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THAT'S THE SAME WAY.[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber]
YOU GOTTA, ALRIGHT.SO PASTOR LANGI, ARE YOU HERE? YES.
WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG ALMIGHTY GOD.
WITHOUT YOUR HELP, OUR LABOR IS USELESS.
GRACE, THIS GATHERING WITH YOUR PRESENCE AND LET YOUR SPIRIT OF WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING, RESPECT, AND SERVICE, FILL THIS ASSEMBLY AND GUIDE ITS PROCEEDINGS.
AND WHEN THIS MEETING IS OVER, GRANT ALL THE PARTICIPANTS A SAFE TRIP BACK HOME AND BLESS US ALL WITH A PEACEFUL AND RESTFUL NIGHT.
I ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THE VISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO, TO THIS.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANY AWARDS OR PROCLAMATIONS, BUT WE DO
[ Announcements.]
HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.WE'LL SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE I READ THE PRE-PRINTED ANNOUNCEMENTS.
ANYBODY WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? FELIX GOT ANYTHING TO ANNOUNCE? NOT YOU CAN SKIP ME OVER.
WELL, THERE MAY, NO, THERE MAY NO BE, NO REASON TO COME BACK OVER WHEN YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT.
RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO, I DON'T.
GEORGE GOT ANYTHING YOU WANNA ANNOUNCE? NO.
YOU GOT A COUPLE OF MORE MEETINGS? YOU'RE NOT FREE YET.
WELL, I'M GONNA MEET 'EM RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S RUNOFF ELECTION? EARLY VOTING DATES OF, OF VOTING IS GOING ON THIS WEEK.
YOU VOTED THE OLD WALMART AND ROSENBERG, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FORT BEND COUNTY ANNEX ON 45 20 READING ROAD SATURDAY.
IT'S NOON TO SIX THE NEXT WEEK.
LAST TWO DAYS OF EARLY VOTING.
THAT'S 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM THE ACTUAL RUNOFF DATE.
ELECTION DAY IS SATURDAY, JUNE 13TH.
YOU CAN VOTE AT THE ANNEX OR YOU CAN VOTE HERE AT THIS LOCATION.
IN THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
ALRIGHT, FISH TASTIC SEABORNE CREEK NATURE PARK.
THE CITY'S HOSTING A CHILDREN'S FISHING TOURNAMENT THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 4TH.
UH, SIX 30 TO 8:30 PM AT THE LAKE IN SEABORN CREEK NATURE PARK.
THIS EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO CHILDREN.
FOUR TO 16, NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV GOV.
MOTHER SON DANCE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER.
NOW IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MUCH THE TICKETS ARE.
WELL THAT'S REASONABLE FOR, FOR, FOR THIS CITY OF ROSENBERG MOTHER SON DANCE RETURNS ON FRIDAY, JUNE 12TH FROM SIX TO NINE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV.
NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK, WE'RE JUST GONNA ANNOUNCE NOT TALK.
WELL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK.
I'M SURE THEY'VE ASKED THE COUNCIL, THEY'VE CERTAINLY EXPRESSED CONCERN TO ME.
WHEN IS THE CITY GONNA MOSQUITO SPRAY? WELL, THEY'RE GONNA START VERY SOON, HOPEFULLY TOMORROW.
SO I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER
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AND WE HAVE REQUESTED MOSQUITO SPRAYING.CURRENTLY ON WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
I HAVE REQUESTED EVERY OTHER DAY.
I'M SORRY, WEDNESDAYS AND SATURDAYS, SIR.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S AVAILABLE.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'LL DO ANY GOOD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SPRAY IN THE RAIN.
SO YOU HAVE TO, THERE'S A WINDOW OF TIME ON MOSQUITOES.
I'M NOT A PESTICIDE EXPERT, BUT I'M SURE IT WON'T WORK IF IT'S UH, IF IT'S RAINING.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL THAT, THAT IS.
ALL OF THAT ON THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[ GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. Citizens who have registered with the City Secretary prior to the meeting being called to order and desire to address the City Council with comments of a general nature, as it relates to the City of Rosenberg, will be heard at this time. Speakers may speak on up to three (3) specific agenda items, or a maximum of once during General Comments and up to two (2) additional specific agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three (3) minutes, except that a speaker who addresses the City Council through a translator is limited to six (6) minutes. Speakers are not allowed to distribute documentation while addressing City Council. Speakers making personal, impertinent, profane or slanderous remarks may be removed from the room and shall be barred from reentering the Chamber during the session of City Council. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the City Council is restricted from discussing or taking action on items not listed on the agenda. It is our policy to have all speakers identify themselves by providing their name and residential address when making comments.]
GOT COMMENTS.WE, WE KNOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
CORRECT? WHAT'S HER NAME? MS. MARK THERESA, MARCH.
ARE YOU RELATED TO MATTHEW MARCH? YES SIR.
'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN, Y'ALL WERE HERE.
DON'T PLAN COMING FOR YOU MY SPEECH.
WELL, HERE'S THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT.
IF WE GOTTA BE HERE, YOU KNOW, AND OTHERS, MAY AS WELL BE HERE.
YOU OR ANNEXED YEARS AGO BY THE CITY AGAINST YOUR WILL, WEREN'T YOU? YES SIR, I VOTED AGAINST THAT.
WE GOTTA, WE, WE GOTTA LAY DOWN SOME RULES.
UM, SHE'LL, SHE'LL TELL YOU, SPEAKERS MAY SPEAK ON UP TO THREE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS OR A MAXIMUM OF ONCE DURING GENERAL COMMENTS AND UP TO TWO ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, EXCEPT THAT A SPEAKER WHO ADDRESSES THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A TRANSLATOR IS LIMITED TO SIX MINUTES.
SPEAKERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISTRIBUTE DOCUMENTATION WHILE ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL SPEAKERS.
MAKING PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM AND SHALL BE BARRED FROM REENTERING THE CHAMBER DURING THE SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
IT IS OUR POLICY TO HAVE ALL SPEAKERS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY PROVIDING THEIR NAME AND RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS WHEN MAKING COMMENTS.
SO YOUR TIME WILL START WHEN I HIT THE, THE BUTTON LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.
WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS ITEM.
SO UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS, SO PLEASE DON'T BE OFFENDED.
SO IF YOU WANNA GO NOW, YOU'RE WELCOME.
AS IT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED, MY NAME IS THERESA MARCH AND I LEAVE AT LIVE AT 7 2 7 HARTRIDGE.
AND I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING IN AND IT WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT AND IT'S IMPACT ON RESIDENCE BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR US.
I APPRECIATE COUNCIL ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.
I REALIZE THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY ON RESIDENTIAL EXTERIOR LIGHTING, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A TIME TO ALSO VOICE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND SOME OF THEIR EXTERIOR LIGHTING IN THE AREA.
I'M ADDRESSING COUNSEL, SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT INSTALL LED FLOODLIGHTS WITH NO SHIELDING AND NOT ANGLED DOWNWARDS.
A NEIGHBORING BUSINESS INSTALLED APPROXIMATELY 35 TO 40 FLOODLIGHTS ON A THREE ACRE PROPERTY, WHICH ARE UNSHIELDED AND ANGLED NEARLY 90 DEGREES.
THERE WERE, THESE WERE NOT NEW LIGHTS.
THEY, THEY WERE NEW LIGHTS INSTALLED IN JANUARY, JANUARY.
THEY DID NOT REPLACE EXISTING LIGHTS.
IN MY OPINION, THE LIGHTS ARE NOT ONLY A NUISANCE, BUT PRESENT A SAFETY HAZARD FOR DRIVERS DUE TO GLARING BRIGHTNESS.
THE LIGHTS CAUSED VISIBLE REFLECTIONS ON METAL GATES AND HIGHWAY SIGNS OVER A QUARTER MILE AWAY AT MY RESIDENCE.
IT CAUSES A STRAIN ON YOUR EYES BECAUSE OF THE GLARE.
YOU JUST DON'T WANNA LOOK IN THAT DIRECTION.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES COMMERCIAL EXTERIOR LIGHTS TO BE ANGLED, NO MORE THAN 20 DEGREES AND FULLY SHIELDED.
I FEEL IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO ENFORCE THIS CODE AND OTHER OUTDOOR LIGHTING ORDINANCES TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT THE NUISANCE OF BLINDING LIGHTS DUE TO GLARE AND, AND, AND, AND TO REDUCE THE LIGHT POLLUTION.
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF APPROPRIATE LIGHTS WOULD BE THE LAMAR L-C-I-S-D-C-T-E, WHICH WAS JUST BUILT AND IT'S CLOSER TO MY RESIDENCE AND WE HAVE NO GLARE REFLECTION FROM THE LIGHTS FROM THAT PROPERTY.
PREVENTING LIGHT TRESPASS ACROSS PROPERTY LINES CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY REQUIRING FULLY SHIELDED FIXTURES AND BEING ANGLED APPROPRIATELY DOWNWARD.
ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE COUNSEL'S TIME TO THIS MATTER.
AND MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE MORE FOR, UM, GENERAL COMMENTS.
MS. JAAK, WHO IS IT? ALICE JO.
ALICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM? SHE SIGNED UP FOR BOTH.
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YOU ALL WERE HERE.I SAW ALL OF YOU ON APRIL 7TH.
EXCUSE ME MA'AM, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES.
27 0 8 MADISON AVENUE, CAMBRIDGE VILLAGE.
Y'ALL WERE ALL HERE EXCEPT AMANDA.
SO WHAT I WANNA START OFF WITH UNDER GENERAL IS YOU DON'T ADDRESS YOUR CITIZENS AS TERRORISTS AS CRAZY AS HARASSERS.
WITHOUT SPEAKING TO THEM FIRST, I WAS NEVER NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING COMING UP ON COUNCIL ABOUT LIGHTING.
AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU MA'AM.
AND A COMMERCIAL IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT I WANNA SPEAK TO Y'ALL TONIGHT BASICALLY ABOUT YOUR ETIQUETTE.
MAYOR, YOU TOOK OVER THE PALMERS TALKING LIKE YOU LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE EVERY DAY LIKE YOU ARE A PART OF THEIR FAMILY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON OR YOU DON'T.
THERE WAS A SUIT THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
THE JUDGE DID NOT FIND IN THE BOMBER'S BEHALF AND THEY DID NOT SUE ME.
I SUED THEM IN JP COURT FOR BASICALLY IT WAS A WASH.
I WAS GIVEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THEY WERE GIVEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THEN WE HAD ALL COURT COSTS PAID, WHICH THERE'S TOTAL OF $479 TO PAY ME.
IT JUST ANGERS ME THAT I SEE THE PALMER SITTING HERE TONIGHT.
SOMEBODY ON THIS COUNCIL LET THEM KNOW THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA.
'CAUSE THE PALMERS ARE BASICALLY NONPOLITICAL PEOPLE.
WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THOSE PEOPLE HAPPY.
WE HAVE PUT A FENCE UP IN OUR YARD, IN THE FRONT YARD TO SEPARATE US SO THAT WE DIDN'T DISTURB THEM.
THEY HAD THEIR PRIVACY, WE HAD OURS, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING IF WE'RE BREATHING, WE'RE IRRITATING THEM.
SO I WANNA START THIS OUT SO PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION WHEN YOU GET TO INJURED IN ITEM FIVE BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS WAS DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER WAS ALSO LIBEL AND SLANDER BECAUSE WHEN THEY SAID THEY LIVED AT 27 0 4 MADISON ON THE EAST SIDE WAS THEIR NEIGHBOR.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I WANT MY SAME TIME.
MAYOR, THEY HAD 25 MINUTES AT THIS PODIUM, SO I WANT MY TIME.
YOU, YOU WILL SPEAK TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL AGREES TO AND WHATEVER RULES THAT ARE APPLIED HERE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA COME IN HERE AND DEMAND A LENGTH OF TIME.
YEAH, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU WE'RE TALKING.
I DON'T WANNA HEAR YOU RICHARD OLSON EITHER.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS? SO WE'LL
[ CONSENT AGENDA ]
MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.AND THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO LET'S TAKE A MOMENT TO, TO GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BRING R DOWN.
I JUST, JUST WANNA SURE, CLARIFICATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER THING WE CAN DO FOR THE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF MS. SWICK AND MS. PALMER AND FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT SPOKE ON THIS ITEM.
IF Y'ALL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE ATTORNEY WILL ALLOW IT.
'CAUSE I SEE SUSAN NEWTON SIGNED UP, BUT I DON'T THINK SUSAN'S HERE.
ARE YOU WANTING TO MOVE THE ITEM UP? MAYOR, MOVE IT UP.
WE JUST NEED TO VOTE COUNCIL TO DO THAT.
WELL, WE GOT, WE GOT SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR CONSIDERATE.
YOU STILL CAN'T, I MEAN, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IT'S, IT'S ALLOWED.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE A JUDGMENT CALL.
WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT R AS HECTOR ASKED TO PULL DOWN AND IF THE OTHER SPEAKER GETS HERE, THEN WE CAN ASK AT THAT TIME IF WE WANNA DO THAT OR, OR I DON'T KNOW.
WE CAN MOVE AND IF THEY DO GET HERE, WE CAN ALWAYS PUSH IT UP.
IF WE'RE AT ITEM THREE, AT ITEM TWO,
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SAY WE'RE DISCUSSING ITEM TWO AND THEN THEY SHOW UP AND WE WANNA MOVE ITEM FIVE TO MAKE IT THREE, THEN I'M OKAY WITH THAT TOO.JUST WAIT AND SEE IF THEY SHOW UP.
BUT I WANT A CLARIFICATION ON, ON R IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WELL WHAT'S R ABOUT? IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT, CONSENT ITEMS? SURE.
WELL LET'S DO, LET'S DO R FIRST THOUGH.
WELL, WE NEED TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS FIRST.
OH, YOU WOULDN'T? LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEY WISH.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? WE COULD PULL IT DOWN AND VISIT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL I CONSENT ITEMS EXCEPT FOR OUR, I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES.
I DON'T THINK IT'S WOR, MINE'S NOT WORKING THERE.
YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY OR PUSH RED? NO, MINE'S FROZE.
FY BUT SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION, I THINK WE KNOW YOU'RE, YEAH, I, IT WON'T LET ME VOTE.
IF IF YOU COULD JUST VOICE YOUR VOTE.
I'LL, OH, IT SAYS NO, NO SAYS NO.
[R. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-24, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, amending the Code of Ordinances by deleting all of Section 28-30 entitled, "Signal Lights", of Division 1, Article II, of Chapter 28 thereof and substituting therefor a new Section 28-30; providing for an updated inventory of all traffic control devices; and, by deleting all of Section 28-41 entitled, "Stop Signs Designated", of Division 2, Article II, of Chapter 28 thereof and substituting therefor a new Section 28-41; providing for an updated inventory of all stop streets; providing a penalty in an amount of not less than $1.00 or more than $200.00 for violation of any provision hereof; repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances inconsistent or in conflict herewith; and providing for severability; and providing an effective date. (Doug Gorka, Director of Public Works)]
SO WE'LL GO TO UH, MAKE ITEM R, ITEM TWO B OR TWO? TWO A.ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEM.
WHOSE NAME IS UNDER IT? DOUG, HOW ARE YOU DOING DOUG? DOING OKAY MR. GORKA, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PATIENCE.
YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ABOUT DOUG
I HOPE YOU HANG AROUND HERE A LONG TIME, DOUG.
ALL THE CITY COUNCIL IS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 5 4 2 2 0 2 OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE TO REGULATE TRAFFIC BY THE PLACEMENT OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
SUCH DEVICES MUST BE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
T-M-U-T-C-D RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING A CURRENT INVENTORY OF THESE DEVICES FALLS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
STAFF HAS PRESENTED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 24, WHICH PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF ALL INTERSECTIONS CONTROLLED BY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AS WELL AS STOP SIGNS WITHIN THE CITY.
WHILE THIS SECTION HAS NOT BEEN UNDERTAKEN SINCE 2018, ROSENBERG HAS SEEN SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH AND EXPERIENCED CHANGES IN CERTAIN ROADWAY CONFIGURATIONS SINCE THAT TIME.
THIS UPDATE INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND STOP SIGNS IN NEWLY DEVELOPED AREAS AND SUBDIVISIONS.
AND RED LINE VERSION OF THESE CHANGES IS ATTACHED FOR REVIEW.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 26, 24 AS PRESENTED.
I'M SURE THERE'S A LEGAL REASON THAT, UH, 'CAUSE I, WHEN WE WENT OVER THE AGENDA.
SO WHEN WE APPROVE STOP SIGNS, IF THEY'RE NOT, UH, APPROVED THROUGH HERE OR PUT ON HERE, THEY'RE REALLY NOT ENFORCEABLE IF SOMEBODY GETS A TICKET FOR IT.
IS THAT THE REASON? THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S, IT IS GOTTA BE BY ORDINANCE.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S SO THAT, OKAY.
THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
AND THEN IT SAYS UPDATE INVENTORY.
SO I WAS WONDERING, ARE WE UPDATING EVERYTHING IN THE CITY? LIKE EVERY STOP SIGN? THAT'S RIGHT.
WHEN, WHEN A SINGLE STOP SIGN COMES TO Y'ALL FOR APPROVAL, WE DO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE ON THOSE ONES THAT COME TO Y'ALL LIKE THAT.
I, I BELIEVE, BUT THIS IS SUBDIVISIONS BIG AREAS WHERE LOTS OF STOP SIGNS WERE ADDED AND WE'RE JUST CATCHING UP.
OKAY, THAT, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT WE WEREN'T BUYING INVENTORY TO KEEP IN STOCK FOR STOP SIGNS, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING INVENTORY IS THE STOP SIGNS WERE ALREADY INSTALLED OUT IN THE FIELD.
I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO, A SECOND.
MOTION MADE BY HECTOR, SECONDED BY AMANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSH FOR SAY GREEN.
MAY THERE'S NOT, WE NEED TO DO A MANUAL VOTE ON THIS ONE.
IT WOULD NOT PULL IT FROM CONSENT ON MY SYSTEM, SO WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT.
CAN WE VOTE TO REMOVE THIS SYSTEM TONIGHT? NO, I'M NOT
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL DO A, UH, HOW ABOUT A VOICE VOTE AND IF IT'S CLOSED, WE'LL DO A HAND VOTE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, HECTOR MADE THE MOTION SECONDED BY AMANDA.
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ALRIGHT.[2. Consideration of and action on a variance request by Courtney Chaney, Owens Management Systems, to allow a two-lot residential subdivision with a shared access/driveway to a major thoroughfare (Koeblen Road) with minimum lot frontage of 149 feet in lieu of the required 175 feet and minimum lot area of 1.12 acres in lieu of the required three (3) acres at 6303 Koeblen Road (Chapter 4, Division 2, Sec. 4-67 (A)). (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)]
VARIANCE REQUEST.CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON VARIOUS REQUESTS BY COURTNEY CHENEY OWENS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS TO ALLOW A TWO LOT RESIDENTIAL SUB SUBDIVISION WITH A SHARED ACCESS DRIVEWAY TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE COPELAND ROAD WITH A MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE OF 149 FEET IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED 175 FEET AND MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 1.2 ACRES IN LIEU OF REQUIRED THREE ACRES AT 63 0 3 COLAN ROAD, CHAPTER FOUR, DIVISION TWO, SECTION FOUR DASH 67 A MOHAMMAD.
UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
A VARIANCE REQUEST HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT COURTNEY OWENS OF OWENS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SANDRA MAY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE IS SECTION FOUR DASH 67 A OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 63 0 3 COLAN ROAD.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF COLAN ROAD AND NORTHWEST OF MENNONITE ROAD WITHIN THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
SECTION FOUR DASH 67 OF THE CODE STATES THAT NO RESIDENTIAL LOT SHALL HAVE ACCESS TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OR COLLECTOR STREET EXCEPT THE LOT SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM FRONTAGE OF 175 FEET, CONTAIN A MINIMUM AREA OF THREE ACRES.
AND THE LOT IS PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE THOROUGHFARE OR COLLECTOR STREET VIA ONE DRIVEWAY ONLY.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO SUBDIVIDE AN EXISTING 2.56 ACRE LOT LOCATED WITHIN THE MEADOWS ON COGHLAN SUBDIVISION TO CREATE TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH A SHARED ACCESS TO COBBLER ROAD, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, UH, WITH A MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE OF 1 49 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 175 FEET AND MINIMUM LOT AREA OF 1.21, UH, 1.12 ACRES IU OF THE REQUIRED THREE ACRES VARIANCE REQUEST MUST BE EVALUATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BASED ON FOUR CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE UDC ON MAY 20TH, 2026.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A REGULAR MEETING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A VOTE FOR THIS VARIANCE MAY BE, UH, MAY AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL BE ISSUED FOR INDEFINITE DURATION OR FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY.
WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ON, ON IT? IT IS IN THE ETJ.
AND SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE GONNA USE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BUT THEY WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER LOT OUT OF THIS YELLOW AREA.
SO IT'LL BE TWO LOTS IN STATE OF ONE AND, BUT THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE IN THE ETJ.
SO HOW IS IT OUR BUSINESS? WELL IT IS, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENT IN THE SUBDIVISION AND WE DO ENFORCE THESE RULES BECAUSE THE ROAD IS IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO THE, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE ETJ BUT THEY'RE COMING OUT ONTO A CITY ROAD.
IS THE, WOULD THIS POSE ANY DANGER TO THE CITY ROAD? WOULD THIS BEING JUST AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT'S BEING USED BY THE EXISTING HOME? I DON'T SEE ANY.
AND, AND I'LL THINK IF I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, RICHARD, YOU PROBABLY KNOW MORE THAN I 'CAUSE YOU DRIVE BY THERE.
BUT I THINK IT'S IN THAT OTHER, THAT THAT ROAD WE BLOCKED OFF.
ISN'T THAT CORRECT? UH, I THINK SO.
ULTIMATELY IT MAY CHANGE BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS GONNA RECONSTRUCT ANOTHER, UH, TWO LANES THERE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY TWO LANE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BUILD OTHER, OH, ANOTHER TWO MORE, TWO MORE ROAD THAT MAY CHANGE IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE OIL ROAD.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM EITHER.
SOMEBODY MAKE THE MOTION THEN SO WE CAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE.
LEMME, I'LL SECOND A VARIANCE.
HUH? IT'S A, A VARIANCE, NOT THE, OKAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY PUSHING? NO.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL DO ANOTHER VOTE.
IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR, PUSH GREEN.
YOU'RE OPPOSED SAY NO OR PUSH.
UH, MAYOR, I GOT A TEXT FROM SUSAN THAT SHE WILL NOT MAKE THE MEETING.
SO IF WE WANNA MOVE THAT ITEM.
Y'ALL WANNA MOVE IT RIGHT NOW? UH, I'M, LET'S DO IT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S WHY I INTERFERING RIGHT NOW.
SO I DON'T WANNA, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
WE NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEM UP.
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WE NEED A MOTION TO TAKE THE ITEM OUTTA ORDER.SHE WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER SIGNED UP.
THE OTHER, UH, NO ONE ELSE WAS SIGNED UP.
WELL, MS. JAWS, ALICE IS SIGNED UP AND EVERYBODY'S HERE TO DO.
IS THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE ITEM UP RIGHT NOW.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING GREEN.
SO ALICE, YOU WISH TO SPEAK AGAIN? YES.
AND THEN WE WILL DO THE PALMERS.
MAYOR AND MAYOR, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEM SUMMARY BEFORE WE HAVE READ THE ITEM.
AND MAYOR, WHEN YOU READ THAT ITEM, I WANNA, I WANNA HAVE A, SOMETHING TO SAY TOO SURE.
WE'LL, WE'LL JUST NEED TO LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK FIRST AND THEN YOU OKAY.
[5. Review and discuss the residential lighting ordinance regulations, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Brian Swint, Building Official)]
REVIEW AND DISCUSS RESIDENTIAL LIGHT ORDINANCE REGULATIONS AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.OR JUST THE, YEAH, OR YOU CAN HAVE BRIAN READ THE SUMMARY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILOR TREVINO TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 13 AT THE APRIL 7TH, 2026.
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 13 WAS APPROVED REGARDING RESIDENTIAL OUTDOOR LIGHTING REGULATIONS TO ADDRESS NUISANCE LIGHTING CONDITIONS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THE ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO REDUCE LIGHT, TRESPASS GLARE AND EXCESSIVELY BRIGHT LIGHTING THAT MAY INTERFERE WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WHILE STILL ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE LIGHTING SAFETY AND SECURITY.
KEY PROVISIONS INCLUDE REQUIREMENTS FOR SHIELDING AND DIRECTING LIGHT AWAY FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES, LIMITING NUISANCE GLARE AND ENCOURAGING THE USE OF WARMER LIGHTING.
ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS A COMPLAINT BASED AND IS CONDUCTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OR CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.
CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO DISCUSS THE ORDINANCE.
UM, MS. SWICK, UM, I'M GONNA BE TAKING OVER THE MEETING.
ALICE SWICK 27 0 8 MADISON AVENUE ROSENBERG.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO MY COUNSELOR, WHO IS MR. TINO AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
ROBERT PALMER TOLD A LOT OF THINGS TO Y'ALL.
I WASN'T HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
I WASN'T GIVEN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW IT WAS EVEN GONNA BE DISCUSSED.
THIS WAS ALL DONE BEHIND MY BACK.
WE DO HAVE A VERY CONTENTIOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
THEY'VE LIVED THERE 39 YEARS, NEVER HAD A PROBLEM, NEVER A PROBLEM TILL 2022.
AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HER PROBLEM IS.
HE COULDN'T EVEN CORRECTLY IDENTIFY TO Y'ALL THE LIGHTING THAT WAS ENCROACHING ON HIS PROPERTY.
ALL MY FIXTURES HAVE BULBS IN 'EM.
NONE OF 'EM ARE DOUBLE FIXTURES WITHOUT BULBS.
THEY COME ON AT ABOUT 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
THEY GO OFF AT 1104 IN THE EVENING.
THEY DO NOT COME ON IN THE MORNING.
I TURN THEM ON WHEN I LET MY ANIMALS OUT AND THAT IS USUALLY FIVE 30.
UM, MAYOR BENTON USED THE WORDS AND I QUOTE THAT PAUL AND I HAVE TERRORIZED THE PALMERS.
AND I DO INTEND TO SEEK LEGAL COUNSEL.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, ON WHAT WAS SAID HERE IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS ABOUT A CITIZEN, A TAXPAYER, A RESIDENT, A NEIGHBOR.
IT WAS, I HAD PEOPLE TEXTING ME SAYING, I THINK YOU NEED TO TURN ON COUNCIL MEETING.
SO DON'T THINK PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
THEY KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN ROSENBERG.
UH, AS FAR AS THE, HER COMPLAINTS IN HER COUNTERSUIT, THEIR COUNTERSUIT WERE RIDICULOUS.
THINGS LIKE THE SQUIRREL FEEDERS WERE MAKING A MESS.
WATER WAS DRAINING FROM MY YARD INTO HERS WHEN WE WATERED THE GRASS AND I WAS BLOWING LEAVES INTO HER YARD.
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WAS THE WORD TERRORIZING, HARASSMENT, BULLYING OR CRAZY USED IN THE COUNTERSUIT.THEY WERE NOT AWARDED ANYTHING IN THE COUNTERSUIT.
SO NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WRIT OF EXECUTION TO COLLECT THE MONEY.
I'M GONNA START WITH COUNCILLOR VARGAS.
YOU STATED IN THE OPEN MEETING THAT YOU WISH YOU KNEW WHO THIS PERSON WAS, SO YOU COULD HAVE TALKED TO HIM.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW IT WAS ME THAT WAS GONNA BE DISCUSSED? NO MA'AM.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS THE COUNCIL.
YOU'RE COME, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU COULD COME HERE AND YOU CAN COMMENT.
I CAN HAVE DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNSELORS.
'CAUSE I HEARD THE BEEPER GO OFF.
UM, OKAY, HANG ON JUST SECOND.
MS. JOSS, I WANNA HEAR WHAT MY COUNSELOR HAS TO SAY.
ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA THROW ME OUT BILLY? THE ATTORNEY SAID HE CAN SPEAK AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE SPOKEN.
YOU, YOU'LL HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY WHEN WE'RE DONE.
ROBERT, YOU WANNA GO FIRST OR MRS. PAUL ROBERT PALMER.
SO I AM ASKING MYSELF, WHY AM I BACK HERE AGAIN? UH, IT'S BECAUSE NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE, WE'VE HAD TO PUT UP THIS, UM, SOLAR SCREEN BASICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SPOTLIGHTS SHINING INTO OUR LIVING ROOM AND THE SECONDARY ONE CATCHES OUR BEDROOM.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING YOU ALL MADE UP.
AS I REMEMBER YOU QUOTED SOME OTHER CITIES THAT USED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
SO I AM BACK BECAUSE THIS HAS NOT BEEN RECTIFIED.
YOU SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE? YES SIR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 2 7 0 4 MADISON AVENUE, ROSENBERG, TEXAS.
UM, LIKE MY HUSBAND, WE'RE BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEEN RECTIFIED.
IN THE BACKYARD WE HAVE OUR SOLAR SCREEN THAT WAS UP AND BEFORE THE SOLAR SCREEN WAS UP.
THE LIGHT, THE ANGLE OF THE LIGHT SHINED THROUGH OUR HOME INTO OUR BREAKFAST ROOM.
UM, IT ALSO SHINES STILL TO THIS DAY DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF OUR HOUSE.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN OUR KITCHEN WINDOW, THE LIGHTING.
SO THE ANGLE HAS NOT BEEN MOVED DOWN.
IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, UP ON EITHER SIDE.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT THE SOLAR SCREEN WOULD HELP TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY DUE TO CAMERAS THAT WERE ALSO FOCUSED IN OUR BACKYARD.
BUT ONE OF THE CAMERAS HAS BEEN MOVED TO A SHED THAT NOW FACES IN OUR BACKYARD.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE LIGHTING, WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER, UH, INTRUSION IN OUR BACKYARD.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE LIGHTING, YOU'RE CONSTANTLY SURVEYED.
MAYOR, WE WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK FIRST.
AND THEN SO, BUT AGAIN, LIKE BOB SAID, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE, THE PASSING OF THE ORDINANCE.
IT GAVE US A SENSE OF PEACE THAT LET OUR VOICE BE HEARD.
WE ARE NOT SEVERELY ACTIVE POLITICALLY, BUT WE ARE VERY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT GOES ON IN OUR COMMUNITY POLITICALLY.
WE VOTE, WE ARE ACTIVE CITIZENS.
WE ENCOURAGE OUR CHILDREN TO VOTE.
AND SO I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU.
WE MAY ASK SOME QUESTIONS OF YOU.
UM, SO LIKE THE, THE SUMMARY SAYS, I, I BROUGHT THIS BACK UP TO THE BACK ON THE AGENDA.
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SAID, WHY IS HE BACK OVER HERE? WELL, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF DISTRICT THREE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.I KNOW MS. SWICK DIDN'T VOTE FOR ME THESE TWO TERMS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.
BUT AS A REPRESENTATIVE AS DISTRICT THREE, TO ME, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I THINK EVERY CITIZEN HAS THEIR, UH, FAIRNESS TO COME AND SPEAK.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
'CAUSE I THINK I NEED TO BE FAIR.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS ITEM'S BACK ON THE AGENDA.
I JUST WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW 'CAUSE Y'ALL MADE A COMMENT THAT WHY Y'ALL BACK OVER HERE.
BUT THIS IS WHY YOU'RE BACK OVER HERE.
'CAUSE I FEEL, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW MS. SWICK DIDN'T VOTE FOR ME, BUT I AM A FAIR REPRESENTATIVE OF EVERY CITIZEN HERE IN ROSENBERG.
SO THIS IS WHY THIS ITEM'S BACK IN THE AGENDA AND I'M GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE OTHER RESIDENT TO SPEAK.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT ALSO.
UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM MS. SWICK.
IF, UH, IF I CAN ASK, DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES MS. JOSS, BY ANY CH YES, I DO.
DO YOU MIND SHARING THOSE WITH THE COUNSEL? YES.
I HAVE PICTURES OF MS. PALMER TAKING PICTURES OF ME OVER HER FENCE.
I THINK THAT ALSO, MR. SW, CAN CAN YOU GO TO THE PODIUM FOR EXTENSION MIC? CAN YOU GO TO THE MIC, MS. WICK? I'M SORRY.
MR. ENT, DIDN'T I ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND RECEIVE THAT FROM YOU, SIR? YES, YOU ASKED, UH, FOR AN EXTENSION UNTIL YOU COULD COME ADDRESS COUNSEL AND I WOULD GRANT THE SAME TO ANY CITIZEN.
SO WHEN THEY SAY NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
MR. SWIN AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER, UH, TRYING TO RECTIFY THIS.
UM, HE'S, HE'S A GOOD CODE ENFORCEMENT DIRECTOR AND HE WANTS TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRIED TO DO WITH US.
BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS AS SIMPLE AS JUST GIVING IN AS A CITIZEN AND LETTING OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
BECAUSE ROSENBERG COULD SOON BE A ROSENBERG HOA IF WE'RE NOT VERY, VERY CAREFUL.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? WHAT, WHAT'S THIS? OH, I JUST WANNA SEE IF SHE HAD ANY PICTURES TOO.
PICTURES JUST TO SEE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO THE STORIES, MAYOR.
WELL WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR VIEW? DID YOU SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE AS WE, YOU, WERE YOU HERE WHEN WE VOTED ON IT? YES, I WAS HERE.
ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST A ORDINANCE? I WANTED TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AGAIN AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT, HERE'S A, SOMETHING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT IS, WELL WE NEED TO READ ALICE.
WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS? BEFORE WE PUT OUR LIGHTS UP, I WAS ABOUT WATERING BEFORE WE EVEN PUT OUR FENCE UP.
I WAS OUT WATERING MY PLANTS ONE NIGHT AND A BRIGHT LIGHT CAME ON BEHIND ME.
IT WAS RIGHT BY THE BOMBER'S HOUSE RIGHT AT THE CORNER IN MY EYES.
AND THE PERSON SAID, AND I'M SORRY, I'LL QUOTE THEM DIRECTLY.
WHY THE F**K DON'T YOU LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE? AND I JUST TURNED AROUND.
I SAID, WHAT, WHO ARE YOU? AND THEY SAID IT AGAIN.
SO IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH AT FIRST I THOUGHT SO, WELL, WHAT THE HECK, YOU KNOW, WENT ABOUT MY WATERING.
THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY CAME AROUND THE CORNER, THEY DID IT AGAIN.
ASKED ME IN THE SAME VULGAR LANGUAGE, THE SAME QUESTION.
AND I ASKED THEM, WHO ARE YOU AFTER THAT, WE BEGAN TO BE AFRAID.
I'VE NEVER BEEN AFRAID IN MY YARD, EVER IN CAMBRIDGE VILLAGE.
I'VE ALWAYS FELT VERY, VERY SAFE AFTER THAT.
WE DO HAVE A CAMERA, HOWEVER, THEY ALSO HAVE A CAMERA THAT POINTS TO TOWARD OUR YARD.
SO WE'RE THEY'RE NOT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A CAMERA SHINING INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD? WELL, IF THE NEIGHBORS WOULD PUT THEIR FENCE UP AFTER THE STORM WE HAD, IT WOULD NOT GO INTO THEIR YARD.
IS THE FENCE LAYING DOWN TODAY? YES.
IS THE CAMERA UP TODAY? YES IT IS.
AND WHY ARE YOU SURVEILLING YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORS? WHY ARE THEY SURVEILLING ME? WELL, IT'S NOT SURVEILLING.
THE IDEA WAS I SHOWED YOU THE PICTURES.
MAY I SUGGEST MS. PALMER TOOK, SUGGEST YOU TRY TO GET ALONG WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
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WE, WE HAVE GOTTEN ALONG FOR 36 YEARS.ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, ALL OF THEM CALL THE CITY.
WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER DID THEY CALL? I WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU ANYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO YELL ME, MR. BENTON.
I'M, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ACCUSE ME YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU HAVE TO TELL ME.
I'M TELLING YOU YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE UPSET, UPSET WITH YOU.
MAY, MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU TRY TO GET ALONG BETTER WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
THIS CAME UP AND ACTUALLY I GOT AN EMAIL FROM ANOTHER CITIZEN NOT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OKAY.
SO I HAVE VISITED WITH MR. WINSLOW 'CAUSE I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THIS WAS PUT IN.
UM, HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD SHINE YOUR LIGHTS IN SOMEONE ELSE'S YARD.
I MEAN, THEY NEED TO BE ANGLED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS OUTTA COMPLIANCE AT THE MOMENT.
THE OTHER PLACE IS, UH, FROM HARTLAND ROAD, WHICH THE MARCHES, UH, SPOKE ABOUT.
AND I HAD ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOES NEED A LITTLE TWEAKING ON SOME OF THE ISSUES.
MR. SWT, CAN WE DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, MA'AM.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN FOR COMMERCIAL.
I THINK WE MIGHT THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE AS LONG AS IT PERTAINS TO LIGHTING, WE CAN, WE CAN STICK TO THAT.
IT IT PERTAINS TO THE LIGHTING.
IT, MY QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED ANSWERED.
AND, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL'S.
NO, AND I ONLY BROUGHT IT UP 'CAUSE THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I ALSO FOR CITIZENS.
BUT IT'S THE ANGLE OF CA OF LIGHTS GOING INTO NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS INTO ANY CITIZEN'S YARD INTO THEIR HOME.
THERE WAS, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ANGLE OF THE LIGHTINGS ON HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ANGLED AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE OR WHAT MIGHT NEED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT? YES, MA'AM.
UH, SO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER ARTICLE 25, UH, FOR OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL LIGHTING REGULATIONS, IT DOES STATE IN NUMBER THREE THAT ANY EXTERIOR LIGHT SHALL BE SHIELDED SHALL BE ALSO THAT IT SHALL BE, I'M GONNA READ IT VERBATIM.
UM, THE AXIS OF ILLUMINATION IS AT AN ANGLE NOT GREATER THAN 20 DEGREES MEASURED FROM THE VERTICAL LINE BETWEEN THE FIXTURE AND THE GROUND.
UNDER NO, NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD A SPOTLIGHT OR FLOODLIGHT BE DIRECTED TOWARDS PROPERTY LINES.
THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
SO FOR THE CASE, UH, WE WERE DISCUSSING MM-HMM
UH, ON HARTRIDGE, THE, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY READS IT SAYS FROM VERTICAL, WHICH WOULD BE STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN.
AND IS THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL OR JUST COMMERCIAL? NO.
SO THAT MIGHT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS UNDER SOMETHING ELSE.
SO ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I WANNA BRING UP LATER THEN IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT FOR THE RE RESIDENTIAL, ARE THERE ANGLES THAT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE, AND DOES THIS MS. WICK'S PROPERTY MEET THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA ASK TOO.
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT DID NOT STATE AN ANGLE.
IT JUST SAID SHALL NOT, UM, IT DOESN'T GIVE AN ANGLE JUST BUT DOES, SO SO THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT WAS PASSED IN APRIL ADDRESSES, UH, LIGHT TRESPASSING ONTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING IN THERE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANGLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST IF YOUR LIGHT IS GOING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UM, I THINK WE USED CANDLE FOOT CANDLES.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, STANDARD LIGHT MEASUREMENT.
SO I, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT ANGLES.
IT'S MORE ABOUT IS IT GOING ONTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT AND SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, I HAVE A LIGHT, A FLOOD LIGHT THAT'S 90 DEGREES AND I KNOW IT GOES INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S CHARGE.
IS IT A MOTION LIGHT? NO, IT STAYS ON ALL IT STAYS ON.
BUT I KEEP IT OFF MOST OF THE TIME.
BUT SOMETIMES I DO TURN, THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M ASKING TOO.
'CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS SAME, WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING TO BE A GOOD, YOU KNOW, TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO REPAIR OUR FENCES.
WE ALL NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR FLOOD LIGHTS ARE NOT SHINING INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOME.
AND IF THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE STATES, THEN THEY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
UH, WELL, WE ALL KNOW LIGHTS DON'T GO AROUND CORNERS.
AND MY LIGHT IS NOT EVEN WITH THE PALMER'S HOUSE.
IT IS BEHIND THE PALMER'S HOUSE.
HAS ANYBODY AND, AND ALSO AMANDA, IF I MIGHT SAY THIS, UM, THERE IS A MEANS BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THAT COUNCIL MEETING, THERE IS A MEANS TO COMPLAIN TO THE CITY ABOUT PROBLEMS THEY'RE HAVING OTHER THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER THAN CREATING AN ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S CALLED THE, THE, UH, A CITIZENS COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU DON'T ALWAYS NEED TO CREATE A NEW ORDINANCE FOR EVERYTHING.
SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE BY
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USING A SIMPLE CALL.AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE LIVED WITH A NEIGHBOR THAT DOESN'T WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND SOMETIMES THAT DOESN'T WORK.
BUT I ALSO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTS ARE HIGHER THAN THE FENCES, WHICH IS NORMAL BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS HIGHER THAN THE FENCE.
SO HAS ANYONE FROM THE CITY, YOUR DEPARTMENT, HAD THEY BEEN OUT THERE AT NIGHT TO SEE HOW THEY GLARE FOR YOURSELF? THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS, WE CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SENDS AND THE POLICE DO THAT.
THEY HAVE A LIGHT METER AND THEY, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
CAN Y'ALL NOT DO IT FOR YOUR, AND SEE FOR YOURSELF IF THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING? OR IS THE POLICE HAVE REPORTED THAT IT'S THE, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IS THE POLICE CHECK THE LIGHT READINGS.
AND THEY'VE REPORTED THAT THEY'VE SEEN IT THAT WAY.
SO WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO DO HERE? IF, IF THE RESIDENTIAL PARTY, AMANDA, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A STANDING ORDINANCE.
IF IT'S, WE HAVE A STANDING ORDINANCE AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS NOT BEEN ENFORCED, NOW WE CAN EITHER ENFORCE IT, WE CAN CHANGE IT, WE CAN REPEAT, WE CAN REPEAL IT, WE CAN DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO AT THIS POINT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY CARE
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE AN ISSUE.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF, I GUESS THE SIDE OF THE PALMER'S HOUSE COMING FROM YOUR HOUSE WHERE IT'S THE, THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE IS ILLUMINATED.
HOW CAN THAT BE? HOW CAN THAT BE EXCUSABLE COMING FROM MY HOUSE? WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? THEY ALSO HAVE, THEY ALSO HAVE MOTIONS IN THEIR LICENSE.
ALRIGHT, WHY DON'T WE, UH, AND THEY HAVE LIGHTS BEHIND THEM.
WHY DON'T WE LET THE CITY, THE CITY STAFF OR INSPECTOR OR THE POLICE THE CODE GO AND LOOK AND, AND SEE IF IT, IF IT MEETS THE CODE.
IF IT DOESN'T, YOU'LL HAVE TO COMPLY.
IF YOU DON'T COMPLY, THEN YOU'D BE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE.
I MEAN, I DON'T, THERE HAS BEEN SOMEONE COME OUT AGAIN AT MY REQUEST.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME OUT AGAIN.
BECAUSE THE VIOLATION I RECEIVED JUST CALLED IT A MIDDLE WHITE.
IT WAS NOT DESIGNATED RIGHT SIDE, LEFT SIDE, EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH.
IT WAS JUST CALLED A MIDDLE LIGHT.
ALL THESE ORDINANCES ARE PASSED TO BE FAIRLY APPLIED TO EVERYBODY, NOT JUST YOU.
SO WE DIDN'T MAKE AN ORDINANCE JUST BECAUSE OF ALICE.
IF ANYBODY HAS A PROBLEM, WE GO BACK TO THE ORDINANCE AND SEE IF IT COMPLIES.
JOYCE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEND CODE INSTEAD OF THE POLICE JUST ONE NIGHT? I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE OVERTIME, BUT JUST TO HASH THIS OUT, I THINK THE, THE POLICE HAVE THE ONE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY ORDERED THE EQUIPMENT.
HAVE THEY BEEN TRAINED IN, IN THAT EQUIPMENT? THE CANDLES? HAVE THEY BEEN TRAINED ON THAT EQUIPMENT? YES.
I'M JUST ASKING JUST TO MAKE SURE.
AND THEY, THEY WENT OUT AND SAID IT WAS IN VIOLATION AND THEN THEY WENT OUT A SECOND TIME TO MEET WITH MS. JAAK AND EXPLAINED TO HER, UM, WHAT WAS IT OUT OF VIOLATION.
IF I MIGHT JOYCE SAY ONE THING.
UM, THE VIOLATION, UM, SHE MAKES, SHE, SHE WAS A VERY GOOD OFFICER.
FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT SHE WAS A VERY GOOD OFFICER.
THAT'S NOTHING, NOTHING ON HER.
UH, SHE SAID IT WAS A VERY HECTIC NIGHT THAT THEY'D HAD A STABBING.
AND I DON'T THINK SHE WAS SURE AT THAT POINT WHAT LIGHT SHE WAS REALLY LOOKING AT.
UH, SHE CAME BACK AND SHE BROUGHT ANOTHER DETECTIVE WITH HER AGAIN IN THE DAYTIME.
AND I REQUESTED, AND JONATHAN WHITE ACCOMMODATED ME ON THAT ONE.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN SHE GOT THERE, SHE WAS STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHAT LIGHT.
SHE WAS UNSURE AS TO WHAT LIGHT SHE REALLY WAS IDENTIFYING.
AND SHE WAS POINTING OUT LIGHTS.
AND I SAID, NO, THOSE LIGHTS ARE, THEY'RE NOT ON AT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A WORKING LIGHT.
SHE WAS POINTING AT OUR DECORATIVE LIGHTS ALONG THE, THE PATIO AREA AND WELL, MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN VISIT WITH THE POLICE AND, AND HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GO WITH THE POLICE AND EXACTLY.
AND LOOK, AND THEN THEY CAN GET A FULL REPORT ON BOTH SIDES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A SHAME THAT WE HAVE TO WASTE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TIME ON ANY OF THIS.
IT, IT IS, AMANDA, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE, ALICE.
WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME NOW DISCUSSING THIS.
IT'S A WASTE THAT Y'ALL EVEN MADE AN ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL GOT ALONG A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, ORDINANCES HAVE TO BE, BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF ORDINANCES THOUGH THAT ARE NOT ENFORCED, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY ORDINANCES.
IF WE MAKE AN ORDINANCE BASED ON A SQUABBLE BETWEEN TWO NEIGHBORS, THAT'S NOT BENEFITING THE WHOLE CITY.
OKAY, WELL, IT'S GOOD FOR FUTURE.
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I THINK FOR NOW, BILLY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.WE JUST NEED TO LET CODE GET WITH OFFICERS, HAVE THEM CHECK IT AGAIN AT NIGHT.
AT NIGHT AND THEN WE'LL JUST GO FROM THERE.
LET, AND, AND AMANDA, MAY I SAY TO, UH, COULD THIS BE DONE IN OUR PRESENCE? BECAUSE WE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT NIGHT THEY WERE OUT THERE.
THE CITIZENS NEED TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, WE SHOULD ANGLE THE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN,
IF, IF YOU TELL EVERYBODY WHEN IT, A LOT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE STAFF LOOKS AT AND THEY MADE IT MAKE A DETERMINATION.
IF YOU TELL, IF YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY WHEN TO TURN THE LIGHTS OUT, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A CLEAR READING OR YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A GENUINE READING.
WELL, SO THEY CAN GO OUT THERE, OBSERVE, AND THEN YOU CAN NOTIFY THEM THAT NIGHT THAT YOU, YOU, YOU'RE OUT THERE, YOU'VE OBSERVED THIS AND THIS IS THE ISSUE OR NON-ISSUE.
BRANDON, CAN WE DISCUSS BUT ALSO APPLYING THIS, THE COMMERCIAL ANGLES TO RESIDENTIAL ALSO TONIGHT? WELL, IT SAYS WE COULDN'T CO DO COMMERCIAL, SO IT'S, WELL, SO IT'S, IT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES.
IT'S THE TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMERCIAL REGULATIONS FOR THE ANGLING OF THE LIGHTING THAT'S IN THE UDC.
IT'S SEPARATE FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE THAT ON A FEATURE.
CAN WE APPLY THOSE ANGLES TO, TO CAN YOU APPLY THE ANGLES TO RESIDENTIAL? YEAH, POTENTIALLY WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD POINT OUT THAT IT WAS OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT DREW UP THIS ORDINANCE.
AND NOT THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR.
AND, UH, WE DID BASE IT ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WELL, SUGAR LAND DOES NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF LIGHTING ORDINANCE.
THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT DON'T.
I THINK MR. PALMER WANT, WANTED TO MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT, MR. PALMER.
ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU COME, ALICE, WOULD YOU MIND COUNCILOR OLSON TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
UM, YES, BUT AS FAR AS FOR TONIGHT, THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ONLY FOR STAFF DIRECTION.
SO, UM, WE COULD LOOK AT IT AND BRING SOMETHING ELSE BACK.
PEOPLE, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THEN I'M, I'M THROUGH WITH THIS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A SCREWDRIVER, STICKING IT IN THE SIDE OF A LIGHT BULB.
CAN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER? CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING A SCREWDRIVER, STICKING IN THE SIDE OF A LIGHT FIXTURE, LOOSENING IT UP AND TURNING A LIGHT DOWN.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SHE'S OVER THERE TRYING TO BUFFALO Y'ALL.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME, KNOCKED ON MY DOOR.
I LET THEM IN THROUGH MY HOUSE WITH THEIR LIGHT METER.
I STOOD THERE WITH THEM AND I POINTED TO THE TWO LIGHTS.
THE LADY TOOK A READING, SHE GOT A CALL ABOUT A STABBING, WHICH WAS TRUE.
I SAID, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK.
SHE SAID, I'VE GOT ALL I NEED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TURNING SOME LIGHTS TOWARDS THE GROUND.
WE'RE NOT DIGGING UP UTILITY POLES, WE'RE NOT MOVING UNDERGROUND ROMEX, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THESE ARE MOUNTED ON BUILDINGS.
AND SHE'S OVER HERE BARKING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S BEING MEAN TO HER.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PALMER? I HAVE QUESTION.
WE, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN CHECKED BY AN OFFICER.
AND SHE'S GIVEN HER OP AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT.
THEN SHE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION.
SHE WAS GIVEN THAT, WHY AREN'T WE ENFORCING ANYTHING? I GAVE HER THE EXTENSION SO THAT SHE WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNSEL.
I WOULD TREAT HER NO DIFFERENT THAN I WOULD ANYBODY ELSE.
AND THEN NOW THAT SHE'S HAD THAT SAY, AND, AND AFTER THIS MEETING, IT'S, IT'S DONE.
I MEAN, SHE'S, SHE NEEDS TO STOP IT.
SHE CAN TURN IT OFF OR TURN IT DOWN, WHATEVER.
THE NEXT, THE NEXT STEP, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE IS, WOULD BE FOR PD TO ISSUE A MUNICIPAL CITATION.
UH, UNLESS YOU DIRECT ME TO GRANT ANOTHER EXTENSION WHILE I GO OUT WITH PD AT NIGHT, IT'S COUNSEL'S DECISION.
I I DON'T WANT ANY MORE EXTENSIONS.
YOU GONE, I THINK LET BRIAN GO AND LET, LET HIM HIMSELF LOOK AT IT AT NIGHT.
GRANT HIM THE PD AND GO FROM THERE.
I WELL, COME ON EVERY, JUST THAT WAY WE CAN KILL THIS AGENDA.
NOW LET, I THINK IF BRIAN GOES OUT THERE AND HE SAYS, HEY, SHE'S OUTTA ORDINANCE, AND
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I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS RYAN GONNA SEE THAT TWO, TWO OFFICERS DIDN'T SEE.I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE NO PICTURES IN THAT REPORT SHOWING THOSE LIGHTS THE WAY YOU'RE PICTURING.
SO ON THE POLICE REPORT, IF THEY WERE TO TAKEN A PICTURE, WELL, I MEAN, WE DON'T SEE EVERY SPEEDING VIOLATION.
WE JUST TAKE THE WORDS OF THE OFFICERS.
BUT ON THIS ISSUE, I THINK WE, WE NEED, I, THAT'S MY OPINION.
I THINK THAT'S BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER WHO, WHO WORKS, WHO, UH, BRIAN WORKS FOR, AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE HECTOR, LIKE ALL OUR, OR LIKE ALL THE ORDINANCES.
AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE 'EM.
YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO THEM.
OR, OR WHY ARE YOU GONNA HAVE 'EM? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, EXTEND THE EXTENSION FOR BRIAN TO GO OUT THERE.
AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T NEED ANY FORMAL ACTION.
MS. JOHN, WE, WE STAFF DIRECTION.
LET LEMME SEE WHAT I WOULD LIKE A PERSONAL APOLOGY FROM EVERY COUNSELOR.
MA'AM, YOU ARE NOT GONNA GET AN APOLOGY HERE.
YOU DO NOT TALK THAT WAY, BILLY.
YOU DO NOT CALL ME A TERRORIST.
PLEASE SIT DOWN OR YOU WILL HAVE TO BE, I KNOW.
HAVE TO, YOU HAD MY HUSBAND REMOVED BEFORE.
YOU'LL HAVE TO BE REMOVED IF YOU DON'T SIT DOWN.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, Y'ALL OWE ME AN APOLOGY.
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ME.
BUT I THINK FELIX, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD CURVE YOUR LIGHTING DOWN.
YOU COULD DO THAT VERY EASILY.
DO THE CITIZENS ALSO KNOW THIS WAS THREE WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION, SO IT WAS POLITICAL HARASSMENT.
JARED, WOULD YOU MIND ASKING MS. GILWORTH TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT ON SUBJECT.
ANYBODY ELSE? SO NO ACTION AFTER ALL THAT DISCUSSION.
THIS ITEM WAS JUST FOR STAFF DIRECTION.
WELL, THERE'S 45 MINUTES OF OUR LIFE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE GOTTA MOVE BACK TO WHICH ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
[3. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-4055, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute, for and on behalf of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, a Development Agreement, by and between the City and Beazer Homes Texas, L.P., in association with Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 253B. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)]
ITEM NUMBER THREE.CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 4 0 5 5.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS.
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE FOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND BEEZER HOMES, TEXAS, LP AND A IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE FORT BEND COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT 25 3 B MOHAMED.
FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, IT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER R 40 55 AUTHORIZING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND B HOMES TEXAS LP, THE DEVELOPER IN ASSOCIATION WITH BEND COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 2 53 B.
THIS AGREEMENT IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 369.8 28 ACRES.
TRACK LOCATED PARTIALLY WITHIN THE CITY, APPROXIMATELY 78.8 ACRES AND PARTIALLY WITHIN THE CITY'S ETJ APPROXIMATELY 290 ACRES.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF US HIGHWAY 59, INTERSTATE 69 NORTHEAST OF FORESTER SCHOOL ROAD AND SOUTHWEST OF THE WATER DEVELOPMENT.
A RESOLUTION WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025.
UH, FOLLOWING DISCUSSION, THE CONSENSUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO SEND A PROPOSED PROJECT AND AGREEMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FURTHER, UH, REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2025, STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER PRESENTED THE PROJECT AND AGREEMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FEEDBACK.
THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE MAJOR DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPERS REQUESTED CITY LIMIT AND ETJ BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS.
THE COMMISSION WAS IN FAVOR EXCEPT FOR ONE COMMISSIONER WHO WAS AGAINST THE CITY BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT.
IN ADDITION, JOHN HALL, OWNER OF THE JASON PROPERTY, SOUTHWEST OF THE TRACK, SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, BUT REQUESTED A MINOR ADJUSTMENT TO
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THE LOCATION OF A MAJOR, UH, MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.AFTER THE COMMISSION MEETING THE DEVELOPER AND MR. HOLT WORKED OUT THE THOROUGHFARE CONCERN AS NOTED IN THE LETTER FROM B-G-E-I-N-C.
THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND SUBSEQUENTLY TABLE AT THE DECEMBER 6, 16, 20 25 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING ON JANUARY 14TH, 2026.
A MEETING WAS HELD AT THE COUNTY ENGINEERING OFFICE, INCLUDING THE CITY ENGINEER, COUNTY ENGINEER, LEGAL AND DESIGN TEAMS FOR VISA HOMES AND JOHN HALL TO DISCUSS THE BE OR HOME TRACK, UH, PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
ALL PARTIES WERE SATISFIED WITH THE PROPOSED RELOCATION WITHIN THE HAND TRACK.
FURTHER PROPOSED AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES THE JUST CITY LIMITS AND ETJ BOUNDARIES BY REMOVING 66.2 ACRES FROM THE CITY LIMITS AND PLACING IT IN WITHIN THE ETJ AND ANNEXING 32.8 ACRES FROM THEIR LAND IN THE ETJ PACK INTO THE CITY LIMITS.
WITH THIS BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT PROPOSAL, THE DEVELOPER PLANS TO CREATE A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN THE ETJ SERVED BY THE DISTRICT UTILITIES.
UH, THE PROPERTY LEFT WITH, UH, THEN THE PROPERTY WILL BE LEFT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, WILL BE USED FOR DETENTION, WATER PLAN SITE, AND FOR RECREATION.
AND PARKS CITY HAS NOT YET CONSENTED TO THE NEXT EXTENSION OF THE TRACK INTO THE DISTRICT.
THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE UP TO 90 DAYS AFTER CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY TO SUBMIT A PETITION REQUESTING SUCH CONSENT.
THE AGREEMENT RESERVES RIGHT TO THE CITY TO ANNEX THE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CITY IN A FU IN THE FUTURE THROUGH A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF A MAXIMUM 1,100 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND ALLOWS FOR A MINIMUM FIVE DIFFERENT LOT RANGES FROM 40 FEET TO 70 FEET WITH MINIMUM 10% FOR EACH LOT RANGE.
THE AGREEMENT ALSO PROVIDES PRIMARY EXTERIOR MATERIALS CONSISTING OF BREAKING STONE WITH THE MINIMUM 65% OF THE FACADE, FRONT FACADE AND 50 FOR THE REMAINING FACADES.
CONSISTENT WITH BROOK ROAD WATER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT.
ALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS WILL INCLUDE MINIMUM 32 FEET PAVING SECTION.
UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO DESIGNED TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS.
RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 40 55 AUTHORIZES A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DISTRICT.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY.
WHAT'S THE RECOMME RECOMMENDATION OF THE GOOD QUESTION PLANNING COMMISSION.
WELL, I DON'T SEE IT ON THERE.
NO, THEY THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY THEY WERE IN FAVOR EXCEPT ONE COMMISSIONER.
SO I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, MOHAMED, WHO WILL BE MAINTAINING THOSE 32 ACRES OF DETENTION AND ALL THAT.
IS THAT OUR COST OF THESE TAXPAYERS THAT, THAT ARE LISTENING AND HEARING ALL THIS, UH, THE, THIS LAND WILL BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT'LL BE MAINTAINED BY THE DISTRICT, IF THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE WILL NOT BE MAINTAINING 32 ACRES OF CITY LIMIT NO, THE DETENTION PONDS AND THEN THE, THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT EVERY, WE'RE NOT GONNA, IF WE GIVE 'EM THAT NOW, WILL THE CITY ANNEX THIS IN THE FUTURE? WE COULD, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT.
WE'LL HAVE THE RIGHT, YOU'D HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, NOT THE OBLIGATION.
UNLESS CHANGE STATE LAW CHANGES AND THAT COULD CHANGE EVERY YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
WELL, IF WE GOT THAT ONE Y Y'ALL KNOW, THEY'RE THINKING OF GETTING RID OF ET JS YES.
THE LEGISLATURE OR LOOKING, I'VE HEARD TOTALLY DEREGULATING ALL ET JS.
WELL, MOHAMED, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT SPECIFIC BENEFIT DOES ROSENBERG HAVE IN THE EXCHANGE OF THIS AGREEMENT? I THINK THE BIGGEST BENEFIT IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND GETTING ALL OF THESE, UH, SPECIFIC DETAILS WITH THE QUALITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING FOR, UH, IN A STATE OF JUST BEING TAKEN OUTTA THE ETJ.
AND WE REALLY HAVE NO CONTROL, BUT IT ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO ANNEX THE DEVELOPMENT.
'CAUSE IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GIVING UP A LOT OF LAND IN RETURN OF, UH, WHAT IS IT? UH, WE GIVING, UH, WE'RE GETTING ABOUT HALF, HALF OF THE LAND THAT'S BEING, THEY'RE GETTING TWO TO ONE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF OF GETTING IT AN RE ANNEXED IN THE FUTURE.
HE WAS WILLING TO GIVE SIMILAR AMOUNT OF LAND, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE WITHIN CREEKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S A BIG CREEK THAT YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND WE THOUGHT IT MAY BETTER JUST TO STAY WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND, AND MAINTAIN IT.
AND THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD SOME HOMES ON 40 FOOT LOTS.
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40, 50 AND 60 AND 70.WELL, NOTE, I DON'T LIKE, WE NEED TO NOTE THAT NONE OF THOSE WILL BE IN THE CITY LIMIT.
NONE OF IT WILL BE IN THE CITY LIMITS AS OF NOW.
WELL, AS OF THE AGREEMENT, YEAH.
THEY'LL BE IN THE E TWO J AND IF THE LEGISLATURE LETS THEM OUT, THEY'RE FREE.
THEY CAN STILL AND TAKE THE LAND OUTTA ETJ AND IT STILL BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BUILD AS OF NOW, NOT THE PORTION IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WELL, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE WANTING TWO TO ONE, AND USUALLY WE WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR THE CITY? WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE MISSING? LET'S LET THE ATTORNEY TELL
UH, HI, UH, RICHARD MUELLER WITH THE MUELLER LAW GROUP HERE ON BEHALF OF, OF BEEZER HOMES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AS MOHAMMAD MENTIONED, WE, WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED KEEPING THE ACRES ONE-TO-ONE, BUT THAT WOULD'VE INCLUDED MORE, UH, OF THE CREEK BED THAT YOU SEE STAFF, I THINK RIGHTFULLY SAID, WE'D RATHER YOU JUST KEEP THAT AND, AND, BUT I MEAN, WE'LL GIVE YOU 66, WE'LL LEAVE 66 ACRES IN IF, IF THAT'S THAT IMPORTANT.
THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT IT IS, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SECURING HERE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ACREAGE, IS THAT YOU'RE GETTING TO KEEP THE WHOLE 369 WITHIN THE CITY'S ETJ.
LIKE ONCE WE SIGN THIS AGREEMENT AND THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, IT CAN'T BE TAKEN OUT OF THE ETJ.
SO I WOULD THINK OF IT AS YOU'RE GETTING TO KEEP TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY ONE NINETY NINE ACRES UNDER YOUR CONTROL AS OPPOSED TO, UH, IT COMING OUT OF THE ETJ.
AND AS MOHAMMAD MENTIONED, THEN THEY COULD BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANTED ON IT.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD RATIO FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
AND IF THE CITY WANTS TO ANNEX IN, HOW MANY YEARS WOULD THAT BE? SAY, 3, 4, 5 OR, THERE'S NOT A TIMEFRAME.
IT'S TYPICALLY Y'ALL WOULD, Y'ALL, THE WAY THE THIS S SPAS WORK IS WE'VE GOTTA GET THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT, WHICH IS PROBABLY FOUR TO FOUR TO SIX YEARS.
UM, AND THEN IT'S REALLY A QUESTION AT THAT POINT OF WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE ON THE, THE, THE MUD DEBT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE MUD TAXES.
SO IT BECOMES A TAX RATE QUESTION.
IN REALITY, WE'RE USUALLY LOOKING AT 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU WANT THE MUD TO PAY EVERYTHING OFF BEFORE YOU ANNEX, BEFORE YOU GET STUCK WITH THE DEBT.
THAT'S, I THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S ASSUMING YOU DON'T BUILD AND DEVELOP MORE AND, AND GET INTO MORE DEBT, MORE MUD DEBT.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN THE, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IS, IS THAT THE IDEA IS THIS JUST BECOMES AN EXTENSION OF BROOKWATER.
UM, THE, THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THAT BROOK WATER'S GOT A WATER PLANT AND A WASTEWATER PLANT.
BY GOING INTO BROOKWATER AND BEING PART OF THAT SYSTEM, WE ACTUALLY ISSUE LESS DEBT THAN IF IT WAS TO STAY ON ITS OWN.
AND YOU HAD TO DO YOUR OWN WATER PLANT AND WASTEWATER PLANT.
AND WE HAVE A SIMILAR AGREEMENT WITH BROOKWATER, AND WE ALSO HAVE THAT STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT.
SO BOTH COULD BE ANNEXED BY THE CITY IN THE FUTURE.
ANOTHER BENEFIT WHICH REMOTE AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, IF THERE'S ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YEP.
WE CAN, WE CAN ACTUALLY ANNEX IT JUST FOR LIMITED PURPOSES, JUST FOR TAXES, FOR SALES.
BUT THIS IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO COMMERCIAL COMES IN THERE AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN
AND MR. HALL, UH, IS, UH, ALL THE AGREEMENTS.
WE, WE, WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH HIM.
UM, WE'VE ADJUSTED OUR DOC DOCUMENT, UH, TO REFLECT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AND WITH MR. HALL.
UM, WE HAD SENT HIM A TERM SHEET JUST BETWEEN US AND, AND HIM.
AND SO HE HASN'T GOTTEN THAT BACK TO US, BUT AS MOHAMMAD SAID, WE WERE ALL IN THE ROOM WITH THE COUNTY, EVERYBODY WAS SATISFIED, AND WE ADJUSTED OUR LAND PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE HIS REQUEST FOR THE ROAD THAT HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT.
WHAT ARE THE STREETS IN BROOKWATER? THE WIDTH.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT, THAT Y'ALL ARE GOOD AT.
AT WE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED 30, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD DO 32 AS OPPOSED TO 30, WHICH IS WHAT BROOKE WATER HAS.
AND 32 IS WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
WELL, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE ROAD.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DRIVE BY THERE ALL THE TIME.
UH, WILL IT BEATS WELL, NEVERMIND.
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OKAY.SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT IS, YOU CAN TELL YOU SEE THE STEAM COMING OFF OF EVERYBODY SAYING YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT THE WAY, IF I WERE TO BOIL IT DOWN TO THE SIMPLEST DECISION I'VE GOT, THIS AGREEMENT GETS YOU A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPER IN BE HOMES.
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IT WITH BROOKE WATER.
UM, IT'S BEEN UNDER CONTRACT FOR I THINK A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND SO WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO GET THE DEAL DONE.
THIS IS KIND OF THE, A BIRD IN HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPER, YOU'RE GONNA GET A CONTINUATION OF THE BROOKWATER SUBDIVISION IF, IF YOU DON'T DO IT, PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT IT FALLS OUTTA CONTRACT.
SOMEBODY WILL COME ALONG AND, AND DEVELOP IT, AND THEN THEY'LL KNOW THEY, THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT, UH, TO, TO STAY IN THE ETJ AND IT'LL JUST GET DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE ETJ.
I MEAN THAT REALLY YOUR DECISION FOR IS, I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, OF THE, WHEN WE WERE SWITCHING AT FIRST, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO SOME MAINTENANCE.
THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN, WHERE WE'RE GONNA, HERE, WE'RE NOT SPENDING NO TAXPAYER MONEY.
SO, SO TO BE CLEAR, IT'LL BE IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THE FACILITY WILL BE OWNED BY THE, THE MUD.
AND THE MUD WILL BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP KEEP OF THE FACILITY.
I MEAN, IS THAT FACILITY TAXABLE? NO.
SO WHEN Y'ALL WILL NOT BE CITY WATER CUSTOMERS OR SEWER CUSTOMERS? NOT, NOT YET.
UM, THE BROOK WATER, UM, PLANT IS ACTUALLY, THERE'S AN INTERCONNECT WITH THE CITY SYSTEM.
AND EVENTUALLY IT'LL BE PART OF, UH, EVENTUALLY IT'LL BE PART OF THE CITY SYSTEM.
SO YOU, THEY WILL BE CITY CUSTOMERS AT SUBWAY WHEN BROOK WATER GETS ANNEXED WILL END UP BEING CITY CUSTOMERS, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T AMEX TO THIS.
SO, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WITH, UM, THE, THE ESD IN THIS AREA, THERE'LL HAVE TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THEIR BOUNDARIES TO, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE CITY BOUNDARIES.
BUT THEY ALREADY ARE AWARE OF US AND THE ESD WILL PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
AND WE ASKED THE CITY IF THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE SERVICE, AND I THINK IT WAS TOO FAR OUT FOR YOU GUYS.
IT WAS GONNA AFFECT YOUR IS O RATING.
WE DID, WE DID NOT WI I MEAN, Y'ALL DID NOT WISH TO PROVIDE, UH, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
I, I THINK THE ISSUE WAS WITH RESPONSE TIMES, IT CAN AFFECT YOUR ISO RATING AND IT WAS JUST THE DISTANCE THAT, THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO.
AND I BELIEVE YOU, YOU'RE CURRENTLY IN THE ESD, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, WE'RE IN THE ESD FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT ALREADY.
SO, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD JUST TAKE OVER WITHOUT THE ESD TAKING SOME ACTION AND THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL.
BUT, BUT WE DID ASK IF THE CITY WANTED TO DO IT, I THINK THE, THE RESPONSE WAS THAT IT WAS GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR ISO RATINGS FOR YOUR TAXPAYERS.
SO THIS IS CLOSER TO BEASLEY THAN IT IS ROSENBERG? YES, SIR.
THIS IS AT THE VERY FRINGE OF YOUR JURISDICTION, AND I DUNNO IF YOU'VE GOT THE MAP, BUT IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S WAY, WAY FAR AWAY, MOHAMMED.
WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT DO YOU ALL RECOMMEND? ARE YOU, ARE YOU WELL, IT WAS A TOUGH ONE, BUT I MEAN, UH, WE LOOKED AT ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UH, INITIALLY WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE THE CITY WANTS 70 FOOT LOTS.
SO THIS IS THE BEST THAT WE COULD HAVE COME UP WITH, I THINK.
I THINK UNDER THE, UNDER THE, THE THREAT ALSO OF POSSIBLE TOTAL DEREGULATION OF THE LEGISLATURE.
AND IF THAT'S, IF THAT OCCURS, OF COURSE, BY THEN THE, THE DEAL WILL HAVE FALLEN THROUGH, BUT, WELL, NO, I THINK, I THINK THAT, WE'LL, MY INTENT WOULD BE THAT WE'D HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT EXECUTED AS SOON AS THEY CLOSE.
SO ALL OF THAT WOULD PREDATE THE CHANGE IN THE, THE LEGISLATURE.
I MEAN, THEORETICALLY THEY COULD CHANGE IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD IMPACT YOUR CONTRACTS, BUT DO THEY USUALLY TRY TO AVOID THAT? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT ARE THE, THESE ARE START, ARE THESE STARTER HOMES? NO, NO, NO.
UM, BROOKE WATER, YOU, UM, WHAT'S YOUR PRICE RANGE? YEAH, SO BROOKE WATER'S NOT STAR HOMES.
UH, I ARE THESE LIKE 300? YEAH.
I CAN TRY TO GET YOU THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE IF YOU GIVE ME, WANT ME TO THAT? YEAH.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A, ARE YOU WITH BEEZER HOMES? I'M WITH THESE HOMES.
ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL H WE'LL HEAR WHAT YOU SAID TO SAY.
ASK YOUR GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.
WE'VE BEEN, UH, BUILDING AND DEVELOPING MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, UH, FOR 30 PLUS YEARS IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.
WE BUILD A, AN UPSCALE HOUSING PRODUCT.
EVERYTHING FROM, UH, HOMES ON 40 FOOT LOTS, UP TO HOMES ON 60 AND 70 FOOT LOTS.
SO IT'S A BROAD ARRAY OF PRODUCT THAT WE BUILD.
UH, WE DO A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT WITH, UH, EXTENSIVE AMENITIES IN EVERY ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
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UM, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR, UH, ARABELLA ON THE PRAIRIE COMMUNITY.UH, WE'RE BUILDING IN SEVERAL MASTER PLANT COMMUNITIES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE HOUSTON REGION.
SO, UH, WE ARE NOT A STARTER HOME, UH, BUILDER.
OUR HOMES TYPICALLY, UH, START IN THE LOW FOUR HUNDREDS AND RANGE UP OVER 500.
WE HAVE SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'RE IN THESE SEVEN, $800,000 RANGE, UH, IN SOME VERY HIGH END MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE WILL START OUT? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE WILL START OUT? PROBABLY IN THE LOW FOURS.
I MEAN, WE WOULD PROBABLY START 3 99 FOR EVEN THE 40 FOOT LOTS SIZE ONES.
WELL, THE HOMES START AT 1600 SQUARE FEET ON A 40 FOOT LOT AND GO UP TO 2,800 SQUARE FEET.
NOW THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD'VE A, A WIDE ARRAY OF PRODUCT.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALL 40 FOOT.
RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE SECTIONS OF THIS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WOULD OFFER A BROAD ARRAY OF PRODUCT.
WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THERE, BUT IT'S GONNA LAUGH AT ME AGAIN 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF MY LITTLE PET PEEVES BECAUSE OF WHAT I DO FOR MY OCCUPATION.
WHERE DO YOU PUT THE HOT WATER HEATER? WHERE DO YOU PUT THE HOT WATER HEATER? MM-HMM
WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO COVER THEY ALL HEATER? BECAUSE I WORK IN INSURANCE.
AND MORE AND MORE CARRIERS WILL NOT COVER A HOME IF THE HOT WATER HEATER IS IN THE ATTIC IN MORE THAN 10 MINUTES.
SO IN THE GARAGE, BUT IT MAKES ME NERVOUS.
THEY GO INTO A GARAGE QUESTION.
SO I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE EVERY DEVELOPER THAT COMES.
YOU NEED TO REDESIGN IF YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN THE ATTIC, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE FUTURE CITIZENS.
I WOULD, WOULD THAT ENCOURAGE BECOMES A HUGE ISSUE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VISIT BEEZER.COM.
WE ARE AMERICA AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE ENERGY EFFICIENT HOME BUILDER.
WE BUILD HOMES UNLIKE ANY OTHER BUILDER IN, IN THIS MARKET.
SO, AND ONLY ONE TREE IN THE HA FRONT YARD AND NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE HOUSE, RIGHT?
IS IT, IS IT, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT UM, YOUR HOUSES ARE NOT GONNA BE BUILDER GRADE ARE GOING TO BE, SAY THAT AGAIN SIR.
IS IT, IS IT, UH, GOOD TO SAY, IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT NONE OF YOUR HOUSES ARE GONNA BE BUILDER GRADE QUALITY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S MATERIALS.
WELL, THE WAY THEY RANK THEM IS BUILDERS GRADE, SEMI-CUSTOM, CUSTOM MATERIALS.
YOU KNOW, PREMIER, THAT'S HOW INSURANCE RATES HOMES.
YOU'RE ABOUT LIKE COUNTERTOPS.
YEAH, COUNTERTOPS, CABINETS, THAT SORT OF THING IS WHAT THEY'RE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S EITHER BUILD A GRADE UP TO SEMI-CUSTOM.
IT, IT'S, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WILL BE BUILD A GRADE? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE HOUSE WILL BE BUILD A GRADE? I DO NOT.
OH, I BET I HAVE FOUND MOST NEW ONES ARE MOSTLY ALL CONSIDERED SEMI-CUSTOM NOWADAYS.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY, A WHOLE LOT OF LAMINATE COUNTERS.
THEY'RE ALL SEMI CUSTOM BY BUILD GRADE IS LAMINATE COUNTERTOPS.
MATERIALS IN THESE HOMES ARE JUST, UH, MATERIALS IN GENERAL.
YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON, ON A PAR WITH WHAT YOU SEE IN A SEMI CUSTOMER CUSTOM HOME.
ANYBODY? UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUSH YOUR SAY GREEN.
[4. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-23, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, annexing, for full purposes, 34.2116-acre (called 35.264 acres) (1,490,258 square feet) tract of land, being the remainder of the call Laverne C. & Barbara May Tract I. - 10.00-acre tract (FBC 2002048692 & FBC 2002055974); call Tract II - 0.8109-acre tract (FBC 2002055974) and call Tract III. - 24.2672-acre tract (Volume 2025, Page 2520; Official Public Records); all being in the Emma Meyer Survey, Abstract Number 701, and being a part of Section No. 8, H. & T.C. Railroad Company Survey, Fort Bend County, Texas; extending the boundaries of the City to include the land; binding the land to all acts, ordinances, resolutions and regulations of the City; approving a service plan; and providing an effective date. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)]
OR IS THAT IT? NO, THAT'S, I'M SORRY.ONE MORE CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 23.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS AND EXITING FOR FULL PURPOSES, 34.2116 ACRES CALLED UH, 35.264 ACRES OR 1,490,258 SQUARE FEET.
TRACK OF LAND BEING THE REMAINDER OF CALL LAVERNE.
AND BARBARA MAY TRACK ONE DASH 10 ACRE TRACK FBC 2 0 0 2.
AND, AND MAYOR, FOR, FOR PURPOSES OF READING THE ITEM, I I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT IT SUFFICIENT.
WE, WE GOTTA OVER INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT SO THE PUBLIC HAS NOTICE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF READING THE ITEM, I, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL GET TO THAT SPEAKER.
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POTTER.LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM, CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR? YES, SIR.
COLIN POTTER, UH, REPRESENTING QUICKTRIP CORPORATION.
UH, TOMBALL PARKWAY, HOUSTON, TEXAS, UM, HERE TODAY.
UM, TO JUST ASK THAT THIS ITEM BE TABLED SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT.
WE'VE RECENTLY GONE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.
UH, THEY WERE IN MOTION TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY AND PLAT.
UM, WE'VE RECENTLY GONE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THEM TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND BUILD A QUICKTRIP HOPE ALL YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH QUICKTRIP OR QT IN TEXAS.
UM, WE'RE ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE CONVENIENCE STORES IN THE NATION.
UH, OWNING, OPERATING OVER 1200 STORES, NEVER FRANCHISED.
UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO COME TO ROSENBERG, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST AT THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF THE CONTRACT.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN COMPLETED OUR SURVEY, BUT WE HAVE HAD A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH MR. HAMAD AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH HIM TOMORROW TO DISCUSS THIS.
SO DIDN'T YOU ASK, JUST ASKING TO BE ON HERE.
SO HE WAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS.
I'M HERE AS A PERSON UNDER CONTRACT AND A CITIZEN.
UH, MY SELLERS ARE HERE FOR THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM.
SO YOU PREFER A TABLE OR A POSTPONE TABLE IS NEXT WEEK? POSTPONE IS, WE CAN PICK THE DATE IN THE FUTURE.
PROBABLY POSTPONE IF IT'S NEXT WEEK.
UM, IF IT'S TABLE, IT'S NEXT WEEK.
IF WE POSTPONE, IT'LL BE AND IT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS.
I, I, WELL STILL, LET'S POSTPONE IT AND GIVE Y'ALL PLENTY OF TIME.
WOULD YOU PREFER TO POSTPONE IT SO Y'ALL CAN HAVE PLENTY OF TIME? WE WOULD AT THIS POINT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
UM, I'LL SECOND ITEM, UM, FOUR.
WELL, I'M A, I'M GONNA DO THE ORDINANCE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, POSTPONE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 23.
POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING OR INDEFINITE.
POSTPONE IS WHEN YOU PICK A DATE WHEN YOU TABLES TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU TABLE SOMETHING IS COMES UP TO THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE, BUT Y'ALL CAN PICK A DATE AND
I'M EXCITED TO COME TO ROSENBURG.
[6. Hold Executive Session to consult with City Attorney to deliberate economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code. ]
WE GO TO SECOND.YOU, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL SECOND MOVE.
WE GO IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[7. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Regular Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session.]
WE WILL RECONVENE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:30 PM I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.MADE BY STEVE, SECOND BY HECTOR.
LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ADJOURNED THEN.