Jun 30, 2026 City Council Special Meeting

IT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION, NOT A CRIMINAL CITATION.

THAT COULD BE UP TO $500 BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO, I WANT TO REPEAL.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE AND EVERYONE WAS P****D ABOUT IT.

SO, SO I HAD THE PRESENTATION THAT WE WENT OVER AT THE MAY WORKSHOP BEFORE IT WAS PASSED.

WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN, OR I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE CERTAIN AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

WHEN YOU SAY EVERYONE WHO, WHO'S EVERYONE? SOCIAL MEDIA.

WELL, THAT'S CONCLUSIVE THEN.

THAT'S EVERYONE.

YEP.

UM, WE JUST GOTTA KEEP THAT FROM, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD USE THAT AND, AND WEAPONIZE IT AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT.

ALRIGHT, WELL, SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER AND WE CAN REPEAL IT OR NOT REPEAL IT.

I, I DON'T THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT THAT OH, THEY'RE GONNA GET A TICKET AND IF SOMEBODY GETS A TICKET, OH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY $500.

SO I THINK IF SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT, AND AGAIN, WE CAN REPEAL, BUT SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT, IT'S GONNA BE LOOKED INTO, UM, IN OR MAYBE NOT LOOKED INTO.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS

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THAT AREN'T LOOKED INTO.

UH, THAT JUST PROVIDES A MECHANISM.

AGAIN, IF, IF, AND CHIEF, THIS WAS YOUR SUGGESTION.

SO ADDRESS RICHARD'S CONCERN, IF YOU WOULD, UH, UH, ABOUT, LEMME ASK YOU THIS.

ASIDE FROM ALL THE SUGARCOATING, IF I COME, IF WE, THE, A MONTH AGO WE HAD TWO NEIGHBORS IN HERE FIGHTING.

IF ONE NEIGHBOR CALLS ON THE OTHER ONE AND REPORTS FIREWORKS, WILL THAT PERSON BE ISSUED A TICKET? SO IT WOULD REQUIRE THE COMPLAINANT TO FILL OUT AN AFFIDAVIT, SIGN THEIR NAME TO IT BASED ON WHAT THEY SAW AND OBSERVED.

UH, IF THEY HAD ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT, WE WOULD REVIEW THAT.

BUT ULTIMATELY THE, THE DECISION TO SEND THAT ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION TO THE COURTS WOULD BE BASED ON EITHER A POLICE OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, REVIEWING THAT BEFORE IT GOT SENT.

SO, UH, OF COURSE THAT'S, SO THERE'S A REVIEWING PROCESS.

THE ONE THAT SUGGESTED THIS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE.

THAT'S SUGARCOATING THAT, THAT MEANS NO, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT SUGARCOATED INVESTIGATION.

THAT MEANS IF SOMEBODY MAKES A COMPLAINT THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA GET A TICKET.

THAT'S RIGHT.

JUST 'CAUSE IT'S NOT THAT HE SAID SHE SAID TYPE THING.

AND THAT'S HOW I THINK THE SOCIAL MEDIA TOOK IT.

THAT'S HOW THE RIDICULOUS MAINSTREAM MEDIA TOOK IT.

AND EVERYBODY BLOWS IT UP.

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, I TALKED WITH SOMEONE OFF OF J MEYER ROAD IN SEABURN CREEK WHERE THEY SHOOT GUNS AND DO ALL SORTS OF JUNK THERE OFF OF, UH, MEYER ROAD.

THEY WERE THRILLED.

AND I TOLD THE PERSON, I SAID, BECAUSE THEY GET NEIGHBORS WHO DO IT ALL THE TIME.

I SAID, HAVE VIDEO AND THEN YOU CAN SEND THAT VIDEO TO THE POLICE.

AND THAT'S ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT THEY WERE DOING IT.

HERE'S THE IN.

NOW IF WE WANNA ADD THE WORDING TO SAY YOU MUST SUBMIT ACTUAL VIDEO PROOF, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT WILLING TO REPEAL IT.

AND IT'S, AND I KNOW PEOPLE SAY IT'S OVER POLICING AND YADA YADA YADA.

BUT IF PEOPLE WOULD USE COMMON SENSE AND BE GOOD CITIZENS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE RIDICULOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

BUT I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA REPEAL IT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE INVESTIGATED.

UM, AND IF AND IF SOMEONE'S GONNA SWEAR THEIR NAME AND GO TO COURT AND HAVE TO SWEAR ON THE PENALTY OF PERJURY, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT UP JUST 'CAUSE THEY'RE MAD AT THEIR NEIGHBOR AND THAT WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL CASE.

IS THAT RIGHT GRADY? UH, YES MA'AM.

I THINK YOU MISSED TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD TWO NEIGHBORS IN THERE.

I WAS HERE, I WAS HERE.

AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.

LET ME ADD ONE OTHER THING.

AND I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS SPOT, SO, BUT I NEED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE LEGAL ADVICE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY SECTION, ONE OF THE ORDINANCE, IT REPEALS SECTION 11 DASH FOUR FIREWORKS OF CHAPTER 11.

NOW YOU'RE GONNA REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE.

WHEN YOU REPEAL AN ORDINANCE THAT REPEALS SOMETHING ELSE, IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REINSTATE MM-HMM .

SO YOU'LL GO INTO THE, THIS 4TH OF JULY WITH, WITH NO, WITH NO, WITH NOTHING, WITH NO PROHIBITION OF FIREWORKS AT ALL.

CORRECT? I JUST THINK SOME GOT SCARED BECAUSE OF ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA BS AND I HATE TO USE THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT IT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

PEOPLE GET WAY CARRIED AWAY.

THEY GET ALL OUTTA BEN OUTTA SHAPE.

AND BASICALLY THIS IS TWO DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I'VE SAID, IF PEOPLE WOULD BE COURTEOUS NEIGHBORS, IF THEY WOULD BE CONSCIOUS IF WE'RE REAL DRY, DON'T BE SHOOTING THINGS IN THE AIR.

BUT IF SOMEONE HAS PROOF, THE VIDEO IS, IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

THERE'S NO DENYING THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S JUST AN ACCUSATION, THEY'RE GONNA INVESTIGATE.

THEY COULD CHECK WITH SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WITH SOMEONE SHOOTING FIREWORKS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THE OTHER NIGHT.

WELL, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE AN INVESTIGATIVE TEAM TO DO THIS? THE POLICE AND PLAY AROUND WITH THIS? SO YOU GOT TASK NEW, THE OR NEW ORDINANCE DID ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT TO, TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT COMPONENT OF IT.

UM, BUT WE WOULD REVIEW THOSE AFFIDAVITS, UH, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME ON WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE SENT OVER AND WHAT WOULD NOT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD BE HANDLED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE, WE PRESENTED THE, TO ALLOW 'EM ON THOSE TWO NIGHTS THAT DID THAT, UH, DID NOT PASS THIS YEAR.

WE LOOKED AT WAYS TO STRENGTHEN, UH, THE ORDINANCE SO WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE, UH, THE FIREWORKS THAT ARE POPPED IN THE CITY BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S WIDESPREAD ON TWO NIGHTS OUT OF THE YEAR.

SO CAN I SAY THAT THIS IS VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING WE DO IS USUALLY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING LIKE FIREWORKS IS, UH, CITIZEN DRIVEN, CITIZEN COMPLAINT DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN COMPLAINT DRIVEN.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA ON THOSE NIGHTS ALSO SAYS, WHERE'S THE ENFORCEMENT? WHERE'S THE ENFORCEMENT? SO THE POLICE CHIEF IS SUGGESTING YOU'RE, YOU WERE

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THAT'S RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, OBVIOUSLY.

AND LET ME JUST SAY, BILLY, HANG ON AMANDA, PLEASE.

JUST A SECOND.

'CAUSE I'M TO MY POINT, THE LONG WAY AROUND, I'M SORRY, BUT THE POINT IS THE POLICE CHIEF IS SUGGESTING IT.

IT'S NOT.

UM, AND THESE FOLKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA RADIO STATION CALLED ME AND ASKED ME FOR A COMMENT, CAN ONE NEIGHBOR RAT OUT ANOTHER? I TOLD, I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT AS RATTING OUT.

A NEIGHBOR CAN CALL RIGHT NOW AND SAY, YOU'RE, UH, MY NEIGHBOR'S GRASS IS TOO TALL.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA GET A TICKET.

SOMEONE'S GONNA GO LOOK AT IT.

THE GRASS IS TOO TALL.

THEY MAY OR MAY NOT GET A TICKET.

MOST, MOST TICK MOST THINGS AROUND HERE GET WARNINGS FIRST.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING DONE TO CURTAIL PEOPLE FROM, UM, JUST ACTING LAWLESSLY ON, ON THESE TWO NIGHTS.

POPPING FIREWORKS WITH TOTAL IMPUNITY.

UM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF TURNING THE CITY INTO A POLICE STATE.

I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO THAT.

'CAUSE IF IT, IF I WAS, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT.

CHIEF CAN, I'M SORRY.

CAN SOMEONE REPORT THEIR NEIGHBOR FOR SPEEDING DOWN THE ROAD AND IF AN OFFICER DIDN'T SEE IT, CAN THEY BE ISSUED A TICKET? NO, THEY CAN REPORT IT.

WELL, WHY IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT? IT'S, IT'S NOT A CRIMINAL CITATION.

SO WHAT WOULD BE IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT HANDLED LIKE OTHER CRIMINAL CITATIONS, UH, THAT OCCUR IN THE PUBLIC ROADWAY.

NOW FOR FIREWORK VIOLATIONS OCCURRING ON THE PUBLIC ROADWAY OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC AREA OF THE CITY WILL HANDLE IT WITH A CRIMINAL CITATION.

THIS IS ONLY IN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

UM, SO IT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO ISSUE THAT BASED OFF OF WHAT WE SEE OR THE COMMUNITY TO REPORT THAT TO US AND LOOK INTO THE FACTS.

IF WE FELT THAT IT WAS NECESSARY, THEN WE WOULD, UH, SEND IT BASED OFF OF THE THIRD PARTY COMPLAINT.

AND IT WOULDN'T BE CASE BY CASE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ARE THE ONES WHO SHOOT THE FIREWORKS THAT THEY KNOW ARE ILLEGAL.

LET ME ALSO ADD ONE THING.

IN THE AGENDA ITEM, IT SAYS SEND AND REPEAL.

IF YOU DO ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BASICALLY HAVE NOTHING.

BUT IT ALSO SAYS OR AMEND.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO AMEND IT AND TAKE OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE JUST THE THIRD PARTY IS THE PART, IS THE TROUBLESOME PART.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS OKAY.

IF YOU WANT TO AMEND AND TAKE OUT 14 DASH 200, YOU CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CON CONCERN.

WHERE IS THAT? WHAT PAGE? IT'S GRADY.

THE THIRD ITEM ON THIS NEW RED LINE.

14 DASH 200, PAGE SEVEN ON THIS RED LINE.

WOULD THAT MAKE THE WHOLE UM, YES.

PREMISE OF WHAT I KNOW IT WOULD ADDRESS YOURS, BUT IT WOULD IT, WOULD IT MAKE THE WHOLE REASON HE DID THIS FOR NAUGH? NO.

'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER RED THERE THAT'S IN THERE.

CIVIL PENALTIES.

ITS JUST WE CAN STILL DO CITATION.

WE'RE JUST DOING, WHERE IS IT? 14 DASH 200.

ON WHAT PAGE? AT THE BOTTOM.

IF WE ELIMINATE THAT HUNDRED ON PAGE SIX, A CITATION TO BE ISSUED, BUT THE OFFICER WOULD'VE TO WITNESS WITNESS IT.

SEVEN.

ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.

ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.

EITHER THE POLICE OR ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE.

OKAY, SO THAT'S MY, IT'S NOT THERE.

THAT'S MY, IT'S IN YOUR CONCERN.

I'M OKAY WITH A POLICE OFFICER.

FIRE MARSHAL EMPLOYEE, CITY EMPLOYEE BEHIND TAB, AN IMPARTIAL EMPLOYEE WITNESSING IT AND ISSUING A TICKET.

BUT NOT A CITI JUST A RANDOM CITIZEN.

AND THAT'S, I'M NOT OKAY WITH THAT.

THIS WAS ON THE DATES.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, COULD IF WE DID REPEAL THIS WHOLE THING CAN, MAYBE NOT IN TIME FOR THIS 4TH OF JULY, BUT COULD WE PUT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS JUST TONIGHT TO THE OLD? UM, NO, THAT MEANS NOTHING.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE, IF YOU REPEAL YOUR REPEALING ORDINANCE, WHICH IT REPEALED IT IN THE FIRST SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, THEN THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REINSTATE.

SO IF YOU JUST REPEAL THE WHOLE THING, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BARE.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO STAND ON.

SO YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T REINSTATE THE OLD YOU CAN INSTRUCTIONS OF IT.

BUT WE CAN'T REINSTATE THE OLD ONE FROM NOT TONIGHT PAST LET TONIGHT THERE'S NO TIME.

SO WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION? I'LL HOLD ON.

LET, LET'S, UH, I LOST IT.

WELL, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? THANK YOU.

YEAH, LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE, STEVE, YOU YOU WANT TO TALK VISIT ABOUT IT?

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YOU HAVE CONCERN.

I MEAN, THE SAME AS RICHARD.

I HAVE A CONCERN TOO, THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE ABUSED.

AND IF IT WERE THEN I CERTAINLY, WELL, FROM THE WAY WHAT THE CHIEF SAID IT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

I I DON'T THINK IT COULD HAPPEN.

YEAH, I HAVE THE CONCERN.

I I WOULD HAVE A CONCERN IF IT DID HAPPEN.

WELL OF COURSE I DON'T LIKE THE IDEAL OF STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT EVERYTHING HERE IS HAS TO BE BALANCED.

THE THING IS, IS WE GET, WE GET, AS MEMBERS OF REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PUBLIC, WE GET THESE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CITY'S NOT DOING NOTHING.

WHERE ARE THE POLICE? WHY AREN'T THEY DOING THIS? WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING HERE? THEY'RE GONNA BURN DOWN OUR HOUSE.

THE, THE NEIGHBORS.

YEP.

FIREWORKS ARE LANDING IN MY GUTTER.

WE GET THOSE COMPLAINTS.

WHERE ARE THOSE FOLKS? WHERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS? WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE? WHAT DO YOU THINK? JUST TAKING OUT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JUST, UH, TAKING OUT THE THIRD PARTY PART AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING.

I MEAN, THAT'D PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

LET'S, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.

FELIX, YOU'RE NEXT.

I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

UM, THE ONLY ONE THING THAT I HAD, I HAD AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX CALLS, THEY CALLED ME CHIEF, IF YOU CAN JUST, UH, LET US KNOW.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING QUESTIONS.

IF IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT? THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT A CITATION, IT'S NOT A, UM, FINE, A FINE OR A CRIMINAL.

WHY SHOULD I PAY IT? THAT'LL JUST HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S WORKED OUT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A FINE THAT UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ISSUING A FINE FOR A REASON, BUT IT IS NOT A CRIMINAL.

FINE.

THEY'RE CORRECT THERE.

BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DO NOT PAY IT? I'M NOT SURE.

WE'D HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LEGALITY BEHIND THAT.

STUFF LIKE THAT GOES TO COLLECTIONS AND THEN THEY DETERMINE, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL COME AND ASK US AS A COUNSEL, HEY, WE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT DID THIS OR DID THAT AND Y'ALL HAVEN'T COLLECTED, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? AND THEN WE DETERMINED THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.

PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WELL IF IT'S NOT CRIMINAL, THEN WHY AM I GONNA PAY IT? THAT'S WHAT, WELL, YOU GET A FINE AND IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND YOU GET A FINE, YOU SHOULD PAY IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE RIGHT PERIOD.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE.

THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.

AND SOME PEOPLE I WOULDN'T PAY IT.

YOU KNOW, , THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WHAT ELSE CAN I REFUSE TO THINK? I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

, I'M A MEMBER OF HAR.

AS A REALTOR, THEY GIVE YOU A FINE, IF YOU SCREW UP ON YOUR LISTING, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A FINE.

IT'S NOT, THEY CAN'T COME AND ARREST ME.

BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT AS A MEMBER OF HAR, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO STAY ON THEIR GOOD GRACES, YOU PAY THE FINE.

I JUST THINK THIS IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION.

BUT NO, I DON'T KNOW.

I I JUST THINK THEY'RE MAKING WAY TOO MUCH OF THIS.

PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE ARRESTED.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE GIVEN $500 FINES BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBOR'S MAD AT 'EM, SAYS THEY WERE SHOOTING BLACK CATS.

THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION PROCESS.

UH, YEAH.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THE ONES WHO ARE COMPLAINING THE MOST ARE THE ONES WHO SHOOT THEM ME ILLEGALLY.

WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM OUR NEW MEMBER, SCOTT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN GOING INTO THIS WAS THE FACT THAT IN AMERICA, THE ACCUSED HAS HIS RIGHT TO FACE THEIR ACCUSER.

AND I THINK YOU'VE KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT.

I WOULD, IN YOUR OPENING SPEECH, UM, THERE'S AN AFFIDAVIT, THERE'S A PROCESS, AND IF IT COMES DOWN TO COURT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW UP.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO LET'S TAKE FOLKS THROUGH THAT.

LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DOES GET ONE OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE AND, AND OR SOMEBODY CAME AND SWORE OUT AND THEY DID AN AFFIDAVIT.

THEY, THE CITIZEN WOULD GET A TICKET.

UM, THEY'D SHOW UP TO COURT.

'CAUSE THEY SAY, HEY, I'M NOT PAYING THIS HONOR.

YOU GET A COURT DATE.

THEN YOU GO TO COURT AND SAY, WELL, WHO DID THIS? WELL, THIS PERSON SWORE IT OUT.

ALRIGHT, I WANT A TRIAL OR I WANT TO GET 'EM DOWN HERE.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACUTE TO UH, UH, FACE THE ACCUSER.

FACE THE ACCUSER.

AT THAT POINT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

NOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK THIS MOTION WILL ADDRESS Y'ALL, UH, WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR CONCERN.

IT'S NOT A COURT MAYOR.

HUH? IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT.

DOESN'T GO INTO A MUNICIPAL COURT.

ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.

THEY DO THE, THEY HAVE THE LITTLE MINI TRIAL AND THEN THEY CAN APPEAL IT TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

BUT AT THE, AT, AT THAT POINT, SOMEBODY, AT SOME POINT, THERE'S TWO OFFICER, THE ACCUSED WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO FACE THEIR ACCUSER.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKEY DOKE.

SO IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT? LET'S, UH, REPEAL THIS THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.

I THINK THAT WAS THE BIG RUB FROM PEOPLE.

I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

BUT, UH, LET'S SEE IF FOR THE MAJORITY OF OF US ARE, I THINK FOR NOW I AM RICHARD OR YOU? YES.

UM,

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SCOTT, ARE YOU, OR DO YOU WANNA LEAVE IT AS IS TODAY BASED ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I'M NOT SAYING MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO, UM, ADMINISTRATION SITE.

SO YES, SIR.

I CAN TOUCH ON THAT.

SO AHEAD PLEASE.

THIS, THIS WOULD ALLOW CITY STAFF, WHETHER IT BE A POLICE OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE THE CITATION.

WE WOULD'VE TO SEE IT AND ISSUE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.

IT WOULD NOT ALLOW YOUR NEIGHBOR TO REPORT IT.

IF, IF YOU RE APPEAL SECTION 14, 200.

WOULD THAT STILL BE HELPFUL? IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO, OKAY.

WE'LL WE WILL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO STEVE.

STEVE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH, UH, AMENDING AND REMOVING THIS THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION? I'M ALRIGHT.

FELIX? YES.

THAT'LL BE THE MOTION THEN.

GEORGE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? I SHOULD.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S BEEN ALRIGHT.

LET ME MAKE THE MOTION AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW IT WORKS THIS 4TH OF JULY.

AND IF NOT, AMANDA, WE CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS.

THIRD PARTY.

I WOULD MOVE THAT WE STRIKE FROM THE ORDINANCE SECTION 14 DASH 203RD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION.

AND WE NEED A, WE NEED A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES.

AND IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AND IT'S OKAY TO OPPOSE SAY NO OR PUSH RED.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TRY THAT.

SEE HOW IT GOES.

ONE THING WE SURE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE NO ORDINANCE IN EFFECT FOR SATURDAY OR ANY OTHER TIME.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

I GUESS I SHOULDN'T, I DON'T WANNA LECTURE PEOPLE, BUT CAN'T ALWAYS GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE THEY DON'T, ANYBODY ON SOCIAL MEDIA CAN COMMENT.

THEY DON'T LIVE HERE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET, THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

WHAT IS IT NOW? BOARDS AND COMMITTEES REVIEW AND DISCUSS.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[2. Review and discuss City of Rosenberg Boards, Committees and Commissions, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ]

UH, CITY OF ROSENBERG BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.

TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.

UM, AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILOR AMANDA BARTA CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, FUNCTION AND OPERATIONS OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.

DISCUSSION MAY INCLUDE BOARD COMPOSITION, MEETING FREQUENCY, ATTENDANCE RECORDS, APPOINTMENT PROCEDURES, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, AND OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

CITY COUNCIL MAY ALSO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ELIMINATION OF INACTIVE OR UNDERUTILIZED COMMITTEES, AS WELL AS THE POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATION OF COMMITTEES WITH OVERLAPPING PURPOSES OR RESPONSIBILITIES.

A SPREADSHEET WAS PROVIDED UNDER SEPARATE COVER OUTLINING THE CITY'S CURRENT BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING MEETING FREQUENCY AND MEMBER ATTENDANCE RECORDS FOR COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION.

AND I'LL NOW GO OVER, UM, A PRESENTATION.

SO THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS ANIMAL CONTROL, UH, SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS IT GIVES, UM, THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE MEETING ACTIVITY AND ATTENDANCE REVIEW.

AND ALL OF THESE, BY THE WAY, UM, ARE BASED ON JANUARY 25 TO PRESENT.

UM, SO I WENT THROUGH EACH COMMITTEE, UM, DETERMINED HOW MANY MEETINGS, UH, WERE POSTED, HOW MANY MEETINGS WERE CANCELED, THE AVERAGE MEMBER ATTENDANCE, TOTAL NUMBER OF CITIZEN MEMBERS, UM, TOTAL NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ON EACH COMMITTEE, AND IF THERE'S ANY VACANCIES.

SO YOU SEE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL THEY HAD SEVEN, THEY'VE CANCELED ZERO.

UM, THE AVERAGE THERE AND THERE'S FOUR.

THEY MEET QUARTERLY.

SO THERE'S UM, REALLY NO OPTIONS I'M CONSIDERING FOR THIS ONE.

UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS COMMITTEE? UM, CAN THE NEXT, CAN I, UH, STOP A SEC BECAUSE ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY COMMITTEE? THERE'S JUST, I THINK FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.

FIVE OF THEM? OR DO WE JUST WANT TO ASK, AMANDA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC? DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM? WELL, I MEAN, I CAN READ THEM HERE.

THE, AND THE REASON I ASK FOR THEM IS BECAUSE I KNOW STAFF SPENDS A LOT OF TIME PUTTING THESE MEETINGS TOGETHER.

UM, BESIDES PROBABLY THE RDC AND ANIMAL CONTROL, THE OTHER COMMITTEES AND PLANNING AND PLANNING, THE OTHER ONES HAVE PROBABLY, THEY'VE CANCELED MORE ABOUT HALF THE TIME.

MORE THAN HALF.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SEE COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS OF WHAT THE, THE, UH, STAFF CAME UP HERE WITH SUGGESTIONS.

MEMBERSHIPS, WE USED TO LOOK AT THEIR ATTENDANCE AND IF THEY'RE UNDER, YOU KNOW, 50%, THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE PUT BACK ON THE COMMITTEE AGAIN.

MAINLY ON THE PARKS AND THE IMAGE COMMITTEE THEY COUNSEL THE MOST BECAUSE PEOPLE EITHER DON'T SHOW UP OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS.

AND THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS ON HERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL THOUGHT BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF TIME AND PREPARATION AND, AND ALL THAT.

AND, AND IF, WHEN WE LOOK AT

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RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE.

NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS COUNCIL FEELS, BUT THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP JUST TO GET WHAT, SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT ON ESPECIALLY THE PARKS AND THE IMAGE BECAUSE THEY GET CANCELED A LOT.

AND AGAIN, WELL, I'M ON, IT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME.

I MEAN, I'M ON THE IMAGE COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, I MEAN, I DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS HERE FOR IMAGE.

UM, EITHER MOVE THE MEETINGS TO A QUARTERLY BASIS BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T MEET MONTHLY.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

UM, YOU CAN COMBINE IMAGE WITH THE PARKS, UM, BOARD COMBINING THEM MAY REDUCE RISK OF CANCELLATIONS DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM OR ATTENDANCE.

UM, PARKS, RECREATION AND CITY BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS ARE CLOSELY RELATED.

COMMUNITY PRIORITIES OR YOU DISSOLVE THE IMAGE COMMITTEE AND TRANSITION AWARDS PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPING AND RENOVATION AWARDS TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, DISSOLUTION WOULD ELIMINATE A COMMITTEE THAT MEETS INFREQUENTLY AND HAS LIMITED SCOPE, BUT ALSO MAINTAIN THE IMAGE BEAUTIFICATION AND RENOVATION AWARDS PROGRAM WHILE STREAMLINING THE PROCESS.

THIS PROVIDES COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH THE DIRECT ROLE IN RECOGNIZING COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS.

AND THEN FOR PLANNING, UM, KIND OF SIMILAR, YOU EITHER MOVE THE MEETINGS TO A QUARTERLY BASIS, UM, AGAIN, COMBINE IT WITH IMAGE COMMITTEE OR YOU DISSOLVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

UM, THOSE MATTERS WOULD BE REVIEWED DIRECTLY BY CITY COUNCIL.

REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STEPS IN THE RECOMMENDATION PROCESS.

STAFF CAN PRESENT PARK RELATED PROJECTS, POLICIES AND INITIATIVES DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL, POTENTIALLY REDUCING DUPLICATION AND DISCUSSIONS AND REVIEW FOR, I'M SORRY, WHICH COMMITTEE ARE YOU? PARKS, RIGHT? PARKS.

OH, PARKS.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID PLANNING.

DID I I THINK YOU DID IT BEGINNING, BUT YOU MEANT PARKS I BELIEVE.

OH, SORRY, I'M GOING OVER PARKS.

I APOLOGIZE.

UM, SORRY.

YOU DISSOLVED THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

UM, BECAUSE THE BOARD MEETS INFREQUENTLY AND HAS LIMITED ACTION ITEMS TO SOLUTION WOULD ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECTLY EVALUATE AND PRIORITIZE P PARKS PROJECTS.

PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. UM, AND THEN FOR PLANNING, I PUT THE INFORMATION THERE FOR PLANNING, BUT I'M, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT IS PER CHARTER AND THEY, THEY DO MEET, THEY VERY, VERY, VERY RARELY HAVE ANY MEETINGS CANCELED.

AND AGAIN, WITH RDC, UM, THERE'S REALLY NO SUGGESTIONS THERE.

UM, THE WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE TASK FORCE, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY ONLY MEET TWICE A YEAR.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BOARD.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO SUGGESTIONS, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.

AND THEN NEXT, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ONLY COMMITTEES, WHICH INCLUDE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, FINANCE AUDIT, THE HOT COMMITTEE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ENGINEERING PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UM, I'VE GIVEN YOU THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE FOR THOSE.

YOU CAN COMBINE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WITH FINANCE, DISSOLVE THE HAWK COMMITTEE AND DISSOLVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND I, I GIVE YOU THE, THE REASONS WHY LISTED THERE.

SO IT'S REALLY A COUNCIL DECISION.

AND THEN WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE WITH THESE COMMITTEES, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO TO APPOINT? 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME THAT NEED APPOINTMENT SOON BECAUSE THEIR TERMS ARE UP.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THIS TO GO OVER.

THE CURRENT, THIS WAS ABOUT TONIGHT ALSO.

WELL, IT, IT IS, BUT IT'S ALSO TO, TO DISCUSS THE COMMITTEES THAT JUST DON'T MEET AND, AND WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? YOU WANNA FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP AND THEN WE CAN GO OUT AND SEE WHO WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT.

WHAT DOES THAT APPLICATION PROCESS LIKE? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS SHE'S, SHE'S ALSO SUGGEST SUGGESTING SOME OF THEM NOT MAKE, HERE'S THE PROBLEM IS I, I MEAN, IF, IF A COMMITTEE'S MEETING IS CANCELED YEAH, THERE'S SOME WORK DONE PRIOR TO THAT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WORKED.

THE MEMBERS ARE VOLUNTEERS.

THE STAFF ARE NOT, THE MEMBERS ARE CITIZENS.

SOME OF THE STAFF ARE CITIZENS TOO.

ANYWAYS, UM, YEAH, WE GOT, WE GOT, WE GOT CITIZENS ON THERE AND I, I'M JUST NOT PREPARED TO CONSOLIDATE, TO TELL A LOT OF THESE FOLKS TO HIT THE ROAD.

UM, THAT THEY, THEY HELP A LOT OF THESE FOLKS AREN'T ATTENDING THE MEETINGS.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

HUH? A LOT OF THESE FOLKS AREN'T ATTENDING THE MEETINGS.

WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

I MEAN, IF THEY, WELL, IT'S NOT OKAY IF THEY, IT ISN'T.

I MEAN, AND IT WASTED TIME.

WITHOUT TIME.

WE HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMITTEES.

THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA COME.

THEY DON'T, WE DO THE AGENDAS.

WE DO ALL THE NECESSARY STEPS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE TO POST THE AGENDA.

UM, I'LL TAKE, UH, PARTIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO CANCEL AT THE LAST MINUTE.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WASTED TIME AFTER HOURS.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, AFTER BUSINESS HOURS THAT WE'RE CANCELING IT.

WELL, I'LL, I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF THE IMAGE COMMITTEE.

I'M THE CHAIR CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND I APOLOGIZE.

WE, WE WILL DO A BETTER JOB.

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I'VE BEEN BUSY, UM, THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS HELPING Y'ALL GET ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND HELPING MY, MYSELF GET ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO I WOULD URGE THIS COUNCIL TO, UM, NOT TO ABOLISH THE IMAGE COMMITTEE NOR TO CONSOLIDATE IT WITH ANY OTHER COMMITTEE.

'CAUSE IF WE DID, WE WOULD HAVE TWO COMMITTEES.

IF YOU DID PARKS AND YOU DID IMAGE COMMITTEE, THAT WOULD BE A COMMITTEE OF ABOUT 20, 25 PEOPLE, WHICH WOULD HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN CHARGE, IT'S LIKE HAVING NO ONE IN CHARGE.

SO I WOULD SAY NOT THAT BIG.

I WOULD SAY, UH, COULD WE CHANGE THE FREQUENCY THEN INSTEAD OF MEETING MONTHLY? SINCE IT'S SO HARD TO GET A QUORUM FOR BOTH COMMITTEES? CAN WE DO QUARTERLY TRY THAT? WELL, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE PARKS DEAL 'CAUSE I DON'T, I'M NOT ON THAT AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO PUSH ON THEM.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE CITIZENS AND, AND WE CAN LOOK AT STREAMLINING BOTH OF THESE, ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO ABOLISH, UH, OUR BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, AND AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL, UM, DO A BETTER JOB AT, UM, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY MOTIVATED AND KEEP EVERYBODY, UH, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERS THAT I CAN MAYOR, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY CONSOLIDATING.

UM, IT'S MORE LIKE TWO COMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, UM, RUNNING AT THE SAME DAY, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT WE CAN, I GUESS, UH, RUN THE, THE MEETING INSTEAD OF NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANYBODY AND THEN IT GETS CANCELED.

YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE IMAGE COMMITTEE, CORRECT? I AM.

SO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE IMAGE COMMITTEE? NO, I'M SAYING LIKE, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE TWO OF THE COMMITTEES ON ONE DAY AND PEOPLE CAN JUMP ON THE OTHER, UH, MEETING.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE.

NO.

AND I THINK SHE MEANT BY CONSOLIDATING, PUTTING 'EM BOTH TOGETHER.

OH, BOTH OF 'EM.

THAT'S WHAT SHE, I THINK THAT WHAT SHE'S DOING.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU CONSIDERING CONSOLIDATING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, IF, IF IT'LL HELP WITH, UM, I GUESS ATTENDANCE, WHY NOT? WELL, FOR THOSE THAT ARE A MEMBER OF A COMMITTEE, IF THEY CANNOT ATTEND AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.

THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST THING.

AND ALSO MY CONCERN IS THESE FOLKS ARE, ARE, ARE US WITH NOTWITHSTANDING, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED TO THESE COMMITTEES MM-HMM .

AND THEY ARE, UM, A LOT OF THEM LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO GET OFFENDED THAT, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE DOING BILLY, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU, WE DON'T WANNA OFFEND THEM, BUT WHEN THEY SIGN UP TO BE ON THESE COMMITTEES YEAH.

THEY, THEY MAKE A COMMITMENT AND WE ALL HAVE EMERGENCIES.

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU ATTEND LESS THAN 40% OF THE MEETINGS, I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WELL, I'VE ALREADY, MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE IN TERMS OF THE IMAGE COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST THE COMMITTEE.

I, I APOLOGIZE AND WE WILL TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB.

WELL, AND ALL YOUR MEMBERSHIPS HAVE OVER 50% ATTENDANCE.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

TOTALLY.

AND I, UH, I I, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE.

WE CAN'T, I APOLOGIZE.

AND WE, WE WILL TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB.

SO I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL HERE, DON'T MESS WITH THE IMAGE COMMITTEE AND LET'S JUST LEAVE THAT ONE.

WELL, WHAT DOES EVERYBODY THINK ABOUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? I SAY THE PARKS GUYS HERE.

THE PARKS BOARD.

I SEE.

WE DISSOLVE THAT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I'M READY TO DISSOLVE IT, BUT MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO MEET AS MUCH.

I THINK COME UP HERE QUARTER, I THINK QUARTERLY FOR THE PARKS BOARD WOULD BE GOOD.

WE NORMALLY GIVE A, UM, FINANCE REPORT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS OPINION.

HE'S THE DIRECTOR.

WHAT, I MEAN, MY CONCERN TO BRING IT EVENING WAS BECAUSE OF ALL THE, THE CANCELLATIONS WE COULD MEET QUARTERLY EVENING.

BECAUSE, UH, WITH THE LIMITED FUNDING OF ONLY THE PARKLANDS BEING USED CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A, A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT HAPPEN PER YEAR, WE COULD MEET QUARTERLY.

SO, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH PARKLAND MONEY HAS BEEN, UH, BROUGHT IN TO THE ACCOUNT.

AND WE CAN GO OVER THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE BASICALLY GO OVER MINUTES, THE PARKLAND FUND AND UPDATE, AND IN 10 MINUTES WE'RE OUT OF THERE.

THERE'S NOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THE FUNDING ISN'T THERE.

IT A LOT'S GOING ON, WE CAN ALWAYS INCREASE THAT IF WE NEED TO.

WELL, IF, AND SO YOU THINK QUARTERLY WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PARKS COMMITTEE WOULD BE ENOUGH? YES, I THINK SO.

AND IF NEXT YEAR, SAY WE, WE GET TONS OF MONEY,

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SO.

WELL, I MEAN, AND THAT'S THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP MAINLY, MAINLY WAS BECAUSE OF THE PARKS BEING, YOU KNOW, CANCELED SO MANY TIMES AND SOME MEMBERSHIPS NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS BEING THERE.

SO, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK QUARTERLY IS GOOD ENOUGH, THEN THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

HOW ARE THE, UM, HAS THIS COME UP AT THE PARKS BOARD ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND MAYBE MOVING MEETINGS QUARTERLY? NO, IT HAS NOT, HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING.

HAS ANYBODY SUGGESTED WE, UH, THE LAST FEW HAVE BEEN CANCELED? MM-HMM .

CAN I ASK YOU, WE CAN SUGGEST THAT WITH THE IMAGE COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS TO DO.

WHEN WE REAPPOINT, WHEN REAPPOINT WHEN WE REAPPOINT, WE CAN ASK THE MEMBERS.

I REALLY THINK THE MEMBERS SHOULD BE AFFORDED, UM, UH, UH, AN OPINION ON, ON THE ISSUE BEFORE THE COUNCIL ARBITRARILY SAYS THAT.

THAT'S JUST MY VIEW, BUT IT IS KIND OF A COUNT.

WELL, NOT KIND OF, IT COULD IT BOTTOM LINE, IT REST WITH THIS GROUP.

I GUESS A, UH, A COMMITTEE CAN MAKE AN OPINION OR A SUGGESTION AND THEN WE CAN RATIFY IT.

BUT WOULDN'T Y'ALL FEEL BETTER TO ONCE WE, UH, UH, APPOINT NEW MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE TO LET THEM HAVE A, UH, SAY IN THE MATTER? I DON'T WANT, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE, AT THE VERY BARE MINIMUM, WE MAKE IT QUARTERLY IF NOT DISSOLVED.

IT'S REALLY NOT THEIR DECISION.

UM, WHAT, WHAT THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW A NICE WAY TO ASK THIS, BUT WHAT, WHAT DO THEY, WHAT DO Y'ALL DO? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE COMMITTEE, WHAT DO THEY PROVIDE YOU WITH? I MEAN, DO THEY HELP YOU OR JUST GET IN YOUR WAY? SO, AND I, I DON'T MEAN THIS, THAT SOUND RUDE TO THE COMMITTEE, BRENDA.

UH, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE WE DISCUSSED IN THE GROUP ABOUT THE, UH, VENDOR SLOTS AT THE SPLASH PAD.

THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

A RECOMMENDATION OF THE FEE, AND IT CAME TO COUNCIL AND THEN Y'ALL OVERWROTE IT AND PUT WHAT Y'ALL WANTED IN, IN IT.

ANYWAY, SO OKAY, THERE'S MY ANSWER.

UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

AND THEN IT, AND AFTER THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY LOST INTEREST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T BEING VALUED.

AND OUTTA 18 MEETINGS.

WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO PUT IT.

BUT OUTTA 18 MEETINGS, 11 WERE CANCELED.

18TH MEETINGS POSTED.

18, THE LAST 18 MONTHS MEETINGS CANCELED.

11, NO, 18 MEETINGS.

IT GOES TO WHAT HE SAID.

MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THEY DIDN'T FEEL APPRECIATED AND SO RIGHT.

AND THEY JUST KIND OF FELT, YEAH.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE MEETINGS, IT'S, IT'S 10 MINUTES LONG, SO IT TAKES THEM LONGER TO DRIVE TO THE MEETING THAN WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE TO COVER.

WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK GOING TO QUARTERLY MAYBE THIS YEAR TO SEE HOW IT WORKS IS, IS, WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

SO JUST WHATEVER Y'ALL THINK IT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TO COVER THAT.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE A A, UH, SOMETHING COME UP, LIKE THE FEES, YOU WOULD WAIT THREE MONTHS TO, TO DECIDE THAT.

AND THEN IF THAT MEETING DOESN'T MAKE NOW, THEN YOU GOTTA WAIT ANOTHER THREE MONTHS.

HE COULD ALWAYS CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.

IF IT WAS SOMETHING, THEN YOU'VE GOT SIX MONTHS.

OR THE COUNCIL CAN DO IT ARBITRARILY.

THESE ARE COUNCIL COMMITTEES, THESE ARE CITIZEN COUNCIL COMMITTEES.

THEY SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.

I DON'T, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M GONNA TURN THAT AIR DOWN, BUT I'M SURE THIS IS A, I DON'T HOW THIS EVEN CAME UP TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WELL, I BROUGHT IT UP.

WELL, I HAD A QUESTION.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEES AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT WE CANNOT MEET, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

PARKS AND IMAGE.

THAT'S OUR PROBLEM.

CHILDS AND YEAH.

AND IF WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET, THEN WHY HAVE THEM? IMAGE COMMITTEE DOESN'T QUARTERLY ANY OF OUR'S.

NOT THAT BIG A DEAL TO MOVE TO QUARTERLY.

I MEAN, IMAGE, I'VE ALWAYS HARD, I'VE ALWAYS, OUR EVENTS AT THE, I'VE FALLEN CHILD ANYWAYS.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AT THE FOURTH.

I MEAN, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE PERSONAL COMMITTEE SAYING THAT'S FINE FOR NOW.

IT GIVES AWARDS.

ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S HEAR WHAT OUR NEW MEMBER HAS TO SAY, SCOTT.

I'M SEEING ROUGHLY HALF OF THESE MEETINGS BEING CANCELED IN THESE TWO COMMITTEES AND, UM, I SEE IT AS A WASTE OF STAFF'S TIME.

UM, I'M, I'M LEANING TOWARDS QUARTERLY.

LET'S GO TO STEVE.

I'M LEANING TOWARD QUARTERLY AND, AND I DON'T WANNA REALLY ABOLISH ANY OF THESE, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LONG TIME RESIDENTS THEY FEEL CONNECTED TO, TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY WANNA HELP.

AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM 'EM.

SO IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE TO KNOCK IT DOWN THE QUARTERLY DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S HOW WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO WELL, JUST FOR THE PARK, SO.

WELL FOR THE ONES THAT NEED IT, YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE TO.

UH, I MEAN, ANOTHER THING YOU COULD DO TOO IS WHEN THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATIONS, WE COULD LET 'EM KNOW, HEY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO START MAKING THESE MEETINGS OR DON'T BOTHER TO SIGN UP.

TAKE, LIKE WHAT HE WAS SAYING, WE SHOULD TAKE THEIR SUGGESTIONS A LITTLE MORE SERIOUSLY.

OR I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD

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IF THEY WANNA SET A FEE FOR SOMETHING, LET'S NOT QUESTION IT AND JUST DO IT.

I MEAN, WE, WE CAN SAY THAT, BUT IN TWO YEARS THIS WHOLE BOARD'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

SO, UH, FELIX, WELL WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THE, LET'S JUST DISCUSS PARKS BOARD.

YOU WANTED TO MEET QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY? UH, QUARTERLY'S.

FINE.

RICHARD? QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY? QUARTERLY OR DISSOLVE? DISSOLVE.

UM, RICHARD QUARTERLY.

I MEAN, UH, GEORGE, UM, QUARTERLY'S FINE.

AMANDA, QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY? QUARTERLY FOR THE PARKS.

QUARTERLY FOR THE PARKS.

TONIGHT IS NO ACTION NIGHT ANYWAY.

OR IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING.

WE CAN TAKE ACTION.

ANYBODY WANNA MAKE THAT IN A FORMAL MOTION OR DO WE JUST WANNA SEND IT OUT AS A POLICY? YOU WANT FORMAL ACTION FOR THE RECORD? WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED FORMAL, WE DON'T LEAVE FORMAL ACTION JUST DIRECTION.

SO, WE'LL, WE ARE AGREED.

THEN WE'LL LEAVE THE IMAGE COMMITTEE THE SAME.

I'LL DO THE, I'LL DO MY BEST TO KEEP EVERYBODY GOING ON THAT.

CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM THE IMAGE COMMITTEE THEN? CAN WE GET 'EM OUT TO HELP PARTICIPATE IN STUFF? YES.

AND, AND I'LL INCLUDE MY MYSELF IN THAT.

WE'LL, WE'LL TRY, WE'LL TRY OUR BEST.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS IS HELPING A, A RELATIVE ANYWAYS.

AND, AND MAYBE WHEN WE PUT SOME APPLICATIONS OUT, MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME, SOME MORE INVOLVEMENT, BETTER INVOLVEMENT.

WE'LL SEE.

ARE WE OKAY ON, UH, DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES? DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, DANIELLE? ANY OTHER COMMITTEES? WELL, I HAVE A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS.

WELL, NO, I MEANT OTHER COMMITTEE SUGGESTIONS.

YEAH, THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES.

SO WHAT IS THE STAFF'S? WE'LL CUT TO THE CHASE.

WHICH COMMITTEE DO Y'ALL WANT TO DISCUSS? THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE? WELL, WE HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS.

FINANCE, AUDIT, HOT COMMITTEE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT US TO PICK THE MEMBER TONIGHT OF THE COUNCIL? THAT'S, NO, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY APPOINTMENTS.

THESE ARE OPTIONS OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THEM? OH, OKAY.

I'M ON THE, I'M ON THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO, I SAY ABOLISH THAT AT THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND THE FINANCE AUDIT, WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, THERE YOU GO.

IT WAS AN IDEA OF DO WE COMBINE 'EM, UM, COMBINE THEM.

THEY SHOULD EAT.

THEY SHOULD MEET ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS.

WELL, IT, THEY MEET AS NEEDED BECAUSE THEIR SPECIAL TIMES OF THE YEAR, UM, LIKE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS HAS TO MEET WHEN IT'S TIME TO, UM, DO INSURANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OR, OR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS TO MEET WHEN WE HAVE THE AUDIT REPORT.

SO THEY MEET AS NEEDED, USUALLY TWO TO THREE TIMES A YEAR.

FOUR AT THE MOST.

BUT YOU WANNA COMBINE THEM.

WE DON'T HAVE TO COMBINE THEM.

THAT'S A THOUGHT.

I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE, UM, WHEN COUNCIL WAS APPOINTING TO THESE COMMITTEES OR THE YEAR BEFORE, ACTUALLY NO ONE WANTED TO BE ON 'EM.

SO WE ONLY HAD TWO MEMBERS.

AND THEN THAT WAS AN ISSUE BECAUSE IF ONE COULDN'T MAKE IT, WE COULDN'T MEET.

SO WE DID INCREASE 'EM BACK TO THREE MEMBERS EACH LAST YEAR.

UM, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PARTICIPATION, IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO KEEP 'EM SEPARATE.

UM, BUT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS THAT WANNA BE ON THESE COMMITTEES, UM, I JUST THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND THE FINANCE.

AND THE HOT, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO APPOINT, UM, IF THE BUDGET GOES THROUGH AS IS BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE HOT FUNDS TO DISTRIBUTE.

WHY WON'T WE? BECAUSE LAST YEAR, WHERE ARE THEY BEING DISTRIBUTED TO? WE DISCUSSED IT LAST YEAR AND WE CUT IT IN HALF AND YOU HAD ASKED US WHY WE DIDN'T CUT IT COMPLETELY AND WE SAID WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT NEXT YEAR.

SO OKAY.

OUR PROPOSED BUDGET HAS THAT PROGRAM CUT, BUT THE COUNCIL CHANGES THAT THEN WE NEED TO THAT'S RIGHT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND GIVE THIS COUNCIL.

WE GOT TWO NEW MEMBERS.

WE'RE MAKING, THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN THERE MAKING DECISIONS, JUST THROWING A BUNCH OF, WE DON'T, WE'VE NEVER DEALT WITH THEM.

BUT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN APPOINT THAT COMMITTEE WHEN NEEDED.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT BECAUSE IF NO NEED, IF THERE, IF THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THAT ITEM FOR THE CORRECT, WE CAN DO IT IF NEEDED.

AND THEN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, I MEAN, I, I CAN LET EVEN COUNSEL SPEAK ON THAT.

I KNOW RICHARD'S BEEN ON THAT.

AND, UM, MR. ZAPETA.

SO WE TYPICALLY WILL TAKE, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE TYPES, THINGS LIKE SELECTING ENGINEERS, UM, AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO THAT COMMITTEE.

UM, LAST YEAR WE KIND OF HAD ONE MEETING WHERE WE, WE DID A RESOLUTION TO, TO MAKE A LIST OF APPROVED ENGINEERS AND, AND OTHER TYPES OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

UM, AND WE SELECTED MOST OF THEM AT THAT ONE MEETING.

SO I THINK THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY.

I MEAN, THAT ALL COMES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

UM, IT, WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY IS

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WE, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE CONTRACTORS.

SO WE'RE JUST TAKING WILD GUESSES.

I MEAN THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN CON CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.

AND IT NEEDS TO COME OUT HERE TO HERE.

SO WE'RE TAKING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON EVERY ITEM.

SO THERE'S NO POINT IN HAVING THE COMMITTEES IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

PROFESSIONAL.

WELL THEN JUST HAVE, HAVE IT COME DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING ON THAT ONE.

THAT THAT'S FINE.

ON THE EMPLOYEE FINANCE AUDIT, DO YOU, CAN WE MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER TO COMBINE OR NOT AFTER WE DO THE ASSIGNMENTS AFTER THE COMMITTEE? WELL, I MEAN, I WAS THINKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE ENOUGH OF COUNCIL THAT WENT TO PROVIDE IT.

I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY BEST TO KEEP THOSE SEPARATE.

UM, UM, YEAH, IF IT'S THE SAME.

YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN OKAY.

IN BEING ON THESE COMMITTEES.

WHICH ONE WAS THAT? EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND FINANCE AUDIT.

OH, I, I WANNA STAY ON THAT.

ON BOTH.

WELL, I MEAN THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T, SOUNDS BORING.

OTHER ONE SOUNDS BORING.

ARE YOU ABLE TO WHAT? FINANCE IS BORING.

I COME TO EVERY ONE OF THEM.

HAVE I EVER MISSED ANY OF THESE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

I'VE NEVER MISSED ONE.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE ONLY HAD TWO MEMBERS, LIKE IF ONE OF YOU COULDN'T COME, THEN WE WOULD'VE HAD TO YEAH, RIGHT.

WE HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH TWO MEMBERS.

WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET, I MIGHT HAVE SOME INTEREST.

SO WE PREFER THREE.

WELL WE HAVE A NEW GUY WHO HAS INTEREST.

AMANDA MIGHT HAVE.

I'M SURE MS. BARTA'S ALSO INTERESTED.

SO WE CAN, WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE, OKAY.

WELL WE CAN LEAVE THOSE.

THE COUNCIL MAY UP THEIR GAME.

THIS COUNCIL, WE CAN LEAVE THAT SEPARATE.

AND, UM, IF WE, IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE DISSOLVING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND DON'T HAVE TO POINT A HOT NOW, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH INTEREST IN EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND FINANCE.

I, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH YOU COMBINING 'EM BECAUSE I HEARD A WHILE BACK YOU HAD ACTUALLY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND, AND I REMEMBER YOU DID AT ONE, ONE MEETING BECAUSE IT, IT INVOLVED THE, UM, SALARIES AND IT WAS ALSO GONNA AFFECT THE BUDGET.

SO RIGHT WHEN, AND THAT WAS WHEN WE ONLY HAD TWO MEMBERS PER COMMITTEE.

SO WE COMBINED, WE HAD A COMBINED MEETING, UM, SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE AND NOT JUST TWO.

AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME, SOME, UM, SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.

SO WHAT WOULD IT BE? WOULD YOU STILL WANNA COMBINE THEM BOTH AND HAVE THREE MEMBERS ON THERE? WE COULD.

WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS.

'CAUSE THEN WE HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNSEL, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THREE MEMBERS.

ALL RIGHT.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY? AGREEABLE TO THAT? YEP.

ANY OBJECTIONS? OKIE DO.

UM, THE NEXT THING I NEED FROM COUNSEL IS THE, UM, APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND HOW DO Y'ALL WANT TO HANDLE THAT SO WE CAN START TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES? WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? DO YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE ADVERTISING AND I MEAN, HOW DO WE, I MEAN THE, THE TYPICAL, UM, THING THAT I DO IS WE POST IT IN THE PAPER OVER SEVERAL, UM, SUNDAYS, WHICH IS, I MEAN, IT'S CAN BE EXPENSIVE.

WE, UH, PUSH IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT.

I GET ALL THESE APPLICATIONS IN AND WE SEND 'EM TO Y'ALL.

AND THEN YOU SIT UP HERE AND YOU JUST KIND OF PICK PEOPLE.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES YOU THROW OUT NAMES THAT WE DIDN'T GET AN APPLICATION FOR AND THEN I HAVE TO GO BACK AND THEN THERE'S BACKGROUND CHECKS AND WE HAVE, IT'S, IT'S A BIG PROCESS.

IS THERE ANYTHING, CAN YOU DO THE WHOLE THING ON THE CITY WEBSITE? THEY CAN DO THE APPLICATION ON THE WEBSITE.

WHAT ABOUT THE ADVERTISING? IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE PAPER.

NO, BUT WE JUST, WE'VE ALWAYS POSTED IT IN THE PAPER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

UM, AND THEN TANYA ALSO DOES IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA FOR US.

SHE, SHE DOES A BIG PUSH THROUGHOUT, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS, OVER A COUPLE WEEKS.

AND I'D SAY WE DO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE.

DO IT, DO IT WITHOUT THE NEWSPAPER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT COSTS MONEY.

UM, THE APPLICATION RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY TWO PAGES.

SO WE COULD LOOK AT STREAMLINING THAT JUST DOWN TO ONE.

AND THEN DO YOU WANT US TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS? DO YOU EVEN WANT APPLICATIONS? DO Y'ALL HAVE PEOPLE IN MIND THAT YOU WANNA APPOINT? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, WE CAN GO OUT AND TRY TO RECRUIT SOME FOLKS INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN THAT REGARD.

WE CAN GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT WE SHOULD APPROACH FOLKS THAT WE KNOW.

IN JULY WOULD BE THE SOONEST, WHAT IS THAT? THE 16TH, 21ST.

IF THEY WANT TO.

THEY STILL SHOULD FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

THEY SHOULD FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND YES, THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK.

IF THE, IF THE GROUP SO REQUIRES, WHAT'S THE SOONEST WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO START PICKING PEOPLE AND UM, GET 'EM ALL SORTED OUT.

THE SECOND MEETING

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JULY 21ST, SORRY.

HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND ALL THAT STARTED MY HOW WELL RICHARD WOULD Y'ALL, WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE THAT, UH, JUST LEAVE THE COMMITTEES INTACT THAT ARE HERE, THE MEMBERS AND AS WE GET MEMBERS, AS WE, UH, INSTEAD OF CLEARING THE DECK AS WE GET MEMBERS, WE CAN, WE CAN ADD 'EM OR, WELL, HOW WOULD THEY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, HOW YOU GET MEMBERS WITHOUT LOOKING FOR 'EM.

HOW, HOW YOU GET MEMBERS WITHOUT WHAT YOU AREN THEIR TERM.

YOU WOULD ASK THEM WHICH TERMS ARE UP.

YOU WOULD WELL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, ALL THE PLANNING IS UP.

WE NEED KNOW WHICH TERMS ARE UP BEFORE WE START PLANNING PEOPLE.

THERE'S TWO ON RDC THAT, UM, ARE UP AND THEN I THINK PARKS AND IMAGE COMMITTEE.

UM, I HAVE THE LIST RIGHT HERE.

WHAT NEED THOSE, THOSE COMMITTEES NEED TO BE ADVERTISED, HOWEVER WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

THE, AND APPLICATIONS.

AND IF SOMEBODY WHOSE TERM IS UP, THEY WANNA REAPPLY, THEN THEY CAN REAPPLY.

UM, ALL OF ANIMAL CONTROL, THEY'RE UP THIS YEAR.

UM, IMAGE COMMITTEE.

LET'S, IF THE PLANNING COMMITTEE IS UP, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT ONE? UM, IMAGE COMMITTEE IS, UM, SERVING A TWO YEAR TERM.

THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TERM.

SO ALL THE IMAGE COMMITTEE PEOPLE, ALL IMAGE COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, THEY'RE NOT UP THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE NOT UP THIS YEAR AGENDA.

SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO'S UP THIS YEAR.

HOW MANY ON EACH COMMITTEE? OKAY.

WHO'S UP BEFORE WE START? SHE SAID YOU'RE NOT.

I'M NOT.

BUT THEY, I MEAN THE PROBLEM IS, IS, UM, IN 24 Y'ALL SET A TWO YEAR TERM LIMIT FOR ALL.

WELL THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CAUGHT UP.

Y'ALL STILL WANTED TO BRING A BUNCH OF THESE BACK LAST YEAR.

SO THEY ALL GOT REAPPOINTED.

SO THEY EITHER NEED TO SERVE THEIR TWO YEAR TERM OR YOU PUT 'EM BACK ON A ONE YEAR TERM.

SO Y'ALL HAVE TO REAPPOINT EVERY YEAR.

SO SOME OF THESE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TWO YEAR TERM.

TERM.

THERE ARE TERMS YOU LEAVE, THEIR TERMS ARE UP, LIKE PLANNING.

THERE'S TWO ON RDC.

UM, ANIMAL CONTROL, UM, IS UP.

SO LEMME SEE.

WELL, WHAT ITEM ARE WE ON? THE ONES THAT ARE UP? WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE AND GO WITH THAT.

JUST FOR THE ONES THAT ARE UP.

IF THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TERM, WE DON'T WANNA TAKE SOMEBODY OUTTA THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TERM.

SO LEAVE THOSE THAT ARE NOT UP.

YES, YES.

WELL IT DOESN'T BOTHER.

WELL, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE PREFERRED THING TO, TO CHANGE SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TERM.

NO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, UP TO US IS A, IS A, YEAH.

I PREFER TO LEAVE MOST INTACT.

UM, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT WANTED TO CHANGE SOME FOLKS OUT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

CAN WE DO THAT TONIGHT? NO, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA POINT BECAUSE THEY ARE UH, AND HOW ABOUT ON THE RDC? IS THAT NEXT MONTH'S? NEXT WEEK'S? NO SIR.

THE ONLY REQUEST FOR NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THAT, THAT AGENDA'S ALREADY BEEN POSTED? YEAH.

SO EVENTUALLY PROBABLY WE SHOULD, UH, DO AN AGENDA ITEM, LIST ALL THE COMMITTEES.

THAT WAY ANYBODY CAN ADD OR JUST RATIFY WHAT, WHO WE WANT.

WE CAN GET THE LIST FROM YOU AND THEY CAN GO THROUGH AND SAY WHO WE WANT AND, AND, AND MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT GROUP AS A, AS A GROUP.

AND, AND IF THERE, THERE MAY BE SOMEONE THAT THEY DON'T WISH TO NOMINATE.

THAT WAY YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T SINGLE PEOPLE OUT AND SAY AND EMBARRASS 'EM 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON, YOU KNOW, A, B, C, D, E, THIS IS WHO I'M, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN AS WE MEET PEOPLE OR WE, UH, ASK PEOPLE IF THEY'D LIKE TO JOIN, THEY CAN COME AND DO AN APPLICATION.

IF THEY PASS THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

OUCH.

THEN WE CAN ADD 'EM.

HOW'S THAT SOUND? WELL, I MEAN THAT SOUND OKAY, I'M CONFUSED.

ARE ARE WE GETTING APPLICATIONS? YES, WE'RE GETTING APPLICATIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UP THE TERMS THAT ARE UP THIS YEAR.

NOT THE ONES THAT GO TO 2027, WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL.

ONLY THE P TERMS THAT ARE UP.

WE GET APPLIC AND IF WE KNOW SOMEBODY SAY, HEY, YOU'D BE GREAT ON THIS COMMITTEE, TELL 'EM TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

YEAH, BUT YOU'RE SAYING HE'S SAYING DO A BLOCK VOTE AND NOT SAY I'M VOTING FOR SO AND SO TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE BUT NOT, YOU KNOW.

WELL, IT WOULD TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY.

IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE WHOEVER MAKES A MOTION THE WAY THEY WANT TO.

WELL, HOWEVER THEY WANNA DO IT HOWEVER THEY WANT TO OUT.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO, DO A BLOCK SOMETIMES PENDING.

UH, WELL THAT'S ACTUALLY THE KIND OF ONE OF THE BEST WAY OF DOING IT.

NO, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HURT.

YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT DOING AN INDIVIDUAL BY INDIVIDUAL.

NO.

THAT CAN BE EMBARRASSING AND HURTFUL AND UNNECESSARY.

SO, SO TO CLARIFY, WE WILL START ADVERTISING AND POSTING, UM, FOR APPLICATIONS NOT

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IN THE PAPER.

NOT ING SOCIAL WELL, SOCIAL MEDIA.

SHE MEANS POSTING, UM, PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS.

HAVE THE APPLICATION AVAILABLE ONLINE.

WE'LL ACCEPT THOSE APPLICATIONS THROUGH, SOMETIMES THROUGH THE WEEK OF THE 13TH SO THAT WE CAN GET Y'ALL THOSE, UM, FOR THE 21ST AGENDA.

AND ALL OF THE COMMITTEES WILL BE ON THE JULY 21ST AGENDA EXCEPT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WAS ASKED FOR AND IS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

THEREFORE Y'ALL WILL NOT HAVE APPLICATIONS, UM, IN TIME FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, AND Y'ALL WILL NEED TO I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

UM, BUT THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK.

AND HOW MANY CURRENT MEMBERS, HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE ON PLANNING COMMISSION? SIX OR SEVEN? SEVEN.

SEVEN.

THEY'RE ALL UP SIX CITIZENS.

SO WE ONLY NEED TO APPOINT FOUR OUT OF THAT TO, TO DO, I'M SORRY, IT'S SIX MEMBERS.

THERE'S SIX IS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHICH TOTAL MAKES SEVEN.

BUT THEY CAN'T FOLD, SO I DON'T COUNT AND THEY'RE ALL THAT.

SO ANYWAYS, UM, YEAH, BUT SO THE REASON I MENTION THIS IS SHORT NOTICE TO FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR ANY, ANYBODY THAT WOULD NOT BE REAPPOINTED.

SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE COUNSEL UNDER STRESS AND PRESSURE.

AND, AND, AND SO WE ONLY TO, TO FUNCTION AS A BOARD.

THEY ONLY ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS ON.

WHICH ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OH YEAH.

UM, WHAT, WHEN DOES THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEET THEIR NEXT MEETING IS, WHAT WAS THIS? JULY 15TH? I MEAN, DID THEY MEET ON, IS IT A WEDNESDAY? OH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT WHAT TIME? SIX.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS BY CHARTER, IT SAYS THEY MAY APPOINT A CITY PLANNING COMMISSION CONSISTING OF SEVEN MEMBERS AND UP TO TWO EX OFFICIO MEMBERS WHO SHALL BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, SHALL SERVE WITHOUT COMPENSATION AND SHALL NOT HOLD ANY OTHER POSITION IN CITY GOVERNMENT.

OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY SPECIAL TASK FORCE OR TEMPORARY COMMITTEE.

WELL, WE HAVE OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE.

THANK GOODNESS HE IS WILLING TO SERVE AND, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY HE'LL BE WILLING AGAIN TO SERVE.

SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET AT LEAST FOUR FOUR MEMBERS.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF Y'ALL KNOW ANYBODY, UH, GET THEIR NAME AND NUMBER AND THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS.

WELL, IT'D BE BETTER IF YOU, SO WE NEED MORE THAN FOUR BECAUSE WE'VE RUN INTO QUORUM ISSUES.

ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

WE'RE WORKING ON UPDATING THE UDC AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS.

VERY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.

THINK WE PREFER SEVEN.

WELL, THE SEVENTH ALL COUNCIL MEMBER, I MEAN, I'VE REVIEWED THE PAST COUPLE OF MINUTES AND THERE'S TWO OR THREE THAT'S BEEN ABSENT.

ABSENT.

THE, I THINK WE CHA THE CHARTER WAS CHANGED TO ADD ANOTHER VOTING MEMBER.

IT IS, IT'S, THEY APPOINT UP TO SEVEN.

IT SAYS MAY APPOINT SEVEN MEMBERS AND TWO EX OFFICIO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO REALLY WE COULD USE, SO IT CAN BE SEVEN.

YEAH, WE, WE NEED THREE OR FOUR APPLICANTS.

THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE.

THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT.

THERE'S NO TIME FOR APPLICATIONS, CORRECT? NO TIME FOR APPLICATIONS FOR NEXT WEEK.

IF SOMEONE APPROACHES US THAT WANTS TO DO IT, SHOULD WE TELL THEM TO CALL THE Y'ALL TO SIGN UP OR WE JUST TALK ABOUT THEM NEXT WEEK? I THINK Y'ALL JUST BRING THEIR NAME FORWARD.

I CAN GET AN APPLICATION LATER AND THEN DO BACKGROUND CHECK AFTER THE FILE.

ANY OTHER, UM, DANIELLE OR ANYBODY, ANYBODY FROM THE STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO US ABOUT THE COMMITTEES OR ANY CLARIFICATION? OKAY.

SO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM

[3. Hold Executive Session to consult with city attorney to seek legal advice regarding pending or contemplated litigation pursuant to Sec. 551.071 of the Texas Government Code. ]

NUMBER THREE.

Y'ALL OKAY FOR ME TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES.

ANYBODY DOWN HERE? NO.

HOLD EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PENDING OR CONTEMPLATING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

SOMEBODY MAKE THE MOTION PLEASE.

SO MOVED.

ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

JESSICA.

IT SAYS JESSICA.

IT SAYS MOTION BY JESSICA.

IT SAYS ON MY, IT SAYS JESSICA.

MINE SAYS JESSICA.

WELL, WE KNOW IT WAS AMANDA.

SHE MADE THE MOTION.

I SECOND IT ALL.

SEE HOW ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES OR PUSH GREEN.

EVERYBODY? AMANDA, YOU GONNA VOTE? I ALRIGHT.

MOTION PASSED.

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NUMBER FOUR, ADJOURN EXECUTIVE SESSION, RECONVENE, SPECIAL SESSION AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

YOU WANT ITEM

[4. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Special Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session. ]

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ACTION TO TAKE.

WE WERE MOSTLY JUST POW WOWING.

SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN ADJOURN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND MOTION MADE BY STEVE TO ADJOURN.

SECOND BY HECTOR.

HECTOR AND ALL THOSE IN, NOT BY HECTOR.

BY WHO? STEVE.

I THINK THIS THING HAS A MIND OF IT.

SCOTT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN.