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SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ]
CAN CALL IT TO ORDER.ALRIGHT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW AT 6:49 PM
[ Announcements. ]
UH, LET ME READ SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.THIS IS A GOOD, HAPPY ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE ROSENBERG ANIMAL SHELTER WILL HAVE A, AN ADOPTION EVENT ON FRIDAY, JULY 3RD FROM 11:00 AM TO 11, I'M SORRY, 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED THAT DAY, BUT THE SHELTER WILL BE OPEN FOR THIS ADOPTION EVENT.
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME AND SEE THE WONDERFUL DOGS AND CATS AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION.
ADOPTION FEES HAVE BEEN WAIVED AND ALL PETS COME SPAYED AND NEUTERED RABIES VACCINE, BASIC CORE VACCINE AND MICROCHIPPED.
FRIENDS OF ROSENBERG, HOMELESS PETTS WILL, WILL BE PROVIDING SNOW CONES, POPCORN, AND GOODIES FOR EVERYONE WHO COMES TO OUR SHELTER.
COME AND FIND A FURRY FAMILY MEMBER.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE CAROLYN SEILER AND HER FRIENDS THAT HELP DO THESE EVENTS.
UM, ARE SHELTERS OVERCROWDED AS IT IS, BUT IT WOULD BE MORE OVERCROWDED WITHOUT HER.
ALSO, SHE, I WANT TO JUST ANNOUNCED LAST WEEKEND THEY HAD AN ADOPTION EVENT AT LEGACY FORD.
THEY WERE THERE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOURS, BUT IN TWO AND A HALF HOURS THEY ADOPTED OUT THREE DOGS.
THAT'S PRETTY RARE IF YOU DO IT IN EVEN IN SIX HOURS.
SO THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL A VERY SUCCESSFUL OCCASION.
WHERE IS CAROLYN? THERE SHE IS.
SO THAT IS PRETTY REMARKABLE FOR THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S SOME MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
AS I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL HOLIDAY, 4TH OF JULY, WHICH IS ON SATURDAY CITY F THE CITY OFFICES, SOME OF THEM, THIS BUILDING WILL BE CLOSED FRIDAY, JULY 3RD IN OBSERVANCE OF INDEPENDENCE DAY HOLIDAY.
NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WILL RESUME MONDAY, JULY 6TH.
THERE WILL BE NO INTERRUPTION IN OUR TRASH SERVICE.
GFL WILL OPERATE ACCORDING TO ITS REGULAR SCHEDULE.
4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION SET FOR JULY 4TH.
LET'S KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GET RAINED OUT.
THE CITY OF ROSENBERG HOST DAY FAMILY FOUR CELEBRATION ON SATURDAY, JULY 4TH AT SEABORNE CREEK NATURE PARK FROM SIX TO 10:00 PM UH, THIS IS THE 27TH ANNUAL SPECIAL EVENT AND WE'LL FEATURE STILL COUNTRY.
UM, THEY PLAY A LOT OF GREAT MUSIC, NOT JUST COUNTRY.
THEY DON'T PLAY JUST COUNTRY IN WESTERN.
THEY PLAY ROCK AND ROLL, UM, AND OTHER STUFF.
UH, THERE WILL BE DELICIOUS FOOD, FAMILY FUN, AND AN UNFORGETTABLE FIREWORKS FINALE.
THIS EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
FREE PARKING, FREE FIREWORKS, FREE MUSIC.
I MEAN, WHAT ELSE? YOU KNOW? FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV.
CITY OF ROSENBERG IS NOW SPRAYING FOR MOSQUITOES ON WEDNESDAYS AND SATURDAYS.
IF IT'S NOT RAINING, YOU KNOW, NO NEED TO SPRAY IN THE RAIN, IT WOULDN'T DO NO GOOD.
UM, WE HAVE ASKED FOR MORE MOSQUITO SPRAYING.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS SO HAS OTHER, EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN MOSQUITO SPRAYER.
WE FOUND IT'S MORE EFFICIENT, MORE, MORE EFFECTIVE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT.
BUT THE, ALL THE MOSQUITO CONTRACTORS IS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, ARE PRETTY BUSY RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF IT EVER COMES TO WHERE THEY CAN SPRAY EXTRA JOISTS, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD 'CAUSE PEOPLE ASK ABOUT IT.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM OUR COUNCIL? HOW ABOUT YOU? PAPASAN? GEORGE? GOT ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? CONGRATULATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE BIG CHANGE TODAY.
THANK VERY MUCH FOR SERVING, UM, FELIX, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE REFRESHMENTS AND DESSERTS THAT WE HAD TODAY.
STEVE, ARE YOU COMING TO THE 4TH OF JULY AT SEABORN? IT DOESN'T RAIN.
250TH YEAR SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THE COUNTRY.
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NOT GONNA BE JUST AN AVERAGE CELEBRATION.WE GOTTA DO THIS ONE A LITTLE BETTER.
RIGHT? ALRIGHT, OUR NEW NEWS COUNCIL MEMBER.
SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO YOU'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE? JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE SUPPORT I'VE GOTTEN.
SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND, UM, LET'S SEE.
DID WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA? NO, NOT ON A WORKSHOP, I SUPPOSE.
[1. Review and discuss downtown parking, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]
WELL I'LL READ THE FIRST ITEM IN REVIEW AND DISCUSS DOWNTOWN PARKING.SHERRY, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT OR AFTER? I MEAN, BEFORE WE, HE READS, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU COME NOW AND, AND BECAUSE WHAT YOU SAY MAY IMPACT HOW THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, REACTS.
HE'S GONNA GET YOUR MICROPHONE HOOKED UP.
I'M SHERRY ALEXANDER, GET YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
ALEXANDER AND COMPANY ON THIRD STREET.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING SEV UM, SEVERE PARKING ISSUES FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UM, PEOPLE, OUR CUSTOMERS CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
THEY'RE HAVING TO DRIVE AROUND AND, UM, I'VE HAD SEVERAL CUSTOMERS NOT EVEN COMING IN ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
THOSE SEEMS TO BE REALLY THE WORST DAYS FOR US.
UM, SO IT'S STARTING TO AFFECT OUR BUSINESS AND A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN YOU, ARE YOU BETWEEN H AND G ON THIRD, BETWEEN DOS AND THE REESE BUILDING? NO, I'M BETWEEN, UM, PORTILLA AND, UH, SOUTHERN SISTERS OR ONCE, ONCE AND AGAIN NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE BETWEEN G AND F? YES.
WELL IT'S PROBABLY WORSE EVEN BETWEEN H AND G.
'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE OVERFLOW.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR STORES ARE NOT PEOPLE SHOPPING IN THIS AREA.
THEY'RE COMING OVER FROM, FROM WHERE? THEY'RE COMING OVER FROM THE NONPROFIT CENTER AND PARKING.
WHAT'S THE NAME FROM HOPE? YES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NONPROFITS THERE OTHER THAN HOPE? I AM NOT SURE AT THIS TIME.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME NEW THING CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING IN THOSE FACILITIES, BUT I KNOW SINCE HOPE HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE, THAT IS WHEN OUR PARKING ISSUE HAS BECOME VERY SEVERE.
SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.
I I DON'T THINK, UM, PAID PARKING IS GOING TO BE IT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA DETER A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN ON THE WEEKENDS JUST STOPPING TO LOOK AROUND OUTSIDE VISITORS AND STUFF.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR IDEAS.
DO US A FAVOR, JUST STAY HERE AT THE PODIUM.
BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND ASK YOU WHAT YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO, UH, RIGO, GO AHEAD AND SURE.
UH, THIS, THIS AGENDA ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILOR DEGORIO TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND OTHER DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS TO EXPRESS CONCERNS RELATED TO THE CURRENT PARKING CONDITION, THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS AND, UH, WHAT DOES COUNSEL, UH, WANNA GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO WE CAN TRY TO ADDRESS WHATEVER CONCERNS Y'ALL WE SEE.
I, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A SOLUTION.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT, THAT PARKING LOT, THAT'S BIG CITY PARKING LOT RIGHT ACROSS FROM AVENUE F IT, STEVE, CAN YOU CHOKE UP A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR MIC? IT'S ONLY A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY FROM THAT NEW HOPE PLACE.
AND IF WE CAN GET THE OWNER OF THIS TO LIKE, TELL HIS PEOPLE TO USE THAT PARKING LOT, RATHER THAN TAKE ALL THE PARKING LOT PLACES HERE AND FOR THE BUSINESSES.
NOW A COUPLE OF THINGS, STEVEN, AND, AND I'M NOT BEING ARGUMENTATIVE WITH YOU BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU, BUT YOU, YOU, YOU USE THE WORD TELL THEM.
AND I THINK THEY HAVE ASKED THEM SO WE COULD ASK THEM AGAIN.
BUT I RECALL BEING IN DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE I, YOU KNOW, YOU GO PARK AND THEY HAVE HERE, HERE'S THE THING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON DOWNTOWN.
THERE'S, UH, A PLACE THAT PEOPLE GO THERE FOR, FOR, IT'S A, IT'S A POSITIVE THING.
UM, AND THEY'RE, UH, BUT THEY'RE THERE FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
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IT'S A NONPROFIT.THE NONPROFIT AS YOU KNOW, DOES NOT GENERATE ANY PROPERTY TAX DOES NOT GENERATE ANY SALES TAX.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS.
BUT AT THE, IN THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT, UM, ARE INVOLVED IN COMMERCE AND RETAIL.
THEY RELY ON, UM, FOOT TRAFFIC.
THEY RELY ON PEOPLE DRIVING UP, DRIVING OFF THIS AND THAT.
UM, SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I RECALL, UH, I HAVE SEEN, UH, LIKE TIME LIMITS, TIME LIMIT PARKING, AND I THINK W WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY A LOT OF THOSE CARS THAT PARK IN FRONT OF YOUR PLACE, UM, ARE THEY THERE LONGER THAN, AND I, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO QUESTION.
THEY DIDN'T GO IN AND SHOP AND BUY SOMETHING.
NO, THAT'S, SO THEY'RE TWO, THREE HOURS, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO DO YOU THINK IF WE PUT A, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE CAN, WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE LAWYER AND HE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO RESEARCH IT.
HE'S GOT THAT LOOK AT HIS EYE THAT HE'S GOTTA GO BACK AND RESEARCH IT AND HE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE.
I'M GONNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW RIGHT NOW.
HE REPRESENTS, UH, SEVERAL CITIES IN THE HOUSTON AREA, SO WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WITH HIM.
HE, HE'S, HE'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THIS STUFF PRIOR, BE PRIOR TO THIS.
BUT, UM, DO YOU THINK IF, IF IT, IF IT COULD BE DONE LEGALLY THAT, UH, PUTTING A TIME LIMIT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTE PARKING LIMIT, WOULD THAT MAYBE GIVE SOME RELIEF? YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL? WELL, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF 30 MINUTES, 'CAUSE YOU WANT 'EM, YOU WANT PEOPLE IN THERE ESPECIALLY COMING IN JUST TO KIND OF LOOK AROUND AT A FEW PLACES.
OR IF THEY WERE GOING TO EAT AT SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS, I DON'T THINK 30 MINUTES IS GONNA BE ENOUGH.
SO YOU 30 MINUTES MIGHT BE TOO RESTRICTIVE.
I THINK IT MAY BE TOO RESTRICTED.
WHAT ABOUT AN HOUR? MAYBE AN HOUR? YES.
AND THE, THE THING IS, IS IF, UM, UH, WHEN IT GETS TO BE A PROBLEM, WE PASS THIS, SOMEBODY PARKS THERE, HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WHEN THAT CAR STAYS THERE, YOU ARE GONNA CALL AND THEN IT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
BECAUSE IF, IF WE, IF WE AGREE HERE AND THEN WE PASS AN ORDINANCE, YOU'RE GONNA EXPECT, AS ALL CITIZENS DO, WHEN WE PASS AN ORDINANCE, IMMEDIATE RELIEF AS SOON AS WE PASS IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
DON'T TAKE ANY OFFENSE TO THAT.
BUT IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HUMAN NATURE.
SO PLEASE KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GRADUAL, UH, BEHAVIORAL KIND OF A CONDITIONING, KIND OF A CONDITIONING THING.
UM, THEY'D CITY WOULD HAVE TO PUT SIGNAGE.
BUT LET'S SEE IF WE'RE NOT OUT OF KILTER HERE.
AND LET'S SEE IF GRADY THINKS GRADY, HAVE YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS IN ANY OF, WITH ANY OF YOUR OTHER CLIENTS SLASH CUSTOMERS SLASH CITIES
DO YOU KN I IS IS, IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IS THAT, UM, INAPPROPRIATE OR, UH, JUST TOTALLY OUT OF, UH, SYNC FROM WHAT THE MALL PROVIDES? NO, IT'S, IT'S A PUBLIC STREET.
IT, EVERYBODY CAN PARK THERE MM-HMM
BUT YOU CAN PUT REASONABLE LIMITS IF YOU WANT TO SAY AN HOUR, THAT'S FINE.
OR WHATEVER THE TIME AMOUNT IS THE CORRECT TIME AMOUNT.
BUT THE QUESTION IS THE ENFORCEMENT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE WHAT I USED TO CALL METER MAIDS.
IT'S, IT'S, THEY USUALLY CHALK THE TIRES.
NO, WE, UH, WE ENFORCE IT LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINANCE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REA UM, REACTIVE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REACTIVE AND, AND INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE, AND WE, THE MERCHANTS BELIEVE ME, WOULD TURN IT IN.
LET'S, LET'S GET A LEGAL OPINION.
BUT DO YOU SEE ANYTHING, HAVE YOU HEARD OF ANYTHING LEGALLY THAT WOULD, UH, PROHIBIT CITI FROM DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS? NO, BUT I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK IF A COMPLAINT WAS TURNED IN BY A BUSINESS OWNER ABOUT A CAR.
IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR THEM TO WRITE A CITATION.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND THE CITY WOULD, THE, THE POLICE WOULD COME OVER AND GIVE 'EM A WARNING OR, YOU KNOW, THIS AND THAT.
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE IF YOU'VE HEARD OF ANY PROHIBITION LEGALLY.
WE, WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THE RE THE ENFORCEMENT PART OF IT.
GEORGE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? UH, MA'AM.
GEORGE, SPEAK UP INTO THE MIC PLEASE, MA'AM.
UM, IS IT DOTO THAT WAS, UH, THEY WERE ALL UPSTAIRS AND THEN THEY MOVED DOWNSTAIRS TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
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THAT YOUR PROBLEM THERE? NO, I'M, I'M CLOSER TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.I'M CORNER FROM, I'M CATTY CORNER FROM ANOTHER TIME SODA FOUNTAIN.
AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING FROM THAT SIDE AND USING UP ALL THE PARKING SPOTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF, LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU'VE SPOKE TO HOPE, IF THEY CAN TALK TO THEM AGAIN.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, I THINK THEY'RE AWARE OF THE, THE ISSUE.
WELL, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, YOU GOT A NON-PROFIT, THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANY PROPERTY TAXES.
THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE EXPANDING, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GONNA GET BIGGER.
THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE PARKING PLACES AND THEY, THEY JUST TAKE EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO GO AND TALK TO THE GUY AND THE REASON WITH THEM AND TELL 'EM THOSE, ASK THEM TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE START PARKING IN THAT CITY LIGHT.
WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY, YOU DON'T, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A, WELL, A COUNCIL DECISION.
BUT, UM, LET'S GET A CONCURRENT, LET'S SEE IF THE GROUP CONCURS ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF Y'ALL WISH TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.
SO, FELIX, THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF, UM, MAKE CONTACT WITH HOPE AND RESPECTFULLY ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER, UH, ASKING THEIR, THEIR PATRONS TO PARK OVER THERE IF THEY WOULD PARK AT THE YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH THE BIG PARKING LOT.
UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYBE ME AND STEVE CAN GO OUT THERE AS WELL.
UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T SUGGEST THAT.
YOU DON'T WANT ANY ALLEGATIONS OF OFFICIAL OPPRESSION.
PEOPLE WILL, PEOPLE WILL SAY, AND THEY WILL LIE ON YOU.
THEY WILL LIE ON YOU AND SAY THAT YOU WENT IN THERE AND TRIED TO STRONG ARM THEM.
LET THE WELL, YEAH, WELL, WE CAN GET THE CITY TO GO OUT THERE AND SPEAK TO THEM.
UH, BECAUSE, UH, I MEAN, IT'S HURTING THE DOWNTOWN, UH, CHARISMA AND DOWNTOWN, UH, STORES.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FORGET ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO, WE GO TO KIND OF, I WOULDN'T SAY TELL 'EM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ADVISE 'EM THAT HEY, THAT PARKING LOT'S FOR THAT.
UH, WELL, Y'ALL KNOW, Y'ALL KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND IF, IF IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR A, FOR THIS PERSON TO, I MEAN, HE CAN TELL 'EM, BUT HE CAN'T MAKE 'EM.
BUT LET'S SEE WHAT, SCOTT, SCOTT, DO YOU, OR DO YOU CONCUR WITH, UM, HAVING A STAFF MEMBER TRY TO, UH, TALK WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF, OF THIS NONPROFIT, UM, AND, AND ASK THEM, UH, IF THEY WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THEIR CLIENTS IF THEY WOULD PARK AT THE, THE BIG PARKING LOT, UH, ON AVENUE FI AGREE TO THAT.
I MEAN, I AGREE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO, IT'S NOT GONNA MATTER.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT THEY WANT, BUT RIGHT.
WE CAN TRY AND, WELL, WELL, WELL THIS IS, THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE WILL BRING UP THE OTHER IN A MINUTE.
BUT I THINK, UH, I THINK WE JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY WHERE THEY CAN EXPAND INFINITELY, HOWEVER BIG THEY WANT AND PROVIDE 'EM SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE TO MOVE THERE INSTEAD OF OKAY.
GEORGE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH STAFF GOING AND ASKING THEM IF THEY'LL TRY TO LO LOCATE TO, I MEAN, PARK IN THE OTHER, IN THE BIG PARKING LOT WHERE THEY HAD CINCO DE MAYO? I THINK, I THINK IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, IF WE WOULD CATER TO THAT.
CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC, GEORGE? DO, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE STAFF GOING AND ASKING THEM? UH, NO.
MAYOR, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, WE, WE HAVE SPOKE TO THEM TWICE IN THE PAST.
UH, ONE WAS OVER A YEAR AGO AND PROBABLY ONCE AFTER THAT, UM, MYSELF, FORMER CITY MANAGER, NO POLICE CHIEF WAS IN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS.
SO WE HAVE DONE THAT TWICE ALREADY.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY THAT AGAIN.
SO, COUNSEL, AND BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, WHERE THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING, FEEL FREE TO INTERJECT AND CUT THE DISCUSSION OFF SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
JOYCE, WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE TO THAT WHEN Y'ALL WENT TO GO SPEAK WITH THEM? I MEAN, THEY, THEY REALLY DIDN'T RESPONSE.
I MEAN, WE JUST TOLD THEM THAT IF, IF THEY COULD USE, UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT THAT'S DOWN THERE.
AND I'M SURE HE SAID HE WOULD LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHO ATTEND HIS PLACE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT.
SO THEY JUST CONTINUE TO PARK THERE.
MAYOR, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ADD ONE MORE COMMENT JUST 'CAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT AN HOUR LIMIT.
UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW OTHER BUSINESSES THERE THAT WOULD HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE HAIR PLACE MM-HMM
WHO JUST EXPANDED AND PUT IN A MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO GET OUR HAIR DONE, THAT USUALLY TAKES TWO TO THREE HOURS.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH AN HOUR LIMIT.
AND ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK DOWNTOWN, UM, AND THEN THEY GO FROM STORE TO STORE TO SHOP.
SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE.
UM, I THINK IT'D BE INCONVENIENT
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IF THEY HAD TO RUN BACK TO THEIR CAR EVERY HOUR.SO THAT'S JUST A COUPLE THOUGHTS.
I THINK WE, I I GET THAT WE, I WOULDN'T SAY DO THAT EVERYWHERE, BUT IN, IN FRONT OF THESE SHOPS THAT RELY ON, UH, IN AND OUT, I THINK WE COULD GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF.
UM, I WOULDN'T DO IT IN FRONT OF THE WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG FOR Y'ALL TO GET YOUR HAIR? I'M SORRY.
BUT MOST OF THE GUYS HERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN AND OUT IN FIVE MINUTES.
IF THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE COMMON COURTESY AT A PARKING THAT PARKING LOT, THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, STEVE IN COMMON, COURTESY IN, IN THE PUBLIC REALM, UM, SOMETIMES IS, IS THERE AND IT IS AVAILABLE, BUT FOR THESE FOLKS, THEY HAVE A, UM, PROGRAM.
HE HAS 20, 30 CAR, 20, 30 PEOPLE COME IN CARS.
HE CAN'T BE OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC.
SO HE, HE CAN ONLY ASK THEM OR, OR THEY CAN ONLY ASK THEM, BUT THEY CAN'T MAKE 'EM.
SO WE HAVE TO EITHER, UH, ORDINANCE OR LEGISLATE SOME SOMETHING OR, OR NOT.
SO DO Y'ALL WISH TO OR, OR, UH, ORDINANCE SOME SORT OF TIME LIMITS IN FRONT OF SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND IF SO, WE CAN DIRECT THE STAFF TO GO, TO GO DOWN.
SO, AND ASK AND, UH, IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PARKING SPACES AND SPECIFIC TIMES.
UM, AND MAYOR, IF WE DO END UP ENTERTAINING THAT IDEA, UH, HOW WILL WE ENFORCE THAT? HOW DO WE ENFORCE ANY ORDINANCE, FELIX, BY THE, BY THE, BY THE POLICE, BY THE HAND OF THE LAW.
WE HAVE INSPECTORS, BUT, BUT DOES IT GO BY COMPLAINT? HEY, LOOK, THIS CAR'S HERE.
IT, IT'S EXPIRED COMING VIRTUALLY OTHER THAN TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS.
VIRTUALLY EVERY CODE COMPLAINT THE CITY GETS IS BY, YOU KNOW, BY COMPLAINT, RIGHT? SO SOMEBODY SEES SOME VIOLATION, UM, EITHER THE STAFF WILL SEE IT OR SOMEBODY WILL TURN IT IN.
YOU MAY TURN IT IN, I MAY TURN IT IN, RIGHT? I GO AROUND DOING TO WHAT? A COUPLE TELL A COUPLE OF CARS WILL DEFINITELY MAKE THEM CHANGE YOUR MIND.
WHAT'S THAT TOWING A FEW CARS WILL, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO BE HEAVY HANDED.
WE, UH, THESE, THESE FOLKS, A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE NOT AWARE THAT IT'S A PROBLEM.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOLD TO COME TO, UH, THIS BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, TRAINING OR COUNSELING AND THEY SEE A OPEN PARKING PLACE.
SO THEY PARK THERE, THEY DON'T THINK ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT, UM, I I, I KNOW I'VE BEEN ACCIDENTALLY TOWED.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TOWED OFF BEFORE IN PLACES THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE A NO TOWING SIGN AND THAT WAS A RIPOFF.
BUT ANYWAYS, UM, SO YOU GOT TO, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL.
BUT, SO I WANT TO ASK Y'ALL AS A COUNCIL, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
WHAT ABOUT PARKING ON FOURTH STREET AROUND THE PARK? INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE PARKING LOT, THEY, THE, IT'S THE SAME DISTANCE FOR THEM TO GO AROUND HOPE AROUND TO FOURTH STREET AROUND THE, UM, PARKING LOT WHERE THE WATER TOWER IS MM-HMM
NOT PARKING LOT, BUT PARKING, UM, PARKING SPACES WHERE THEY'RE NOT, THE CUSTOMERS IN FRONT OF OUR SHOPS WILL BE CARRYING PACKAGES WHERE THEY WOULDN'T AND THAT WOULD BE CLOSER FOR THEM WHERE THEY WOULDN'T BE WALKING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE THE RAILROAD AT.
IT'S THE SAME DISTANCE, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, WHEN YOU HAVE THE SIGN THEY CAN FIND ANYWHERE.
WE CAN'T SAY, DON'T PARK HERE, GO PARK AT FOURTH STREET.
WELL, NO, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A SUGGESTION.
Y'ALL COULD TALK TO HOPE AGAIN AND SUGGEST THAT INSTEAD OF PARKING, WALKING ALL THE WAY TO THE PARKING LOT OF JUST WALKING AROUND TO FOURTH STREET, NEAR THE TOWER TOWER.
WELL, WHEN THEY SEE THE SIGN THAT SAYS ONE HOUR PARKING, THEY'LL THEY'LL FIGURE IT.
I PROMISE YOU THEY'LL THEY'LL FIGURE IT.
BUT LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL IS OPEN TO, TO REGO IDENTIFYING SOME SPECIFIC SPACES IF IT CAME TO THAT.
THE STAFF COULD LET 'EM KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AVAILABLE, THAT'S AVAILABLE, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS TO DO.
DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA RESTRICT IT OR JUST LET IT GO? I, I WANT, I WANNA DO WHATEVER RESTRICTION WE CAN, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS.
CAN YOU PUSH YOUR, YOUR I DID INTERCOM.
ARE YOU OPEN TO RIGO IDENTIFYING SOME? YES.
GEORGE, ARE YOU OPEN TO RIGO IDENTIFYING SOME RELIEF FOR THESE FOLKS? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, STEVE, PERHAPS ANOTHER IDEA COULD BE, UM, A SIGN IN FRONT OF THE STOREFRONT SAYING PARKING ONLY FOR CUSTOMERS OF
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THIS BUSINESS.UM, I'VE SEEN THOSE IN OTHER CITIES.
IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, IN, IN THIS BUSINESS, IF IT'S NOT BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EFFECTIVE.
THERE'S EVEN STOP SIGNS WHEN THE CITY PUTS A STOP SIGN UP.
WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE.
DO YOU KNOW IF YOU GET A STOP, GET A TICKET FOR RUNNING A STOP SIGN? THAT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO EVERYTHING THE CITY DOES EVERY SIGN, IT ALL HAS TO BE ORDINANCE SOMEHOW.
STEVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? ANYTHING AB? ABSOLUTELY.
FELIX, YOUR DISTRICT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
YEAH, I I THINK WE SHOULD RESTRICT IT.
WELL, WE, WE WILL LOOK, WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT RIGO DO.
DO YOU WANT ME TO CONCENTRATE ON THIRD STREET OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE CARE OF THAT WHOLE BLOCK? I WOULD CONCENTRATE ON THIRD STREET FIRST.
THAT, THAT, UM, YEAH, FROM AVENUE H TO ADDRESS AVENUE H TO AVENUE F.
AND WHEN YOU GO THERE, LET THE MERCHANT KNOW WHAT WE'RE THINKING BECAUSE THE TANNING SALON AND THE BEAUTY SHOP, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT 30 MINUTE OR, OR, OR EVEN 60 MINUTE, BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T MIND TWO HOURS.
WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK THROUGH IT AND WE'LL COME BACK AND I'M SURE WE'LL END UP DEBATING IT BACK.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS ON THE TANNING SALON AND THE BEAUTY SHOPS, THEY DON'T, IF, IF IT'S FULL NOW THEY'RE NOT GETTING, UH, THEIR CUSTOMERS, THEY'RE PROBABLY PARKING TWO, THREE BLOCKS AWAY.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU GUESS? YES.
RICO, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE, UH, METERS? MICROPHONE? GEORGE, GEORGE, WHEN YOU TALK HERE, PLEASE PULL THE MIC UP CLOSE TO YOU.
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ARCHIVED.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT GO INTO METERS, MAYBE METERS? NO, NO, NO.
THE, THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL'S GIVEN ME JUST TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT, UH, SOME TIME LIMIT PARKING IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
GEORGE METERS WOULD HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL DECISION.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTERESTED IN CHARGING FOLKS.
ARE Y'ALL, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN IT, GEORGE? SURE.
RICHARD, YOU WANT METERS? I WHATEVER SOLVES THIS PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THIS.
ITS JUST A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JERKS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST TAKING UP ALL THE PARKING.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE NOT AWARE THAT IT'S A PROBLEM.
ARE YOU FOUR METERING IT? I I'M UNCLEAR.
RICHARD, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WORTH WHAT, WHAT DO THOSE THINGS COST? I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THEY'RE MINIMAL, BOB, BUT WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
WE DIDN'T DISCUSS WHAT THEY COST.
SCOTT, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN METERING? I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID METERING.
SO THAT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER IS METERING CHARGE CHARGING THE PUBLIC, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO PUT A LITTLE LIMITATIONS AND I THINK FOLKS WILL UNDERSTAND ONCE, IF, IF, IF WE GET IN, WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU PASS AN, UH, AN ORDINANCE FOR SOME SPECIFIC PLACES.
HOPEFULLY WORD WILL GET OUT AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, UH, THE CITY HAS TO DO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN FOLKS HATE TO SAY THIS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LEGISLATE A LITTLE CONSIDERATION BECAUSE FOLKS JUST WON'T, WON'T CONFORM AND COMPLY.
SO YEAH, I I THINK THOSE ON A FEW SPOTS THERE ON THIRD STREET, I DON'T THINK I WOULD, UH, LIMIT IT IN FRONT OF THE TANNING SALONS OR THE, WHAT'S THE MATTER WE'RE SEEING TRYING TO GET DIRECTION FROM THE ATTORNEY IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO THAT OR NOT.
WHAT'S THE MATTER? SELECTIVELY YOU CANNOT, YOU CAN'T SELECTIVELY ENFORCE, ARE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD WHEN I WAS TALKING
WELL, CAN WE SELECTIVELY LEGISLATE? IS IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE CAN'T DO? WELL THERE'S EQUAL PROTECTION.
SO IF THE TANNING SALON, THE TANNING SALON IS ON THE SAME FOOTING AS SHE IS, AS IS THE CHARITY, UHHUH,
SO IT'S GOTTA BE UNIFORMLY APPLIED.
NOW YOU CAN SAY IT'S FROM THIS POINT TO THIS POINT, FINE.
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AND NOT THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.GO DOWN THERE AND IDENTIFY SOMEPLACE THAT WE CAN GIVE FOLKS LIKE THIS SOME RELIEF.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO BE NEAR A SALON OR, UH, NO.
ARE YOU NEAR ANY PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO AND STAY LONGER THAN AN HOUR OTHER THAN SHOPPING? WELL, WE HAVE THE RESTAURANT ANOTHER TIME SODA FOUNTAIN CATTYCORNER FROM US.
THE, THAT THEY MAY STAY LONGER TO EAT.
I'M JUST, I WAS JUST HOPING THAT WE, WE, WELL WE GOTTA GIVE MORE TIME FOR THE RESTAURANT.
WE HAVE TO GIVE MORE TIME FOR THE RESTAURANTS.
I DON'T WANNA DETER PEOPLE FROM COMING DOWN, ESPECIALLY NEW CUSTOMERS ON WEEKENDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I JUST WANT TO SOLVE THE HOPE PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF TALKING TO WELL, WE'RE NOT, NOT MAGICIANS HERE.
I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT, THAT WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND WE CAN SEE MY SUGGESTION.
DO Y'ALL STILL HAVE THE DOWNTOWN ORGANIZATION? YES.
HAVE YOU WENT TO THEM AND ASKED THEM TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO US AS A GROUP? NO, WE, WE DISCUSSED IT, BUT WE DID NOT DISCUSS.
GO TO THEM AND TELL THEM THAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THEIR INPUT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT FOR IT AS A GROUP, I DON'T THINK THIS GROUP IS GONNA PASS ANYTHING.
OKAY, I'LL, I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.
AND THEN WHO, WHO'S HEADING UP THAT GROUP THIS YEAR? IT'S THE, UM, ART ALLIANCE.
SO WE MEET AT RENEE'S AT ANOTHER TIME.
AND, AND SEE, BECAUSE IF NOT, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, IT'S JUST IT.
I, OKAY, SO, AND I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO, AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THE COUNCIL WILL EVEN, UH, APPROVE IT.
BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN WE GET READY TO APPROVE THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE IN THE PAPER AND THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN THAT ARE CONCERNED THAT THIS RESTRICTION IS GONNA HURT THEIR BUSINESS, THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND THEN THIS GROUP IS GONNA FLIP.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WELL AFTER, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SO, IT'S, IT'S ONLY NATURAL BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT THE VIEW OF OTHERS.
WE HAVE A VIEW AND WE CAN INTEGRATE THAT VIEW.
BUT WE'RE IN THE END, NONE OF US HAVE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WHAT YOU'RE LIVING.
SO WE WILL TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, I PROMISE YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD TO TELL HER OR ASK HER? JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING SPEAKING SHERRY.
AND, UM, I WILL SPEAK WITH THE MERCHANTS AND GET BACK WITH Y'ALL.
WHO SHOULD I GET BACK WITH? UM, TO THE CITY MANAGER.
IN THE MEANTIME, REGO'S GONNA GO AND WHERE, WHERE'D HE GO? HE'S GONNA GO AND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE SPACES DOWNTOWN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF RELIEF.
YOU GET A CHANCE REGO TALK TO SOME OF THE MERCHANTS, SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
AND THERE'S STRENGTH IN GROUPS.
STRENGTH IN NUMBERS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO, ALRIGHT, WELL THANKS AGAIN AND THANKS FOR COMING TOO.
SHERRY, DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY? I LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY.
I DO LIVE IN ROSENBURG, BUT NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANKS FOR COMING.
[2. Presentation and discussion regarding the Fiscal Year 2026 Budget, the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget, and future budget considerations. (Luis Garza, Executive Director of Administrative Services) ]
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM.PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION, UH, REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2027.
BUDGET AND FUTURE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS.
THANK YOU LEWIS FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO ALLOW CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW A PRESENTATION ON THE STATUS OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET AND TO LOOK AHEAD TO THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET AND FOR FUTURE BUDGET YEARS.
THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET REFLECTS, HANG ON A SECOND, LEWIS, I GOTTA SAY SOMETHING.
I GOTTA STEP OUTTA THE MEETING JUST FOR A SECOND.
RICHARD WILL BE IN CHARGE TO RUN THE MEETING UNTIL I GET BACK.
SO THE, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET REFLECTS FLAT SALES, TAX REVENUES AND MINIMAL GROWTH IN OTHER REVENUE SOURCES TO CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR.
20 26, 1 $0.5 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT.
THE ONLY VIABLE OPTION IS TO RELY ON POTENTIAL SAVINGS WITHIN DEPARTMENTAL EXPENDITURES AS NO ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES ARE ANTICIPATED TO OFFSET THE SHORTFALL DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR.
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES SHOW A DECLINE IN TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUES.
WHILE SALES TAX REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO MAIN REMAIN FLAT.
AT THE SAME TIME THE CITY IS FACING A RISING COSTS DRIVEN BY INFLATION.
INCREASED SERVICE DEMANDS THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES WITH COMPETITIVE SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
THE CITY MUST ALSO PROPERLY FUND LAST YEAR'S $1.5 MILLION DEFICIT WITHOUT RELYING AGAIN ON FUND BALANCE FOR OPERATING EXPENDITURES.
THESE FACTORS WILL REQUIRE CAREFUL AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE
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LEVELS.FUTURE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDE MAINTAINING AN ADEQUATE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO SUPPORT A GROWING COMMUNITY AND ENSURING SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
THIS WILL INVOLVE EVALUATING CURRENT FEES, PROPOSING POTENTIAL INCREASES, AND CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO SUSTAIN CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT ALSO REQUIRES PREPARING FOR UPCOMING MANDATES, INCLUDING THE TRANSITION OF FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING ALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND FREEWAY LIGHTING ONCE THE CITY REACHES A POPULATION OF 50,000, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE 2030 CENSUS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY MUST IDENTIFY NEW FUNDING SOURCES FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY THE PRIOR SUPPORT PROVIDED BY THE RDC, WHICH IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
THIS INCLUDES SECURING AN ESTIMATED $16 MILLION IN MATCHING FUNDS FOR APPROVED FOR BEND COUNTY MOBILITY PROJECTS, SUCH AS EXPANSION OF SPOT ROAD J MEYER ROAD AND CUMMINS ROAD.
I WILL GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF TOUCHES ON THESE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
SO AGAIN, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET UPDATE, FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET AND A TAX RATE HISTORY, SOME PRELIMINARY CERTIFIED TAXABLE VALUES, MID-RANGE FINANCIAL PLANNING, AND SOME DISCUSSION AND INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL.
A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE DAIS, UM, FOR Y'ALL, IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SO JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 26, UH, BUDGET UPDATE.
UM, TODAY WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, UH, IN SPECIFIC TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BACKSTORY ON THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26 ADOPTED BUDGET.
IT WAS ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025.
UH, CITY COUNCIL DECREASED A TAX RATE BY TWO PENNIES.
UH, THE BUDGET INCLUDES 42.2 MILLION IN REOCCURRING REVENUE AND THEN 43.7 IN RECURRING EXPENDITURES TO BALANCE.
THE FISCAL YEAR 26 TO BALANCE, UM, THE REVENUES WITH THE EXPENDITURES, WE ARE DRAWING 1.5 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
HAVE Y'ALL HAD TO GET INTO THAT MONEY YET SO FAR OR WE'RE NOT THERE YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR, WE'RE, WE'RE AT 75% OF THE BUDGET, SO WE WILL KNOW MORE.
UH, I DO HAVE A SLIDE, UM, THERE THAT KIND OF SHOWS SOME.
OKAY, WELL LET'S THINK POSITIVE THAT BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 30TH WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A WINDFALL.
AND THEN JUST KIND OF IT COULD HAPPEN.
AND JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE LAST BULLET POINT, THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE OVERALL OVERALL TAX BILL IS, UH, 21% OF YOUR OVERALL TAX BILL.
WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THE REVENUE, UH, MAKE OF THE GENERAL FUND LOOKS LIKE OF THE 42.2 50% OF THE OVERALL REVENUES IS, UH, FROM SALES TAX.
AND THE SECOND LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE IS FROM PROPERTY TAXES AT 21%.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
SO JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE, UM, ON THE TWO LARGEST SOURCES OF REVENUE OF SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX, THE SALES TAX IS RELATIVELY FLAT COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS.
IT'S CURRENTLY AT 76% OF BUDGET THROUGH JUNE.
UH, THE YEAR OVER OVER YEAR PAYMENTS ARE, UM, SHORT 2.5%.
WE'RE NOT PROJECTING ANY INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.
AND THE SALES TAX IS THE MOST VOLATILE SOURCE OF REVENUE AS IT'S BASED ON THE MARKET.
AND JUST TO NOTE, UM, 25% OF THE OVERALL TAX COLLECTIONS ARE FROM ONE SINGLE TAXPAYER.
YOU MEAN THE AD VALOREM TAX? THIS IS THE SALES TAX.
AND THAT'S THAT COMPANY WE JUST RENEGOTIATED THE, UM, THE AGREEMENT.
IT WILL HAVE TO BE REVISITED WITH THE CREATION OF THE CCPD BECAUSE THE RDC WILL HAVE DECREASED.
IS THAT LOCKED IN? DOES THAT HAVE TO BE RENEWED THIS YEAR AGAIN? NO.
UM, ABOUT EARLIER THIS YEAR WE RENEWED IT FOR 10 YEARS.
UM, BUT THAT CONTRACT IS AFFECTED BY THE CREATION OF THE CCPD, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REVISIT THAT BECAUSE THAT AGREEMENT, UM, GUARANTEES THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SALES TAX, WHICH IS, UM, A PORTION OF 1 CENT OF CITY TAX AND IT WAS A HALF A CENT OF RDC TAX.
BUT NOW THAT RDC ONLY GETS A QUARTER, UM, THAT'S GONNA REDUCE WHAT GOES BACK TO THEM BASED ON THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.
AND WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH
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THEM TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.BECAUSE AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED, UM, CCPD CANNOT REIMBURSE ANY OF THEIR SALES TAX.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE PROPERTY TAX, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 97% OF THE BUDGET, WHICH IS EXPECTED FOR COLLECTIONS THROUGH MAY.
THE PROPERTY TAX IS THE ONLY STABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE.
UM, ANY CHANGES TO PROPERTY TAX REVENUES DIRECTLY IMPACT GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS.
AND LOOKING AT THE PIE CHART IN, IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR POLICE FIRE MAKES UP 57% OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOLLOWED BY GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND IN PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO MAYOR AS WE GO BACK, GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.
SO SCOTT AND EVERYBODY LOOK AT THAT PIE.
I GUESS THEY CALL THOSE THE PIES.
SO 57% OF THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET.
DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
DID I GET THE RIGHT CLASSIFICATION? OKAY.
SO 57% IN CASE FOLKS ASK AND THEY DO, IT'S FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO THAT'S GONNA MEAN MOSTLY POLICE AND FIRE, CORRECT? YEAH.
WHAT ELSE IS, UH, WELL THE ANIMAL SHELTER ANIMAL IS THAT PART? MARSHALL IS ALL PART OF FIRE MARSHAL.
HOW ABOUT, UM, WELL, THE HEALTH INSPECTORS, NO, THE HEALTH INSPECTORS ACTUALLY UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE WHAT? COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE NOT.
WELL I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY.
YOU, YOU WISH YOU HAD SOME PUBLIC SAFETY
BUT ANYWAY, OKAY, SO ANYWAY, 57% AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL Y'ALL AREN'T SPENDING ENOUGH ON POLICE OR FIRES.
TELL 'EM WELL, 50, 57%, 57 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S IN THE, IN, UH, IN THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO AND ANIMAL SERVICE.
WELL, AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NEARLY 80% OF THAT IS PERSONNEL RELATED.
WHICH KIND OF BRINGS US TO THIS NEXT SLIDE.
SO EARLIER, MARY, YOU MENTIONED SOME POTENTIAL SAVINGS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS.
UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT PERSONNEL AND BENEFITS, UM, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR 77% OF THE BUDGET WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE AROUND 400,000, UM, IN SAVINGS THERE FROM THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, PUBLIC SAFETY, 195,000, GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND SO ON.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS ANOTHER 400,000.
UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE EARLY NUMBERS.
SO AS WE CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, THESE NUMBERS MAY DECREASE.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A, A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE ON WHERE WE MAY END THE YEAR, UM, WITH, UH, POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FORECASTING FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS FOR THE 27 BUDGET AND BEYOND, UM, THE FIRST THING TO LOOK AT IS FUTURE REVENUE CHANGES, UH, WITH ADOPTION OF THE LOWER TAX RATE IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND USING A 1.5 MILLION FOR FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THE REOCCURRING EXPENDITURES.
STAFF IS BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET WITH A $1.5 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT.
SO WE'LL NEED TO FIND 1.5 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES, UH, TO BALANCE CURRENT EXPENDITURES WITHOUT INCLUDING ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, REOCCURRING EXPENDITURES SUCH AS NEW POSITIONS, SALARY INCREASES OR HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES, UH, INFLATION AND SO ON.
WELL, WE WON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE TILL WE GET CLOSE TO CLOSER.
PROBABLY WITHIN 60 OR 90 DAYS OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
WELL, THIS IS JUST STARTING OFF THE YEAR WE'RE AT 1.5 BECAUSE WE WE'RE STARTING THE YEAR WITH A NEGATIVE 1.5 MILLION WITH A DECREASE IN THE USE OF FUND BALANCE FROM LAST FISCAL, FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
WELL, I FIND THAT AS AN ARBITRARY AMOUNT.
NO, WHAT WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO IS IF WE TAKE OUR CURRENT REVENUES AND OUR CURRENT EXPENSES, WHICH IS WHAT WE NORMALLY DO TO START NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE STARTING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET 1.5 IN THE HOLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THIS BUDGET IS.
SO, BUT, BUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T CONCLUDED THIS BUDGET.
YEAH, BUT THE CURRENT, YEAH, AND WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY CLARIFIED THAT, UM, WE MAY SAVE ABOUT 800,000, SO WE MAY MAKE UP SOME OF THAT MONEY IN FISCAL YEAR 26 THE CURRENT YEAR.
BUT WHEN WE START WORKING ON NEXT
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YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH 1.5 MILLION MORE EXPENDITURES IN REVENUE.SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT UP IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET BEFORE WE START ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS.
THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT REDUCING THE, THE YEAH, THAT'S EXPENDITURES.
UM, LEWIS IS GONNA GO OVER SOME OPTIONS HERE AND, AND SO I DON'T COMPLETELY CONCUR WITH THE NARRATIVE THAT WE'RE GONNA START OUT IN THE HOLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA AVOID.
WELL WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE FROM THE BEGINNING.
BEFORE WE ADD ANY ADDITIONAL EXPENSES.
PLUS WE'VE NOT GOTTEN THE FIGURES YET FROM THE COUNTY.
BUT THOSE, THOSE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND TAX RATE SETTING DAY, WHICH IS USUALLY EARLY SEPTEMBER.
SO WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SUMMERTIME PEOPLE GO TO THE STORE, THEY SPEND THIS 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A SPENDING SUMMER.
SO JUST SOME SOURCES OF REVENUES THAT THE CITY CANNOT REGULATE ARE THE SALES TAX.
AND I KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE.
UM, SALES TAX DEPENDENT ON THE, ON THE MARKET, FRANCHISE FEES, COURTS FINES AND FEES AND INTEREST EARNINGS ALSO AREN'T REALLY REGULATED BY THE CITY.
THE FRANCHISE TAXES ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE STATUTE AND IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE CITIZENS USING THOSE, UH, THE CABLE TELEPHONE AND MIXED BEVERAGE.
AND THE COURTS FINES AND FEES, THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE RESTRICTED BY STATE LAW.
UM, BUT THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON THE CITATION ACTIVITY BY THE, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN INTEREST EARNINGS ARE ALL DEPENDENT ON MARKET RATES.
SO LET ME CLARIFY, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THIS STUFF TO SCOTT.
SO LIKE IN THE CAMPAIGN WE HAD FOLKS, UH, EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SPEEDERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS GET THOSE COMMENTS AND, AND IF IT'S UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A COLLECTIVE STREET OR, OR A A THOROUGHFARE, THE CITY DOES NOT PUT SPEED HUMPS ON THOSE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T STOP MOBI, WE DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN MOBILITY.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET TO POINT TO A, THEY GOTTA GET TO SCHOOL, THEY GOTTA GET TO CHURCH, THEY GOTTA GET TO WORK.
UH, NOW WE WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO BE RESPECTFUL.
BUT, SO WE AS A POLICY, FOR EXAMPLE, ULMAN STREET STREET YOU LIVE ON, THAT'S A COLLECTOR STREET.
A STREET IS A COLLECTOR STREET.
WE HAD REQUESTS YESTERDAY FOR SPEED HUMPS, UH, UH, ON A STREET AND RIGO CHECKED IT OUT.
A STREET IS IS AT YOUR DISTRICT BY THE WAY.
AND, AND A STREET IS DESIGNATED AS A COLLECTOR STREET.
SO WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON ABOUT A STREET.
WHAT DO, WHY DON'T Y'ALL PUT SPEED HUMPS HERE? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S A COLLECTOR STREET, BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO LIKE RADAR SIGNS AND HE CHANGED THE SLIDE ON ME.
BUT, UM, THOSE TRAFFIC FINES CAN PAY FOR RADAR SIGNS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THE GENERAL FUND IS WHERE WE GET WHERE WE PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE, THE PERSONNEL SERVICES AND ALSO WHERE WE GET OUR TAX RELIEF.
BUT THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE RESTRICTED LIKE THE, THE, UH, MUNICIPAL COURT FUND.
AND, AND WE, WE CAN GET THINGS LIKE SPEED HUMPS, RADAR SIGNS, SOME OF THOSE ARE MAYBE STOP SIGNS.
THE ONES THE COURT ARE TYPICALLY FROM THE, WHAT'S THAT SCHOOL ZONES? THE ONES FROM COURT ARE TYPICALLY ANY SAFETY FOR THE SCHOOL ZONES.
BUT ANYWHERE ELSE WOULD BE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
WOULD, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WOULDN'T SPEED HUMPS QUALIFY FOR THAT? IF IT'S IN A SCHOOL ZONE? ONLY IF IT'S IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY SPEED HUMPS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.
SO YEAH, THE, THE, THE SPECIAL FUNDS CAN ONLY BE USED IN A SCHOOL ZONE OR POSSIBLY NEAR A PARK.
BUT MAJORITY OF SPEED HUMPS AND ALL THAT IS PAID FOR OUT THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IT DEPENDS WHERE IT'S, I'M SORRY, LEWIS.
SO JUST THIS NEXT SLIDE, THE SALES TAX HISTORY.
UM, JUST PUT THIS FOR THE LAST 10 FISCAL YEARS, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE FAR LEFT, UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 2017, WE HAD 9.5 MILLION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT INCREMENTALLY INCREASING THROUGH 2022.
UH, BUT AFTER THAT IT HAS REMAINED FLAT THE LAST, UH, TWO OR THREE FISCAL YEARS.
UM, IS INTERNET LIKE AMAZON, DOES
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THE CITY COLLECTS ANY REVENUE FROM SALES TAX FROM AMAZON? WE DO.I THINK IT, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES FOR SALES TAX ON WHERE IT WAS THE ORDER WAS PLACED AND WHERE THE ORDER WAS FULFILLED.
BUT WE DO GET SOME MONEY FROM AMAZON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL, I GUESS SOMEBODY COLLECTS IT SOMEWHERE.
BUT, SO CONTINUING ON THE FUTURE, REVENUE CHANGES.
THESE REVENUE SOURCES, UH, ARE REGULATED BY THE CITY.
SO LICENSES AND PERMITS, CHARGES FOR CHARGES FOR SERVICES, THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FEES, UM, THEY CAN HELP OFFSET THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE AND THEY MAY ALSO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUES.
AND WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS, UH, SOME OF THESE OPTIONS.
THE NEXT REVENUE SOURCE THAT IS REGULATED BY THE CITY AND THE CITY CAN CONTROL IS A PROPERTY TAX.
THIS IS THE MOST STABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE.
UH, WE HAVE A NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH THAT'S THE RATE THAT'S NEEDED TO BRING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THE SAME PROPERTIES THAT EXISTED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER HIGHER NO NEW REVENUE RATE DUE TO CHANGES IN VALUATIONS FOR PROTESTS.
AND THEN ALSO THE NEW HOSPITAL NINE, UH, THAT TOOK EFFECT IN 2026, UH, WHICH INCREASED THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, UH, EXEMPTION.
AND, UH, WE'LL SEE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT IN A LATE LATER SLIDE.
A TAX RATE INCREASE WOULD BE NEEDED TO CLOSE A GAP FROM FUNDING, OPERATING EXPENDITURES FROM FUND BALANCE.
AND THEN ALSO, AGAIN, IN REGARDS TO PROPERTY TAX.
REDUCING THE TAX RATE WOULD ELIMINATE NEW REVENUE, UH, THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED FROM THE NEW PROPERTY TAX VALUES ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL PROPERTY TAX RATE HISTORY, AGAIN, THIS IS THE LAST 10 YEARS FROM, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2017.
WE WERE AT 47 CENTS FOR EVERY A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND WE'VE DECREASED THAT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, UH, TO THE CURRENT TAX RATE OF 30 CENTS.
AND GOING BEYOND 2017, THE TAX RATE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IT WAS 51 CENTS AND NOW IT'S 30 CENTS VIRTUALLY UNHEARD OF IN THE, IN THE MUNICIPALITY IN THE HOUSTON AREA OUR SIZE.
SO THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF THAT.
YEAH, IF YOU'RE INTO TAX RELIEF.
IF YOU'RE NOT AND YOU CAN BE SAD ABOUT IT.
YEAH, I THINK THE MAJORITY HERE ARE PROBABLY PROUD OF IT.
IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE ALSO HAD THE LUXURY OF INCREASED SALES TAX TO KIND OF HELP OFFSET THE DECREASE IN TAX IN PROPERTY TAXES.
BUT WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FLAT.
WELL, BUT LEWIS, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SALES TAX SLIDE, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO, SALES TAX ONLY GENERATED LESS THAN $10 MILLION.
WE ONLY GENERATED $21,250,000.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THOUGH, FROM 2022 TILL 2026, WHEN THE SALES TAX IS FLAT, THE CITY HAS GROWN, THE POPULATION HAS GROWN THE DEMANDS, THE NEEDS HAVE GROWN AND THE SALES TAX HASN'T KEPT UP WITH THAT GROWTH.
UM, AND CUTTING THE PROPERTY TAX HAS, HAS DIPPED INTO WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO SUSTAIN A GROWING COMMUNITY.
AND, AND LEWIS WILL HIT ON SOME MORE OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT'S GROWN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS THE, IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IS REALLY SHOT UP SINCE COVID, THE COST OF INSURANCE, THE COST OF PERSONNEL, THE COST, UH, THE COST OF WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT IS A WAGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S I THINK PROBABLY THE MARKET HAS BECOME THE BIGGEST EXPENSE.
THE MARKET HAS BECOME EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE TO GET EMPLOYEES AND GET GOOD EMPLOYEES AND TO KEEP THEM.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE CHASE MONEY AND THEY'LL QUIT FOR A DOLLAR MORE AN HOUR OR WHATEVER.
SO NOW MAYOR, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE MARKET TRENDS AND PRELIMINARY VALUATIONS.
UH, THIS IS A PRESENTATION, THIS VERBIAGE IS STRAIGHT FROM THE FORT BEND CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THEIR WEBSITE.
SO THE MARKET HAS STARTED TO STABILIZE AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF APPRECIATION, UH, IN REAL ESTATE VALUE.
UM, THE VALUES HAVE STARTED TO STABILIZE AND RETURN TO A MORE NORMAL PRE PANDEMIC, UH, GROWTH PATTERNS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO HIGHER INTEREST RATES AND THEY INCREASED HOUSING INVENTORY, IT'S SLOWED DOWN THE PRICE GROWTH AND REDUCED THE UPWARD PRESSURE ON VALUATIONS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL TRENDS, THE HOUSING INVENTORY HAS INCREASED GIVING BUYERS MORE OPTIONS.
IT'S SLOWING OVERALL PRICE APPRECIATION AND THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL SALES PRICES ARE FLATTENING COMPARED TO PRIOR YEARS.
LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL TRENDS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL VALUES CONTINUE TO GROW MODESTLY, WHICH IS
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LARGELY DRIVEN BY NEW CONSTRUCTION AND CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.UH, AGAIN, THIS PRESENTATION IS FORT BEND COUNTY AS A WHOLE, NOT SPECIFIC TO ROSENBERG.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PRELIMINARY CERTIFIED ESTIMATE, UH, FROM THE CHIEF APPRAISER, UH, THIS WAS DONE ON APRIL OF 2026.
WE HAD, UH, 21,661 PROPERTIES.
THE MARKET VALUE IS 7.8 BILLION.
THE ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS 6.4 BILLION, THE NET TAXABLE VALUE AFTER THE EXEMPTIONS IS 5.5 BILLION.
THEY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE NEW LAW FOR HOUSE BILL NINE, WHICH, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY ACCOUNTS, WHICH IS ALMOST 3000 ACCOUNTS.
AND FOR THE ESTIMATED LOSS TO OUR TAXABLE VALUES, 115 MILLION.
AND THEN THEIR SUGGESTED REDUCTION AMOUNT BASED ON PROTESTS, UH, COURT DECISION IS 780 MILLION.
OUR CERTIFIED ESTIMATE IS 4.78 BILLION.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CHART ON THE FAR LEFT IS A TAX YEAR.
THE NEXT COLUMN TO THE RIGHT IS A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US EVERY YEAR IN APRIL.
AND THEN THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS A CERTIFIED, WHICH THAT'S DONE ON JULY 25TH OF EVERY YEAR.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT FROM 2021 THROUGH 2025, MOST OF THOSE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO THE CERTIFIED VALUES.
UM, WITH THE LAST YEAR OF 2025 FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, THERE BEING AN INCREASE OF 3.93%.
MORE IMPORTANT, IMPORTANTLY IS THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THE TAXABLE GROWTH, YOU COULD SEE A DECREASING, IT WENT FROM 15% INCREASE DOWN TO 13, DOWN TO 11 AND THEN DOWN TO 6%.
SO THE CERTIFIED TAXABLE VALUES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2026 WAS 4.8 BILLION.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM NUMBER, WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE INCREASE IN THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION THAT WAS JUST PASSED, WE'RE REDUCING THAT AMOUNT BY 36 MILLION.
AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT ALSO HAD $60 MILLION FOR, UH, A PROPERTY THAT WAS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WE HAD TO REDUCE THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT TAXABLE.
SO THE, THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE IS 4.7 BILLION COMPARED TO THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.
4.8 CURRENT YEAR'S ESTIMATE OF 4.8 BILLION.
SO THAT'S A DECREASE IN THE, IN THE OVERALL TAXABLE PROPERTY.
WE WILL GET CERTIFIED NUMBERS ON JULY 25TH, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
FUTURE OPERATING EXPENDITURES, PERSONNEL COSTS, THAT'S AN AVERAGE INCREASE OF 3.5%.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT DOING SALARY INCREASES TO EMPLOYEES, UM, OF 2.5%, THE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND IS ADDING 725,000.
AND AGAIN, EVERY YEAR WE'VE HAD HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES.
UM, WE'RE GETTING A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF 15% INCREASE.
UM, THIS 10% FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND AND 5% FROM THE INSURANCE FUND, THE IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND WILL BE 380,000.
SO THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S NOT ADDING ANY NEW PERSONNEL STAFF.
WHEN WE LOOK AT INFLATION OPERATIONAL COSTS, THAT'S INCREASING ON AN AVERAGE OF 2% FOR LIABILITY INSURANCE, FUEL SUPPLIES, CONTRACTED SERVICES AND OPERATING, UH, MATERIALS.
ALSO FUTURE CAPITAL AND STATE MANDATED EXPENDITURES.
THE CAPITAL PROJECT INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, UH, WE WILL NEED 16 MILLION FOR COUNTY MOBILITY PROJECTS FOR SPOT CHECK ROAD J MEYER AND CUMMINS ROAD.
AND CUMMINS ROAD IS IN THE CITY LIMIT.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE LINE I THINK, I THINK A PORTION OF IT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WELL, A PORTION OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF A PORTION OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE, THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S ON THE LINE
SO IT'S STILL IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE, THE ROAD, THAT PORTION, THERE'S A PORTION OF THE ROAD THAT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY THE, THE, THE, THE NEW, WHEN THEY CROSS THE NEW CUMMINS ROAD, THAT WILL CROSS 7 23 AND GO TO BAKER ROAD.
THAT IS THE COUNTY MOBILITY PROJECT.
OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE.
THAT BY THE WAY, IS DISTRICT ONE.
AND THOSE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, FELIX, OVER THERE OFF BAKER ROAD.
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UM, SO, AND I THINK THEY'RE HAPPY FOR THAT ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF BAKER ROAD 'CAUSE THAT BRIDGE IS RIGHT THERE AND IT'S, AND IT'S BLOCKED BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING TRAFFIC.SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS THE WAY IT IS NOW.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE STATE MANDATED, UH, EXPENDITURES.
UH, THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS OPERATIONS WOULD TRANSITION TO THE CITY ONCE THE POPULATION REACHES 50,000, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE 2030 CENSUS.
SO WE'LL NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THIS HERE PRETTY SOON ON TAKING ON THOSE EXPENDITURES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT MID-RANGE FINANCIAL PLANNING, UM, ON THE FAR LEFT IS THE FISCAL YEAR 25.
WE'LL HAVE THE IN GREEN, YOU SEE THE TOTAL REVENUES IN MILLIONS.
AND THEN IN THE ORANGE REDDISH COLOR IS THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES.
SO THE FISCAL YEAR 25, WE ADDED CLOSE TO 3 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
THE 26 BUDGET WE'RE USING 1.5 MILLION, THE 43.7 IN EXPENDITURES, AND 42.2 IN REVENUES.
WE ARE LOOKING TO CLOSE THAT GAP IN FISCAL YEAR 26 WITH DEPARTMENTAL SAVINGS.
BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR 27, WE HAVE 46.1 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES AND 42 POINT A HALF IN IN REVENUES.
THE 46 POINT 10 DOES INCLUDE, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO, UM, ADD, SUCH AS THE INCREASES THE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES AND NEW EMPLOYEES.
UH, BUT THAT DOES CREATE A $3.6 MILLION GAP FROM THE REVENUES NOT KEEPING UP IN PACE WITH THE EXPENDITURES.
YOU'LL ALSO NOTATE THE LAST TWO COLUMNS.
THE EXPENDITURES FAR EXCEED THE REVENUES, SO WE'LL NEED TO, AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2029, THE FUND VIOLENCE WOULD FALL TO EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION, WHICH IS BELOW WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, AS A GENERAL FUND, 25% BENCHMARK
SO ALL THAT TO SAY STAFF HAS PREPARED DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
SO TO GIVE US, TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON PREPARING THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET.
SCENARIO NUMBER ONE WAS IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PROPERTY TAX RATE UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.
THIS IS DUE TO THE FLAT TAXABLE VALUES AND THE FLAT SALE TAX COLLECTIONS.
UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER A PROPERTY TAX RATE UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, UH, THAT COULD PROVIDE SUFFICIENT REOCCURRING REVENUE TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS AND ADDRESS THE CITY'S MOST PRESSING OPERATIONAL, PRESSING OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
UNDER STATE LAW, ANYTHING MORE THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND LESSEN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE.
BUT UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THE CITY COULD GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO CLOSE THE $1.5 MILLION GAP CARRIED OVER FROM FISCAL YEAR 26 FUND EMPLOYEE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE, PARTIALLY FUND THE PROJECTED 15% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS WITH THE CITY COVERING 10% AND THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND COVERING THE REMAINING 5%.
AND THEN ALSO ADD TWO, UH, POSITIONS NEEDED TO SUPPORT SERVICE DELIVERY AND THE WORKLOAD DEMANDS.
SCENARIO TWO WOULD CONSIDER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE UNDER THIS SCENARIO, COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH IS THE RATE THAT GENERATES THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AS THE PRIOR YEAR, EXCLUDING ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION DUE TO THE FLUCTUATIONS IN TAXABLE VALUES.
AND NO NEW REVENUE RATE MAY BE HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT RATE, BUT UNDER STATE LAW, IT'S CONSIDERED IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM EXISTING PROPERTIES.
ONLY THOSE NEW PROPERTIES ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL.
IF COUNCIL WERE TO LOOK AT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THE CITY COULD GENERATE REOCCURRING REVENUES TO POTENTIALLY SUPPORT A SALARY INCREASE OR ADDRESS A PORTION OF THE $1.5 MILLION GAP, BUT NOT BOTH.
AND IT WOULD MAINTAIN THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS WITHOUT REDUCTIONS TO PROGRAMS OR OPERATIONS.
AGAIN, THIS SCENARIO WOULD NOT FULLY ADDRESS THE $1.5 MILLION GAP.
IT WOULDN'T ADDRESS THE PROJECTED HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE, AND IT WOULD NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
AGAIN, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS NOT CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE.
LET'S NOTE THOUGH, LET'S NOTE THOUGH THAT THE CCP WILL ADD ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL FROM, FROM THAT, CORRECT? NOT, NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT YES.
NOT OUT OF THIS FUND, BUT FROM THE, FROM THAT, FROM THAT FUND.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE POLICE IN THIS CITY, RIGHT? AND AT LEAST TWO OF 'EM ARE GONNA
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BE ON MOTORCYCLES.AND THEN SCENARIO NUMBER THREE, UM, IF COUNSEL WERE GO WITH THE REDUCED PROPERTY TAX RATE, IF COUNSEL CHOOSES TO RE, TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, A REDUCTION OF 1 CENT ON THE TAX RATE WOULD DECREASE THE REVENUES BY F 470,000, WHICH WOULD ADD TO THE EXISTING $1.5 MILLION CARRIED FROM FISCAL YEAR 26.
UNDER THIS SCENARIO, CITY WOULD NEED TO RELY ON APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION OR MORE DEPENDENT ON THE NO NEW REVENUE CALCULATIONS IN FUND BALANCE TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT OPERATIONS BECAUSE FUND BALANCE IS AT ONE TIME RESOURCE, THIS APPROACH WOULD CREATE A REOCCURRING DEFICIT THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED IN FUTURE BUDGETS TO REMAIN STRUCTURALLY BALANCED AT THE REDUCED RATE, THE CITY WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY ADJUSTMENTS SUCH AS NO SALARY INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES, NO CITY CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS HEALTH INSURANCE, SHIFTING THE FULL COST TO EMPLOYEES, NO NEW POSITIONS TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH AND POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS IN SERVICES OR PROGRAMS PROVIDED TO RESIDENTS.
AND MARY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE ON, ON THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.
SO WE COULD SPECIFICALLY, WHAT KIND OF GUIDANCE BE SPECIFIC, LEWIS, YOU'VE DONE THIS ENOUGH.
WELL, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS LAID OUT FOR COUNSEL.
UM, IF WE WANNA DO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, CONSIDER A PROPERTY TAX UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE TO BRING IT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT SORT OF RATE WOULD THAT BE ON THE TAX RATE? WE GOT 30 CENTS RIGHT NOW.
WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? WHAT DOES THAT SCENARIO SUGGEST WOULD BE A RATE? THE RATE? I REALIZE IT'S PREMATURE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FIGURES FROM THE CAD, BUT IF IT DID, WHAT WOULD IT, WHAT WOULD IT SUGGEST? RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE A RATE ITSELF.
UM, BUT JUST LOOKING BACK AT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WAS 33 CENTS.
UM, SO THIS YEAR WHEN PLANNING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET WE'RE PROBABLY THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE 31 OR 32 CENTS.
AGAIN, BUT THE, THAT'S JUST A NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE HIGHEST RATE WE CAN GO TO WITHOUT TRIGGERING AN ELECTION.
BUT THAT WOULD BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO HELP OFFSET THAT $1.5 MILLION GAP FROM LAST YEAR.
HOW MUCH WITHOUT TRIGGERING AN ELECTION, WOULD WE, AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING I I'M FOR THIS, BUT JUST TELL ME AGAIN WHAT, WHAT RATE IT WOULD BE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE VOTERS FROM 30 TO WHAT, 31 AND A HALF, 32? WELL, SO 31 AND A HALF OR 32 CENTS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT WOULD BRING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE DUE TO THE PRI THE VALUATIONS, UH, CHANGES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT DUE TO PROTESTS, COURT LITIGATION.
THAT'S JUST THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THAT CAN BRING, UM, THAT RATE PLUS 3.5%.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE EITHER 34 OR 35 CENTS.
AND THAT'S A PRELIMINARY, WELL, WELL TELL US THE DIFFERENCE SCENARIO.
WELL, THOSE ARE THE THREE SCENARIOS.
WHAT WAS THE THIRD SCENARIO? SO THE THIRD, SO THE FIRST ONE IS TO GO UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH COULD, WHICH COULD BE 34, 30 5 CENTS THAT WOULD FUND ALL OF THE ITEMS HERE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE NEXT SCENARIO? THE NEXT SCENARIO IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH COULD BE 31 OR 32 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, WHAT'S THAT? WOULD JUST BRING IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THOSE SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
AND WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE? THE THIRD ONE WAS IF WE REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR EVERY PENNY, IT EQUATES TO 470 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET ON TOP OF THE 1.5 THAT WE'RE ALREADY STARTING.
SO WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE FUND BALANCE OR BE, AND THAT WOULD CREATE A REOCCURRING BUDGET DEFICIT EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT.
NOW, WE HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR, WE'RE ONLY GUESSTIMATE, THESE ARE GUESSTIMATES WE HAVEN'T PROVED YET, BUT I'VE MENTIONED IT TWO TIMES AT LEAST I RECALL NOW THAT WE ARE NOT INTO THE ACTUAL ONE AND A HALF MILLION YET, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AT THE END OF THE BUDGET.
IF WE, WHEN WE DO IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT'S A ONE-TIME SAVINGS TO THE, THE FUND BALANCE.
BUT IF YOU START THE YEARED, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AND SAME AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES.
ALRIGHT, SO SAY WE BUDGETED, LET ASK YOU THIS, WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW IT'S 23 MILLION.
ALRIGHT, SO IF WE DID THAT, THEN GO BACK TO THAT.
IF WE DID THIS OR RAISED THE RATE AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO THE ONE AND A HALF OR TWO.
SO, SO MAYOR, THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS THAT, THAT, UM, IF WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE REVENUES, WHICH IS GREEN, AND THE EXPENSES, WHICH IS RED, GET FURTHER AND FURTHER APART, AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO 2029, THE FUND BALANCE WOULD FALL BELOW THE 25% BENCHMARK AND IT WOULD BE ONLY AT 8 MILLION.
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SO, ALTHOUGH 23 MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, UM, EVERY TIME YOU DIP INTO IT A LITTLE MORE, IT CREATES A BIGGER PROBLEM THE FOLLOWING YEAR.AND, AND THIS IS THE CHART THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO SHOW TO Y'ALL.
UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FY 26 ADOPTED BUDGET, WE ADOPTED A BUDGET WHERE THE REVENUES WERE ONE AND A HALF MILLION BELOW THE EXPENSES.
THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS THE ESTIMATE SHOWS WE CAN CLOSE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT FOR LAST YEAR IF WE, IF WE SAVE ON OUR EXPENDITURE SIDE.
'CAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA BRING IN EXTRA REVENUE.
SO IF WE SAVE ON EXPENDITURES, WE CAN CLOSE THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT FOR LAST YEAR.
BUT WHEN WE GO INTO FY 27, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING WITH A $1.5 MILLION GAP, NOT INCLUDING ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO ADD.
WE KNOW OUR SALES TAX IS FLAT, ALL OF OUR OTHER FEES ARE FLAT.
AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DROP THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, THAT 1.5 MILLION WILL PROBABLY END UP BEING ABOUT 3 MILLION.
UNLESS IF WE CUT A BUNCH OF EXPENDITURES PROGRAMS OR SERVICES IN THE CITY.
I I JUST GOTTA TELL YOU EITHER I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHICH, WHICH IS VERY, VERY POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T AG AGREE WITH THE NARRATIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO, THAT THIS BUDGET AND THAT WE'RE GONNA START OUT IT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU START OUT OCTOBER 1ST, YOU HADN'T GOT TO THE END OF THE BUDGET.
OKAY? AND WE CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THIS TAX, SO I, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE NARRATIVE THAT WE WOULD ALREADY BE IF WE LEFT IT WITH, WITH, UH, WITH ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE.
WE WE'RE GONNA MAKE UP SOME OF IT IN THE FY 26 BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHEN WE START NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT BUDGET, WE START WITH 1.5 MILLION DEFICIT.
UM, WE MAY SAVE SOME MONEY AGAIN NEXT YEAR ON EXPENSES, BUT WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME.
AND, AND, AND IF THAT, IF THAT GAP KEEPS GROWING, LIKE THIS CHART SHOWS WE WILL BE OUT OF FUND BALANCE, WE CAN USE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2028 AND 2029.
ALRIGHT, LET ME LAY IT DOWN FOR THE COUNCIL HERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THESE ARE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AND WE, WE APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE INFORMATION HERE.
UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT IMPACTS, UH, CITY REVENUE WAS THIS NEW TAX, UH, EXEMPTION THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THAT GAVE BUSINESSES, UM, SOME, SOME TAX RELIEF.
SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO HERE, AND, AND SCOTT, THE REASON I MENTIONED THIS IS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE PLEDGES ALL IN OUR CAMPAIGNS FOR TAX RELIEF.
THE LEGISLATURE MADE SURE THAT WE GET IT.
THIS COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL, THERE'S 5,000 MUNICIPALITY.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M PICKING A NUMBER.
MUNICIPALITIES, AND THEY, THEY, UH, PASSED STATE LAW THAT SAYS THAT INVENTORY IT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUSINESS INVENTORY, YES.
BUSINESS PERSONAL HAS AN EXEMPTION OF, WHAT WAS IT, A HUNDRED, IT WAS 2,500 NOW TO 125,000.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, MY BUSINESS, UM, UH, I I I'M NOT, I'M GONNA END UP NOT PAYING ANY PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IN THE PAST IT WAS MINIMAL ANYWAY, BUT, BUT, UH, BUT NOW THAT'S MANDATED.
SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WE'RE GOING TO, BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO GET SOME TAX RELIEF.
UM, NUMBER TWO, WE JUST APPROVED TONIGHT A TAX EXEMPT, UH, THE, AN INCREASE IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
SO HOMEOWNERS FOR THE OVER 65 WILL GET FOR OVER 65.
UH, HOMEOWNERS OVER 65, WHICH DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU AND ME, NOT YET.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, THOSE FOLKS WILL GET SOME CITY TAX RELIEF.
UH, SO FOLKS ARE GONNA GET SOME EITHER WAY.
SO I THINK KIND OF OUT OF FAIRNESS TO THE STAFF, THEY WANT TO KNOW, OKAY? BEYOND THAT, WHEN THEY PUT THESE BUDGETS TOGETHER, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE BECAUSE THEY PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING HERE.
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AND, UM, THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO KNOW.NOW THAT BEING OUT OF FAIRNESS TO THEM AND OUT OF FAIRNESS TO US, I WANNA RESTATE SOME OF THE OBVIOUS.
SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE JOB, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STAFF TO PROPOSE A GOOD, FAIR BUDGET THAT TAKES CARE OF THE NEEDS AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PUBLIC AND, AND THE STAFF.
'CAUSE WITHOUT THE STAFF, IT, HOW WOULD THE CITY PROVIDE THESE SERVICES THAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS? SO THERE'S A BALANCE HERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO, UM, ALSO CONSIDER THE PLEDGES WE MADE.
SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS COMES IN.
SO THEY'RE ASKING US, NOT PRELIMINARILY, PRELIMINARILY, PRELIMINARILY, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THAT RIGHT, BUT Y'ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
UM, WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE LINE.
UH, I, I'M NOT JUST STUCK ON A, I I'M ALWAYS STUCK ON TAX RELIEF, BUT WE GOT TWO SOURCES OF IT.
ONE FROM THE STATE MANDATE MM-HMM
AND THEN WE GAVE AN EXEMPTION TONIGHT TO INCREASE.
SO I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE AN A, A FAIR CONCERN, UH, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A BROKEN RECORD HERE FOR YEARS.
SO I GET THAT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CUT THE TAX RATE THREE OR 4 CENTS.
NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE ANXIOUS ABOUT WHAT I AM GONNA SUGGEST.
I'M NOT GONNA SUGGEST ANY, ANY, ANY PARTICULAR NUMBER.
OKAY? I AM NOT GONNA SUGGEST A CENT.
I'M NOT GONNA SUGGEST NO CENT.
I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I PERSONALLY, AND I HOPE Y'ALL WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY INCREASE OF THAT RATE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO, TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT CONTROLLING AND IT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE WHEN YOU HAVE WARS THAT INCREASE GAS, THAT INCREASED OUR COST.
UM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE ARE, UH, STARTING TO STABILIZE AND GAS IS GOING DOWN.
SO, BUT NONETHELESS, WE'VE BEEN PAYING MORE FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS AND THAT'S NOT MONOPOLY MONEY.
SO IS IT OKAY, OR, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO POLL THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE WANT TO RAISE THAT RATE? I THINK WE CAN NIX THAT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T MIND ASKING THE COUNCIL.
I, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE COUNCIL AND, AND THEN IF, IF, WELL LET'S JUST SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL SAYS.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA START FIRST WITH MY CONSERVATIVE SIDEKICK RIGHT HERE.
RICHARD, DO YOU WANNA RAISE THE TAX RATE? I DO NOT WANNA RAISE IT.
I AND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING NO NEW REVENUE, THAT OPTION, IT'S UH, THAT, THAT'S TAKING IT UP 2 CENTS, CORRECT? THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT UP A PENNY OR TWO.
WE'RE NOT SURE YET TILL WE GET FINAL NUMBERS.
YEAH, I DON'T, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT, IT IS A NO NEW REVENUE, IT'S UH, I DON'T WANT TO GO UP AT ALL, GEORGE.
GEORGE, YOU WANNA RAISE TAXES? NO.
SCOTT, YOU WANNA RAISE TAXES? I DO NOT WANNA RAISE TAXES.
ALRIGHT, STEVE, YOU WANNA RAISE TAXES, FELIX? NO.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION? SO, YES, LET'S LOOK AT SCENARIO THREE, LEWIS.
SO IF, IF WE'RE NOT RAISING TAXES, I MEAN EVEN IF WE'RE LEAVING IT AT 30 CENTS, THAT'S GONNA BRING IN LESS REVENUE THAN LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE THE 1.5 MILLION DEFICIT TO START WITH.
WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER HALF MILLION TO THAT AT LEAST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RAISING AND WE HAVE TO RAISE TO REMAIN EQUAL ON PROPERTY TAXES.
SO THAT PUTS US AT A $2 MILLION DEFICIT BEFORE WE ADD ANY SALARY INCREASES, ANY CONTRIBUTION TOWARD HEALTH INSURANCE, ANY POSITIONS OR ANY THEREFORE, WE THEN NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT AREAS WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO SEE REDUCTIONS IN SERVICES BECAUSE, UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S, WE DEFINITELY DON'T RECOMMEND TAKING ANOTHER COUPLE MILLION OUT OF FUND BALANCE BECAUSE WE SHOW YOU ON THE CHART WHAT THAT WILL LEAD TO.
UM, SO IF WE'RE GONNA ADOPT A TAX RATE THAT BRINGS US IN NO ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND ALL THE OTHER REVENUES ARE FLAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON ALL THESE OPTIONS.
THERE'S NOT AN OPTION AS A HIRING FREEZE ON ANY OF THESE.
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WHY WOULDN'T WE CONSIDER THAT? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALREADY SO SHORT STAFFED IN SO MANY, MANY DEPARTMENTS IN SO MANY AREAS.UM, I I KNOW Y'ALL CALL ALL THE TIME ON ASKING ABOUT THIS BEING DONE AND THAT BEING DONE, AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY SHORT STAFFED.
SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO CUT POSITIONS OR HAVE A HIRING FREEZE, UM, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS AT A BARE MINIMUM, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
IDEALLY WE'D BE ASKING FOR 12 OR MORE POSITIONS THIS YEAR, BUT WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO THAT.
HOW MANY WERE YOU ASKING FOR NOW? I THINK THERE WERE SIX REQUESTS THAT CAME TO COUNCIL.
WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO FUND A COUPLE OF THOSE.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FUND ANY OF THOSE.
UM, WELL WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET POLICE.
SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE.
BUT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN NEED AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO LET US KNOW WHICH ONES NEED IT.
I THINK RICHARD MAKES A GREAT POINT.
MAY LOOK AT HIRING FREEZE, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENTS SPECIFICALLY, AND I KNOW YOU SUGGESTED THAT, BUT, BUT WE'RE GETTING, UH, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO TO TO BUDGET TIME, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRIORITIZE EVEN MORE.
I, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, A LOT OF THAT IS NOT GONNA BE FOR A RIGHT NOW DISCUSSION.
THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, GET THROUGH THE DE MORE OF THE DETAILS AND STUFF.
SO, AND I WOULD NOT, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ADD ANY NEW STAFF TO THIS BUDGET.
AND AS FAR AS OUR REQUESTS, WHEN PEOPLE CALL AND ASK AND WE TURN STUFF IN, WE DON'T NEED IT UNLESS IT'S JUNK IN THE ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, TRASH OR SOMETHING DANGEROUS IN THE ROAD.
UM, THESE MOWING REQUESTS, GRADING OF ALLEYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA DO IT THIS AFTERNOON, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON THE LIST.
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE FOR SOME TIME AND, AND I THINK, YEAH, AND I'M LEANING MORE TOWARD UM, PLAN REVIEWS, INSPECTIONS, UM, THINGS THAT ARE HOLDING PEOPLE UP BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON THE CITY AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO GET THAT DONELY.
NOW WE'VE ADDED INSPECTORS AND PLANNERS EVERY YEAR.
WE DO, BUT WE, SOME WEEKS WE CAN GET A HUNDRED, UM, HOUSING PLANS TO REVIEW.
AND THOSE ARE MOSTLY IN THE ETJ, RIGHT? NO, WE ONLY REVIEW ONES IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED, UM, WE HAVE A, A LOT IN, UH, THE ONLY NEW NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I KNOW OF IS THE ONE BEHIND THE CASE.
I'M SORRY, THERE'S TWO OR THREE ACTIVE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HELP.
NAME NO, NO NAME WITH SUBDIVISION.
THERE ARE TWO OR THREE ACTIVE SUBDIVISIONS STILL IN THE CITY LIMITS.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANY MORE OF THIS HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.
THIS COUNCIL IS AGAINST APARTMENTS.
SO I DON'T SEE, UH, BIG GROWTH POPULATION EXPLOSION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
WELL, I MEAN THERE'S ALSO ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL, YOU SEE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION ALL OVER TOWN.
I MEAN THAT REQUIRES EVEN MORE INSPECTIONS.
AND REVIEWS, MORE INVOLVEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, REVIEWS.
WE WANT THAT MORE, MORE CUSTOMERS, MORE WATER WORK.
IT GOES ON AND ON AND, AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE ASKING Y'ALL TO REALLY TELL US SPECIFICALLY THINGS TONIGHT, BUT IF WE DON'T GET A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK TONIGHT, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GIVE Y'ALL A PROPOSED BUDGET AT THE END OF JULY.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE INSPECTIONS MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
I KNOW AMANDA EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THE CITY'S OVERDO IT AND IT ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY BE ANOTHER ISSUE.
SO MY OPINION WOULD BE WE'RE UNDERDOING IT WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES WE FIND OUT THERE.
I'M NOT IN THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS, BUT JUST IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR INPUT TO HELP US.
AND, AND IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT, WE CAN WELL WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THE COUNCIL THAT WE SH I MEAN WE, WE KNOW WE DON'T WANNA RAISE THE RATE.
UM, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ASK THE COUNCIL IF WE WANNA LOOK AT A REDUCTION OF THE RATE.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND, AND, AND I, THE, THE, WITH ME, I MEAN THE JURY IS MOSTLY IN THAT I PROBABLY WILL ACCEPT A, A CONTINUED 30% TAX RATE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL END OF, END OF JUNE.
WE STILL GOT JULY, WE STILL GOT JULY SALES TAX, SUMMER SALES TAX.
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WE'RE GONNA BE HOPEFUL NOW TO KEEP IN MIND THESE PRICE, THESE GAS PRICES ARE GOING DOWN AND THAT MAY MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE.UM, WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANNA PULL THE COUNCIL ON? JUST IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, INPUT OUR COMMENTS.
LOUIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, NOTHING ELSE.
WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAVING A FEW MORE MEETINGS TO KIND OF DISCUSS.
I KNOW THIS IS IN VERY INVOLVED INTRICATE STUFF.
I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE MINDSET THAT YOU DO TO GET TO, TO GET INTO THE WEEDS HERE.
BUT LET'S ASK, UM, THE, THE COUNCIL HERE, UM, SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET AS, AS IT PERTAINS TO TAXATION AT THIS TIME? I MEAN, I JUST, I SEE THE EXPENSE, THE EXPENSES GOING UP, UM, AND NOT RELATIVE TO REVENUE GOING UP.
SO WHAT'S YOUR, TELL US WHAT YOUR ATTITUDE IS REGARD, GENERALLY SPEAKING REGARDING TAX RELIEF.
I MEAN, I'M FOR ALL KINDS OF TAX REDUCTIONS AND SMALLER GOVERNMENT.
UM, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE OPEN TO TAX? YES.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL 'CAUSE THAT'S A BROAD TERM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE.
AND WE, WE WILL GET TO THE DETAILS.
YEAH, I'M NOT WANTING TO JUMP IN AND START DOING CRAZY.
SO THAT'S, WE GOTTA BE REALLY, REALLY CAREFUL.
EVERYTHING HAS, UH, WHEN YOU GET, WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE EVERY OFFICE, EVERY POSITION IS HAS A LINE ITEM.
STEVE, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR ASK FELIX? NO, SIR.
KEEP YOUR, KEEP YOUR POSITION HERE.
UH, IT'S GOT LOUIS'S NAME, BUT DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO IT? RIGO? I'M GONNA READ IT TO, ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA SAVE LOUIS RIGO IS HE FIGURES LUCKY HIM.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO, TWO WAYS YOU CAN FUND THIS CITY HERE, FEES AND TAXES.
[3. Review and discuss proposed changes to the Schedule of Fees, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Luis Garza, Executive Director of Administrative Services) ]
TODAY WE'RE, NOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT FEES.WE DON'T LIKE FEES GENERALLY SPEAKING, LET ME JUST PREFACE THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT I AGREE WITH USER FEES.
I BELIEVE THE SERVICES PEOPLE USE SHOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE USING IT.
YEAH, WELL WE'RE GONNA GET INTO IT AND SEE WHAT RIGO IS SUGGESTING.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
SO STAFF HAS BEEN REVIEWING THE SCHEDULE FEES AND UM, WE WANNA MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL TO INCREASE SOME OF THE FEES IN SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS INSIDE YOUR PACKET.
WE ENDED UP INCLUDING, UM, UH, ALL THE SCHEDULE FEES AND, AND LOCATIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO.
BUT TONIGHT WE'RE ONLY GONNA GO OVER SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, UH, WHERE WE'RE, UM, UH, LOOKING TO TRY TO INCREASE SOME FEES.
AND THEN AT THE FOLLOWING WORKSHOP WE'LL END UP TRYING TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK SO THAT UH, WE CAN CONTINUE ON THE DISCUSSION.
YEAH, EXCUSE ME, RICO, BUT AT THE DAAS THERE WAS A, ABOUT A SIX PAGE SUMMARY OF THE FEES THAT, UM, HE IS GONNA GO OVER TONIGHT.
YOUR COUNSEL PACKET INCLUDES THE ENTIRE SCHEDULE OF FEES, BUT HE'S GONNA GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THEM.
AND AS PART OF THE SCHEDULE OF FEES AND, UH, NOT ONLY THAT BUT OUR, OUR ORDINANCES, UM, AND OUR ORDINANCE, WE HAVE CERTAIN LOCATIONS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THIS IS ALSO JUST TRYING TO CLEAN, CLEAN UP SOME OF THE ORDINANCES AND PUTTING, UH, THOSE FEES THAT ARE OUR ORDINANCES INTO OUR SCHEDULE FEES TO MAKE IT EASIER.
SO THE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL OF FEES.
AND UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, TO INCREASE SOME OF THESE FEES, UM, SUCH AS BOARDING FEES AND, UH, ONCE, UH, ANIMALS KEEP ON COMING BACK TO THE, TO THE POUND OR TO THE, TO THE SHELTER THAT ARE KIND OF REOCCURRING, UH, GUYS.
AND I SEE SOME OF 'EM ACTUALLY PROPOSED TO REDUCE SOME OF THE FEES AS WELL, CORRECT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA END UP TRYING TO REDUCE THOSE AND AT THE SAME TIME THOSE FEES CAN BE WAIVED, UH, BY DEPARTMENT HEADS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, INCREASE THE, THE DANGEROUS DOG REGISTRATION TO, TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS AS WELL.
LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS FOR, FOR THIS, UH, PAY SCHEDULE HERE.
ANYBODY? FELIX, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THESE? THESE ARE MINIMAL.
SO Y'ALL ARE INCREASING THE, UH, OWNER SURRENDER FEE FROM 25 TO 200? CORRECT.
DO WE GET A LOT OF SURRENDER? WE GET ABOUT WHAT? TWO OR THREE SURRENDERS THAT WE END UP ACCEPTING PER YEAR, PER MONTH? WELL, YOU'LL NEVER GET ANY MORE AFTER THIS.
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YEAH, WELL I GUESS THAT THAT'LL HELP PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, SURRENDERING THEIR, THEIR ANIMALS.I THINK IT'LL DETER PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO DUMP THEIR PETS TO US.
I THINK THAT THIS WILL END UP COVERING ALL THE MICROCHIPPING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPANIED, BUT WITH THAT, OKAY, I, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
WELL, I, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION ANOTHER TIME ON THE WHOLE SITUATION AT THE SHELTER AND OUR PROCESSES AND STUFF BECAUSE WE'RE BEING IN A WAY NEGLECTING THE, THE ANIMAL SERVICES.
WE DON'T DO MUCH ANIMAL SERVICE.
WELL, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO OMAR, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT 'CAUSE THEY WORKED THEIR BUTTS OFF, BUT THE SHELTER IS TURNED INTO A BOARDING KENNEL AS MUCH OF ANIMAL SERVICES.
WE GOT A LOT OF SPRAY ANIMALS OUT HERE AND WE, THAT'S BECAUSE SCOTT, WE HAVE A POLICY OF NO KILL, WHICH IS, DON'T PUT DOWN ANY OF THESE ANIMALS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT DOWN.
THE RESULT HAS BEEN THE SHELTER IS EXTREMELY OVERCROWDED AND THE BYPRODUCT OR THE EXTRA, UH, RESULT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF LOOSE, LOOSE DOGS, LOOSE CATS.
AND IT'S STARTING TO AFFECT, I THINK, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE GENERAL PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL, I THINK IS TO, TO HELP PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT TO HINDER IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER.
BUT ANYWAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE, UH, SCHEDULE FEES SUGGESTION HERE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ONE'S CONVENIENCE FEES.
AND THIS IS JUST TRYING TO SIMPLIFY THIS KIND OF A COMPLICATED CHART WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT FEES THAT WE END UP CHARGING FOR ELECTRONIC PAYMENT AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, A, A SIMPLE FEE THAT'S A 3% PLUS A TRANSACTION PASS THROUGH COST.
SO IT'S TRYING TO BE 3% PLUS WHATEVER THE PASS THROUGH COSTS.
AND JUST TO KEEP IT SIMPLE ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
DOES IT, UH, INCLUDE DEBIT CARDS? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
IF PEOPLE WRITE, WELL, NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WRITE CHECKS ANYMORE, BUT IF THEY PAY WITH A CHECK, IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT? NO.
HOW ABOUT IF THEY COME IN AND PAY IN CASH LIKE I DO? IS THERE A YOU CHARGE DOUBLE.
THAT, THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE ONLY TO YOU, MAYOR.
EVERYBODY ELSE PLAYS REGULAR THERE.
DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS ABOUT PAGE TWO? NO.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, THE PARKS, PAVILION AND ATHLETIC FIELDS.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE SOME OF THOSE RENTAL FEES FOR SOME OF OUR PAVILIONS IN OUR FIELD RENTALS.
WELL THAT'S HOW THAT TELLS YOU HOW LONG AGO IT'S BEEN SINCE I RENTED THE PAVILION.
ARE ARE WE SEEING A BIG INFLUX OF PEOPLE WANTING TO RENT THESE, UH, FACILITIES OR PAVILIONS? UH, I WANNA SAY OUR, OUR OUR PAVILIONS DO STAY, DO STAY BUSY RENTED, BUT UH, WHEN WE ENDED UP JUST LOOKING AT COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES, THIS IS MORE OF THE COMPARABLE RATE OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES AS WELL.
WHAT DID YOU SAY ARE, IS IT THE SAME AS OTHER CITIES OR IT'S, IT'S AROUND THE SAME.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH PAGE THREE OR THIS? OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE, THE CIVIC CENTER.
UM, AND I GUESS THE BIG THING ON THE CIVIC CENTER IS KINDA LIKE THE, THE SATURDAY MAIN HALL RENTAL.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, THIS IS DOING AWAY WITH THAT WHOLE BLOCK RENTAL AND, AND HAVING PEOPLE ACTUALLY JUST RENT THE CIVIC CENTER OUT IN A, LIKE A FOUR, LIKE A FOUR HOUR BLOCK ON THE WEEKENDS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DO HAVE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, AN INCREASE ON THE HOURLY RATE, BUT UM, WE THINK THAT THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP, UH, BRING IN MORE REVENUE TO THE, UH, TO THE CIVIC CENTER SO IT CAN BE RENTED OUT MORE INSTEAD OF SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T NEED IT FOR A FULL 10 HOURS, THEY CAN JUST RENT OUT FOUR HOUR BLOCK.
UH, RIGO, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT DO, DO WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT USE THE CIVIC CENTER FOR TRAINING AND CLASSES OR WHATEVER THEY DO? HOW, HOW MUCH DOES THAT INTERFERE WITH THE REVENUE COMING IN RIGHT NOW? THAT, UM, INTERFERES A LOT.
UM, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES TO DO TRAINING WITHIN THEIR OWN BUILDINGS.
UM, THEREFORE I THINK THEY'RE AT THE CIVIC CENTER ALMOST DAILY.
UM, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION FOUR IS COMPLETE, THERE WILL BE A
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TRAINING ROOM THERE THAT COULD BE USED.UM, PUBLIC SERVICES COMPLEX WILL ALSO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED TRAINING ROOM, SO THAT SHOULD HELP.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, IT'S USED VERY HEAVILY BY INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST FIRE AND POLICE, BUT MAJORITY IS THEIR USE.
IS IT, ARE THEY BEING USED DURING PEAK HOURS WHERE SOMEONE WOULD NORMALLY RENT IT OR IS IT JUST, I MEAN TYPICALLY IT'S DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
UM, AND I MEAN SOMETIMES IT MAY BE USED, BUT I MEAN, I'M SURE WE GET CALLS AND WE HAVE TO TELL 'EM THAT IT'S ALREADY RENTED BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A FREE RENTAL, UM, THEY STILL BOOK IT JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE WOULD.
AND IF THEY BOOK IT THEN WE, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE A RENTAL.
WHEN A NEW FIRE STATION IS BUILT, WILL THAT HAVE ENOUGH? UH, I, I REMEMBER WE LOOKED AT THE PLANS AND IT HAD ENOUGH ROOM FOR IT HAD LOTS OF EXTRA SPACE.
WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S ONE LARGE TRAINING ROOM IN THERE, UM, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME TRAINING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER RENTAL? SCOTT? THEY RENT OUT THE CIVIC CENTER.
UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY, MOST, MOST, WELL IT'S FOR RENT, BUT IT'S ALSO USED PRETTY HEAVILY BY THE CITY.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE NUMBERS WHEN I WENT TO THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS THAT YOU DID, DID YOU ACTUALLY GO YEAH, I WAS THERE AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD LIKE THREE TO FOUR EVENTS A DAY.
I WAS THREE OR FOUR COMPARED TO OTHER HALLS, UM, THAT ARE EMPTY MOST OF THE TIME.
FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHT IS PRETTY, UH, PRETTY BUSY I THINK THERE AND DURING THE WEEK, SO.
WELL RIGHT NOW IT'S OUTTA COMMISSION 'CAUSE THEY HAD A, UH, WATER LEAK, BUT IT'S BEING REDONE, SO REPAIRED.
ALRIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? SO THE NEXT ONE IS ON THE, ON THE, FOR THE HEALTH PERMITS TO ALSO INCLUDE THE FAT OIL AND GREASE, UM, UH, PERMITS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT TO COVER THOSE ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS THAT ARE BEING PERFORMED AT THE, AT OUR RESTAURANTS HERE IN TOWN.
SO WE'LL END UP HAVING THE HEALTH INSPECTOR THAT GOES OUT AND THEY PERFORM THEIR INSPECTIONS AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE, THE FOG INSPECTOR THAT COMES OUT AND ACTUALLY, UH, PHYSICALLY CHECKS ALL THE, THE GREASE TRAPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING OVERFLOWED AND GO INTO OUR SANITARY, UH, SEWER SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S, UH, SOME OF THE MANDATES THAT WE GET FROM TCEQ THEM TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT, THAT GREASE OUT OF THE SANITARY SEWER.
HOW OFTEN? HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR? THEY END UP, UH, UH, THEY DO MAKE THEIR ROUNDS JUST LIKE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, TO ALL THE RESTAURANTS EVERY YEAR.
BUT IT'S ALSO THE MECHANIC SHOPS AND YEAH, CHURCHES EVERYWHERE.
THERE'S A KITCHEN WHERE THERE'S A GREASE TRAP.
BUT I MEAN, I SEE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TOO MANY RESTAURANTS OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE.
MAYBE VITA NORCO'S, MAYBE ONLY I CAN THINK, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY ARE MORE THAN THAN A HUNDRED OR ONE.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS UP, BUT LIKE HOW MANY TIMES IN A YEAR DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED? OUR HEALTH INSPECTORS GO OUT TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR.
UH, I THINK WE'RE ON TWO RIGHT NOW.
UM, TRYING TO GET THERE, BUT YEAH, AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR FOR THE HEALTH INSPECTOR.
AND, AND THEN THE, THE, A FOG INSPECTOR WOULD GO OUT ONCE A YEAR.
SO THREE, IF YOU'RE A BIG RESTAURANT AND YOU'D HAVE TO BE A PRETTY BIG RESTAURANT TO HAVE A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.
SO YOU'RE COVERING THREE OR FOUR TOTAL INSPECTIONS.
AND OF COURSE THE MORE EMPLOYEES, THE BIGGER THE RESTAURANT, THE MORE THE MORE ITEMS TO INSPECT.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS YET ABOUT THAT.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I, IF WE DO.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HEALTH INSPECTOR FEES? ALRIGHT, THE, THE NEXT DEPARTMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER AND SANITARY, UH, SEWER, THESE FEES, UM, WE'RE, AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THESE ARE SOME, SOME NEW FEES.
THESE ARE PARTICULAR INSPECTIONS THAT OUR STAFF'S BEING CALLED OUT TO DO.
SO LIKE IF THEY, UM, A NEW BUSINESS NEEDS A FLOW TEST DONE, SO OUR STAFF HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND MEET WITH THE CONTRACTORS TO GO OUT THERE AND OPEN UP FIRE HYDRANTS.
UM, IF WE NEED TO, IF, UH, A HOME BUILDER WANTS A METER THE SAME DAY, UM, 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO SELL THEIR HOME, THEY'RE TRYING TO EXPEDITE US TO COME OUT HERE AND THESE ARE DIFFERENT FEES THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO ESTABLISH, UH,
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SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY RECOUP SOME OF OUR COSTS FROM OUR STAFF GOING OUT THERE.UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THIS PAGE? OKAY, AND THIS, THIS LAST PAGE, UM, THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S IN OUR, IN OUR ORDINANCE AND WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP TO ADD TO OUR SCHEDULE OF FEES, JUST TO CLEAN IT UP.
UM, LIKE FOR CARNIVALS, UH, LICENSES, UM, GOING FROM A HUNDRED TO 200, UH, BUT TO PULL ALL THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS BACK OUT OF THE ORDINANCE TO TO, UH, TO, TO UPDATE OUR SCHEDULE OF FEES.
UH, THE NEXT ONE'S ALSO PRECIOUS METALS TO INCREASE THAT TO, UH, A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND, UH, DOING AWAY WITH A TAXI PERMIT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT ONE.
WELL, LYFT AND UBER'S GOING ON WITH THAT, SO YEP, THAT'S, THAT PUT THE END, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT PUT THE, THAT PUT AN END TO THAT DELIVERY BUSINESS IS, SO JURIES PAY A HUNDRED.
PAWN SHOPS, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S STAYING UP AND UP.
CARNIVAL, HOW ABOUT PARADES OR HAVE WE SAY THAT AGAIN? PARADES, THAT'S 'CAUSE UNDER SPECIAL EVENT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BRING BACK LATER.
THAT, THAT'LL END UP COMING BACK AS PART OF THE SPECIAL EVENT.
UH, BECAUSE USUALLY THE PARADE OTHER THAN THE FAIR PARADE, WHICH OF COURSE THE FAIR I THINK DOES GOOD FOR THE CITY, CERTAINLY FUN.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES THESE PARADES REQUIRE A LOT OF STAFF, DON'T THEY? CERTAINLY POLICE, I DON'T KNOW.
WILL ALRIGHT, WE'LL BRING BACK.
IF, IF, IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THESE, UM, ON OUR NEXT AGENDA, WE WOULD BRING BACK, UM, SEVERAL ITEMS ON CONSENT.
UM, ONE WOULD BE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE ALL THESE NEW FEES.
AND THEN WE'D PROBABLY HAVE THREE OTHER, UM, CHANGES TO ORDINANCES, WHICH IS THIS LAST PAGE, UM, TO CLEAN UP THE ORDINANCES, UM, AND MOVE THE FEES FROM WITHIN THE ORDINANCE TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.
UM, SO DID WE LOSE GRADY AND RICHARD? AND RICHARD? SO THERE'D PROBABLY BE, UM, THREE OR FOUR ITEMS ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO, FOR Y'ALL TO VOTE ON THESE CHANGES WE JUST PRESENTED.
ARE WE GONNA DISCUSS WATER RATES? YES, WE ARE.
WHEN? RIGHT NOW WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW OR CAN, CAN WE DO IT? DO YOU NEED A BREAK? NO.
WELL, I THINK, UM, WE DO, WE DO NEED A BREAK, BUT, UM, WATER OR, YEAH, LET ME, LET ME GUESS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING A WATER RATE INCREASE.
CAN WE CUT RIGHT TO THE CHASE AND RICO? YES.
I THINK WE HAVE, YOU GET TO BE THE LUCKY GUY THAT THAT'S
[4. Review and discuss water, wastewater, and subsidence/groundwater reduction plan (GRP) fees, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Luis Garza, Executive Director of Administrative Services) ]
NO, THIS I'M PASSING ON.GIVE US THAT NUGGET OF GOOD NEWS AND THEN TELL US WHY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE WATER BUSINESS THAT THIS, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE CITY'S WATER WASTEWATER AND SUBSIDENCE FEES.
UM, PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED OUTLINING THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE FUND, THE COMPARISON OF RATES, UH, WITH OTHER ENTITIES, AND A SUMMARY OF THE RATES PAID BY THE CITY FOR SERVICE WATER.
UH, TONIGHT WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING GRP FEES.
WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT AT A LATER DATE.
A, THE COPY OF THE PRESENTATION WAS PRESENTED AT THE DAAS.
IT'S THE ONE THAT SAYS WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES.
SO THE WATER WASTEWATER FUND, UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKSTORY.
IT EXISTS TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEM IS FINANCIALLY SELF-SUSTAINING AND ABLE TO SUPPORT THE FULL COSTS OF PROVIDING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
THE WATER WASTEWATER FUND IS CONSIDERED AN ENTERPRISE FUND AS IT OPERATES MORE LIKE A BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE USERS PAY FOR THE SERVICES THEY RECEIVE.
AND THE FUND GENERATES ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER ALL CURRENT AND FUTURE COSTS.
WATER AND SEWER RATES ARE SET BASED ON THE FULL COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE OF OPERATIONS, THE TREATMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, AND LONG-TERM CAPITAL NEEDS.
UH, SO THE FUND REMAINS FINANCIALLY SELF-SUPPORTING WITHOUT RELIANCE ON THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WHY ARE ADJUST THE RATES, UH, RISING OPERATIONAL COSTS FROM CHEMICALS, TREATMENT, MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA.
AGING INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRING MORE FREQUENT MAINTENANCE, THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND SYSTEM CAPACITY NEEDS.
THE ENTERPRISE FUND MUST REMAIN SELF-SUPPORTING.
SO IT DOESN'T RELY ON THE GENERAL FUND.
CURRENT REVENUES ONLY SUPPORT OPERATING EXPENDITURES.
AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 27 CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $5 MILLION, UM, FOR THOSE FIVE PROJECTS.
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ENGINEERING STUDY FOR CDBG GRANT APPLICATIONS, ALMOST A MILLION.LIFT STATION NUMBER FOUR, RENOVATIONS AT 2.5 MILLION.
THE UPGRADE TO THE REUS WATER FACILITY, UH, PHASE ONE IS 500,000.
THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
NUMBER TWO, CLARIFIER NUMBER TWO, REHAB IS ANOTHER 1.5 MILLION.
AND THEN PHASE THREE OF OUR WATER METER REGISTER TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE IS 400,000.
SO AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS FUNDING NEEDED FOR FISCAL YEAR 27.
LEWIS, THIS IS, THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IS LIST STATION NUMBER FOUR? JONES STREET.
SO THAT LITTLE LIFT STATION TO, TO RENOVATE IT NOT EVEN CONSTRUCTED IS TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE ESTIMATE THAT WE PAID ON OTHER LIFT STATIONS AND UH, ANY OF THAT COVERED WITH GRANT MONEY? NO SIR.
SO JUST OUT OF THIS FUND, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, HOW MANY LIFT STATIONS DOES, DOES THIS CITY HAVE? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AND WE HAVE 32 OF 'EM.
SO IS THERE ANY MORE, UH, LIKE THIS THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED? YES.
SOME WE HAVE SOME LIKE JONES STREET IS AN OLD DISTRICT.
WELL, OLD DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU HAVE TO RENOVATE.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER OUR, OUR, OUR SYSTEM A AGING SYSTEM THAT NEEDS A LOT OF UPGRADES? DON'T ASK HIM THAT.
UM, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS.
AGING INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRING MAINTENANCE.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, WHAT'S THAT WHEN THE, WHEN YOU THEY HOOK UP TO THE, TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER THAT IMPACT, THAT IMPACT FEE? WHAT'S IT CALLED? YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE A WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.
UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
WHEN, WHEN NEW, WHEN THERE'S NEW CONNECTIONS MADE, THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT IMPACT FEE, BUT THAT FEE CAN ONLY BE USED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IT CAN ONLY BE USED TO EXPAND THE SYSTEM FOR THE GROWTH.
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY EVERYTHING WE HAVE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WATER FUND THIS YEAR ARE ALL MORE OR LESS MAINTENANCE ITEMS AND THEREFORE NEED TO BE PAID OUT OF THE WATER FUND ITSELF.
THERE'S NO UNDERFUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THESE EXPENDITURES.
SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING OUT OF THE WATER BILL MONEY? YES.
AND, AND AS LOUIS SAID, CURRENTLY OUR WATER REVENUES ARE ENOUGH TO COVER ONLY OUR OPERATING EXPENSES.
UM, LAST YEAR WE, WE USED OUR RETAINED EARNINGS, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO FUND BALANCE IN THE WA IN A WATER ACCOUNT.
UM, BUT THAT ACCOUNT DOES NOT HAVE A LARGE BALANCE AND WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THERE TO CONTINUE TAKING IT OUT OF OUR SAVINGS.
IF WE HAD TO, UM, RAISE THE WATER RATES, WHAT WOULD YOU, UM, WHAT RATE WOULD YOU, HOW MUCH, UM, LEWIS IS ABOUT TO COVER THAT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
BUT, BUT WHEN YOU GLOSSED OVER, WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE WATER WASTE WATER FUND? UM, IT'S AROUND 8 MILLION, 8.5 MILLION.
BUT WE'RE PROJECTING TO USE 2.8 MILLION IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THAT'LL PUT US DOWN TO ABOUT FIVE.
AND WE REALLY DON'T WANNA GO MUCH LOWER THAN THAT 'CAUSE WE NEED THAT JUST IN CASE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY IN CASE OF OKAY.
LIKE WHAT TYPE OF EMERGENCY? HAVE A WATER THAT ENDS UP THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGO, PLEASE GO TO A MICROPHONE.
TCEQ MIGHT END UP PUTTING SOMETHING AT THE SEWER PLANT THAT ENDS UP BEING CUT AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
IT COULD BE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, IT COULD BE A A, SOME KIND OF A SYSTEM FAILURE AT THE, AT THE SEWER PLANT THAT IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE MAJOR RENOVATIONS OR IT WASN'T LIKE A NATURAL CATASTROPHE BE AFFECT THAT BIG TIME.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THOSE CTE, WELL NO, I'M SORRY.
USUALLY THE CITY GETS REIMBURSED, UM, ON HURRICANE ON EMERGENCY STUFF, BUT THE CITY HAS TO USUALLY WE HAVE TO FRONT, YEAH, WE HAVE TO FRONT THE COST TO FRONT THE MONEY AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF PAPERWORK TO GET THE MONEY BACK.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALL THE MONEY BACK.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECT? I THINK CURRENTLY IT'S AT 75%.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE RATE INCREASES, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MULTI-YEAR RATE ADJUSTMENT, JUST SO THE PHASING APPROACH TO, UH, IMPLEMENT INCREMENTAL MULTI-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS RATHER THAN DOING A ONE, UM, LARGE ONE-TIME INCREASE.
AND THAT'LL ALIGN THE RECURRING REVENUES WITH REOCCURRING OPERATING AND CAPITAL COSTS.
UH, ALSO PHASING IT IN MAINTAINS THE SERVICE RELIABILITY AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE AND ALSO SUPPORTS A LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE REINVESTMENT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PHASE ONE, WHICH IS WHERE TONIGHT, UH, REVISE THE WATER AND SEWER BASE RATES, WHICH
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WOULD TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER ONE.AND WE WOULD DO PHASE TWO NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, LOOKING AT THE TIERED RATES.
AND THEN ALSO PHASE THREE, ANOTHER, UH, SMALL INCREASE IN FISCAL YEAR 29.
AGAIN, SMALL RATE INCREASES INSTEAD OF ONE LARGE INCREASE.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL, THE BASE, WHICH IS THE FIRST 2000 GALLONS, WOULD INCREASE FROM $12 TO $15.
AND THEN THE TIERED RATES, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THOSE THIS YEAR.
THE WATER RATES ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WILL INCREASE, UH, BASED ON THE METER SIZE, AGAIN, THE THREE FOURTH WATER METER FROM 12 TO 15.
AND AS THE METER SIZES GO UP, SO DOES THE INCREASE THE SEWER RATE FOR RESIDENTIAL? AGAIN, FOR THE BASE RATE IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST 2000 GALLONS.
WE'RE INCREASING IT, WE'RE REPOSING TO INCREASE IT FROM 15 TO $18.
AND THEN THE SEWER RATES ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, SAME THING DEPENDING ON THE METER SIZE.
UM, THE THREE QUARTER INCH FROM 1518, AND THEN AGAIN AS THE METER SIZES INCREASE, SO WILL THE INCREASE ON THE, UM, THE RATE, THE BASE RATE WHEN WE LOOK AT OURSELVES, UM, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES WITHIN FOR BEND COUNTY, UH, IN TERMS OF A RESIDENTIAL WATER BILL FOR AN AVERAGE USER, A FAMILY OF 7,500 GALLONS, UM, OUR CURRENT WATER BILL FOR JUST A WATER SEWER AND SUBSIDENCE IS $81 AND 3 CENTS.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO INCREASE IT BY $6 TO $87 AND 3 CENTS.
THAT'S FAR LESS, UM, COMPARED TO RICHMOND, SUGARLAND, SHORE, MEADOWS PLACE, MISSOURI CITY AND NEVILLE.
AND THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE THE AVERAGES.
UM, WITH EVEN WITH THE INCREASE.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR, WAS IT, IF YOU TAKE, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.
UH, IF YOU TAKE KATIE OUTTA THAT, WE'D BE THE LOWEST, UH, THE LOWEST ONE THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO WHAT WOULD THAT INCREASE LOOK LIKE FOR A RESIDENTIAL, UM, CUSTOMER AT 7,500 GALLONS WOULD BE A $6 INCREASE FOR RESIDENTIAL 20,000 GALLONS.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE BASE RATE.
AND AGAIN, FOR COMMERCIAL IT'S A $25 FEE, A $25 INCREASE, AND A COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT WITH 200,000 GALLONS, IT'S $35.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THE BASE RATES THIS YEAR.
UH, NOTHING TO THE TIERED RATES.
SO LOOKING FOR COUNCIL FEEDBACK, UH, OPTION ONE WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THE MULTI-YEAR RATE ADJUSTMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PLANNED INCREMENTAL RATE STRATEGY THAT ALIGNS REOCCURRING REVENUES WITH THE FULL COST OF PROVIDING THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THE ONGOING OPERATIONS AND FUNDING THE CRITICAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
OPTION TWO IS IF WE DON'T DO A RATE INCREASE, BUT WE COULD ISSUE REVENUE BONDS, DEBT FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THAT WOULD KEEP THE, UH, RATES FLAT, BUT RELY ON REVENUE BONDS TO FUND THE MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THIS WOULD, UH, ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
AND THERE IS CURRENT DEBT CAPACITY IN FISCAL YEAR 28 TO ISSUE DEBT, UH, FROM THE WATER WASTE WATER FUND.
AND THAT'S AT GRAPH THERE AT THE BOTTOM.
THE BLUE, THE DARK BLUE IS WHAT WE OWE IN THE WATER WASTE WATER FUND.
AND THAT TEAL COLOR IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD ISSUE EVERY YEAR OR THE, THE YEARLY DEBT PAYMENTS TO KEEP THE DEV, THE REVENUE DEBT, UM, EVEN OR WE COULD NOT INCREASE ANY RATES ISSUE, NO DEBT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO DEFER ALL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO LATER FISCAL YEARS.
SO THIS OPTION WOULD RESUME NO FUNDING FOR CRI CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
UM, THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WILL CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE.
THE UTILITY WILL FACE INCREASING SYSTEM FAILURES, SERVICE DISRUPTIONS AND EMERGENCY REPAIRS.
WE ALSO RISK, UH, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.
FUTURE COST WILL ESCALATE DRAMATICALLY DUE TO THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN THE SYSTEM WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME FINANCIALLY AND OPERATIONALLY UNSUSTAINABLE.
WELL, AT LEAST WE'RE NOT LIVING IN PHOENIX, YOU KNOW, WHICH THEY PAY FOR WATER A LOT.
SO MAYOR, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR JUST YOUR INPUT ON WHAT OPTION WE'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT IN TERMS OF WATER RATE INCREASES OR NO INCREASES AT ALL OR ISSUE DEBT.
WELL, THERE IS A CAPITAL ROGERS, WELL THERE'S A FOURTH OPTION.
AND WHAT IS THAT? AND, AND, AND WE WILL LIVE BY IT.
WE WILL, WE WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF A PUBLIC VOTE.
PUT 10, 15, $20 MILLION ON THE BALLOT.
LET LET THE PUBLIC VOTE ON IT.
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WATER, GOOD CLEAN WATER.WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, DEBT, WE DON'T, WELL THIS IS THIS GROUP HERE.
WE DON'T APPROVE DEBT UNLESS IT'S VOTER APPROVED.
SO I'M I'M I'M GUESSING YOU'RE SUGGESTING A, THESE ARE AN ELECTION, RIGHT? WELL THESE ARE REVENUE BOND DEBTS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE, TO THE VOTERS.
YEAH, REVENUE BONDS DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS.
REVENUE BONDS ARE PAID BACK WITH THE REVENUES FROM THE ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT WE COULD ASK THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON IT, RIGHT? GRADY, YOU COULD DO GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE A REFERENDUM ON IT IF YOU WANT ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT ABOUT A REFERENDUM SINCE IT WOULD IN DEPTH THESE FOLKS.
OR WE COULD JUST DECIDE AND WE, WE GOTTA GIVE YOU SOME, JOYCE NEEDS AN ANSWER, IN OTHER WORDS TONIGHT.
IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THE OPTIONS OF EITHER A MULTI-YEAR RATE INCREASE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE ON ISSUE.
SOME REVENUE LOANS THE MULTI-YEAR.
I MEAN IF, LET, LET ME LET TELL SCOTT, THE BIGGEST SERVICE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES EVERY DAY IS WATER.
YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT THIS SERVICE.
YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT THAT SERVICE.
WE GOTTA HAVE WATER, WE GOTTA TREAT THE WATER, WE GOTTA HAVE CLEAN WATER AND IT HAS TO BE THERE.
AND WHEN IT, YOU HAVE A WATER BREAK, WE GOT, SOMETIMES THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, YOU GOTTA HAVE A CITY EMPLOYEE COME.
SOMETIMES THEY'VE HAD BIG WATER BREAKS UNDER STREETS, THEY CAVE IN THE STREET.
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING TO MESS AROUND OR JOKE AROUND WITH.
BUT I LIKE TO JOKE AROUND AND SO I JUST ADDED A LITTLE HUMOR ON THAT DEBT DEAL.
BUT, UM, SO WE'LL WE COULD LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS HERE.
WE'LL START WITH, UH, RICHARD.
RICHARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? OPTION ONE OR, UM, OPTION TWO.
THIS WAS YEAH, IT, IT'S ON ONE IS A MULTI-YEAR RATE INCREASE.
TWO IS, UM, ISSUE REVENUE BONDS AND THREE IS TO DO NOTHING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR SYSTEM.
WHICH OPTION? THERE ARE TWO OF 'EM ARE ON YOUR SCREEN.
ALRIGHT, SCOTT, OPTION ONE, TWO OR ONE.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT ANALYSIS.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S GOOD AND IT'S GOOD FOR PUBLIC TO KNOW.
I KNOW IT'S NOT A GLAMOROUS ISSUE, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
WE'RE JUST LUCKY THAT WE LIVE, UH, J UH, IN A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE HAVE PLENTY OF WATER.
WELL WE GET RAIN IN SOUTH TEXAS.
I MEAN THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH OF THEIR, UH, CHOKE CANYON AND LAKE ITY GOT DOWN TO 9% CAPACITY.
SO THEY'VE BEEN UNDER WATER RATIONS FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'RE PAYING A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE TOO.
SO I KNOW AS MUCH AS WE HATE TO INCREASE RATES, UM, IT'D BE WORSE TO, TO HAVE OUR WATER SYSTEM TO FAIL.
[5. Review and discuss proposed single-family residential development, called Rose Ranch, on approximately 163.2 acres located south of Bryan Road and west of Minonite Road/FM 2977 within the Unincorporated Areas of Fort Bend County, Texas, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
I'LL READ THE ITEM.REVIEW AND DISCUSS PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CALLED ROSE RANCH ON APPROXIMATELY 163.2 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH OF BRYAN ROAD AND WEST OF MENNONITE, UH, MENNONITE ROAD AND, UH, FM 29 77 WITHIN THE UN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF FORT BEND COUNTY.
AND TAKE ACTION TO DIRECT STAFF.
UH, JAMES KKA, UH, LG ENGINEERING REPRESENT REPRESENTING, UH, CENTURY COMMUNITIES.
DEVELOPER HAS SUBMITTED CORRESPONDENCE TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING A PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CALLED ROSE RANCH.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 163.2 ACRES LOCATED SOUTH OF BRYAN ROAD AND WEST OF MENNONITE ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS FM 29 77 WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF FORT BEND COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S ON THE SCREEN.
UH, THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY'S ETJ, UH, IT USED TO BE IN THE CITY ETJ, BUT IT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ETJ.
SO NOW IT'S IN, IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE, OF THE COUNTY.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN FORT BEND COUNTY, AS I SAID, IN MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 66.
AND THE DEVELOPER'S DESIRE IS TO ANNEX THE LAND INTO THE CITY CGJ
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IN ORDER TO NO, IN ORDER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICES.THE DEVELOPER PRESENTED THE PROJECT AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE JUNE, 2026.
REGULAR, REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSION GENERALLY APPRECIATED THE PROJECT.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN EXPRESSED REGARDING THE LOT SIZES.
THE DEVELOPER DESIRES TO DEVELOP A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH APPROXIMATELY 441 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH THREE LOT RANGES, INCLUDING 130 LOTS AT 40 FEET, UH, BY 120 FEET, WHICH REPRESENT ABOUT 29%.
UH, ALSO 180 4 LOTS AT 50, UH, FEET BY 120.
AND LASTLY, 1 27 LOTS AT 60 FEET BY 120 THAT REPRESENT ABOUT 28 20 8%.
ALL RESIDENTIAL STREET PAVEMENT WITHIN DEVELOPMENT WILL BE 36 FEET WIDE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.
ALSO, PARKLAND DEDICATION WILL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS BEFORE BRINGING AN ITEM FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT TO RETURN INTO THE CITY.
THE STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER ARE SEEKING INPUT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE DEVELOP THE APPLICANT FROM LJ LJ ENGINEERING IS HERE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT.
ALSO, I THINK THE DEVELOPER ALSO HERE, YOU, I'LL RUN IT FOR YOU HERE.
UM, JAMES KAKA, 67 WOOD HOLLOW DRIVE, CONROE, TEXAS.
CAN YOU SEE THE MICROPHONE OVER HERE? IT'S GREEN, IT'S ALREADY ON.
OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UM, 67 WOOD HOLLOW DRIVE, CONROE, TEXAS.
UM, AGAIN, UH, THIS IS FOR THE ROSE RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
UH, LIKE MOHAMMAD SAID, THIS IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BRIAN ROAD AND FM 29 77.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, IN THIS CORRIDOR.
UH, THIS CORRIDOR HAS TWO MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS BEING, UH, RICE FIELD ROAD COMING FROM THE EAST AND CONNECTING INTO ROSE RANCH BOULEVARD, UH, THAT IS OUR NORTH SOUTH.
UM, BOTH OF THOSE WILL CONTINUE MOVING DOWN SOUTH, WHICH WILL THEN EVENTUALLY CONNECT INTO, UH, SPOT CHECK ROAD.
UM, WE DO HAVE A PORTION OF SPOT CHECK ROAD ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, IT'S CROSSING A EXISTING CREEK THERE THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON DEDICATING, UM, RIGHT AWAY FOR, AND ALSO PUTTING IN THE, UH, BOX CULVERTS UNDERNEATH THAT ON ROAD OVERALL, UH, MOHAMMAD KIND OF COVERED A LOT OF THIS.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING FORTIES, FIFTIES, SIXTIES FOR THIS SECTION.
UM, 29.5%, 40 41 0.7% FIFTIES, AND 28.8% SIXTIES.
UH, THIS PROJECT ALSO, UH, HAS A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, THAT WE'RE HELPING EXTEND SOME WATER LINES, UH, DOWN 29 77.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A 16 INCH THAT WE'RE EXTENDING SOUTH, UH, AS WELL AS WE HAVE A 12 INCH WATER LINE, UM, CONNECTING RICE FIELD AND ROSE RANCH FOR WATER CONNECTIVITY DETENTION.
ALL OF OUR DETENTION IS GOING, UM, TO THE KIND OF NORTHWEST OF OUR SECTION.
THAT'S WHERE OUR OUTFALL FOR, THERE'S AN EXISTING CHANNEL OVER THERE.
THERE WE'RE WORKING ON THE, UH, DIA REPORT RIGHT NOW TO, TO SUBMIT TO FORT BEND COUNTY.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY EXTRA DETENTION, UH, IN OUR POND PARK SPACE REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE ARE DEDICATING 8.4, I BELIEVE THE REQUIRED WAS, UH, THE, THE REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS AROUND 8.3.
UM, WE'RE STRATEGICALLY PLACING PARKS WHERE WE HAVE, UH, SOME TREE GROWTH, UM, ON THIS TRACK, TRYING TO KEEP THE PARKS AS, UH, NATURAL AS POSSIBLE AND KEEPING AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE AROUND A THREE ACRE
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WRECK CENTER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.FENCING FENCING'S GONNA BE PLACED ALONG ALL OF OUR COLLECTOR ROADS AND THEN ALSO ALONG, UH, FM 29 77 AND BRIAN ROAD.
UM, WE HAVE SOME FENCING DETAILS OF WHAT THOSE FENCES COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF US, UH, TO TRY AND, UH, COME UP WITH A FENCING.
UH, SO WE'RE NOT CONTRADICTING, UH, FENCINGS BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
THEN WE GOT SOME EXAMPLES OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT I'LL HAVE JEFF TALK ABOUT.
CAN I JUST ASK Y'ALL, IS THIS, THIS IS ALMOST NINE O'CLOCK AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST, BUT THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMIT, SO OUR AUTHORITY, AS YOU KNOW, IS LIMITED.
BUT, UH, IS, UH, ARE YOU, ARE WE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE, UM, AND THIS LOOKS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST, ROSENBERG.
UM, ARE WE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR, YOUR DEAL HERE? YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE FAST.
OKEY DO
UM, TO TAKE YOUR POINT, I'LL, I'LL MOVE FAST THROUGH THESE.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, VARIETY OF HOUSING, UM, STYLES HERE TO, UM, PRESENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, PRIMARILY, UM, UH, FARMHOUSE, UM, UH, PRAIRIE OLD WORLD AND HILL COUNTRY.
THESE ARE SOME SAMPLES OF WHAT THE 30 FOOT PRODUCT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE 40 FOOT LOTS.
UH, I DON'T HAVE THE COLORED MARKUPS HERE FOR THE 40 FOOT PRODUCT THAT WILL GO ON THE 50 FOOT LOTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EXTENDING THE SAME, UH, UH, ELEVATION STYLES.
AND THEN FINALLY THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT, UM, ON THE 60 FOOT LOTS THAT WILL HAVE A LOT OF THREE CAR GARAGE OPTIONS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN ALL OF THESE EXAMPLES, WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, CHARACTER, UM, VARIOUS THINGS THAT WILL KIND OF ENHANCE THE AESTHETIC OF THE PROJECT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE BUILDER? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF OUR PRESENTATION.
WELL, THEY LOOK LIKE VERY NICE, UH, HOMES.
UM, SO, UH, REALLY MOHAMMED, WHAT DID YOU NEED? SO THEY JUST NEED DIRECTION.
I MEAN, THEY ULTIMATELY WANT TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY'S ETJ.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT, UH, THAT WILL, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY TURNED IN THEIR PETITION TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE ETJ BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO NEGOTIATE ANY AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY TO RECEIVE WATER AND THE SEWER, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA, UH, THEY HAVE TO BE IN OUR ETJ AT LEAST.
IS THAT, IS THAT STATUTE GRADING IN ORDER TO RE TO MAKE A WATER DEAL WITH THEM? THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE ETJ TYPICALLY THERE IS A PREMIUM FOR GOING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS FOR WATER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT A, IF THERE IS EVEN A CCN IN PLAY HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO IT OUT.
SO WHY, WHY JUST SHOOTING OFF THE HIP? I'M, WHY, UH, WHY DO WE HAVE TO PUT 'EM IN THE ETJ? UM, IT'S OKAY.
I MEAN, ONE OPTION MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE, THE, DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY PARTICULAR 'CAUSE REALLY JUST FROM US, YOU NEED, YOU REALLY, YOU NEED WATER? YES.
UM, THIS PROJECT'S CURRENTLY KIND OF IN NO MAINS LAND, UM, WHEN IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE ETJ.
UM, AND THERE'S NO CCNS NEXT TO US.
SO REALLY GETTING BACK IN THE CITY, ETJ IS, IS OUR ROUTE O OTHER THAN WATER AND SEWER, WAS THERE ANY OTHER REASON YOU WANTED TO BE IN, IN THE ETJ? 'CAUSE WE CAN MAYBE AC IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAYBE ACCOMMODATE THOSE CONCERNS EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T IN THE E TJ.
WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN MUD 66 RIGHT NOW.
WHICH IS IN THE COUNTY, NOT IN THE NO, IT'S IN E TJ.
WELL, THEY'LL PROBABLY NEED TO GO INTO THE EDJ TO
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GET INTO THE MUD.YOU THINK SO? TO GET INTO A MUD, YOU HAVE TO BE IN AN E TJ.
WELL, THE MUD'S ALREADY IN THE MUD ETJ, THE MUD THAT THEY'RE JOINING.
SO ARE Y'ALL, HOW ABOUT FIRE SERVICE? ARE Y'ALL GONNA BE NEEDING THAT FROM THE CITY FIRE SERVICE? YEAH.
SO, SO THE FIRE SERVICES, THEY ARE, UH, ACTUALLY PROVIDED BY ESD, BUT ESDD DOESN'T CO COVER THAT AREA.
THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
THE ESD HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, SO THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY SERVICE THAT.
SO WOULD WE COLLECT THAT? NO, WE WILL NOT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA PAY ESD SIX TAXES.
WELL, WHY, WHY ARE WE PROVIDING FIRE SERVICE? BECAUSE ESD SIX PAYS THE CITY OF ROSENBERG TO SERVICE THEIR AREA.
OKAY, SO INDIRECTLY WE DO, WE YES.
LET ME, UH, JUST GIVE SCOTT THE CLIFF NOTES HERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, LIKE, WELL, I AIN'T GONNA SAY NO MAN'S LAND 'CAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CITY AND IT'S NOT IN THE ETJ.
AND SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING IF WE COULD HELP 'EM OUT.
AND THEY REALLY, IF WE DIDN'T, THEY COULD STILL MAKE IT ON THEIR OWN.
BUT THEY HAVE TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER SOURCE OF WATER AND SEWER.
THE CITY ACTUALLY BENEFITS BECAUSE WE PICK UP MORE WATER AND SEWER CUSTOMERS.
UM, NOW THE, THE KIND OF THE, THE RUB THAT WE DON'T PREFER IS, UH, THE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.
THIS IS GONNA BE A HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN THE CITY LIMIT.
UM, IT WOULD BE NEAR THE CITY LIMIT AND IT WOULD BE, THEY'RE ASKING TO BE IN THE ETJ, WHICH COULD EVENTUALLY BE IN THE CITY LIMIT.
BUT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT.
NOW, CITIES CAN'T JUST, UH, TELL AN ETJ NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THE CITY.
THE FOLKS THERE HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED THAT IT WILL EVER ACTUALLY BE IN THE CITY LIMIT.
LETS, THE STATE LAWS CHANGE AND ALLOW CITIES TO DO LIKE THEY USED TO DO WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.
THEY, THEY COULD ANNEX ETJ WITHOUT AGAINST PEOPLE'S WILL.
AND THANKFULLY THE, THE STATE CHANGED THAT RULE, UM, AND CHANGE THAT LAW.
AND NOW FOLKS HAVE TO PETITION TO GET INTO THE CITY.
UM, AND, AND SO WITHOUT THAT, UH, CITIES JUST CAN'T OVERCOME 'EM.
SO THE QUESTION TO US TONIGHT IS, DO WE WANT TO ALLOW, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO, I MEAN, NOT NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS AREA TO, TO, UH, BE IN OUR ETJ, NOT OUR CITY LIMITS.
SO TECHNICALLY AND FORMALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING BACK ON OUR PLEDGES OF, UM, OF, OF NOT, UH, APPRO NOT APPROVING ANY MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THE CITY.
'CAUSE THAT WAS OUR, THAT'S OUR PLEDGE OR MY PLEDGE.
AND I THINK MOST FOLKS HERE, UM, NO MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THE CITY.
WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN, IN, IN THE ETJ, BUT IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US ACCESS TO 441 NEW ACCOUNTS, UM, AND SOME OTHER FINANCIAL BENEFIT.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY THE PARKLAND DEDICATION? UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME SAYING, SHOW US THE MONEY SPECIFICALLY JOYCE, SINCE YOU'RE THE MONEY LADY.
THERE WILL BE WATER SALES AND THERE WILL BE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, PLANNING FEES.
UH, THE, THE FACT THAT IF THEY'RE NOT IN ETJ, THEY JUST WORK WITH THE COUNTY, SO WE REALLY CAN'T COORDINATE ANYTHING WITH THEM.
THEY TECHNICALLY DON'T HAVE TO COORDINATE ANYTHING WITH US.
IF THEY STAY IN THE COUNTY, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE LEVERAGE AND REVIEW THEIR SUBDIVISION PLATS AND ENFORCE SOME OF THOSE QUALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BY THEM BEING IN THE ETJ.
SO ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, THAT IS, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT COMPARED TO PAST, UM, DEVELOPMENT, CERTAINLY THE OLD ROSE RANCH, IS THESE FOLKS HAVE AGREED TO WIDER STREETS.
UM, 36 FEET IS PROBABLY NOT THE STANDARD THAT YOU'RE USED TO BUILDING, UH, IN, IN THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
IF, IF, IF WE WERE TO STAY IN FORT BEND COUNTY, I BELIEVE THE MINIMUM IS 28 FOOT BACK TO BACK, WHAT IS IT? 28 FOOT, 28 FOOT BACK TO BACK, WHICH IS PRETTY TIGHT STREET.
UM, SO, UH, THESE FOLKS HAVE, HAVE AGREED, THEY KNOW OUR STANDARDS.
THEY'VE SEEN OBVIOUSLY SOUNDS LIKE MOHAMMED HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT NEGOTIATING.
AND, AND BECAUSE BUILDERS, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET REALLY THE ECONOMIC VERSION OF A STARTER HOME, WHICH WOULD BE,
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YOU KNOW, UH, PROBABLY LESS, A LOT LESS THAN PROBABLY WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE SUGGESTING FOR THIS.LIKE SMALLER STREETS, PROBABLY, UH, UH, SOME BUILDING TECHNO ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS OR I SAW SOME BRICK ON THESE PRODUCTS.
AND SO SOME, SOME HOMES, SOME OF THESE STARTER HOMES DON'T HAVE ANY BREAD.
THESE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME, I DIDN'T GET INTO TO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
SO THE, UH, THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION TO SEE IF WE'RE AGREEABLE TO LET THESE FOLKS INTO THE ETJ.
THIS IS NOT THE CITY LIMIT INTO THE ETJ.
RICHARD WOULD, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT YOUR AGREEABILITY OR NOT THEY WANNA BE IN THE ETJ.
UH, WE'LL WE WILL DO YOU LAST, SCOTT, UM, FELIX, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? NO, SIR.
SO DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT, IT'S AN INVOLVED ISSUE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK US IN THAT DRAINAGE DEAL THERE? Y'ALL ARE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA WORK THAT OUT WITH THAT DRAINAGE.
UM, THAT LITTLE DITCH THAT WENT THROUGH THERE, CORRECT? NO WHISPERING MA'AM.
I'M HELEN WITH OJ AND I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE REASON WHY WE'RE MEETING HERE IS FOR, TO ALLOW FOR SOME TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
AS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MENTIONED, PNC MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
THAT'S WHAT IS WITHIN THE CITY.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE DIRECTION ON DEVELOPMENT FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE, WE, WE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW, WE, WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, THESE ARE BEING PROPOSED FORTIES, FIFTIES, AND SIXTIES.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE RELUCTANTLY AGREEABLE.
BECAUSE IT'S, WE, WE BELIEVE IN, IN PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WE ALSO ARE CONSERVATIVES.
THIS IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMIT.
WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S INTEREST IN THE CITY AND EVEN THOUGH YOU NEED OUR WATER, WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD A GUN TO YOUR HEAD.
IF YOU WERE IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE'D HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR, OUR, UH, PLEDGES.
SO OUR, WE FEEL PROBABLY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR GOVERNMENT OUTREACH SHOULD BE LIMITED.
DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? THANK YOU.
IS THAT, ARE YOU AGREEABLE WITH THAT? YEAH.
ANYWAYS, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
FORTIES, FIFTIES, AND SIXTIES.
GENERALLY SPEAKING MA'AM, IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT 40 FOOT LOTS, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING, BUT A LOT OF THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED AND WILL GO BE MITIGATED BECAUSE OF 36 FOOT STREETS.
AND IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A FINANCIAL IN INCENTIVE, WHICH WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT THE NEED FOR.
AND SO, UM, ONE, ONE BENEFICIAL SIDE NOTE IS THOSE FOLKS IN THE ETJ, THEY'RE GONNA GO AND SPEND IN, UH, BRAS TOWN CENTER AND WE'RE GONNA GET DIRECT BENEFIT FROM THAT AND WE JUST HOPE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF POLICE AND FIRE CALLS OUT THERE.
SO, I GOT ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR HIM.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE HOUSES ARE GONNA BE BUILDER GRADE QUALITY? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO ANSWER BUILDER GRADE QUALITY.
'CAUSE WE ARE A HOME BUILDER AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD A VERY NICE PRODUCT.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT BUILD A GREAT QUALITY IS.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A VERY NICE HOME.
UM, AND ON ALL, ALL THESE, THE FORTIES, FIFTIES, AND SIXTIES ARE, WE JUST DON'T, THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE NICE.
WE, OUR HORTONS HERE, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THE, WE WILL BE WELL ABOVE THEM ON A MARKET VALUE.
I KNOW MS. MS. BARTA, IF SHE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE, SHE WOULD'VE ASKED, WHERE IS THE PLACEMENT OF YOUR WATER HEATER? IS IT UPSTAIRS OR IS IT IN THE GARAGE? I'VE CONFIRMED IT WILL BE IN THE GARAGE.
ALRIGHT, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NO, I JUST WANTED
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TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND, UH, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, BEING BACK HERE IN A COUPLE WEEKS TO, UM, FORMALIZE THOSE, UM, AGREEMENTS.THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TWEAK BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, SO DON'T BE OFFENDED IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP.
BUT, AND IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP ON Y'ALL'S END, JUST LET HAM KNOW.
[6. Review and discuss City of Rosenberg Boards, Committees and Commissions, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ]
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.UM, IF IT'S OKAY, BEEN WELL, WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO THE JULY 7TH.
GREAT MEETING BECAUSE THAT WAS AMANDA'S ITEM AND SHE'S NOT HERE TO, OKAY.
COULD WE, I WANT, I CAN MOTION TO TABLE THAT 30TH BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE HERE ANYWAY RIGHT? NEXT WEEK.
RICHARD RICHARD'S GONNA RUN THE MEETING FOR A SECOND.
WELL THEN WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IS THAT'S FINE.
AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A, UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA PICK ANY MEMBERS OR RIGHT.
SO COULD IT BE SOMETHING WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT DAY? SURE.
WE'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA THAT WE SENT TO Y'ALL TODAY.
[7. Review and discuss the Animal Control and Shelter monthly report for May 2026, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
OKAY.WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
REVIEW AND DISCUSS ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER MONTHLY REPORT FOR MAY, 2026.
AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF.
UH, TODAY WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF MAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY.
LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK TODAY.
UH, A COUPLE OF GOOD STORIES FOR YOU GUYS.
WE HAVE BATH TIMES AT THE SHELTER.
WE HAD THE HAPPY TAILS, FOUR H OF FORT BEND COUNTY, STOP BY TO GIVE OUR DOGS A MUCH NEEDED SPA DAY.
SEVERAL, UM, SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS CAME TO THE SHELTER AND MET WITH PLENTY OF OUR DOGS AND GOT THEM ALL BATHED UP READY FOR ADOPTION EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
WE HAD A PRETTY COOL RESCUE STORY.
UH, MILE HIGH LABS IS A RESCUE PARTNER OUT OF DENVER, COLORADO THAT SOMEHOW CAUGHT WIND OF US HAVING THREE LABS IN OUR SHELTER.
AND WITH THE HELP OF THEM AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THEM TO COLORADO WHERE THEY'VE ALREADY FOUND AMAZING HOMES TO BE, UH, BE WITH.
AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS GO FOR INTAKES, WE DID HAVE A TOTAL OF 120 INTAKES FOR THE MONTH OF MAY 40 DOGS, 77 CATS, THREE OTHERS SEPARATED THERE BY THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO THE SUMMER DOES GET A LITTLE ROUGHER.
UH, YOU HAVE MORE ANIMALS COMING IN DUE TO CAT SEASON, PUPPY SEASON.
UM, SO WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP ON THE OUTCOMES, BUT WE STILL HAD 33 DOGS COME OUT.
61 DOGS LEAVE THE SHELTER, AND THREE OTHERS AS WELL.
THERE WERE ONLY THREE DEATHS IN THE SHELTER THIS LAST MONTH.
TWO KITTENS WERE EUTHANIZED FOR FAILURE TO THRIVE AND ONE KITTEN DIED, UH, WHICH IS ALSO DUE TO FAILURE TO THRIVE.
SO THESE ARE JUST KITTENS THAT WERE TOO YOUNG, MAY NOT HAVE HAD, MAY HAVE A UNDERLYING CONDITIONS THAT JUST DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO GET PAST, UM, PAST WHATEVER THEY MIGHT'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.
IN SUMMARY, THAT DOES PUT US AT A 97% LIVE RELEASE RATE FOR THE MONTH OF MAY.
A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR DOGS LEFT THE SHELTER ALIVE.
95% OF CATS LEFT ALIVE AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OTHER ANIMALS WERE, UM, LEFT ALIVE AS WELL.
68 DISPATCH FIELD ASSIGNMENTS, THAT MEANS 68 CALLS THAT OUR OFFICERS REPORTED TO.
WE DID INVESTIGATE FIVE DIFFERENT BY CASES.
THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SIX CRUELTY CRUELTY CASES INVESTIGATED.
ONE, UM, WHICH WAS A TWO WEEK ADOPTION EVENT FOR WHICH WE, WHICH GARNERED 12 ADOPTIONS.
THE SHELTER EVENT, WHICH HAD SIX ADOPTIONS IN HOLLYWOOD FEED WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ADOPTIONS.
THERE WERE FOUR OWNERS SURRENDER DENIALS AS WELL FOR THE MONTH OF THE MAY.
AND WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? NO, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SURRENDER DENIALS, UH, GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
ONCE WE CHANGE THE FEES ON THAT, YOU WANT IT TO GO UP OR DOWN? THE FEES ARE GONNA GO UP AND I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GONNA, THE SURRENDER DENIALS ARE GONNA GO DOWN.
WHY, WHY DO YOU WANT NOT WANT PEOPLE TO SURRENDER THEIR ANIMALS? IT'S BETTER THAN ME.
THAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO THOUGH, IS, I MEAN, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR ANIMAL? I MEAN THEY, I I BUT DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO KEEP AN ANIMAL? AND I'M NOT BEING ARGUING NO, I UNDERSTAND.
TO KEEP AN ANIMAL THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T REALLY WANT.
SO THE THING IS, IS THAT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS ON THAT 200, THEY'RE JUST GOING GO
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DUMP THE ANIMAL.AND IF IT'S A BREEDER, SO WHEN I WAS A KID, WE HAD, IT'S A DOUBLE.
WE HAD THE DOG CATCHER, WE HAD THE DOG CATCHER, AND WE HAD THE FIRE MARSHAL AND WE HAD THE MOSQUITO SPRAYER.
WE HAD ALL THESE THINGS AND, AND, AND, AND YOU WATCHED OUT WHEN THE DOG CAME.
IF YOU HAD TO YOUR DOG AND IT GOT LOOSE AND YOU SAW THE DOG CATCHER, YOU GRABBED YOUR DOG BECAUSE THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, UH, GRAB HIM IF NOT, AND WE HAD, WE HAD, WE HAD.
BUT OVERALL, UM, GREAT JOB, OMAR.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OMAR? I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
OMAR, THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR PATIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US AND WITH EVERYTHING.
AND WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, THAT AND, AND PLEASE, IN THESE ADOPTION EVENTS, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THOSE GOING.
UH, HELP THESE, THESE VOLUNTEERS HELP.
AND I KNOW YOU HELP, UH, CAROLYN AND SHE HELPS YOU.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THAT.
AND, AND WE GOTTA, WE JUST GOTTA KEEP ADOPTING OUT THESE ANIMALS BECAUSE WE GOTTA HAVE ROOM AND WE GOTTA MAINTAIN OR PLEDGE TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH WAS DON'T EUTHANIZE AS MANY ANIMALS AS POSSIBLE OR EUTHANIZE AS FEW AS POSSIBLE.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY? OKAY.
WHO WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? AND WE WANT ADJOURN IN.
ARE WE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES SIR.
OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE ADJOURN FOR THE EVENING.
MOTION MADE BY SCOTT, UH, MYSELF, SECONDED BY SCOTT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY PUSHING GREEN.
CONGRATULATIONS SCOTT, ON YOUR FIRST MEETING.
THEY'RE NOT USUALLY THIS LAW COURT.