANSWER IF YOU DON'T MIND. . OKAY. YEAH, JUST THE MORE FEES. IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO REGULATE. WE GET COMPLAINTS ON WHAT THE CHARGES ARE. WE UNDERSTAND WE'LL TRY THE BEST WE CAN. YEAH. SO THE MORE FEES THEY'RE GONNA GIVE AN INVOICE IS, IS BETTER TRANSPARENCY FOR THE CITIZENS AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO WINCH FEE AND OR DOLLY FEE. WHEN Y'ALL, YOU'LL HAVE TO SPECIFY TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THEY'RE GONNA COMPLAIN AND YOU KNOW WHO'S GONNA END UP GETTING THE COMPLAINT? WE ARE. AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT IT. SO I WOULD URGE Y'ALL TO BE, YOU KNOW, PLEASE BE VERY AWARE OF THAT SO THAT WE DON'T GET COMPLAINTS AND SAY Y'ALL ARE ALLOWING THIS GOUGING. SO PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL. WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH THE ON OR OFF THE ROAD? DOES IT MATTER? WELL, YOU GET A ROLLOVER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND WE GOTTA DO ALL THIS WORK TO ROLL IT OVER AND WE CAN'T CHARGE. BUT IF IT'S IN THE DITCH AND WE PULL IT OUT, A SIMPLE WIN SHOT WE COULD CHARGE. SO IT'S KIND OF, IT WAS JUST RIDDEN BY SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AT THE TIME AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. BUT OKAY. OH, I THOUGHT SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE ALREADY ALLOWED TO CHARGE IF IT'S IN THE ROADWAY, BUT IF IT'S NOT ONLY IN DITCH OFF THE, IN THE DITCH, YOU PUT YOUR WINCH AND IT PULL IT OUT. BUT IF IT'S ROLLED OVER IN THE ROAD, WE COULDN'T CHARGE. SO IT KIND OF, SO YOU STILL HAVE TO DO IT, YOU JUST CAN'T CHARGE FOR IT. CORRECT. WHO, WHO SAID YOU COULDN'T CHARGE FOR THAT? IT'S, IT'S ON THERE ON THAT PAPER YOU GOT? YEAH, IT'S ON THERE MAYOR, IT SAYS IT MUST BE OFF ROADWAY SO WE CAN, BUT IF YOU USE IT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES, WHO, WHO WROTE THIS? YOU DID . SO IF THEY, IF THEY USE IT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF THEY'RE ON OR OFF THE ROAD? IF IT'S HAS TO DO WITH AN ACCIDENT, IT IS WRITTEN, UH, MAYOR, IT IS WRITTEN WHERE IF THE TIRES ARE OFF THE ROADWAY, SO IF THE VEHICLE'S UPSIDE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, THEY SHOULD BE CHARGING A WINCHING FEE. IF THEY'RE FLIPPING IT BACK OVER, IF IT'S IN THE DITCH, THEY SHOULD BE PULLING IT OUTTA THE DITCH. THEY BE CHARGING A LYNCHING FEE. SO DID YOU I UNDERSTAND THAT. I KIND OF NOT REALLY. WAIT A MINUTE. SO WHEN Y'ALL, WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS 45 MINUTES AND THAT'S PROBABLY 15 MINUTES TOO LONG. BUT ANYWAYS, SO YOU CHARGE SOMEONE, DO Y'ALL REVIEW ALL THE BILLS? NO SIR. SO, ALRIGHT. ANYWAY, SO I KNOW YOU WANT AN UNDERSTANDING SO THAT Y'ALL DON'T GET ACCUSED OF OVERCHARGING SOMEONE AND [00:45:01] THIS AND THAT. OKAY. SO WINCHING FEE, BUT JD DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, I MEAN, AND HONESTLY, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND UGLY, BUT DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AS FAR AS CHARGING FOR OFF THE ROAD TOO? IS THAT, IS THAT UNREASONABLE? NO, SIR. I BELIEVE THEY USE THEIR WINCH. UH, THEY SHOULD CHARGE FOR IT. THE IDEA BEHIND THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN IS THAT IF THEY'RE USING A WINCH FOR NO REASON, JUST TO GET THAT EXTRA A HUNDRED OFF. AH, OKAY. SO YOU SEE HIS POINT, RIGHT? SO HOW WOULD WE WRITE THAT UP TO, I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE IN A BIT, BUT IT, THE ORIGINAL IDEA BEHIND IT, IF THE TIRES WERE OFF THE ROADWAY, THEY COULD, THEY HAD TO USE A WINCH. SO IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD UPSIDE DOWN, THEY GOTTA USE THE WINCH TO FLIP IT BACK OVER. OR IF IT'S OFF IN THE DITCH, THEY COULD USE A WINCH TO PULL IT OUT. UH, SO THAT, THAT WAS THE MAIN PART. BUT IS, IS THERE ANY DISPUTE THAT IF THE VEHICLE WERE FLIPPED IN THE ROADWAY, THAT OFF THE, WOULD BE THE TIRES OFF THE ROAD THAT IT WOULD BE NECESSARY? GOOD POINT TO USE A WINCH? NO, MA'AM. I, I BELIEVE SO. IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT IT IS NECESSARY. IT'S NOT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, THEM DOING IT FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS. I I I BELIEVE AS LONG AS THEY NEED TO USE A WINCH, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, THEY WOULD BE COVERED. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, OFFICER, IS IF THERE'S THREE CARS IN THE WRECK AND I WANNA PULL THIS ONE 'CAUSE I'M TAKING THIS ONE, YOU USE YOUR WINCH AND THEY'RE ALL FOUR TIRES ARE ON THE ROAD. THE OTHER ONE'S TWO NOT TOO CHARGED FOR THAT. THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMING AT. RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD NEED TO USE A WINCH FOR THAT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, LET ME, YOU KNOW, LET ME WINCH IT JUST TO, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE CHARGE COMING FROM HUNDRED. YES. WILL YOU GUYS BE OKAY IF, IF THE FOUR TIRES ARE OFF THE ROAD OR LEANING ONE SIDE AND YOU GOTTA USE A WINCH. IF ALL FOUR TIRES ARE NOT ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL CONCRETE AS FAULT, YOU CAN'T CHARGE FOR FOR A WINCH. BUT IF IT'S, IF YOU HAVE TWO TIRES OFF AND YOU GOTTA WINCH IT, IF IT'S LEANING THIS WAY, THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE GET CARS ALL THE TIME THAT GO UNDERNEATH EACH OTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY PILE UP AND YOU GOTTA LIFT ONE UP TO GET THE OTHER ONE OUT. OH, I SEE. I MEAN THE TIRES ARE, I MEAN THE TIRES ARE ON THE ROADWAY AND WE'RE NOT CHARGED MEAN. OKAY, SO WHO DECIDES WHO'S ON THIS LIST OF ROTATION OF TOW TRUCK DRIVERS WHO SERVICES THE CITY? SO CAN I RESPOND TO HIM? DO YOU MIND? GO AHEAD. IF THE CARS ARE ONE'S UNDERNEATH THE OTHER, WE WOULD HAVE TIRES OFF THE ROAD AND THEN WE WOULD'VE TO USE A WINCH. SO ONE CAR IS UP ON THE WAY UNDERNEATH EACH OTHER. WELL YOU'RE LIFTING ONE CAR UP WITH THE OTHER. OH, YOU SAY ONE IS ON TOP, ONE IS ON BOTTOM. UM, I'M SORRY, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF DECIDING WHO GETS TO BE ON THE ROTATION? BECAUSE NOT EVERY TOW TRUCK DRIVER IS ON THIS LIST, RIGHT? THEY APPLY ONCE A YEAR AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE REGULATIONS AND THE REQUIREMENTS. SO WHO, WHO DECIDES WHO MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS? UH, THE ORDINANCE DOES AND THEN SERGEANT STROUD REVIEWS EVERYTHING. SO IF SOMEBODY WERE DEEMED TO BE ABUSIVE OF THIS SYSTEM AND THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE AND YOU GUYS OBSERVE THAT, IS THERE A WAY TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE LIST? YES MA'AM. OKAY. IT IT'S ALSO AN ORDINANCE THAT WE OVERCHARGE, WE GET A CITATION, RIGHT. IT WOULD BE, WELL I THINK IT WOULD HURT MORE TO GET REMOVED. WELL YOU, YOU WOULD BE, YOU WOULD BE LIKE SHE SAID YOU'D BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST. I'D PAY A FINE ANY DAY VERSUS GETTING REMOVED FROM THE LIST, YOU KNOW? YEP. SO YEAH, I MEAN JUST BE, BE AWARE. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA IF Y'ALL ARE GONNA CHARGE, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAN BE KIND OF A GRAY AREA ON THIS. WINCHING AND DOLLY MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE SURE YOU GET, IF YOU'RE GONNA BILL THAT CUSTOMER THAT MAKE SURE YOU GET PICTURES, DOCUMENT THOSE PICTURES, SEND 'EM SOMEWHERE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, FREDDY? USUALLY IF IT'S IN A QUESTIONABLE EMAIL, ASK. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, LET ME RESTATE WHAT FREDDY SAID FOR THE RECORD. HE SAID, UM, USUALLY IF, IF IT'S A GRAY AREA THEY'LL, THE WRECKER WILL EMAIL OR TEXT OR UH, STROUD AND HE WILL AND LET HIM KNOW. AND DO YOU APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE IT? UH, OFFICER STROUD, SERGEANT STROUD I SHOULD SAY. RIGHT? USUALLY I'LL, USUALLY IT'S JUST KINDA GIVING GUIDANCE AS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE CHARGED, BUT THAT IS, UH, EXTREMELY RARE CASES. OKAY. AS IN MAYBE, MAYBE ONCE A YEAR, MAYBE. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT CASE, THOSE CASES MAY INCREASE AS A RESULT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION. . SO GET READY FOR THAT. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN COME IN HERE FOR ANOTHER PAY RAISE. OKAY. ANYWAYS. UM, OKAY, SO LET'S, LET'S, UH, AGREE. LET'S DISCUSS, I'M WITH THE COUNCIL. WHAT Y'ALL, UH, LET'S GET A CON WHAT WE THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON. SO IF Y'ALL WILL PULL YOUR DEALS OUT LIKE THIS. EVERYBODY HAVE 'EM? STEVE GOT YOUR DEAL LIKE THIS. GEORGE, PULL YOUR DEAL OUT. PULL YOUR DIAGRAM. MAYOR, AM I DONE? YES, I SIT DOWN. YES, PLEASE. YEAH. THANK YOU. ROY. AT THE BOTTOM. ROY SUGGESTED [00:50:01] HEAVY DUTY MILEAGE FEES. UM, IT'S BEING PROPOSED, UH, $8 A MILE. WELL I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S THREE 50, RIGHT? YES. AND YOU'RE, UH, THE CITY PROPOSED $5. IT SAYS HEAVY DUTY. WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO LIGHT IN A MINUTE. HEAVY DUTY. THEY'RE PROPOSING FIVE, $5 BUT YOU WANT $8, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY THREE 50. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR A NUMBER SEVEN 50. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR IT FROM YOU RIGHT YET, HECTOR. OKAY, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK PEOPLE FIRST, OKAY? OKAY. I'M GONNA ASK RICHARD FIRST. WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? RICHARD? EIGHT. OKAY, GEORGE, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? EIGHT. ALRIGHT, JESSICA, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER RIGHT NOW? IT'S THREE 50 I THINK. SO STAFF, I'M SORRY. STAFF APPROVED THE $6? NO, NO. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING $5. I WOULD GO WITH SIX. OKAY, NOW HECTOR, NOW YOU SAY I'LL DO EIGHT. EIGHT, OKAY. STEVE? EIGHT. ALRIGHT, FELIX. EIGHT. ALRIGHT, EIGHT. IT WILL BE THEN. OKAY, NOW LET'S GO ON THE TIME RIGHT NOW. ROY FOR HEAVY, THEY, THE CITY GIVES YOU 40 MINUTES. YOU'RE REQUESTING WHAT? 60? IT'S OKAY. HE, HE'S REQUESTING 60. THE CURRENT IS 40 NOW THIS IS FOR LIKE BIG 18 WHEELERS AND STUFF. HE DOES THE BIG STUFF. UM, SERGEANT STROUD, WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? NOW? THIS IS ALL STUFF IN THE CITY LIMIT. WE'RE NOT TALKING WAY OUT IN THE COUNTRY. CORRECT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HIS POINT HERE. 40 MINUTES BLOCKING THE ROADWAY IS A LONG TIME, BUT, BUT I SEE BOTH SIDES HERE. IT, IT IS A LONG TIME AND, AND UH, TO BE HONEST, I CANNOT RECALL THE LAST TIME WE HAD TO ROTATE A HEAVY DUTY UHHUH OR BEING OVERTIME LIMIT THERE. GENERALLY IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE OVER LIFE OVER THE TIME LIMIT, IT'S THE LIGHT DUTIES. I DON'T RECALL THE HEAVY DUTIES THE LAST TIME WE ROTATED ONE. WELL, WHILE WE'RE ADJUSTING, LET'S GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. UH, HE'S ASKING FOR 60 RIGHT NOW. IT'S 40. WHY DON'T WE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE GUYS AND GIVE HIM 50. THAT I AGREE TO 50. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? I'M OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? ROY, CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT? SERGEANT, CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT 50 MINUTES? YEAH. CAN YOU IT'S, IT'S REASONABLE. I MEAN, I MEAN IF IT'S NOT, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN ANYWAY, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? 10 MINUTES. 10 MINUTES AIN'T A KILL. RIGHT? LET ME, LET ME KNOW MY DEAL. WE JUST WANT TO GET THIS SO WE CAN, 'CAUSE WE GOT OTHER STUFF WE GOTTA DO. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, NOW THAT'S GOOD. SO, UH, FOR THE WINCH AND OR DOLLY FEE, IS EVERYBODY OKAY? AND I MEAN EVERYBODY HERE OKAY WITH THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS I'M OKAY EACH, I'M OKAY EACH FOR EACH SERVICE. EACH SERVICE AND YOU KNOW, PLEASE USE IT SPARINGLY. BUT ROY, ARE YOU OKAY MR. RODRIGUEZ? BACK, BACK THERE. YOU ALL RIGHT? YOU ALL RIGHT GUYS? WITH THAT? SO MAYOR, MAYOR, ANY CLARIFICATION? I I'LL GIVE YOU THE, GIVE YOU OUR OPINION ON IT. O OKAY. UH, THE REASON FOR US HAVING ONE SINGULAR FEE IS THE COMPLEXITY OF IT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE COMPLEXITY OF BEING ABLE TO REGULATE IT BY ON OUR END, BUT ALSO FOR THE CITIZENS. WHEN THE CITIZENS SHOWS UP TO THE RECORD YARD, THEY LOOK AT THE FEE LIST, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY. THE MORE AND MORE FEES WE HAVE, THE MORE CONVOLUTED IT GETS FOR THEM AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ONE FEE. THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, IS THE, THERE'S NOTHING REGULATING THAT AS FAR AS DOLLIES. THERE'S NOTHING REGULATING, HEY, I HAVE TO USE A DOLLY ON THAT VEHICLE. ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING ANYBODY FROM ROLLING UP THROWING A DOLLY ON EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE AND CHARGING EXTRA A HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THERE'S NOTHING SAYING WHAT A DOLLY'S USED FOR. AND SO I CAN'T, ON MY END, I CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE USED THE DOLLY. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CHARGED IT THERE SO IT COULD BE ABUSED. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ABSOLUTELY. Y'ALL AND THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NO WAY TO STOP IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY WHEN A DOLLY SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BE USED. SO WHAT ABOUT A, A FLAT ACCIDENT FEE, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE REGULAR TOWING FEE? UH, UH, THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO Y'ALL. I, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE MUCH OF AN ISSUE WITH IT. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT JUST, YOU START INTRODUCING MORE AND MORE FEES. YOU JUST BRING IN THAT COMPLEXITY OF THINGS WHERE, WHERE THE CITIZENS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING CHARGED WHENEVER THEY SHOW UP TO A LOT. THE THING IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU, IF YOU DON'T OKAY, A DOLLY OR WINTER OR MOST OF THESE VEHICLES WRECKED [00:55:01] PARKING BRAKE. EXACTLY. THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH DOLLY ELECTRONIC. LOOK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. YEAH, ROY, ONE OR TWO. ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH IS, CAN I TURN IT ON? ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE DEALING WITH BIG TIME IS WHILE WE'RE HAVING A DOLLY IS 'CAUSE ELECTRIC E-BRAKE, AS SOON AS YOU LIFT THE VEHICLE UP, IT LOCKS UP. NOW SOMEBODY CAN LOOK AT IT, SAY, WELL THAT'S A FRONT WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE. WHY ARE THEY DOLLY IN IT? BUT THE E-BRAKE, CHEVY MALIBU, FORD FUSIONS, ALL THESE ARE THOSE ANTI-THEFT? NO, THEY'RE NOT ANTI-THEFT. THEY, IT'S MORE OF A OCCUPANCY SENSOR. IT FILLS, THE CAR GETS UP FROM THE FRONT END WHEN WE LIFT IT AND THE E-BRAKE AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS. YOU CAN'T MOVE IT. SO WE HAVE TO THROW DOLLIES, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO THROW DOLLIES 'CAUSE IT'S A FRONT WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE. I'M SURE RICHARD UNDERSTANDS THAT TERMINOLOGY. BUT YOU LIFT IT A CHEVY TAHOE, YOU LIFT IT AND IT AUTOMATICALLY ENGAGES AND YOU CANNOT MOVE THAT VEHICLE. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEWER VEHICLE VEHICLES THAT ARE THE E-BRAKE, THE ELECTRONIC BRAKE, NOT THE PUSH BRAKE NO MORE. OH, OKAY. SO ALL THESE NEW VEHICLES, IF YOU LOOK, THEY'RE PUSHED NOW. THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE PEDAL AT THE BOTTOM ANYMORE. SO WHEN YOU LIFT IT UP, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S LIKE A SAFETY FISH FEATURE. SO IT AUTOMATICALLY LOCKS UP AND THAT'S IT. YOU'RE NOT MOVING IT AND OKAY, SO IT LOCKS UP. IS IT THAT MUCH MORE WORK? YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T A TOW, I MEAN, IT'S GOTTA BE ON A DOLLY AND YOU CAN'T ROLL IT. SO, SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO JUST CHARGE A FLAT FEE HIGHER FOR EVERY CAR? I MEAN, IT WOULD, BUT THEN IT GOES BACK LIKE, LIKE WE SAY, YOU KNOW, A GUY'S GETTING ARRESTED AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO THROW A DOLLY. SO NOW YOU'RE PENALIZING HIM. WELL, I MEAN IF HE'S, EVERYTHING'S, THE REALITY IS, I THINK THEY'RE SAYING WHEN THE FEES ARE MORE PREDICTABLE, WE GET LESS COMPLAINTS. YEAH. SO WHEN WE GET TO NICKEL AND DIMING PEOPLE AND ADDING HIDDEN FEES, IT'S MORE OF A ISSUE ON THEIR END. CORRECT. BUT I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TELLING FOR THE CITY OF CHER FOR SINCE 2014 AND THEIR RATES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OKAY. A HUNDRED DOLLARS EACH. AND WE'VE, ALRIGHT HERE, HERE'S THE ANSWER. I THINK WHEN YOU CHARGE A WINCH OR DOLLY FEE ON YOUR INVOICES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY. IN CASE THESE GUYS AUDIT, AUDIT THEM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT IT WAS SO AND SO MALIBU IT LOCKED UP. WE HAD TO PUT THE DOLLY. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE, YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GIVE MORE DETAIL. IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH, SERGEANT? OKAY. BETTER. BETTER RECORD KEEPING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. UH, MR. VENTO MORE, I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR'S TRYING TO SAY MORE, DO MORE ELABORATE ON YOUR DESCRIPTION ON WHY YOU HAD TO USE THE DOLLY'S. RIGHT. DON'T SAY IT NEEDED A DOLLY AND THAT'S IT. NO. SAY, HEY, THERE WAS A 2025 CAR THAT HAD E-BRAKE. YOU KNOW, BE MORE SPECIFIC. RIGHT. ON ISSUE. AND I THINK IT'LL BE EASIER FOR THE OFFICERS TO EXPLAIN TO THE CUSTOMER, HEY, YOU GOT A NEWER CAR. THIS HAS THIS FUTURE AND I THINK WE'LL UNDERSTAND. AND WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GONNA DO? IS THAT RIGHT WITH Y'ALL? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. I THINK I HEARD AN IDEA EARLIER TO CHARGE MORE FOR ACCIDENTS AND LESS FOR ARREST. THAT SEEMS TO BE, THAT'S WHAT I THINK PATH FORWARD. I THINK IT'S A FLAT FEE. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY CHARGE IN WITH THIS SYSTEM, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY CHARGE 450 IF YOU HAD TO WINCH IT AND USE A DOLLY. WHAT IF YOU JUST CHARGED THREE 50 ON EVERY SINGLE ACCIDENT AND THE OTHER PROPOSING OTHER OPTION WAS PAYING TWO 50 FOR DWI OR WHATEVER. I THINK IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR Y'ALL. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA MAKE Y'ALL KEEP MORE RECORDS IF YOU HAVE TO EVERY SINGLE TIME JUSTIFY USING IT OR NOT USING IT. VERSUS THERE MAY BE TIMES THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO USE IT, BUT YOU STILL GET TO CHARGE A HIGHER FEE UNDER THIS SUGGESTION. IT'LL KEEP DOWN ON COMPLAINTS. THAT'S WHAT WE CARE ABOUT. AND THE AUDITING PROCESS, THE RECORD KEEPING. HEY, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT SOUND, DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? I MEAN, IT MIGHT EVEN OUT BECAUSE WHAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE A DOLLAR OR A WINCH? YEAH. YOU'LL GO OUT ON THESE. HANG ON. GEORGE HAS A QUESTION. WHAT DO I DO? UH, SOMEBODY WANT PAY WITH THE CREDIT CARD. TURN YOUR MIC ON, GEORGE. KEEP YOUR, KEEP YOUR QUESTION RELEVANT TO THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THOUGH. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? DO DO Y'ALL OKAY. DO THAT. DO YOU TAKE UH, UH, LI UH, CREDIT CARDS? CREDIT CARDS? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANYWAY, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? PLEASE GO AHEAD. I BELIEVE SOME OF THE ACCIDENT, UH, SOME OF THE ARREST VEHICLES FOR TWO 50 WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE DOLLIED BECAUSE THEIR ELECTRONIC BRAKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL RUNNING INTO THE SAME OR ALL WHEEL DRIVE. WE'RE STILL RUNNING INTO THE SAME, THE SAME PROBLEM. SO YOU WOULD CHARGE THE SAME THREE 50 THEN? YEAH. IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO DOLLY IT AND YOU WOULD STILL MAKE THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS EXTRA. YEAH. YES. IF Y'ALL PUT THAT IN THERE, THEN YOU WOULDN'T WINCH IT. SO YOU'D, YOU'D GET THREE 50 GUESS. WELL, IT'S, IF WE ADD THAT TO IT, WELL, IF IT'S, IF IT'S 200 RIGHT NOW IT'S A DOLLAR A. WE IS A HUNDRED. JUST CAN'T YOU JUST MAKE IT 300 ON EVERY CAR LIGHT DUTY? 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING UP, WE'RE GOING UP, WE'RE GOING UP TO TWO 50 MINIMUM. SO IT AIN'T GONNA BE 300. SO YOU'RE SAYING TWO 50 PER CAR OR 3 50, 2 50 [01:00:01] FOR JUST A REGULAR ARREST AND REGULAR TOW AND THREE 50 FOR ANY ACCIDENT, REGARDLESS IF IT'S WINCHING AND DOLLY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. WELL, WELL I WAS PROPOSING THAT IT'D BE TWO 50 JUST FOR A REGULAR TOW. MM-HMM . AND THREE 50 FOR ANY ACCIDENT. WHETHER YOU USE A DOLLY A WINCH OR JUST A WINCH OR NOTHING, YOU MIGHT GO OUT, LIKE JESSICA WAS SAYING, YOU MIGHT GO OUT THERE AND IT'S A FENDER BENDER, BUT THEY'RE GETTING TOWED. YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT. THAT, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. Y'ALL HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH THAT? I THINK THAT'S RESTATE YOUR, IT'S MORE SIMPLE. YOUR PROPOSAL. RESTATE YOUR SUGGESTION. I PROPOSE A $250 FOR A REGULAR TOW AND THREE 50 FOR ANY ACCIDENT. BUT ON THE REGULAR TOW, IF THEY HAVE TO USE A DOLLY, INCREASE THAT TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS. A HUNDRED DOLLARS. IF IT'S SOME SITUATION WHERE IT HAS TO, HAS TO HAVE A DOLLY. YEP. DOLLIES OR WINCHING. BECAUSE SOME CHASES DO GO THROUGH FIELDS, THEN WE HAVE TO OKAY. IT'S SAME THING. YEAH. ALRIGHT. NOW THAT'S NOT FOR HEAVY DUTY. NO, SIR. OKAY. SO FOR HEAVY DUTY, WHAT DO Y'ALL PROPOSE FOR THAT? WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE FOR THAT? OH, I DON'T KNOW. COME ON. YOU DIDN'T. COME ON MR. PROPOSER. DOES IT NEED TO ALL BE IN ONE? THEY'RE GONNA BE SO EXCITED OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA, GEORGE, WE NEED, WE NEED SUGGESTION NOW. ALRIGHT. IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. WELL, WHAT'S THE SUGGESTION THEN FOR HEAVY TOES? WE'RE GONNA BE SO EXCITED. GEORGE, WE HAVEN'T FINISHED WHAT WE'RE DOING. JUST A SECOND PLEASE. ARE ARE WE DOING IT ALL IN ONE MOTION? WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING, IT'S GONNA COME BACK ANYWAY. OKAY. SO IT HAS TO BE REWRITTEN. SO WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE NUMBERS. WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION FOR HEAVY TOE? UM, I THINK IT'S GOOD THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW. THE NEW CHANGE 500 AND WITH TWO HOUR MINIMUM. WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AGREE WITH IT. I AGREE WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW. UH, STRAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR JD COULD ANSWER THIS, BUT ON ANY OF THE EXTRA STUFF, IT'S NOT REGULATED. RIGHT? LIKE THE, LIKE THE WINCHING AND CARGO AND IT'S THE DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HEAVY DUTY AND LIGHT DUTY IS HEAVY DUTY BY THE HOUR. SO IF THEY HAVE TO BE OUT THERE FOUR HOURS WINCHING A TRUCK OUT OF THE RIVER, THEY'RE GETTING PAID $500 AN HOUR. SO WE HAVE NO EXTRAS INVOLVED IN THAT. ALRIGHT, SO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO ANY YEAH, IT'S, SO WE'RE GOOD THERE. ALRIGHT. AND THE ONLY CHANGE WE DID ON THAT WAS, UH, THE MILES 40. YEAH, THE TIME FROM 40 MINUTES TO 50 MINUTES. MORE THAN $8 AND THEN $8 A MILE. CHIEF, ARE YOU GETTING THIS DOWN? I'M GETTING IT, YES SIR. OKAY. SO ONE OTHER THING. UM, AND THEN ON THE LIGHT, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO ASK THE COUNSELOR, DID WE DECIDE TO GIVE THEM THAT RIGHT NOW? IT'S UM, 20 MINUTES. WE WANT TO GO UP TO 25 MINUTES, RIGHT? 25 IS FINE. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? I'M OKAY WITH 25. 25. STEVE? YES, GEORGE. THAT'S FINE. YOU WANNA GIVE HIM MORE TIME? OKAY. IS THAT SUFFICIENT? ALRIGHT. IS THAT OKAY WITH Y'ALL? YES SIR. NOW KEEP IN MIND ALL THIS STUFF IS, IS CONTINGENT TO GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC. SO IF WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC, WE MAY HAVE TO REDO THIS STUFF NOW. UH, THE STAFF WILL HAVE TO REDRAW THIS, RUN IT BY THE ATTORNEY PROBABLY, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO RATIFY IT IT IN A SOON FUTURE MEETING EVERYBODY. OKAY? BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FRED, YOU GOOD? ROY, YOU GOOD? WE GOTTA BE THERE. JT, SERGEANT CHIEF COUNSEL. THANK Y'ALL. SORRY. IT'S ALRIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT ITEM. TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE. HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PULLED? ITEM THREE, BEEZER HOMES? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, [4. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-04, an Ordinance ordering that a General Municipal Election be held on May 2, 2026, and ordering a Run-Off Election, if required, on June 13, 2026, for the purpose of electing city officials; providing requirements for placement on the official ballot; designating the County Elections Administrator to conduct the elections; designating voting locations and hours; requiring notice of such elections; adopting the early voting clerk for the elections and providing rules and requirements for early voting; creating an early voting ballot board; reestablishing the order of names on the ballot; and providing for severability. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ] WE'LL GO ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH ZERO FOUR IN ORDINANCE. ORDERING THAT A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION BE HELD ON MAY 2ND, 2026 AND ORDERING A RUNOFF IF NEED BE IF REQUIRED ON JUNE THE 13TH, 2026 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING CITY OFFICIALS, PROVIDING REQUIREMENTS FOR PLACEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL BALLOT, DESIGNATING COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR TO CONDUCT THE ELECTIONS, DESIGNATING VOTING LOCATIONS AND HOURS REQUIRING NOTICE FOR SUCH ELECTIONS, ADOPTING, [01:05:02] UH, ADOPTING THE EARLY VOTING CLERK FOR THE ELECTIONS IN PROVIDING RULES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR EARLY VOTING, CREATING AN EARLY VOTING BALLOT BOARD AND ESTABLISHING THE ORDER OF NAMES ON THE BALLOT. PROVIDING FOR, FOR SEVERABILITY. DANIELLE? THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, FOR THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT THREE ITEMS YOU ALL HAVE, UM, UNDER SEPARATE COVER AT THE DAES. I DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION, THE EXHIBITS TO THESE ORDINANCES, UM, UNTIL TODAY FROM FORT BEND COUNTY. SO WHAT YOU HAVE PRINTED THERE JUST HAS THOSE EXHIBITS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, THE ELECTION FOR ROSENBERG CITY OFFICIALS WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 2ND, 2026. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH OH FOUR WILL ORDER THE ELECTION FOR THE POSITIONS OF MAYOR TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT LARGE POSITION NUMBER ONE AND TWO AND FOUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBERS SETTING VARIOUS ELECTION DATES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION AND A RUNOFF ELECTION IF NEEDED. THE EXHIBITS THAT ONE SAYS IT WASN'T THERE. UM, BUT ANYWAY, IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. POLLING LOCATIONS. DID THIS ADDRESS THAT VOTING LOCATIONS DESIGNATING LOCATIONS? YES. BUT THEY'RE NOT LISTED IN HERE. RIGHT? THEY'RE THE EXHIBITS TO THE ORDINANCE AND THEY'RE NOT IN WHAT'S IN THIS OTHER PACKAGE. YES SIR. WHAT WAS, UM, PLACED AT THE DAAS? IT HAS THE ELECTION DAY IN THE EARLY VOTING. OH. AND THEY ARE, UM, PRELIMINARY AND THEY WILL, WHY DID IT CORRECT THAT? UH, WELL WE NEED TIME TO LOOK AT 'EM. JUST A SECOND HERE. WHERE ARE THE PO EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS? EXHIBIT B IS EARLY VOTING. WELL, WHAT PAGE IS EXHIBIT B? THE VERY LAST PAGE. SEE THAT'S ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS MAYBE BE THE LAST PACKAGE. SORRY, LAST PAGE. ALRIGHT. UM, WHERE, UM, I'M INTERESTED AROUND HERE. IT SAYS, UH, BAY MOORE ROAD, THE ROSENBERG ANNEX, UM, OFF OF READING ROAD, THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. OKAY. THE ANNEX BAY ANNEX, YEAH. BEASLEY CITY HALL'S NOT TOO FAR. GEORGE MEMORIAL LIBRARY, ELECTION OFFICE IN THE ANNEX. THE GEORGE MEMORIAL LIBRARY AND, AND UH, THE LIBRARY. THOSE THE SAME, SAME PLACES? MM-HMM . YEAH. PRELIMINARY DRAFT. SO WHY ARE THEY SPLIT UP BETWEEN THE TOP HALF AND THE LOWER HALF? BECAUSE THE LOWER HALF, IF YOU'LL LOOK ON SUNDAY, APRIL 26TH, THOSE SITES ARE CLOSED ON THAT SUNDAY. LIBRARY'S CLOSED. OKAY. MM-HMM . ON THAT FINAL DAY FOR EARLY VOTING OUTING. AND AND A LOT OF THE REASONS FOR THIS IS 'CAUSE WE HAVE OPEN VOTING ALL OVER THE COUNTY, RIGHT? SO THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES VOTING OTHER THAN ROSENBERG, I THINK. YES. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. MM-HMM . WHARTON COUNTY JUNIOR COLLEGE ALSO. ALRIGHT, WELL WE GOT THE ANNEX. WE GOT, AND THEN FOR ELECTION DAY, THE ELECTIONS OFFICE HAVE, YES. AND THEN FOR ELECTION DAY WE DO HAVE CITY HALL. HOW ABOUT THESE SITES ALSO? MM-HMM . ARE WE VOTING AT THE ANNEX ON ELECTION DAY AND THE LIBRARY? MM-HMM . THEY'LL BE OPEN AS WELL. YOU ARE YOU POSITIVE? WELL, IT SAYS, UM, GEORGE MEMORIAL LIBRARY GULF VIEW DRIVE FOR ELECTION DAY. UM, AND THAT'S EX THAT'S PAGE EIGHT. MM-HMM . I THAT IS ON PAGE SEVEN AND EIGHT. UM, SO THE LIBRARY AND THE ANNEX IS THERE AND THEN THE ANNEX. YES. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHERE IS THE ANNEX FOR ELECTION DAY VOTING? IT'S ON THE SEC. UH, PAGE EIGHT OF NINE. MM-HMM . YEAH. THE ROSENBERG ANNEX BUILDING RIGHT ABOVE CITY HALL. OH, THEY HAVE IT UNDER OURS INSTEAD OF UNDER YES. MAY. IT'S UNDER ROSENBERG AND CITY HALL. MM-HMM . AND HE HAS SINCE ADDED IT SAYS TBT FOR THE VOTING LOCATION. BUT HE HAS SINCE ADDED THE, UM, COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN THAT ONE SPOT IN THE ELECTION OFFICE. MM-HMM . I'M JUST THINKING OF STUFF IN THE CITY. [01:10:03] WHEN PEOPLE ASK UNDOUBTEDLY THEY WILL ASK, WHERE CAN I GO VOTE THE ANNEX IN CITY HALL AND THEN ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND IF YOU'RE SOUTH OF THE FREEWAY, YOU CAN GO TO THE ELECTION OFFICE IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT IS. AND IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO THE EAST SIDE, YOU CAN GO TO THE LIBRARY. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THE COUNTY'S GONNA HAVE ALL THESE SITES OPEN FOR A LITTLE OVER ELECTION LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S, SO THAT'S FINE. WELL, IT'S NOT JUST US. THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES, UM, THAT CONTRACT WITH. YEAH, WELL THAT'S GOOD. THE COUNTY. ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO THROUGH THE LINE AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. FELIX, LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NO, SIR. THE ELECTION? NOT AT THIS MOMENT, NO. UH, THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO KNOW AS CANDIDATES IS WHEN AND WHERE AND TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN ASKED WHERE TO VOTE BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE CONVENIENT BECAUSE FOLKS WILL LOOK FOR ANY EXCUSE NOT TO VOTE AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT BECAUSE OF AN INCONVENIENT, UH, LOCATION. CONVENIENCE IS IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING. ALRIGHT, UH, STEVE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE ITEMS? NO. JESSICA? NO QUESTIONS. RICHARD? NO, GEORGE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO DO WE, WE NEED, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. YES. YES SIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION MADE BY JESSICA. SECOND BY STEVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE PUSH. YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PLEASE PUSH. NO, HECTOR HAD TO STEP OUT, BUT I'M SURE HE WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT, UM, HE IS HERE. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'LL MOVE ON. JUST, JUST MISS THAT VOTE. IT'S, IT'S ALRIGHT. IT WASN'T IT'S ELECTION, RIGHT? IT'S, YEAH, IT WOULDN'T, IT WASN'T CLOSE POLL LOCATIONS. IT WAS PROBABLY, WAS IT THREE TO THREE OR NO? NO, IT WAS, NO, IT WAS SIX TO ZERO. OKAY. TELL ME ABOUT [5. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-05, an Ordinance ordering a Special Election to be held on May 2, 2026, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters, for adoption or rejection, of proposed amendments to the existing home-rule charter of the City of Rosenberg, as amended; and making provisions for the conduct of the election. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ] THAT CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE. ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON MAY 2ND, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO QUALIFIED VOTERS FOR ADOPTION OR REJECTION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING HOME RULE CHARTER IS AMENDED MAKING PROVISIONS FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION. DANIELLE? YES. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH OH FIVE IS AN ORDINANCE ORDERING THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY MAY 2ND. THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IS SHOWN IN, IN SUCH ORDINANCE, THE BALLOT WILL ALLOW VOTERS TO VOTE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST EACH OF THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FIVE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. CITY COUNCIL MUST TAKE ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE NO LATER THAN FEBRUARY 13TH IN ORDER FOR THESE ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON THE MAY 2ND SPECIAL ELECTION, UM, BALLOT. AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE, UM, THE VERSION IN FRONT OF YOU THAT HAS THE EXHIBITS FOR THOSE POLLING LOCATIONS. ALRIGHT, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. WELL, THIS IS OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO ADD OR TAKE OUT ANYTHING. AND YOU ARE CERTAINLY AT LIBERTY EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DISCUSSED THESE. IT'S OKAY. HECTOR, IF YOU OR ANYBODY IF Y'ALL WISH TO ADD OR TAKE OUT OR CHANGE ANYTHING. THIS IS OUR, LIKE I SAID, OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY IS, UH, LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND TO GO OVER 'EM. UH, LET ME SUMMARIZE THEM. UH, THE FIRST ONE, PROPOSED, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT ONE HAS TO DO WITH COMPENSATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS PROPOSED NUMBER TWO HAS TO DO WITH THE REMOVING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PROPOSAL NUMBER THREE HAS TO DO WITH BENEFITS. SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES, UH, COMPARABLE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR COUNT FOR, UH, ACCESS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS COMPARABLE TO THE STAFF. PROPOSED NUMBER FOUR. DID I MISS IT? PROPOSED NUMBER FOUR HAS TO DO WITH, UM, PETITIONS. MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO PETITION. PROPOSAL NUMBER FIVE, UM, MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO, FOR THE CITY TO, FOR THE COUNCIL, I SHOULD SAY, TO BORROW MONEY WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL. UM, RIGHT NOW THE COUNCIL CAN PUT ITEMS, UH, CAN CALL BOND ELECTIONS AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE UNANIMOUS FOR THAT. THAT CAN BE A SIMPLE FOUR TO THREE VOTE. BUT IF YOU WISH TO BORROW, IF, IF THIS PASSED, [01:15:01] IF YOU WISH TO BORROW WITHOUT A BOND ELECTION, IT'S GONNA SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE, UH, UNANIMOUS CONSENT. UM, PROPO PROPOSAL. WHAT WAS THAT? WHERE AM I? WAS THAT IT? JUST FIVE OF THEM? IS THAT THE END OF IT? GOD, ALL THAT DISCUSSION AND WE ONLY CAME UP WITH FIVE THINGS. LABOR. WELL, I MEAN EVERYTHING ELSE WAS NOPE. NOT LEGAL. NOPE. NOT LEGAL. NOPE. NOT LEGAL. OKAY. SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE THINGS ANYBODY WISH TO, AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM AT LEAST TWO, MAYBE THREE TIMES. ANYBODY WISH TO, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THE EASY PART HERE. ANYBODY WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? ANYBODY WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? ALRIGHT. I WAS GONNA SAY IT WAS HARD ENOUGH JUST TO GET 'EM TO ADD THESE FIVE. ANY ANYBODY WISH TO TAKE OFF ANYTHING? IF NOT, WE NEED A MOTION. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS PROPOSED SECOND. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND, AND AGAIN, LET ME JUST SAY BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, THERE MAY BE THINGS ON HERE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. GET READY TO DO IT. TELL FOLKS YOUR VIEW AND GET 'EM PERSUADED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. ALRIGHT, I'M IN FAVOR. I'LL VOTE YES. ITEM PASSES. SIX IN ONE ABSTENTION. ALRIGHT, [6. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-06, a Joint Election Ordinance of the City of Rosenberg and the Temporary Board of Directors of the Rosenberg Crime Control and Prevention District, ordering a Special Election to be held jointly with Fort Bend County on May 2, 2026, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters of the City of Rosenberg, a proposition on the creation of the Rosenberg Crime Control and Prevention District and the adoption of a sales and use tax at a rate of one-fourth of one percent (0.25%); providing for the reduction of the sales and use tax currently levied for the Rosenberg Development Corporation from one-half of one percent (0.50%) to one-fourth of a one percent (0.25%) in order to maintain the same overall sales and use tax rate within the city; prescribing the form of ballot proposition; approving and summarizing the Crime Control and Prevention District plan and budget and proposed tax rate; designating early voting polling places and hours; ordering notice of the election to be given as prescribed by law; and providing a savings clause, severability clause, and an effective date. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ] WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. HAVE A SPEAKER. WE HAVE SEAT ITEM NUMBER SIX. WE HAVE A SPEAKER. HAVE A SPEAKER. SPEAKER. OKAY, SUSAN. OKAY, SUSAN, YOU WANT TO HEAD UP HERE? UM, WE'LL LET SUSAN TALK AFTER YOU DO THE, I, UH, READ THE, EXCUSE ME, READ THE ITEM WHILE SUSAN'S HEADING UP HERE. OKAY. ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 26 0 6 AUTHORIZES A JOINT SPECIAL ELECTION BETWEEN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, THE ROSENBERG CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT IN FORT BEND COUNTY TO BE HELD ON MAY 2ND. THE PURPOSE OF THE ELECTION IS TO SUBMIT TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG A PROPOSITION REGARDING THE CREATION OF THE ROSENBERG CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT AND THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX AT A RATE OF ONE FOURTH OF 1% TO FUND CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS TO ENSURE THERE IS NO INCREASE TO THE CITY'S OVERALL SALES AND USE TAX RATE. THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES FOR A CORRESPONDING REDUCTION IN THE SALES AND USE TAX CURRENTLY LEVIED FOR THE RDC FROM ONE HALF OF 1% TO ONE FOURTH OF 1% CONTINGENT UPON VOTER APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSITION. THE ORDINANCE FURTHER DESCRIBES, PRESCRIBES THE FORM OF THE BALLOT PROPOSITION, APPROVES AND SUMMARIZES THE CRIME CONTROL AND, UH, PREVENTION DISTRICT'S PROPOSED PLAN, BUDGET AND TAX RATE DESIGNATES EARLY VOTING POLLING LOCATIONS AND HOURS AND ORDERS THAT NOTICE OF THE ELECTION BE GIVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAW. THE ORDINANCE ALSO INCLUDES STANDARD SAVINGS AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSES AND ESTABLISHES AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND WHAT YOU HAVE AT THE DS ALSO HAS THE PLAN AND BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST CCPD MEETING AS AN EXHIBIT, AS WELL AS THOSE NEW POLLING LOCATIONS FROM THE COUNTY. OKAY. THANK YOU MRS. TON. HOW ARE YOU DOING SUSAN? JUST FINE. THANK YOU FOR COMING. MY NAME, WHAT'S SUSAN TON? I LIVE AT 10 14 CLARE AVENUE ROSENBERG. I HOPE YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO SPEAK UNI UNINTERRUPTED FROM MY THREE MINUTES. I WILL BE BRIEF. RDC DOES MANY THINGS FOR THE CITY. MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE HELP THAT THEY PROVIDE NEW WATER AND SEWER LINES ARE NEEDED ALONG OUR FRONTAGE ROADS TOWARDS BEASLEY, ALONG SPUR 10 AND ALONG 90 A. THESE AREAS ARE RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE HOLDUP IS CITY WATER AND SEWER. RDC HELPS PAY FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE LINES TO THE DOLLAR STORE COMPLEX. AND NOW A CIA'S CISD IS PUTTING IN SCHOOLS THERE. RDC CAN SUPPLEMENT THE CITY'S BUDGET TO CREATE NEW BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPMENT. WHY DO WE NEED A CRIME PREVENTION FUND? HAS THE BUDGET BEEN SO SEVERELY CUT BACK BY CONTINUAL TAX RATE CUTS THAT WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT? WHY TAKE 50% OF THE RDC BUDGET? IS THIS THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE THAT YOU CAN TAKE FROM RD, STILL SEE AND STILL REMAIN VIABLE? PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT IS JUST A BACK DOOR TO SECURE FUNDS FOR OUR POLICE BECAUSE OUR BUDGET CANNOT SUPPORT IT. THANK, THANK YOU SUSAN. THANK YOU SUSAN. [01:20:01] ALRIGHT, CHIEF, DO YOU WANNA READ THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY HERE? I DO. SHE READ IT? WELL, YOU READ THE TOP ITEM. NO, I READ DID YOU READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH? I READ, I READ THE . OKAY. DID IT, DOES UH, ANYBODY WISH TO COMMENT ON SUSAN'S COMMENTS OR ON THE ITEM IN GENERAL? THIS ITEM IS FOR THE CC PD PD UM, ITEM ON THE BALLOT. WE ARE SUGGESTING REDUCING THE RDCS, UH, I GUESS THE COMMITMENT OR NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE EIGHTH. NOPE, IT'S ONE FOURTH. CURRENTLY THE RDC RECEIVES HALF A PERCENT AND WE'RE SUGGESTING REALLOCATING HALF OF THAT HALF PERCENT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CRIME PREVENTION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT. CRIME ROSENBERG, CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT. HOW MUCH IS THAT IN MONEY? THAT HALF PER HALF PERCENT CHOICE JUST TO, SO THE CITIZENS KNOW ABOUT ABOUT 3.4 MILLION A YEAR. SO WE'LL BE LOSING 3.4 MILLION FROM RDC NOW IF THIS PASSES IN MAY. THAT'S CORRECT. REALLOCATING YEAH. REAL. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, NOT LOSING IT. NOT LOSING IT, BUT RDC WILL BE LOSING IT 'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA RECOUP 3.4 MILLION NO WAY OTHER NOW, IF RD SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD WE FUND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT RDC WAS FUNDING IN THE, IN THE PAST IF THEY, IF WE NEED IT, ARE WE GONNA GET IT FROM GENERAL FUNDS? UM, YES. WE'LL HAVE TO EITHER GET IT FROM GENERAL FUND OR SOME OTHER SOURCE. WELL, DON'T WE SOMETIMES USE GRANTS, UM, FOR SOME OF OUR DRAINAGE OR OTHER PROJECTS? YEP, SURE. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? HAVE WE USED OTHER SOURCES? YES, WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES, BUT YES. BUT A LOT OF THOSE GRANTS AND ALSO COUNTY MOBILITY FUNDS ALSO REQUIRE MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE CITY. SO THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE THE CITY WILL HAVE TO FUND IN ORDER TO MATCH COUNTY MOBILITY OR GRANTS AND SUSAN'S CONCERN. IT'S A VALID CONCERN. UM, IN THE PAST, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DID THE, UH, THE DOLLAR TREE IN ORDER TO GET DOLLAR TREE TO AGREE TO COME, THE CITY HAD TO AGREE TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER LINES TO, TO THAT AREA. AND RDC PAID A BIG PART OF IT. BUT WHAT ELSE PAID A BIG PART OF IT? OUR WATER WASTEWATER FUND AND OUR GENERAL FUND. SO, AND WHEN I SAY I'M LOOKING OVER AT JOYCE, JOYCE WAS NOT THE CITY MANAGER. SHE WAS THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. UM, AND UH, I THINK SUSAN WAS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. SO THERE'S MORE THAN ONE. WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE BIG PROJECTS, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE CONTRIBUTION TO 'EM. UM, SO IT'S THE HOPE THAT IT WOULD, UH, IF THAT CONTRIBUTION GOES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEN, UM, PERHAPS, UH, THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS NOW, UM, THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS WELL. SO WHAT, WHICH ARE SUGGESTING, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ANY OF YOUR MEETINGS DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WORK AND IT'S, UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING NOW THAT THAT 3.4 MILLION, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS GETTING 15 MILLION IN THEIR BUDGET, WE'RE GONNA REDUCE 3.40, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. NO, I'M, I'M ASKING, I'M, I, I'M, THAT'S, AND I'M ANSWERING THAT WILL BE AS, AS AS IT IS. SO THAT'D BE A EXTRA BONUS. IT WOULD BE THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE HELD RIGHT HERE WHEN WE HAVE, UH, BUDGET MEETINGS. WE HAVE FINANCE DIRECTOR, UH, UH, WHO'S ALSO A VERY GOOD CITY MANAGER. SHE'S GOT FOLKS THAT WORK FOR HER. WE HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE'S GOING TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET AND, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T GIVE WHAT THEY WANT. WE GIVE WHAT WE FEEL THEY NEED AND WE GET THOSE. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET 'EM FROM THE, UH, CITIZENS. AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION. UM, NOW I COULD, I COULD SAY, IN FACT, I WILL SAY WHEN THE DISCUSSION WAS HERE IN, UM, WHEN WE HAD, UH, UH, A PREVIOUS MAYOR, UH, WE COULD, UH, THE DISCUSSION CAME. AND HECTOR, I THINK I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IT AND I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU. WHAT DID Y'ALL SAY WHEN IT CAME TO, WELL, ACTUALLY YOU WEREN'T ON COUNCIL, BUT AFTER, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD, LET THE VOTERS DECIDE, LET 'EM DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A FIRE DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN EXISTING DEPARTMENT THAT, [01:25:01] THAT WE'RE GETTING TO USE FOR $1 A YEAR. LET'S BORROW $20 MILLION FOR THAT AND LET'S BORROW $30 MILLION TO PUT OVER HERE ON, PUT A NEW BUILDING OUT HERE ON, ON AIRPORT. LET'S JUST LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. SO UNDER THAT SAME PRE PREMISE, THIS IS WHAT IF WE VOTE TONIGHT TO DO, WE'LL, LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. DO THEY WISH TO REALLOCATE HALF OF THE RDC MONEY TO SOMETHING TANGIBLE? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, BUT I GET COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT SAY, WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEEDING. WE GOT LOUD NOISE, WE GOT LOUD THIS, LOUD CARS LOUD THAT I, I, I RARELY, I RARELY GET COMPLAINTS THAT SAY WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS TOWN. BUT I DO GET COMPLAINTS ON THE OTHER. SO THAT'S WHERE MY VIEW IS. NOW KEEP, LET'S KEEP IN MIND THE RDC. UM, LET'S, LET'S NOT WOE AS ME ON THE RDC. THE RDC WILL STILL UNDER, UNDER CURRENT NUMBERS, BE THE, UH, BE THE RECIPIENT OF $3.4 MILLION. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. BUT TO BE, UH, REAL ON YOUR, ON TO ANSWER YOUR QUE UH, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THAT, WE'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE NOT BARRING, LIKE YOU SAID, TAKE IT TO THE CITIZENS. AND A LOT OF CITIZENS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT RDC DOES UNLESS THEY DO, IF THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT RDC UH DOES. AND THE REASON I'VE LEARNED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, MARY, IS 'CAUSE I'VE SERVED IN IT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BEFORE I STARTED SERVING HERE. THAT WHAT RDC REALLY GOES OUT AND I THINK, AND I'M ALL FOR, FOR SAFETY 'CAUSE I LEFT MY GARAGE DOOR OPEN. I'M NOTHING'S MISSING. SO I'M ALL FOR SAFETY FOR SUPPORTING THE DE UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT LIKE I SAID, I WISH IT WOULD'VE DONE THROUGH GENERAL FUND, NOT THROUGH RDC. I WOULD'VE SUPPORTED ANYTHING WITH THE POLICE. BUT MY QUESTION TO THAT IS, WHAT ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE STREETS THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE MOBILITY PROJECT. NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IT FROM GENERAL FUNDS TO REPLACE SOME OF THESE STREETS. I MEAN, SOME OF THESE ARE ARE LIKE BEEN WHAT, 1960? 1950? YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LIVE AT SOME OF OUR STREETS ARE, WELL, ONE THING RDC DOESN'T PAY FOR RE REHAB ON STREETS. I THOUGHT THEY DID. CAN YOU RE IS WE DON'T REDO STREETS, UH, JOYCE OR WE JUST DO NEW STREETS? LET ME, MAYBE I'M, I I THINK TYPICALLY RDC DOES NEW STREETS. I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE RDC PAY TO REDO A STREET REHAB STREET, OKAY. I MEAN, BUT THEY DO REDO SIDEWALKS AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, AND THEY PROBABLY COULD REDO SOME IF IT'S IN A COMMERCIAL AREA. SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT POINT, THAT POINT IS TAKEN. IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOUR, YOUR POINT IS TAKEN. HEY, LISTEN, RD C'S NOT A BAD GROUP. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A FUNDING MECHANISM. YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT, I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THERE WAS A BIG, UH, BIG I GUESS DRAMA ABOUT RDC EVEN BEING APPROVED HERE IN THE CITY. PEOPLE WERE LIKE, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY AN EXTRA HALF A CENT SALES TAX. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? AND THE MERCHANTS DIDN'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT, HEY MAN, THIS IS GONNA COST OUR CUSTOMER BASE MORE MONEY. WELL WHAT THE RDC THAT'S FUNDED BY THE SALES TAX, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE WITH SAYING THAT WE CAN JUST GET IT OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND OR CHARGE MORE TAXES OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THAT IS ONLY PAID INTO BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMIT VERSUS SALES TAX CAN BE PAID BY ANYBODY WHO PAYS SALES TAX HERE REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE. AND THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH ALLOWING ALL THESE PEOPLE TO BUILD IN THE ETJ AND CHASING BUILDERS OUT TO THE ETJ IS 'CAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST MOVING ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM US INTO THE ETJ, BUT THEY'RE STILL USING OUR POLICE SERVICE ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE JUST NOT PAYING FOR IT. SO I DO SUPPORT PAYING FOR THIS OUT OF SALES TAX BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE ABLE TO TAX ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE CHASED OUT TO THE ETJ. SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT FAIR. SO YOU SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE ETJ STILL BOTHER OUR POLICE, SO WE NEED TO PAY FOR IT. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT OTHERS THINK. 'CAUSE WE NEED A MOTION. BUT HECTOR, YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. AND IT'S FAIR. IT'S FAIR. AND NOBODY, HEY, NOT OPPOSED TO THE SAFETY OF, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. I GOTCHA. NO, I I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT I'M NOT OPPOSED FOR SAFETY OR FOR ANYTHING ON THE POLICE. I AM OPPOSED TAKING THE MONEY FROM RDC. RIGHT. AND BY THE WAY, NOW IF YOU SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA FUND IT THROUGH GENERAL FUND, I'LL BE ALL FOR IT. YEAH. THAT'S KIND OF UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND PAY TAXES HERE BECAUSE, WELL, THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER. NOBODY, NOBODY'S NEITHER, NOBODY HERE IS RIGHT OR WRONG ON THIS. IT'S, I WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF [01:30:01] A FUNDING MECHANISM. I THINK AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL THESE DOLLARS COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO BE BUDGETED. SO IF IT, IF IT'S A BIG DRAIN, ONE OR THE OTHER, WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST ANYWAYS. UM, WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE. RICHARD, THIS IS KIND OF YOUR IDEA ON THIS CCP. YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE WE TAKE A NOTE? I'M PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK WE'LL GO WITH IT. LIKE IT'S ALRIGHT. UH, GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THAT'S ABSOLUTELY OKAY. WE GO TO FELIX. FELIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK ON THE WHOLE CCP THING? I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. UM, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. ALRIGHT, NOW LISTEN, TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT WE HAVE TO PICK, FINALIZE. DO Y'ALL WANT HALF OF THE HALF A CENT OR ONE EIGHTH OR ONE EIGHTH OF A HALF A CENT? UM, UNDER CURRENT FUNDING, IF WE DID A A QUARTER CENT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 3.4 MILLION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF WE WENT AN EIGHTH OF A CENT, IT IT WOULD BE 1.7. SO, UM, STEVE, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE 1.7. YOU WANNA GO THE 1.7? ALRIGHT. UM, JESSICA, YOU WANT TO GO? DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE LEVEL THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED? MY SUGGESTION WAS THE FULL QUARTER POINT INSTEAD OF AN EIGHTH OF A POINT. HONESTLY, I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE EITHER IN FAVOR OF IT OR NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. SO I DON'T THINK THE CHANGE IN THE AMOUNT WILL MATTER. I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT WON'T VOTE FOR IT EITHER WAY. UM, BUT I, I WOULD BE FINE IF, IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD HELP IT PASS TO DO THE ONE EIGHTH, BUT I, I DON'T PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK IT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST ADAMANTLY OPPOSED WHO WON'T VOTE FOR IT EITHER WAY. SO, ALRIGHT, HERE'S MY MOTION. I MOVE THAT, I MOVE THAT WE MAKE IT ONE QUARTER, WHICH WOULD BE HALF OF THE RDC. THAT'S MY MOTION. WHO WILL SECOND IT? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY PUSHING? YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH RED. NO. ALRIGHT. ONE. NO. SIX. YES. NEXT ITEM, [7. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-4025, a Resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute, for and on behalf of the City, a Joint Election Agreement and Contract for Election Services for the 2026 General Municipal, the Special Charter Amendment Election, and a Special Crime Control and Prevention District Election, by and between the City and Fort Bend County. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ] CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 4 0 2 5. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE FOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. A JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES FOR THE 2026 GENERAL MUNICIPAL AND SPECIAL CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION AND A SPECIAL CRIME CONTROL AND PREVENTION DISTRICT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND FORT BEND COUNTY. DANIELLE? THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS CONTRACT WITH FORT BEND COUNTY PROVIDES FOR THE FORT BEND COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR TO COORDINATE, SUPERVISE, AND HANDLE ALL ASPECTS OF ADMINISTERING THE MAY 2ND, UH, GENERAL ELECTION, THE SPECIAL CHARTER AMENDMENT ELECTION, AND THE SPECIAL CCPD ELECTION. ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, THE CITY WILL PAY FORT BEND COUNTY FOR EQUIPMENT SUPPLY SERVICES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS RELATED TO THE MAY 2ND ELECTION. THE FORT BEND COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR WILL SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE ELECTION, BUT THE CITY WILL REMAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LAWFUL CONDUCT OF THE ELECTIONS. THE FORT BEND COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR WILL PROVIDE ADVISORY SERVICES AND CONNECTION WITH DECISIONS TO BE MADE AND ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY THE OFFICERS OF THE CITY. UM, WHAT WAS PLACED BEFORE YOU AT THE DAAS? UM, IS THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT I RECEIVED FROM FORT BEND COUNTY AND UM, THE EXHIBITS ARE ATTACHED, THE POLLING LOCATIONS. OKAY. SO THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN EARLIER? UM, WELL THE, I DIDN'T GET THE ELECTION CONTRACT UNTIL UM, REALLY LATE, LATE LAST NIGHT. SO IT WASN'T IN YOUR PACKET LAST WEEK, BUT THE LOCATIONS ARE YES, THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THE EXACT SAME EXHIBITS AS THE ORDINANCES. MM-HMM . JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHAT DO THEY CHARGE IN THE CITY THIS YEAR TO RUN THE ELECTION? WELL, IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE, BUT IT'S FOR ALL THREE AND IT'S $20,078. BUT HE DID STATE IN AN EMAIL THAT IT WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOT LOWER THAN THAT, BUT I WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THE BILL AFTER THE ELECTIONS. SO ABOUT 20,000. IT COULD BE LOWER IT, HE SAID IT WILL BE [01:35:01] LOWER, BUT YES. THAT'S WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE CONTRACT. WELL, IT'S A SHARED COST. IT IS. MM-HMM . THEY'VE ADDED, UM, MORE LOCATIONS, UM, MORE POLL WORKERS. SO OF COURSE ALL THAT COSTS MORE. YEAH. WELL BACK IN THE DAY THEY USED TO HAVE A, UH, CITY ELECTIONS. WELL THEY STILL DO ON ELECTION DAY, BUT THEY HAD EARLY VOTING. EVEN. EVEN HERE. YEAH. HERE TOO. BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO CONDUCT BUSINESS WHILE YOU'RE DOING THE WATER BILLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, WHO WILL MAKE THE MOTION? WE NEED TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. APPROVE FOR CONTRACT. ALRIGHT, JESSICA. THANK YOU. ONE SECOND. JESSICA. HECTOR, THANK Y'ALL. YOU'LL PUSH YES IF Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTION. PUSH GREEN. YES. GOTTA DO THAT. JESSICA. I HIT IT. I THOUGHT IT. YOU VOTED. I SAW YOU. OH, I PUSHED IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FROZEN. THERE IT GOES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSED. THAT MACHINE DIDN'T, DIDN'T WANT YOU TO NO, THAT MACHINE MUST BE A . NO MACHINE. [8. Hold Executive Session for economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code. ] ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. R UH, NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT. THAT'S A JOKE BY THE WAY. UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5, 1 0.087, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, WHAT ARE THE WISHES OF COUNSEL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND. THANK YOU JESSICA. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO EXECUTIVE SESSION PRESS YET? YES, STEVE. UH, STEVE. ALRIGHT. YEAH. I'M PUSHING. YES. AND IT DOESN'T WANT TO GO. IT'S NOT, IT'S GRAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. RICHARD AND GEORGE. Y'ALL GONNA VOTE? GO SECOND. [9. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Regular Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session. ] ALL RIGHT. WE WILL RECONVENE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT WHAT ARE THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION BY JESSICA, SECOND BY HECTOR. ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE THAT WISH TO ADJOURN. PUSH GREEN. YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH RED. NO. OKAY. I PUSH REST. I THINK IT'S UNANIMOUS. WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.