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[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ]
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK.IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, YOU COULD SIGN UP WITH DANIELLE.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT ALREADY SIGNED UP? ALRIGHT.
IF NOT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW AT 6:30 PM ON TUESDAY, JULY 7TH.
IS THERE, WE GOT ANYBODY HERE TO DO THE PLEDGE AND THE INDICATION? PASTOR GEORGE ORIGINAL.
THANK YOU, PASTOR ORIGINAL, IF YOU WOULD BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME.
OUR HOLY FATHER, LORD JESUS CHRIST.
AND HOLY SPIRIT, WE COME BEFORE YOU.
MIGHTY THRONE OF GRACE OF MERCY, GIVING YOU THANKS FOR THIS DAY AND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER IN PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY TO DISCUSS THE MATTERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
MAY THE VOICE AND THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY BE HEARD AND THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL LEAD RESPONSIBLY FOR THE GOOD OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CIVIL LIBERTIES WE ARE BLESSED WITH IN THIS GREAT NATION.
AND ABOVE THAT WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE FREEDOM FROM SIN THAT WE HAVE IN YOU.
IT IS IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY.
LET US SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE LITTLE, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION
[ Presentation of Proclamation Recognizing the Month of July as National Parks and Recreation Month in the City of Rosenberg. (William Benton, Mayor) ]
FOR THE PARKS.IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION? YES.
AND YOU GOT SOME OTHER FOLKS WITH YOU, CARRIE? YES.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GET 'EM ALL.
ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL THAT WISHES? ANYBODY ARE ANYBODY? WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HERE THAT'S ON.
AMANDA, ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THAT? OKAY.
WELL, YOU LIKE TIME, RIGHT? CARRIE LAKI AND YOUR, YOUR STAFF.
Y'ALL ARE A VERY INTEGRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING ROSENBERG.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH WELL AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES TIME, A TIME SPENT IN NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELLBEING.
AND A RELIEVING ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER, AND ALZHEIMER'S.
PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES.
WHEREAS PARK AND RECREATION PROGRAMMING AND EDUCATION, EDUCATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING, YOUTH, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASES A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, AND UH, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND CRIME REDUCTION.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHEREAS OUR PARKS, UH, AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE FOR SPACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS.
WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
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DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS OF RECREATION MONTH.SO NOW ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT Y'ALL WITH THIS PROCLAMATION, RIGHT? HOW YOU DOING? CONGRATULATIONS.
OH, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK PHOTO IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND.
[ Announcements. ]
ANNOUNCEMENTS.I'LL GO THROUGH 'EM, BUT BEFORE WE GO THROUGH 'EM, LET'S ASK THE COUNCIL.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I, I DO.
MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO EXTEND A THANK YOU AND, UH, GREAT JOB ALL AROUND TO ALL THE CITY STAFF, ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT AND CELEBRATING WITH US FOR THE 250TH YEAR OF OUR NATION.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING TOGETHER AND CONGREGATING TOGETHER AS ONE.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST, IT'S AN AMAZING THAT WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL NATION WITH A BUNCH OF BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT THE FAMILY FORT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL ORGANIZED AND, UM, FOR THE 4TH OF JULY, THE, UH, THE WEATHER WASN'T TOO BAD.
MOSQUITOES OR IN THE MOSQUITOES.
SO I GUESS THEY SPRAYED OUT THERE.
UM, WELL, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT WAS, THE MOSQUITOES WEREN'T, WEREN'T BAD AT ALL.
HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A LOT OF FUN.
HOLLYWOOD FEED ADOPTION EVENT SET FOR JULY 15TH.
ADOPTION EVENT HOLLYWOOD FEED ADOPTION WITH WAIVED ADOPTION FEES ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 15TH FROM 11:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AT 1 3 5 7 4 UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD, SUITE 100 SUGARLAND, TEXAS FREE PET VACCINES AND MICROCHIPS AT ST.
PAUL'S LUTHERAN CHURCH FREE CLINIC ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 22ND FOR A FREE VACCINE AND MICROCHIP CLINIC.
THE EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE FROM NINE TO NOON.
IT'S LOCATED 1208 FIFTH STREET IN ROSENBERG.
THIS OPPORTUNITY IS FOR ROSENBERG RESIDENTS, UM, AND RICHMOND RESIDENTS WHILE SUPPLIES LAST.
SO EITHER RICHMOND OR ROSENBERG, I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE TO SHOW YOUR ID OR DRIVER'S LICENSE, WHATEVER YOU GOT.
[ GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. Citizens who have registered with the City Secretary prior to the meeting being called to order and desire to address the City Council with comments of a general nature, as it relates to the City of Rosenberg, will be heard at this time. Speakers may speak on up to three (3) specific agenda items, or a maximum of once during General Comments and up to two (2) additional specific agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three (3) minutes, except that a speaker who addresses the City Council through a translator is limited to six (6) minutes. Speakers are not allowed to distribute documentation while addressing City Council. Speakers making personal, impertinent, profane or slanderous remarks may be removed from the room and shall be barred from reentering the Chamber during the session of City Council. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the City Council is restricted from discussing or taking action on items not listed on the agenda. It is our policy to have all speakers identify themselves by providing their name and residential address when making comments. ]
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.ANY LADIES TO SPEAK? NO, WE WILL DO MEN FIR.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? HI, MY NAME IS NOREEN FEDER.
CAN YOU COME OVER HERE AND SPEAK THEN? WE GOT YOU RIGHT HERE.
UM, I WANTED TO ADDRESS WATER PRESSURE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
NOREEN UDIN, 5 0 1 6 TWIN SUMMIT DRIVE.
WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD DO YOU LIVE IN? LAUREL SENDERO.
I'M THE HOA PRESIDENT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE WATER PRESSURE.
SO EVER SINCE THEY STARTED BUILDING MORE AND MORE HOMES, TRYING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS EXPAND, OUR WATER PRESSURE HAS DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY TO WHERE IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A TRICKLE NOW IN SOME OF OUR, IN SOME OF OUR FAUCETS AND THEY SAY THAT IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY HOMES BEING BUILT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CAUSE IS NOW.
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OUR COMMUNITY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX THAT ON OUR OWN.DO I JUST KEEP GOING WITH MY CONCERNS OR? OH, OH, I HAVE THREE MINUTES.
SO YOU'VE GOT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MORE MINUTES.
UM, YOU COULD SAY A LOT IN TWO AND A HALF MINUTES.
I'M ACTUALLY A VERY FAST TALKER.
UM, TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING CONCERNS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEEDING IN AND OUTTA COLAN, UM, A LOT OF DEAD ANIMALS ON THE ROAD.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION AND HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR THAT ROAD TO BE COMPLETE SO WE CAN GET SOME STOPLIGHTS THERE.
UM, IT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND A LOT OF CONCERNS OVER THERE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO IF WE COULD GET SOME MORE LIKE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS OR SLOW DOWN SIGNS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM JUST BREEZING RIGHT THROUGH.
UM, OUR COMMUNITY IS FULL OF RESIDENTS WITH SMALL CHILDREN AND WE'RE GENUINELY AFRAID.
SO WE WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO, UH, FIX THAT, REMEDY THAT.
AND ALSO THE ROADS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE REALLY BAD.
UM, THERE'S JUST DIPS AND, AND CRACKS AND HOLES EVERYWHERE.
AND THAT'S FROM THE CITY DOING WORK.
THERE'S, UM, DIRT PILES ON THE SIDE OF KOBLIN THAT ARE JUST NEVER ENDING SAND PITS ON THE BACK END OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY SET UP PORTA-POTTIES IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCKING PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS 'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING WORK AND NOBODY'S GIVING US AN ANSWER ON HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE, WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE DONE, LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.
NO PERMISSION WAS ASKED BY ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'M GOING TO CONNECT YOU WITH RIGO.
RIGO, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? ALRIGHT.
I JUST GOTTA TELL YOU ABOUT THE, THE, THE LAW ACTUALLY DOES NOT ALLOW US TO SAY THESE ARE TERRIBLE THINGS.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE YOUR ITEM WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU'LL CALL AND SAY, CAN Y'ALL DISCUSS THIS, THEN WE CAN PUT 'EM ON THE AGENDA.
SO, UH, GIVE HIM YOUR PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU.
SO BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WOULD YOU GET GIVE HIM YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER, AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU'RE IN DISTRICT THREE, CORRECT? YES.
SO IF ANYBODY, ANYBODY EVER ASK YOU, YOU CAN TELL HIM I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.
SCOTT IS ONE OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES.
HE'S A NEW REPRESENTATIVE ON CITY COUNCIL.
AMANDA'S ONE OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND RICHARD IS TOO.
HE, HE, WELL, REALLY ANY ONE OF THESE SEVEN FOLKS WILL HELP YOU.
BUT THIS IS, UH, KIND OF NEWS TO US, SO HE'LL, HE'LL, HE'LL, UM, HE'S GONNA GET GIVE YOU HIS CARD AND YOU GIVE HIM YOUR, IF YOU HAVE A CARD, GIVE IT TO HIM.
IF WONDERFUL, NOT JUST, UH, GET, GIVE HIM YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE ISSUES RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS AND THE RULES.
WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF EVERYTHING.
IVES, DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT, DR.
I'M DAN IVES, 2,500 PECAN DRIVE IN ROSENBERG AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I COME BEFORE YOU.
REPRESENTING NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF ROSENBERG.
LAST YEAR, NUMEROUS CITIZENS CAME BEFORE COUNCIL CITING VARIOUS INCIDENTS AND REASONS WHY THE CITY SHOULD NOT ALLOW SOLICITORS TO KNOCK ON OUR DOORS WITHOUT A CITY PERMIT.
AFTER SPENDING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND TAXPAYER MONEY ON CITY ATTORNEY FEES, COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT DOOR TO DOOR SOLICITING IN OUR CITY WITHOUT A PERMIT, BUT UNDOUBTEDLY DID NOT PUT ENOUGH TEETH INTO IT FOR SUCH ACTION TO HAVE OUR POLICE FORCE TO STRICTLY ENFORCE IT.
SINCE THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, I'VE HAD THREE SOLICITORS COME TO MY DOOR.
THE FIRST ONE WAS SOON AFTER THE ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT.
AND I ADVISED A YOUNG MAN ABOUT SOLICITATIONS IN OUR CITY AND HE ACTUALLY WENT ON HIS WAY OUT OF SIGHT.
THE NEXT TWO SOLICITORS BOTH GAVE ME THE SAME OLD STORY.
YES, WE HAVE A CITY PERMIT, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.
AFTER ADVISING THEM OF OUR CITY ORDINANCE AND THE NEED TO HAVE A PERMIT, I INDICATED TO THEM THEY SHOULD LEAVE OUR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMMEDIATE IMMEDIATELY, AND THAT I WAS GOING TO CALL THE POLICE.
BOTH SOLICITORS, UH, SOLICITORS CONTINUED TO KNOCK ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOORS.
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IMMEDIATELY AND INTERACTED WITH THE SOLICITORS ADVISING THEM OF THE CITY ORDINANCE AND JUST SENDING THEM ON THEIR WAY.BOTH TIMES THE OFFICERS FOUND THE SOLICITORS WORKING IN PAIRS.
CHIEF WHITE TOOK HIS PERSONAL TIME TO TRACK DOWN THE, THE COMPANY OF ONE OF THE SOLICITORS, WHICH WAS BASED IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
FOLKS, I CALLED ON THIS COUNCIL TO GIVE OUR HIGHLY COMPETENT AND RESPECTED ROSENBERG POLICE FORCE, THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS, TO ENFORCE A SOLICITATIONS ORDINANCE.
A LAW THAT IS NOT ENFORCED IS INEFFECTIVE, USELESS, AND OF NO VALUE WHATSOEVER.
IF CITATIONS ARE ISSUED, THE WARD WILL SPREAD QUICKLY, QUICKLY AND HAVE A NOTICEABLE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
I ASK COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO TAKE THIS MATTER UNDER FURTHER ADVISEMENT AND PUT IT ON COUNCIL AGENDA FOR APPROPRIATE ACTION.
I'LL ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT THAT ISSUE BACK ON THE WORKSHOP FOR JULY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, AMMAN FOR ITEM FOUR.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE AMMAN JIWANI, UH, DID I NAIL THAT? YES.
WHEN WE GET TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIGN VARIANCE, WE'LL GET YOU TO SIGN, SIGN UP TO SPEAK TO THAT.
WE'LL GET YOU TO CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK TO IT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA WAS THERE WAS NO OTHER LAST MINUTE SIGNUPS FOR SPEAKERS.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO
[ CONSENT AGENDA ]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN OVER SOME ITEMS ON THIS CONSENT AGENDA.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING, WE GOT ITEM A THROUGH, WHAT WAS IT? T DOES ANYBODY SEE ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH TO PULL DOWN INTO SOME GENERAL DISCUSSION? I BELIEVE IT WAS ITEM O.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S PULL THOSE DOWN AND MAKE THAT ITEM.
WHAT, TWO A, UM, MAYOR, LET ME, LET ME JUST POINT OUT THAT, UM, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL FEES, THAT WOULD BE ITEM K.
UM, WELL, O IS JUST, UM, STATING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE REMOVING THE FEE FROM THE ORDINANCE AND PUTTING IN THE SCHEDULE OF FEES.
SO THE ACTUAL FEE AND FEE ADJUSTMENT IS IN ITEM K.
SO, THANK YOU SCOTT, DO YOU WANNA WANNA PULL DOWN ITEM K INSTEAD? YES, PLEASE.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THE K? ALRIGHT.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST A HEADS UP.
WAS DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER THING ON THE CONSENT OTHER THAN THAT? I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ON.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? OKAY, SO IF, IF SOMEBODY WISHED TO, OKAY, THE, WHERE WAS THE, THE HEALTH, UM, PERMITS, HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMITS.
WHICH ITEM WERE, WERE THOSE ON? THAT'S ALSO IN K.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE NEED TO CON, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE SUBTRACTION OF K AND L.
SO WHO WILL MAKE THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THEN.
WHO WILL SECOND THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, I MADE IT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES.
IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH OR SAY RED.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO TWO A, WHICH IS WHAT? OKK.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA THEN.
[K. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-4066, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, amending the City of Rosenberg Schedule of Fees. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]
AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 4 0 6 6.THE RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSENBERG AMENDING THE CITY OF ROSENBERG.
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ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO CUT THROUGH SOME OF THIS WHERE YOU GO.JUST LEMME KNOW WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT.
SO, UM,
SPECIFICALLY WHICH ONES WERE YOU CONCERNED WITH? UM, ARE YOU ON YOUR ITEM? CAN YOU SEE THE ITEM ON YOUR I'M ON THE ITEM.
THE ANIMAL SURRENDER, TURNING, SURRENDER FEE.
UH, MY CONCERN IS PEOPLE WERE RELUCTANT TO PAY THE $25, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY $200.
SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE AN INCENTIVE TO JUST LET ANIMALS LOOSE.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT, UH, CHIEF IS OMAR, ANYBODY FROM NO.
DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, SINCE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE HERE,
PRO BY PROCESS OF ELIMINATION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO? SURE.
SO REALLY THE WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER ANIMALS WHEN THEY COME INTO THE SHELTER AND FULLY VACCINATE 'EM, GET 'EM UP TO SPEED WITH ALL THEIR VACCINATIONS.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THESE ANIMALS COME IN, UH, THERE'S NO RECORD OF WHAT VACCINATIONS THEY HAVE.
SO THERE IS A COST TO THE CITY TO, TO PERFORM THOSE, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER AND TO GET THEIR VACCINATIONS UP.
SO THIS IS JUST A, AN INCREASE TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
UH, UH, SCOTT, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? OR RIGO, DO YOU WANNA RESPOND? WERE YOU YEAH, NO, AND IT ALSO TAKE CARE OF A BOARD, PROVIDE BOARDING MANAGER ALSO.
SO IT, WE, WE GET THAT IT'S DEFINITELY COST.
I THINK SCOTT'S, AND HE'S NEW, SO I, I THINK THE CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING HERE IS COST TO BENEFIT.
SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S A MECHANISM TO FUND, UH, THESE OTHER EXPENSES ARE NOT OTHER, THE EXPENSIVE OF SPAY AND NEUTER TO TRY TO GET THESE GRANTS.
UM, SOME OF THESE GRANTS ARE VERY SPECIFIC AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST TO TRY THAT.
I THINK AS A GROUP, MAYBE AS A SOCIETY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE LOST, WE'VE LOST OUR WAY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MISSION OF ANIMAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL CONTROL IS, WHICH WAS A HEALTH AND SAFETY THING TO, TO A MORE, AND IT'S NOT WRONG, BUT TO A MORE COMPASSIONATE, WHICH IS SAVE ALL THE ANIMALS.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS, UM, WE NOW HAVE A LOT, A MUCH MORE LEVEL OF STRAY ANIMALS AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE HERE.
SCOTT, DO YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION OR PREFERENCE REGARDING THAT? WHAT WE PASSED? I CAME IN HERE WITHOUT A SOLUTION.
UM, I JUST KNOW, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION, UH, REGARDING THE FEES, REGARDING THE, I WOULD KEEP IT AS IS AT THE $25.
UM, 'CAUSE NO ONE'S GONNA PAY 200 IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANNA SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 25 AND, UH, WELL, YOUR, YOUR POINT IS IF THEY PAY 25, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY ANYTHING MORE THAN 25.
AND HONESTLY, THE INCENTIVE IS TO JUST LET THE, THE ANIMALS LOOSE AND TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IT COST US MORE, US MORE AS A SOCIETY.
SOCIETY, UM, BECAUSE THEN, I MEAN, I HAD A FRIEND FIND STRAY DOGS WITHOUT A COLLAR AND THEY WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO TRY TO REUNITE THE PET WITH THE OWNER.
UM, AND THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT.
AND YOU CAN GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THERE'S GROUPS.
UM, AND THE OTHER OPTION WAS TO DROP IT OFF AT THE POUND, THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
BUT YOU'RE
I THINK SCOTT HAS A POINT, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, AS THEY SAY, IT COULD BE THEIR DOG AND OH, WE JUST FOUND IT ASTRAY.
SO THEY THINK THEY GET OUTTA PAIN.
WAS IT A THOUGHT THAT IF IT IS A OWNER SURRENDER, UH, IF THEY HAD PROOF OF VACCINATION AND ALL THAT SORT OF BUSINESS, WOULD YOU LOWER THE FEE? I MEAN, WAS THAT AN SORRY, I KNOW THAT COULD BE CONVOLUTED.
YEAH, THAT'S CERTAINLY A, A SOMETHING.
COULD THAT BE AN OPTION? CONSIDERED THAT IF IT COMES IN WITH THE REQUIRED, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER ALREADY AND THE, UH, VACCINATIONS THAT, UH, AGAIN, THAT THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE.
WE'RE KIND OF IN THE, IN THE HOLE WITH, WITH THOSE SITUATIONS.
SO, UM, I MEAN ON, ON ALL OF THAT, WE LOSE MONEY.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE KNOW ALL THE SHOTS, THE NEUTER AND SPAYS.
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IT'S SO EXPENSIVE AND WE NEVER MAKE UP THAT MONEY UNLESS WE GET GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH THEY DO VERY WELL AT DOING.BUT, UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND SCOTT'S VIEW THAT IF I FOUND A DOG NOW, IF IT WAS MY DOG, I WOULDN'T BE TURNING IN IF IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF I FOUND A DOG, I SURE WOULDN'T WANNA PAY $200.
I MEAN, I WOULD PAY $25 TO GET IT OFF THE STREET.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T, BUT I WOULD TO KEEP IT SAFE OFF THE STREET.
BUT I MEAN, 200 IS A LOT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR IT BECAUSE OF THE COST.
BUT IF, IF IT IS AN SO-CALLED OWNER SURRENDER AND THEY HAD PROOF, THEY HAD THEIR DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY, THIS DOG IS SPAYED OR NEUTERED OR WHATEVER AND IT'S HAD ITS SHOT, THEY JUST CAN'T CARE FOR IT ANYMORE.
THEY HAVING TO MOVE AND THEY CAN'T TAKE IT WITH THEM.
MAYBE YOU COULD ADJUST THAT FEE.
I MEAN, IS THAT A THOUGHT OR, UH, THAT'S CERTAINLY, AGAIN, THAT'S THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAD THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE 25 AND IT WAS, IT WAS FOR EVERY, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW IT CAN GET S CONVOLUTED KEEPING UP WITH THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE REASONABLE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CAN DEFINITELY, IF OFFER ANY, ANY POLICY ON THAT.
IF YOU, IF SOMEBODY, OKAY, WE USED TO CALL IT THE DOLL CATCHER WHEN THE DOG CATCHER WOULD PICK UP A, A DOG.
NOW I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN THINK, UH, THE, WELL THE DOG CATCHER USED TO ROAM THE AREA LOOKING FOR DOGS.
SO IT'S REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE.
NOW SOMEBODY BRINGS AN ANIMAL, AREN'T THEY DOING US A FAVOR? AREN'T THEY SAVING THE CITY FROM HAVING TO GO DO DOG CATCHER WORK? WHY WE WANNA PENALIZE THEM? THEY DONE US A FAVOR.
THEY BROUGHT THE ANIMAL TO US AS OPPOSED TO PAYING STAFF TO GO GET THE ANIMAL.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE ANIMALS ARE COMING FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS MM-HMM
SO AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT SURRENDERS HERE THOUGH, RIGHT? BUT WE HAVE TO TRIAGE EVERY SITUATION.
PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY WILL LIE ABOUT WHERE THE DOG'S COMING FROM.
WE'VE HAD TO DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON, ON MANY CASES, UH, BECAUSE, AND A LOT OF IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY SPOTS AT THE END.
SO, UM, WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY KENNELS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OR LESS NOT TO REDUCE NUMBERS, IT'S TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS.
SO IF YOU OFFERED A, A DIFFERENT MECHANISM, WE COULD DO THAT.
LET'S SEE IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE AGREEABLE.
AND SCOTT, WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO $50? SURE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL SAYS.
RICHARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I CAN GO ALONG WITH $50.
GEORGE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? $50? IS THAT OKAY? INSTEAD OF 200 AMANDA? YEAH, FIFTIES IS FINE.
SCOTT, YOU'RE ALL RIGHT WITH 50.
STEVE, YOU WERE ON THE ANIMAL BOARD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? 5,200 FREE OR 25? I'M GOOD WITH 50.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE SURE.
SAY A DOG IS PICKED UP, THEY SCAN IT, IT DOES HAVE A CHIP AND ALL THAT.
AND SAY WE HAD TO KEEP IT FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS.
DO WE CHARGE THE OWNER THAT BOARD A BOARDING FEE WHEN THEY COME TO PICK IT UP? TYPICALLY THERE IS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S A CASE BY CASE.
UH, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, UNDERSTAND, UH, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY SITUATION'S THE SAME, RIGHT? UH, BUT YES, WE WILL RECOUP COSTS ON THAT.
DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT INTO MOTION? UH, BRANDON? MM-HMM
WE AMEND I GUESS WHAT WE HAD APPROVED THE, NO, WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION.
YOU'RE APPROVING THE, YOU'RE APPROVING IT TONIGHT.
SO YOU JUST SAY WITH THE CORRECTION, PROVE IT.
FEE CHANGE TO 50 $50 INSTEAD OF $25 TO SURRENDER AN ANIMAL.
ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND MOTION? SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YEAH, WE'LL DO VOICE VOTES.
THIS MY SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING RIGHT NOW.
THEY'VE REMOTE IT IN, SO, OKAY.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, JUST I WANTED TO EXPRESS ON K ON K ON K.
WHAT WAS THE NEXT ONE? THE HEALTH, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE HEALTH INSPECTION FEE.
WHAT'S YOUR CONCERN? FEE? UM, IT BASED ON THE SIZE OF EMPLOYEES.
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT MAYOR, WE, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND IT WAS APPROVED.
SO WE NEED A, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IT AND HAVE THAT ADOPTED BY TWO THIRDS OF COUNSEL AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT ITEM.
DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT POSSIBLY, OR? WELL, HE JUST DID THE ANIMAL PORTION OF IT.
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WE, WE APPROVE THE WHOLE PORTION.SO THE ENTIRE THING WAS THE FULL SCHEDULE OF FEES.
I MEAN, WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT THIS MEETING, BUT JUST, WELL, I DIDN'T WANNA CHANGE ANYTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO VOICE A COMPLAINT.
UM, THE FEES ALL WENT UP A HUNDRED DOLLARS BASED ON NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.
AND I MEAN, IT'S A 50% INCREASE FOR, UH, A SMALL CONVENIENCE STORE SELLING POTATO CHIPS AND BEEF JERKY.
UM, WHEREAS A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES WENT FROM 700 TO 800 BUCKS.
IT'S JUST THE SCALABILITY OF IT.
UM, I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY, AND, AND THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PART IS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A, A SEPARATE INSPECTION THAT'S BEING DONE.
THAT'S A MANDATE THAT WE DO FAT OIL AND GREASE.
SO IT'S A SEPARATE INSPECTION.
SEPARATE PERSON COMES OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY GOES OUT THERE AND CHECKS ON ALL THE GREASE TRAPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MANIFESTED CORRECT, TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THAT GREASE IS GETTING INTO OUR STORM SEWER.
SO THAT'S HOW WE REDUCED A LOT OF OUR, UH, SEWER STOPS IN THE CITY JUST BY, UH, KEEPING UP WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GREASE ISN'T GETTING INTO OUR STORM SEWER.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, UH, THAT TCEQ ENDED UP SETTING FORTH THAT WE NEEDED TO START ACTUALLY MONITORING THE GREASE THAT, UH, RESTAURANTS.
SO TCQ STATE, UH, STATE ORGANIZ, UH, UH, TEXAS ENVIRONMENTAL.
SO IT'S A, IT'S ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE.
SO, AND, AND THIS IS JUST TO COVER THE COST OF THAT PERSON THAT GOES OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THAT GREASE.
ARE YOU FAIRLY SATISFIED WITH THAT? I, I DIDN'T WANT TO TRY TO FIGHT IT HERE TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF YOU'LL FIND HERE THAT, UM, THE COUNTY HAS THE SAME PROBLEM.
A LOT OF UNFUNDED MANDATES COME DOWN FROM HIGHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES AND THEY, THEY WANT CITIES AND COUNTIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DO THIS.
AND MOST OF THEM ARE GOOD, IDEAL.
THEY'RE JUST NOT FUNDED AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THEM.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT ITEM? OKAY.
[L. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-34, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, amending the Code of Ordinances by amending Chapter 16, Article II, Division 2 entitled, "Carnivals and Similar Shows and Exhibitions", related to the Carnival License Fee; providing for severability; providing an effective date; and providing a penalty for violation of any provision hereof. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager) ]
L, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 34.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS.
AMENDING CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING CHAPTER 16, ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION TWO ENTITLED CARNIVALS AND SIMILAR SHOWS EXHIBITIONS RELATED TO CARNIVAL LICENSE FEE, UH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING A PENALTY FOR ANY VIOLATION FOR VIOLATION OF ANY PROVISION.
HEREOF, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
RI WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING ELSE TO SCOTT TOO.
THESE ARE ORDINANCES AND A LOT OF TIMES OR THERE, THERE'LL BE A RESOLUTION THAT WE VOTE ON.
UM, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST POLICY, IT'S NOT EVEN CODIFIED.
UH, AN ORDINANCE IS CODIFIED, WHICH MEANS IT'S IN THE CODE.
THESE CAN BE REVISITED AT ANY TIME GOING THROUGH THE DISCLOSURE PROCESS WHERE YOU, YOU ASKED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU HAVE TO, UH, WE HAVE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC, UM, NOTICE BY, BY DANIELLE POSTING IT AND THEN, UM, GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO DELIBERATE ON IT AND HAVE A VOTE ON IT.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE JUST LIKE WHAT WE JUST APPROVED, WE CAN REVISIT THOSE AT ANY TIME.
IT'S ALL A PROCESS AND IT TAKES TIME OUT OF OUR LIVES.
IT TAKES TIME OUTTA THE STAFF AND IT COSTS MONEY, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL THE, IT'S STILL BETTER THAN A DICTATORSHIP.
SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN'T DO.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE OR AMEND OR UNDO.
SO DON'T GET DISCOURAGED IF SOMETHING GETS PASSED AND, AND YOU GET OUTVOTED.
I'VE BEEN BEEN THERE BEFORE MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.
ALRIGHT, ANYWAY, UH, RIGO, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? YEAH.
UH, THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE JUNE 23RD, 2026, UH, WORKSHOP MEETING ORDINANCE 20 26, 34 MEN'S CHAPTER 16, ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION TWO OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE THAT THE CARNIVAL LICENSEE BE TO WILL BE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY'S SCHEDULE FEES.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 34.
SO WE ENDED UP TAKING THE, THE, THE FEE THAT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE AND PUT IT INTO THE SCHEDULE FEES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN UP.
UH, INSTEAD OF HAVING A FEE IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, EITHER, WHETHER IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE OR THE SCHEDULE FEES, MAKE SURE THAT ANYT CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO WE JUST TOOK IT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AND JUST PUT IT IN ONE
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PLACE.AND MY, BASICALLY, MY QUESTION WAS, WELL, I GUESS YOU ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION.
UH, A COUPLE RESIDENTS ASKED ME WHAT, WHAT THAT WAS FOR.
BUT I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, HOW MANY OF THESE LICENSES WERE ISSUED, LET'S JUST SAY IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS? IS IT SOMETHING ON THE DAILY BASIS? IS IT SEASONAL? I CAN'T EVEN THINK IT, I THINK WE WERE TOLD TWO OR THREE A YEAR.
DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY, HOW MANY CARNIVALS DID THE PERMITS GET PULLED? A YEAR? MAYBE ONE.
BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, FIESTA WILL HAVE ONE OUT THERE.
IT IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THOSE RARE THEN THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S THE ONE.
SO CARNIVALS IS IS WHAT THEY HAVE AT FIESTA, RIGHT? IN THE PARKING LOT? CORRECT.
IF IT'S A, IT'S A PRIVATE EVENT.
THEY'RE IN A PARKING LOT WHERE IT'S THERE TO MAKE MONEY.
WELL, YOU GOT THE FAIR THEY THEIR CARNIVAL.
YEAH, THAT ONE'S EXEMPT WITH THE COUNTY.
WELL THEN YOU ONLY GOT THE ONE AT FIESTA IS THE ONLY OTHER CARNIVAL.
I THINK THERE'S ONE ALSO THE SHRINERS, UH, UH, THING THAT'S COVERED UNDER, YEAH.
OH, THAT'S UNDER, THAT'S THE COUNTY AREA.
OH NO MORE SHRINE CIRCUS HERE.
BUT MAYBE THEY'LL MOVE BACK TO THE FAIRGROUNDS.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT THE, UM, NO.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, SO LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CARNIVAL LICENSE FEES.
WELL, SO I, I KIND OF HAVE A, I MEAN, WAS WAS THERE A BIG, UH, BIG CARNIVAL MARKET? WAS THERE A PROBLEM THAT WE NEEDED? NO, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO CLEAN, CLEAN IT UP INSTEAD OF IT BEING IN THE ORDINANCE AND THE SCHEDULE FEES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE JUST TRY TO CLEAN UP THE ORDINANCE AND TAKE THOSE FEES OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AND JUST KEEP ALL THE FEES ON ONE LOCATION JUST SO THAT IF SOMEONE ASKS THEY CAN JUST GO TO OUR SCHEDULE FEES.
AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OUR FEES ARE AT INSTEAD OF, YEAH, WELL OUR ORDINANCES IS, OR SCHEDULE FEES DOESN'T.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT THE LAST 10 YEARS, BUT THESE ARE ORDINANCES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED IN OVER 10 YEARS.
SO THEREFORE, UM, THE FEE'S STILL IN THERE AND LIKE RICO SAID, WE'RE JUST CLEANING IT UP.
WE ACCEPT ITEM L ONE 12, SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE OR PUSHING, PUSHING GREEN YET.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, VOICE VOTE, SAY AYE.
UH, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY NO.
THE AYES HAVE IT ARE MUCH CHEAPER THAN THESE, UH, ELECTRONIC MACHINES.
ALRIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? IS THAT ALL WE'RE ON? JUST, ALRIGHT, MY DEAR.
[2. Consideration of and action on appointment of a Mayor Pro Tem. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ]
TWO, CONSIDERATION OF AN APPOINTMENT FOR MAYOR PRO TIM.SO IN THE EVENT THE MAYOR CAN'T SERVE OR NOT HEAR, OR GETS SICK, UM, WE GOTTA HAVE A, A, A REPLACEMENT.
UM, WHO IS, LET'S, LET'S JUST START DOWN MY FAR RIGHT.
GEORGE, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN BEING MAYOR PRO? TIM? RICHARD, ARE YOU INTERESTED? AMANDA, ARE YOU INTERESTED? YES.
SCOTT, ARE YOU INTERESTED? NO.
UH, STEVE, ARE YOU INTERESTED? NO.
FELIX, ARE YOU INTERESTED? YES.
SO WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE INTERESTED.
YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, WHAT IS IT? HAVE FELIX BE THE MAYOR.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY STEVE FOR FELIX, SECONDED BY GEORGE.
MAYBE Y'ALL CAN TAKE TERMS AND WE CAN AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE COULD CHANGE OUT.
DO I HAVE TO VOTE? SO NOBODY BE OFFENDED HERE.
ALRIGHT, FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, FELIX BEING MAYOR, PROTI VOICE VOTE OR PUSH? VOTE.
VOICE VOTE FOR, UH, FOR FELIX, SAY AYE.
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FELIX.THANK YOU MAYOR OF MAYOR PROTI.
CAN WE DO IT AFTERWARDS? UH, WE'LL DO IT, WE'LL DO IT.
A PICTURES ARE NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK.
[3. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-4069, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, rescinding Resolution No. R-3224, adopted on January 4, 2022, which approved the Rosenberg 101 Citizen Education Program. (Joyce Vasut, City Manager) ]
ME MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.CONSIDERATION OF AND ACTION ON, UH, RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 4 0 6 9.
A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS, RESCINDING RESOLUTION R 3 2 2 4 ADOPTED ON JANUARY 4TH, 2022, WHICH APPROVED ROSENBERG 1 0 1, UH, CITIZEN EDUCATION PROGRAM.
THIS AGENDA ITEM HAS BEEN INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILOR RICHARD OLSON TO CONSIDER DISCONTINUING THE ROSENBERG 1 0 1 CITIZEN EDUCATION PROGRAM ON JANUARY 4TH, 2022.
CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION NUMBER 32 24 APPROVING THE PROGRAM.
THE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED TO PROVIDE CITY RESIDENTS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT CITY OPERATIONS SERVICES, DEPARTMENTS, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSES THROUGH A STRUCTURED EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
RESOLUTION NUMBER 40 69 WOULD RESCIND RESOLUTION NUMBER R 32 24 AND DISCONTINUE THE PROGRAM APPROVE OF THE RESOLUTION WOULD REMOVE THE PROGRAM FROM THE CITY'S ACTIVE INITIATIVES.
ALRIGHT, RICHARD, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, OR DO YOU JUST WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WELL, I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN.
UM, I THINK IT WAS DONE WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.
I THINK THEY, UH, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE CITIZENS AND, UH, EDUCATE THEM MORE ABOUT THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME PEOPLE INTERESTED IN RUNNING AND, UH, BEING ON COMMITTEES.
BUT AFTER THE STAFF GOES THROUGH ALL THE WORK IN PUTTING ON THESE CLASSES, I COME TO FIND OUT THERE, UH, MAYBE 15 PEOPLE ENROLL AND ONLY TWO END UP COMPLETING ON AVERAGE EVERY YEAR.
SO I THINK IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS, IS MY NUMBERS RIGHT? NO, SIR.
AND WE HAVE ABOUT 25 WHO APPLY.
DO ANYBODY WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS? WELL, I DID QUESTION IT WHEN I SAW IT.
UM, AND I THINK THE INTENTION WAS KIND OF WHAT RICHARD SAID, BUT DO YOU FIND THAT HAPPENING? I MEAN, IS IT VERY TIME CONSUMING? WHO ON THE STAFF TAKES CARE OF THAT? HOW YOU DO, DO YOU? 'CAUSE IT'S IN THE EVENING TIME.
SO, UM, I MEAN, INTERNALLY, UM, TANYA TAKES CARE OF THE PROGRAM IN HER DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEY'RE TWO HOURS A PIECE ON MONDAYS, UM, IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, I BELIEVE.
UM, I MEAN, IT DOES TAKE SOME OTHER TIME OTHER THAN THE, THE MEETING.
UM, WE, WE PREPARE, BUT SINCE WE HAVE THE PROGRAM PREPARED, IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.
UM, AS WE REPEAT IT YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE JUST UPDATE OUR SLIDES, UPDATE OUR, YOU KNOW, THE STATISTICS, THE NUMBERS, THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT DOES TAKE SOME STAFF TIME.
ARE THE STAFF VOLUNTEERS THAT, THAT ARE THERE AFTER HOURS? NO STAFF ARE EMPLOYEES.
SO THEY'RE PAID TO BE THERE? WELL, NO, MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE DIRECTORS WHO ARE EXEMPT FROM OVERTIME.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ON THE PA THEY'RE NOT PAID.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT OVERTIME OF YOUR SALARIED EMPLOYEES.
ARE DIRECTORS PAID TO BE DIRECTORS? YES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAID EMPLOYEES.
AND YOU ASKED IF THEY'RE PAID FOR BEING THERE? THEY'RE PAID THEIR SALARY, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAID OVERTIME.
IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY, BUT THEY DO, DO THEY DO SALARY? UH, I MEAN, UH, SCHEDULE ADJUSTMENTS MAKE UP FOR THE, FOR THE TIME.
I MEAN, FOR TWO HOURS, PROBABLY NOT TOO MUCH.
UH, AMANDA, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I MEAN, I JUST, I MEAN, IF, IF WE THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITIZENS, THAT'S FINE, BUT IF IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A WASTE OF TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT AS MAYBE IT WAS INTENDED.
DO YOU SEE ANY OF THESE PEOPLE COMING BACK TO BE ON COMMITTEES OR DO ANYTHING? WE'VE HAD A FEW BE ON COMMITTEES, UM, THIS PAST SESSION WE HAD TO RUN FOR COUNCIL.
UM, SO WE HAVE HAD SOME INVOLVEMENT.
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WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING I, I GUESS YOU CAN.WHAT, UH, IS IT WORTH IT? DO YOU THINK? IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID OVERTIME, THEY'RE STILL BEING, THEY'RE STILL ON THE CLOCK, BASICALLY.
UM, DO YOU THINK IT'S FEASIBLE TO KEEP GOING ON WITH THIS? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
UM, IT, IT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION IF YOU WANT US TO CARRY IT ON, BUT I MEAN, WE FELT IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
IT'S COMPATIBLE TO WHAT THE POLICE DOES WITH THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
THEY TEACH ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE TEACH ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
SO WHAT IS THE COST OF THE PROGRAM? PROBABLY BETWEEN FOUR AND $5,000 A YEAR.
LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY.
AMANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, NOT RIGHT NOW.
SCOTT, DO YOU, DO YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING OR ADD, INQUIRE ABOUT IT? NO.
GEORGE, DO YOU OH, NO, I JUST FEEL THAT, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU FEEL GOOD TOO BECAUSE OF THE PARENTS BEING HERE AND SUPPORTING THE, UH, PERSON THAT, UH, IS GETTING PROMOTED.
UH, STEVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
IF WE DECIDE, I GUESS THE ACTION IS WHAT, TO REMOVE THE PROGRAM, UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE GO AND DECIDE TO REMOVE IT, HOW WILL WE EDUCATE THE, THE FUTURE RESIDENTS? IS THERE, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING IN PLAN TO REPLACE IT OR, OR TO HELP EDUCATE THE, THE NEW RESIDENTS? I IS, IS, HANG ON, LET ME ANSWER THAT.
THE CITY IS NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE'RE NOT IN THE EDUCATION BUSINESS NOW TO INFORM THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE DO HERE.
SEE, THESE CAMERAS COST THE CITY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A SPECIAL FUND TO, TO FUND THOSE THAT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
LET ME JUST LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.
THAT'S A SPECIAL FUND THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH HOW CHOICE PEG FUNDS.
WHAT'S THAT? IT COMES FROM, UM, CABLE TV, CABLE TV FRANCHISE.
SO WHEN YOU PAY TAXES, CABLE BUILDERS A SMALL FEE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KIND OF FEES WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR, LOOK AT YOUR BILL.
WE HAVE THE MUNICIPAL CHANNEL.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, OPEN MEETINGS, WE HAVE COMMITTEES, WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF, LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF WAYS THAT FOLKS CAN, CAN GET INVOLVED.
NOW, THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER PART OF THAT.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK REALLY THAT'S THE POINT, ALTHOUGH FOUR AND FIVE, FOUR OR $5,000 IS STILL FOUR OR $5,000.
UM, BUT, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE AS A, AS A BIG FINANCIAL COST AS I DO MORE OF A, A PRACTICAL, A PRACTICABILITY PRACTICALITY MA MATTER.
WELL TANYA, AS FAR AS INFORMING TAKES CARE OF IT, CORRECT? YES.
SHE ORGANIZES IT AND PREPARES FOR CAN WE GET HER TO SPEAK? YEAH.
WHAT COME UP HERE? I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT YOUR OPINION IS ON WHAT YOU THINK AND HOW YOU THINK IT GOES.
UM, I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN WATCH COUNCIL MEETINGS ON TV.
THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN HOW CITY GOVERNMENT REALLY WORKS.
UM, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
IT IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE USE TO CONNECT WITH OUR, OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I FIND THAT 99% OF OUR CLASSMATES ARE NEW HERE.
IT'S VERY ENLIGHTENING FOR THEM.
AND I THINK, I MEAN, I BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S YOUR DECISION.
I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD 96 GRADUATES TO DATE AND WE'RE ON OUR FIFTH YEAR OF THE PROGRAM.
AND YOU MEET, UH, YOU SAID JANUARY OR FEBRUARY? SO IS THAT THE, JUST THAT, THOSE TWO MONTHS OUTTA THE YEAR AND THAT'S IT, IT'S NINE WEEKS FROM 60 8:00 PM AND WE DO TAKE A WEEK OFF FOR SPRING BREAK 'CAUSE A LOT OF OUR, OUR CLASSMATES HAVE YOUNG KIDS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA WASTE STAFF'S TIME, LIKE WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND ALL THAT.
UH, SO IF STAFF DOESN'T THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL, THEN I WOULD AGREE MAYBE TO DIS YOU KNOW, TO DISBAND IT.
BUT IF YOU THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL AND IT'S NOT A WASTE OF TIME, IT DOESN'T COST US A TON OF MONEY MM-HMM
BY ANY MEANS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I COULD BE OKAY WITH KEEPING IT GOING.
IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF.
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YOU AFFORD PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO, TO GO.BUT I MEAN, AS FAR AS AT LEAST IT'S OFFERED AND THEN FOLKS CAN'T SAY, WELL YOU DIDN'T OFFER IT.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS MORE THAN WHAT SHE, WHAT JOY SAID THE COST, THE FINANCIAL COST.
WHEN IT COMES BUDGET TIME, WE DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT LINE ITEM.
AND AS FAR, IF WE DON'T SEE THAT, I WOULD CONCUR WITH KEEPING THE PROGRAM.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND BUDGET.
WHEN, WHEN THE BUDGET COMES ALSO, LET'S, LET'S, WE NEED TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL MEET AT DINNER TIME, CORRECT? YES.
AND WE CALL FOR APPLICANTS IN JANUARY.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COMMITTEES, ARE YOU, YOU NEED TO BE HOSPITABLE AND GIVE THEM, GIVE THEM A FEW MORSELS TO, TO EAT AT LEAST, RIGHT? THINK, FORGOT HEARING THE STAFF.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT WAS CONCERNED THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK VERY MUCH.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE COST WAS A LITTLE MORE.
I I THOUGHT IT COST A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.
I, I WANTED TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT.
UM, I GUESS IF, IF IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO THINK IT'S DOING SOME GOOD, UH, I GUESS I CAN GO ALONG WITH IT.
YEAH, I THINK AT SOME VERY MINIMAL CALLS.
AND HOPEFULLY, UH, WE'LL GET MORE INVOLVEMENT AND GET SOME FOLKS, MAYBE SOME COMMITTEE FOLKS OUT OF THAT.
WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS.
FELIX, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UH, I'M OKAY WITH KEEPING IT.
DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE, SCOTT? OKAY.
GEORGE, KEEP OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROSENBERG 1 0 1 PROGRAM.
SO WE'LL WHERE YOU AGREED WE'LL, UH, NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN THEN.
ALRIGHT, WHAT'S THE NEXT ITEM?
[4. Consideration of and action on a sign variance request by Aman Panjwani, Seva Signs, to allow a sixty-five feet (65') tall multi-tenant sign within Sign District “A” in lieu of the maximum thirty-six feet (36') tall sign at 27025 Southwest Freeway (Sec. 1-363 (B)(2)(i)). (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning) ]
ASSIGNED VARIANCE REQUEST.AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THAT.
LET ME READ THE ITEM AND THEN WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE OUR SPEAKER AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ITEM.
CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ASSIGNED VARIOUS REQUESTS BY AMAN, UH, PAI AND CVA.
SIGNS TO ALLOW A 65 FOOT TALL MULTI-TENANT SIGN WITHIN SIGN DISTRICT A IN LIEU OF THE MAXIMUM 36 FEET TALL SIGN.
NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE AT 27 0 5 SOUTHWEST FREEWAY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO SECTION ONE DASH 360 3 B TWO I OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 27 0 2 5 SOUTHWEST FREEWAY.
UH, THE LOCATION IS ON THE MAP.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US HIGHWAY 59, INTERSTATE 69 AND REESE ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW 65 FEET TALL ILLUMINATED MULTI-TENANT GROUND SIGN WITH WITHIN SIGN DISTRICT A IN LIEU OF THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 36 FEET PERMITTED BY THE CODE.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE TRUCK STOP WITH FUELING STATION VARIANCE REQUEST MUST BE EVALUATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BASED ON FOUR CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE CODE.
UH, SECTION FOUR DASH SEVEN PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS ON VARIANCE REQUESTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL PER THE CITY CODE.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY MAKES THE FINAL DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
A VARIANCE MAY AT THE SOLE DESCRIPTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL BE ISSUED FOR INDEFINITE DURATION OR FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME.
ON JUNE 17TH, 2026, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSED THE SUBJECT VARIANCE REQUEST.
AFTER THE DISCUSSION, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH A FOUR ONE, UH, FOUR ZERO VOTE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY.
OKAY, WE HAVE A, UH, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT THE SIGN LOOKS LIKE? THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THAT PICTURE.
WE HAVE APPLICANT, DID WE HAVE A SPEAKER HERE FOR THIS? AND WE ALSO HAVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE.
SO AFTER THE SPEAKER GOES, I'M GONNA CALL THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE BECAUSE THE PLANNING
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COMMISSION UM, DENIED THIS.SO WE WANT TO GET THAT VIEW AS WELL.
BUT, UH, AMMAN, WOULD YOU COME AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I RESIDE AT 2 3 5 1 4 BELINA DRIVE, RICHMOND, TEXAS 7 7 4 0 6.
AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
AS UH, MOHAMMED SAID, OUR VARIANCE APPLICATION COMES BEFORE YOU WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY IT.
I SPOKE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AND, AND MADE ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF OUR UM, VARIANCE REQUEST.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TONIGHT TO INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW OUR APPLICATION BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPLIED THE STANDARDS THAT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES.
THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES FOUR FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN DESIGNING A VARIANCE.
WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE WERE PREPARED OUR APPLICATION AND OUR APPLICATION IS THOROUGH ON ALL FOUR OF THOSE STANDARDS.
WE EXPLAINED WHY THE PROPERTY HAS A UNIQUE ROAD GEOMETRY THAT CREATES THIS UNDUE HARDSHIP.
WE EXPLAINED WHY A VARIANCE WOULD NOT HARM PUBLIC SAFETY OR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
WE ALSO EXPLAINED WHY IT WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS.
AND ALSO WE EXPLAINED THAT THERE IS NO OTHER WORKABLE CODE COMPLIANT ALTERNATIVE.
THE DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RESPECT RESPECTFULLY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT ABOUT THOSE FOUR STANDARDS.
IT WAS INSTEAD FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON WHETHER A BUSINESS LIKE OURS, A CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUEL STATIONS IN THE FIRST PLATES NEEDS A TALLER SIGN WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THIS HIGHWAY.
EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IN THAT AREA, WHETHER THEY'RE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR NOT, HAS A SIGN AT 65 FOOT OR HIGHER.
WE ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPLY THE UDC FOR VARIANCE REQUESTS.
THE CITY ADOPTED THESE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS SO THAT APPLICANTS WOULD KNOW THAT THEIR REQUESTS WOULD BE EVALUATED.
IF THOSE STANDARDS ARE NOT ACTUALLY USED IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, THEN WE AS APPLICANTS CAN'T RELY ON THAT GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY OF ROSENBERG.
THEY WE'RE JUST LEFT TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THE REAL STANDARD ACTUALLY IS.
THAT UNDERMINES CONFIDENCE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND YOUR GOVERNING BODY, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT EVERY RESIDENT AND BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT.
IN FACT, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE OPPOSITE.
WE'RE ASKING THAT OUR APPLICATION BE JUDGED BY THE SAME STANDARDS THAT THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED FOR EVERY VARIANCE APPLICANT.
AND THAT FACT FINDING IS DONE, CONSIDERED, DISCUSSED ACCORDING TO THE FOUR CRITERIA, APPLIED AND THEN DECIDED IF YOU DO THAT AND THEN YOU COME TO THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVEN'T MET THE VARIANCE, THEN WE UNDERSTAND.
BUT IF YOU DO THAT SEARCH AND YOU COME TO THE OPPOSITE CONCLUSION INDEPENDENTLY, THEN WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
ALRIGHT, STANDBY JUST A SECOND.
WAYNE, COULD YOU WHAT? MAKE YOUR WAY UP HERE.
WOULD YOU MIND PLEASE? I GOT A QUESTION FOR MOHAMMED, THEN WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE LINE.
HE SAID EVERY, UH, HE SAID EVERY UH, BUSINESS THERE HAS 65.
'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 36.
TO ME, THAT'S PRETTY TALL ALREADY, SIR.
YOU'RE WANTING TO GO FROM 36 TO 65.
AND BY THE WAY, WE'VE TURNED DOWN A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WHAT WE GOING TO DO AND TELL THOSE PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT WE'VE ALREADY TURNED DOWN FOR YEARS, HOW DO WE GO BACK AND AND CORRECT THEM? SO YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE FOR YEARS.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT YOUR CONCERN, BUT THAT'S THE POSITION IT'S GONNA PUT THIS COUNSEL IN.
BUT, BUT UM, IS IT TRUE THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES THERE THAT HAVE 65 FOOT SIGNS ALREADY? THERE'S SOME EXISTING SIGNS OUT THERE.
UH, A FEW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SIX BUSINESSES LISTED HERE.
WE HAVE SIX BUSINESSES LISTED HERE THAT APPARENTLY ARE SAYING THEY HAVE MORE THAN 36 FOOT SIGNS.
ROSENBERG TRAVEL PLAZA, THE, THE VALERO SHELL MOTEL, SIX DAYS INN BY WINDHAM AND QUATE INN.
WERE ANY OF THOSE GIVEN VARIANCES OR THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.
SO, OKAY, WHEN WERE THEY PUT UP AND WHERE WERE THEY BEFORE THIS CODE WAS PUT INTO PLACE? OR WAS IT AFTER THEY GOT A VARIANCE? THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.
THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ITSELF WAS ADOPTING 2017.
UH, A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE OLD.
UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I WOULDN'T SAY FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT A LOT OF THEM WERE, WERE HERE AND, AND HE'S RIGHT, THERE ARE SOME SIGNS OUT THERE THAT ARE 65 OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN 65, BUT THEY'RE ALL NON-CONFORMING EXISTING SIGNS.
THE CODE WAS ADOPTED IN 2017, 2000.
UH, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN UPDATED AFTER THAT, BUT AT
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THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE THAT WE HAVE TODAY.EVERY BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN PERMITTED OR ALLOWED, ASSIGNED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS COMPLIED WITH THIS RULE.
SO BEFORE 2017, DO REMEMBER WHAT THE SIGN HEIGHT WAS? DID WE EVEN HAVE ONE? DO WE KNOW I WAS ON THE SIGNED COMMITTEE AS A, AS A, AS A CITIZEN.
2017 AS A CITIZEN BEFORE I JOINED COUNCIL.
IN FACT, I CHAIRED THAT BECAUSE, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR ME.
YOU'RE SAYING 60 FOOT SIGN, BUT THEN ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE SIGNED DOCUMENT BY THE APPLICANT, IT'S ASKING, SAYING 75 FOOT.
SO IS IT 65 OR 75? MAY I COMMENT ON THAT? YES.
UM, IN THE COURSE OF THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WE WERE ASKED BY MOHAMMED WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM HEIGHT THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR AT THAT POINT IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE SAID 65 FOOT.
SO THIS WAS SIGNED BEFORE Y'ALL HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, THE, THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE THAT DISCUSSION.
IT WAS SENT TO US IN AN EMAIL REQUEST.
WE CALL, WE, UH, GAVE OUR RESPONSE AT THAT TIME.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TURNED DOWN ON BIG? I MEAN, WE HAVE THESE SIX.
THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN SIX BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
WHAT'S THE LEGACY SIGN? WHAT'S TSC SIGN? YOU'RE, AREN'T YOU NEAR LEGACY AND TSC? MM-HMM
WHAT'S TO STOP THEM FROM COMING BACK AND SAYING YOU APPROVED HIM.
HOW WOULD YOU RESP IF YOU WERE IN OUR POSITION, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WELL, I, I WOULD LOOK AT THE RECORD AND SEE IF THEY SUBMITTED A VARIANCE REQUEST.
IF THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT A VARIANCE REQUEST.
WE HAVE, AND WE'RE ASKING THAT THOSE CRITERIA BE WE AT LEAST CONSIDERED WELL, WE HAVE ORDINANCES FOR A REASON.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN COUNCILS IN THE PAST AND WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL DECIDES, THAT'S OUR ORDINANCE.
AND IF WE OPEN THE DOOR FOR ONE THAT JUST OPENS THE FLOOD GATE.
I HAVE 36 AND I LIKE OUR STRONG ORDINANCES BECAUSE THERE'S THE REASON.
36 FEET IS ALREADY PRETTY, PRETTY TALL SIGN, SIR.
THIS IS A CONVENIENCE STORE, NOT A HOTEL OR A MOTEL, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
I'M SORRY YOU WOULDN'T NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD MR. MAYOR.
I I I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
LOOK, I, I HEAR YOU AND I UNDERSTAND STRONG ORDINANCES OR STRONG ORDINANCES.
BUT ALSO, IF I MAY, STRONG ORDINANCES ALSO HAVE, UM, THE WAYS TO, UH, VARY FROM THEM.
WELL JUST BE, JUST BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ORDINANCES THAT WHEN PEOPLE, WHEN I'VE ASKED THE STAFF, WELL, MAYBE THEY CAN DO AN ORDINANCE.
OH, YOU CAN'T DO A VARIANCE FOR THAT.
YOU CAN'T DO A VARIANCE FOR THIS.
YOU CAN'T DO A VARIANCE FOR THIS.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT PROVIDES FOR A VARIANCE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN, OH, OKAY.
LET ME GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, AND BECAUSE I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT, I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, GET APPROVED.
BUT IT'S, IT'S OKAY TO TRY THAT.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, LET ME ASK WAYNE, UH, HE SAID IT, BUT DON'T LEAVE.
JUST, UH, STAND THERE IF YOU DON'T MIND, WAYNE.
UM, UH, WAYNE IS THE HEAD OF THE, OR CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND WAYNE, UM, THE BOARD TURNED THIS DOWN.
I MEAN, THE COMMISSION TURNED IT DOWN.
WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ON THIS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M A RULES PERSON.
I THINK RULES WERE MADE FOR A REASON.
AND I THINK THAT RULES SHOULD BE FOLLOWED.
WHOEVER WANTS TO COME TO ROSENBERG AND DEVELOP NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
NOW, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS.
THERE, IF, IF IT'S A MINOR VARIATION, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE FEET HERE, A COUPLE FEET THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWICE ALMOST.
THAT'S ABOUT WHAT, 80, 90% PLUS.
SO THAT'S A, IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND YEAH, I GOT, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SIGN IS THAT HIGH IS GOING TO REALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE LAYOUT OF THIS, THE EXIT TO GET TO YOUR STORE.
HOW, HOW, HOW FAR AWAY ARE, ARE THEY GOING BE ABLE TO SEE THE EXIT, SEE THE SIGN, AND GET ON THE EXIT? IT'S KINDA LIKE, YEAH, EXIT WOULD BE AT 36, WOULDN'T IT? WELL, IT BE EXIT BE 36, I THINK.
SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE PRIOR TO 30 ONLY PRIOR TO YOU TO, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN PRIOR TO MAKE THE EXIT.
PRIOR TO, UM, NO, I MAY BE WRONG.
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IS THERE AN EXIT AFTER 36? NOT UNTIL 2218.LET ME GO THINK YOU PASS THAT THERE'S AN EXIT RIGHT AT TSC? YES.
ALRIGHT, LET ME, LET ME LOOK HERE AND WE SHALL SEE.
THERE'S AN EXIT, RIGHT? YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO YOU, SO SIGNS WOULD HELP PEOPLE FOR, FOR HIS EXIT.
BUT I, I THINK THEY CAN SEE A 36.
ANYWAY, I MEAN, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY OPINION IS THAT YOU MAKE THE RULES AND, AND LIKE SOMEONE SAID, IF YOU OPEN THE DOOR, YOU SAY, WELL, YOU GAVE HIM THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE THIS.
THE OTHER THING IS, A VARIANCE IS NOT A RIGHT PERIOD.
I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BILLBOARD FOR ADVERTISING A COUPLE MILES AHEAD OF THE EXIT.
YOU KNOW, BUCKY'S EXITING 70 MILES
WELL IT'S, IT'S A CONVENIENT STORE AND THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM.
AND, AND BILLBOARDS COST MONEY.
WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST TRY TO CHARGE PEOPLE.
I, I THINK MAIN CONCERN FOR ME IS WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK FOR STUFF FOR, AND, AND, AND AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO SAY, AND PEOPLE TELL ME ALL THE TIME, YOU JUST GOTTA SAY NO.
AND I DON'T LIKE TO PARTICULARLY SAY NO, PREFER TO SAY YES, BUT HEY, AT LEAST YOU'RE GETTING A 36 FOOT SIGN.
BUT I'M NOT THE FULL DECISION MAKER HERE.
LET'S SEE WHAT THE, UH, LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS.
AMANDA, WE'RE GONNA START WITH YOU.
WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN AND END WITH THEM.
I'D RATHER IT STAY WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE.
SO ANOTHER POINT IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
Y'ALL DECIDE Y'ALL DENIED THE YES.
AND, AND I WOULD PREFER TO UPHOLD THAT DECISION IF, IF WE COUNTER THAT WHICH WE HAVE.
UM, UH, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO STICK WITH THAT.
SCOTT, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? YOU WANNA STICK WITH THE ORDINANCE? I WOULD STICK WITH THE ORDINANCE.
STEVE, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I WANNA, I CALLED THE ORDINANCE.
ALRIGHT, FELIX, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? UM, I'M STILL ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE FENCE.
UH, I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE, IF, IF IT WERE TO PASS, UH, THE 65 FOOT, UH, WHAT WOULD TEXT, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING TO, TO STOP IT EVEN IF WE ACCEPT IT? MM-HMM.
AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, WHY 65 FEET? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT, UH, HOW IS THAT GONNA BENEFIT? WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WROTE OUR APPLICATION, WE WROTE 75 FEET.
GIVEN THAT IS THE SIZE OF THE OTHER SIGNAGE ON THE PROPERTY, THERE IS SIGNAGE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT ON THE PROPERTY AT 36 FEET, NOT ONLY JUST A MILE AWAY FROM US.
WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE HIGHWAY, YOU DO NOT SEE IT.
UM, AND SO THAT IS THE STANDARD ON THAT ROAD.
I UNDERSTAND THE SIGN DISTRICT A IS ALSO ALONG THAT WOOD ROAD.
UM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE THINK OUR VARIANCE REQUEST IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY TO CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF REQUEST IN THE FUTURE FOR BUSINESSES ON THIS ROAD AS ROSENBERG DEVELOPS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR BUSINESS ITSELF, GIVEN THE ARGUMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AND REVIEW THE, THE STANDARD ON THIS STRETCH.
ANYWAY, WHAT'S YOUR OTHER QUESTION, FELIX? THAT THAT'S IT.
JUST, UH, IF TECH STOCK WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP US FROM APPROVING IT.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, IF, UH, UH, BASICALLY JUST WHY 65? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF 65 AND NOT 36? YEAH, WELL 'CAUSE IT WAS TALLER THAN 36.
RICHARD, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? I, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY WITH, WITH THE, THE ORDINANCE.
AND, AND MOSTLY WE, UH, JUST STICK WITH WHAT OUR COMMITTEES ARE, UH, RECOMMENDING, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE DON'T, WOULDN'T NEED THEM.
SO, GEORGE, DO WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? YOU, YOU WANNA STICK WITH 36 OR RAISE THEM TO, TO 65, HUH? THE WAY IT IS.
NOW THIS BEING SAID, WE CAN, WELL, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY DENY YOUR DEAL, BUT JUST SO THAT YOU DON'T THINK IT'S FALLING UPON DEAF EARS, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF THE GROUP WISHES IN THE FUTURE TO DISCUSS MAYBE THIS AREA, THE STRIP, TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE ADJUST THAT FUTURE REFERENCE UP FOR GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE MORE RELIEF THAN 36 MAY ASK A QUESTION, MR. MAYOR.
IF THE GROUP DOES DISCU, UM, DECIDE TO DISCUSS, AND I KNOW THIS WILL TAKE TIME.
IS IT WITHIN THE UDC OR THE AUDIENCES THAT WE MAY RE-REQUEST A VARIANT AT THAT TIME? I ASK ONLY TO,
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AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AS CITIZENS, SO ROSENBERG AND A NEW BUSINESS, WELL, YOU WON'T HAVE CONCERNED IF WE ADJUST IT UP.IF, IF YOU AGREE TO WHATEVER WE DO, THEN YOU WON'T NEED A VARIANCE.
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? UNDERSTOOD.
HOW, HOW I I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LIMIT ON A NUMBER OF TIMES.
YOU CAN, UH, REQUEST A VARIANCE.
SO I MEAN, UNLESS IF IT'S DENIED BY PREJUDICE, WHICH, BUT THEY CHARGE YOU EACH TIME YOU DO IT WELL, AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS A RULE CHANGE, YOU COULD JUST REQUEST A, A NEW VARIANCE.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY, ANY PROBATION, ANY, NO.
RICHARD, WHAT ELSE? UM, YOU MENTIONED BRINGING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE TIME, BUT IN WHAT? CHANGING THE ORDINANCE? NO, IT, IT, IT A WORKSHOP TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE THING.
IF WE HAD, IF TWO, THREE OTHER PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY, WELL WE REALLY WOULDN'T NEED SOME RELIEF ON THAT.
SOMETIMES WHERE THERE'S SMOKE, THERE'S FIRE.
MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
UM, HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO YOUR TIMELINE? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO KNOW BY IS WHAT I'M ASKING? I I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY WILL BE IN DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR.
AND SO KNOWING HOW SIGN DEVELOPMENT GOES, I THINK WE'D HAVE A FEW MONTHS.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU WAIT ON GETTING YOUR SIGN AND MAYBE YOU CAN GET, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS, PERHAPS WE CAN ADJUST THOSE.
NO GUARANTEES, BUT NO NEED TO GO OUT AND RUSH EXCEPT FOR THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING GOING UP EVERY DAY IN THAT REGARD.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT TYPE OF DISCUSSION.
I THINK OTHER BUSINESSES COMING INTO THAT AREA WOULD ALSO, YEAH.
HEY, ONE OTHER THING I WANNA SAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN ROSENBERG TO BEGIN WITH.
AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR BUSINESS.
WE WISH YOU TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE HOPE THAT THE STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCOMMODATING.
BEING AS ACCOMMODATING AS THEY CAN WITH, UH, WITH THE ORDINANCES AND STUFF.
DON'T, DON'T THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT SYMPATHETIC TO YOUR COURSE, TO YOUR CAUSE.
SO DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION? YOU, YOU CAN EITHER TABLE THE ITEM, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD COME BACK, OR YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IT.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY? I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.
MOTION MADE BY AMANDA TO DENY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? VOICE VOTE OR PUSH VOTE.
SO RIGHT NOW UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WE'LL LOOK OVER, I MEAN, UH, WE'LL WE, WE WILL DENY THAT, BUT WE'LL RECONSIDER IT POSSIBLY IF WE ADJUST THE, UH, THE HEIGHT.
[5. Consideration of and action on appointments to the Planning Commission. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary) ]
FIVE, CONSIDERATION AND APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.THE TERMS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE EXPIRED.
THE COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS RELATED TO LAND USE, SUBDIVISION PLATS, AND LONG RANGE PLANNING.
THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE WAYNE POL DRAG, ANTHONY CHU LOCK, JOHN BURLINGAME, TIM CREW, CECILIO MORENO, MARINETTE RICHARDSON, SCOTT.
THERE'S A POSITION THAT'S VACANT AND THE EX-OFFICIO IS COUNCILOR STEVE DEGORIO.
COUNCIL ACTION IS NECESSARY TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S CHARTER.
SECTION 7.02, WHICH STATES THE CITY COUNCIL MAY APPOINT A PLANNING COMMISSION CONSISTING OF SEVEN MEMBERS AND UP TO TWO EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS WHO SHALL BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG SHALL SERVE WITHOUT COMPENSATION AND SHALL NOT HOLD ANY OTHER POSITION IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY SPECIAL TASK FORCE OR TEMPORARY COMMITTEE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SCHEDULED TO MEET NEXT ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 15TH.
CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ELIGIBLE MEMBERS WHO TERMS HAVE EXPIRED, AS WELL AS ANY NEW APPOINTMENTS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY COUNSEL.
I DID REACH OUT TO THE CURRENT MEMBERS.
THEY ALL WILLING TO, UM, BE REAPPOINTED EXCEPT JOHN BURLINGAME.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, OTHER RESIDENTS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, ALICIA CAIA, SUSAN OTIN, ALEX STATON, JAMES ISH.
AND I JUST RECEIVED AN APPLICATION BY EMAIL, UM, LATE TODAY FROM A SUE YEN WONG.
SHE, UM, OR HE, UM, EXPRESSED INTEREST.
SO COUNSEL MAY REAPPOINT CURRENT MEMBERS, APPOINT NEW MEMBERS FROM THE LIST OF INTERESTED RESIDENTS, SUGGEST OTHER RESIDENT APPOINTMENTS OR MAKE ANY COMBINATION OF APPOINTMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S, UH, POLICIES GOVERNING THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, WE, WE, I THOUGHT WE AGREED WE WERE NOT GOING TO SEEK APPLICANTS.
WE WERE JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO RECRUIT AND
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THAT'S, I THINK WAS THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL.ANYBODY THAT YOU APPOINT TONIGHT, I HAVE TO GO GET AN APPLICATION FROM AND DO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
WELL, YOU SAID SOMEBODY APPLIED.
THEY'VE, UM, SHOWED INTEREST VOICED, YES, THEY'VE VOICED INTEREST IN SERVING.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO AVOID THE DRAMA.
WHERE DID SHE, SHE FIND AN APPLICATION OUT? DID SHE MAKE HER OWN ON OUR WEBSITE? WHY ARE HER APPLICATIONS WE REQUESTED FOR RDC AND FOR RC PARKS.
BUT SHE MUST HAVE SAW THAT SHE PUT IN FOR PLANNING AS WELL.
WELL, I, I HAVE KINDA LOOKED AT THIS.
I'VE LOOKED ATTENDANCE, I'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME PEOPLE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, WAYNE PORACK, CECILIA MARINO, TIM CREW, MARIETTA ROBINSON, SCOTT AND SHERRY HORN SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION NOW THAT DOES STILL LEAVE A VACANT THAT WE CAN APPOINT LATER ON? TWO VACANTS CORRECT.
THAT WE CAN APPOINT LATER ON WHEN WE KIND OF PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THINGS TOGETHER.
YEAH, WHEN WE HAVE TIME TO GET GO THROUGH.
WE JUST NEED TO KEEP, WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMISSION GOING SO THAT THEY CAN FUNCTION.
BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, WE DO HAVE TWO EX OFFICIO MEMBERS.
UM, COUNCILOR DEORIO IS ONE OF THEM.
SO IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THEM IN YOUR MOTION.
STEVE, DO YOU STILL WANT TO BE LISTED? UM, FOR NOW.
AND JUST, AND JUST LET ME STATE THAT WHEN THIS COMMITTEE AND RDC ARE THE TWO, I THINK IMPORTANT COMMITTEES WHEN YOU COMMIT, WE NEED TO ATTEND.
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ATTEND.
THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT ALWAYS GOES ON THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE MINUTES.
AND THAT'S FOR OUR DC AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA COMMIT, COMMIT, SO IF YOU, IF YOU ARE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT YOU CAN'T BE ON ANY OTHER COMMISSION.
SO I MAY HAVE TO DROP OUT OF THAT AND YOU CAN'T VOTE.
OH, WHERE DO I SIGN UP FOR THAT? YEAH.
NO, BUT IT'S STILL GOOD TO LISTEN TO ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT PROBABLY GOES ON THAT WE NEVER HEAR THAT COULD BE PASSED ALONG TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT NEVER SHOW UP IN THE MINUTES.
WELL, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED? GEORGE, WOULD YOU, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE, RIGHT? AS, AS A NON-VOTING MEMBER.
AND, AND MAYOR, IF I CAN ADD ONE THING TO THAT.
SO YOU MENTIONED FIVE MEMBERS, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.
SO OUR, OUR RULES SAY, UH, IT'LL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU GO A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN, IT SAYS IF THERE'S ANY VACANCIES, COUNSEL HAS TO APPOINT THOSE WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SO IF WE APPOINT FIVE TONIGHT, WITHIN 30 DAYS, WE NEED TO APPOINT TWO MORE.
AND I MISSED ONE AND I APOLOGIZE.
I MEANT TO ADD ANTHONY OCK TO THAT AT THIS POINT.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE ONE MORE VACANT.
ONE MORE THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITHIN 30 DAYS.
COULD YOU RESTATE THOSE NAMES, PLEASE? YES.
UH, WAYNE POL, CECILIA MARINO, TIM CREW, MARIETTA RICHARDSON.
SCOTT ANTHONY SLAC AND SHERRY HORN.
WHO WILL SECOND HER MOTION? I, RICHARD DID.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? SO WE WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME, I'M SORRY, CIRCLING BACK TO THE EX OFFICIO.
I KNOW HE, UM, COUNCILOR DIGGER SAID HE WOULD BE INTERESTED.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT I THINK HE, HE CHOSE TO, RIGHT? WELL HE SAID HE MAY HAVE TO BALANCE WELL FOR NOW THAT IF GEORGE WOULD YOU RATHER DO IT? WELL THERE'S TWO EX OFFICIO SPACES IF YOU WANT, BUT NONE OF THEM CAN VOTE.
DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHO? I MEAN? WELL, HOW ABOUT GEORGE AND STEVE? HOW'S THAT? WELL, HE JUST SAID, DO YOU WANT BE ON IT? OKAY.
YOU DON'T WANNA BE ON IT, STEVE? I WANNA BE SO I CAN'T BE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST DO, GEORGE, CAN YOU AMEND YOUR DEAL TO ALLOW GEORGE AND FICANO IS GEORGE SPTO? ALRIGHT, THAT'S YOUR MOTION.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH SECONDARY MOTION? ALRIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
WE WILL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA WITHIN 30 DAYS TO ADD THE SEVENTH PERSON.
UH, ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER, JUST A SECOND.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK IF IT'S OKAY.
AND MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE THE TIME THAT WE'RE COMING BACK.
WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AROUND 7 55, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
YOU, YOU HAVE TO GIVE A CERTAIN TIME JUST IN CASE ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO LEAVE.
THEY ALRIGHT, WE'LL MAKE IT AN EVEN EIGHT O'CLOCK.
HOW'S THAT? GIVE US A LITTLE TIME.
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HAVE A SECOND TO GO.ALRIGHT, IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK AND AMANDA'S ANXIOUS, SO WE'LL GET INTO THE, I LIKE TO BE ON TIME.
[6. Review and discuss the City Council Rules of Procedure (Nineteenth Revision), and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Brandon Morris, City Attorney) ]
SIX, REVIEW AND DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURES AND TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY.UH, DANIELLE, DID YOU WANNA READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? I WILL.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOT MY, MY NAME ON IT IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR.
HERE IS YOUR MY TIME TO SHINE, HUH? YEP.
SHOW, SHOW OFF THAT I KNOW HOW TO READ.
ALRIGHT, YOU NEED TO READ THAT ONE TOO.
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 39 42 ADOPTED THE 19TH AMENDMENT OF THE CITY OF ROSENBERG CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE, THE RELATED RESOLUTION AND MINUTE EXCERPT NOT INCLUDED WITH THIS ITEM ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE 19 REVISION IS ATTACHED FOR REFERENCE.
STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA CHANGE? YOU SUGGEST ANY CHANGES? UM, WELL HE, I'LL TELL YOU MY SUGGESTION IN A, AFTER I EXPLAINED, UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE, WELL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN ME, YOU AND STEVE GOT BACK ON COUNCIL, SOME RULES HAD CHANGED AND WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GIVEN TO US, BUT WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PACKET.
BUT, UH, THERE WAS CHANGES ABOUT, UH, TABLING ITEMS AND, UH, JUST ALL KINDS OF FUNNY, CONVOLUTED WHAT THINGS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A HAVE A QUORUM TO GET SOMETHING PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA BEFORE YOU PUT IT.
UH, MY SUGGESTION TONIGHT WILL END UP BEING TO LIKE PRESS THE RESET BUTTON AND UH, PUT IT BACK TO THE ROBERT RULE ROBERT'S RULES AND JUST START ALL OVER AND JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT FOR, FOR ALL THE ITEMS OR FOR TABLING? FOR, FOR THE EVERYTHING.
AND W WITH, IF I CAN JUST ADD ONE THING.
SO FOR TABLING IN PARTICULAR, THE WAY ROBERT'S RULES ARE WRITTEN, DON'T EXACTLY WORK FOR US BECAUSE OF, UH, OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
SO UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, IF YOU TABLE AN ITEM, YOU THEN HAVE A MOTION AND A VOTE OF FOUR MEMBERS TO BRING IT BACK EITHER AT THE SAME MEETING OR AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS UNDER TOOMA, WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE YOU COULD EVEN HAVE A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK FROM THE TABLE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON OUR RULE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THAT.
UM, I MEAN, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE PROBLEMATIC TO EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS TABLED, IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES ON THE NEXT NEXT AGENDA AND THEN YOU CAN EITHER TALK ABOUT IT OR NOT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
WELL, I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THERE WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, BUT SOME, THE VOTE WAS LOST, UM, OR ONE, OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT.
UM, IT WAS FOUR TO THREE AND SOME THINGS CHANGED LATER ON AND SOMEBODY WANTED TO BRING IT BACK UP.
BUT IF YOU WERE NOT ONE OF THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR IT, YOU COULDN'T DO IT.
WHICH IT WASN'T LIKE THAT BEFORE.
REMEMBER THAT? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.
BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ODD RULE TOO.
SO, SO FOR A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IT DOES, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE EITHER BEEN ABSENT OR HAVE VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY IN ORDER TO BRING THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE AS LONG.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE LIMITED BY IS TOMA.
OTHER THAN THAT, COUNSEL CAN MAKE THEIR OWN RULES.
UH, WHAT IS TOMA? TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
WELL WE NEED IT WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN BRING SOMETHING UP.
HOW, HOW CAN WE SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
NO, NO, BUT YOU KNOW, SEE ROBERT'S RULES OF, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T DO IT AND SAY GO BY ROBERT'S RULES ONLY BECAUSE SOME OF IT HAS CHANGED.
NOW THE, THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED.
BASICALLY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER HAS OUTLIVED ITS, ITS, UH, USEFULNESS IN SOME REGARDS.
IT'S STILL USEFUL, BUT PEOPLE USE IT.
SHE'S GOT, YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO USE.
THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA MENTION.
ROBERT'S RULES GREAT SET OF RULES.
THEY ARE HELPFUL BOOKS ABOUT THIS THICK, YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES.
YEAH, IT, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY'S GONNA MEMORIZE THE WHOLE THING.
IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD FALLBACK.
I THINK WITH THIS COUNSEL, RICHARD, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE
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IS GONNA HAVE TROUBLE GETTING ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE WAY IT SITS RIGHT NOW, IT IT, IT WOULD, I MEAN, UM, THE LAST ITEM WE VOTED ON, WHATEVER IT WAS, IT, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT COULD BRING IT UP EVER IS THE FOUR THAT WON THE VOTE.SO THAT'S WHAT MY BUT BUT IF, WHAT IF I WANTED TO BRING IT UP A MONTH LATER AND I WASN'T ON THE WINNING END OF THAT VOTE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AS LONG AS I'M THERE.
IF YOU ASKED TO PUT IT ON WINNING, I, I NEVER, WELL, YOU COULDN'T KNOW.
IT WOULDN'T WORK THAT WAY BECAUSE IF IT, IT DEPENDS HOW YOU VOTED.
AM I CORRECT, BRANDON? SO IF, IF ME, GEORGE AND BILLY VOTED, IF IT'S A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, IT DOES.
SO IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU ALREADY VOTED ON AND PASSED OR VOTED ON AND FAILED, THEN YOU, IT DOES DEPEND ON HOW YOU VOTED.
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN IN THE MAJORITY OR BEEN ABSENT? SO, BUT, BUT COULDN'T SOMEONE ASK ONE OF THE MAJORITY MEMBERS YOU PUT COULD THE THE REQUIREMENT'S JUST THAT SOMEONE IN THE MAJORITY OR ABSENT MAKES A MOTION.
THAT'S IF WE ALL, BUT IF YOU WERE NOT, UM, IF YOU WERE NOT IN THE MAJORITY, YOU CANNOT.
IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, ME, YOU AND GEORGE VOTED ONE WAY AND THEY VOTED THE OTHER IN ONE.
WE COULD NEVER HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'LL HAPPEN WITH THIS COUNCIL.
AND BY THE TIME THEY HAVE THE NEXT COUNCIL, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO REDO ALL THE RULES ANYWAY.
AND, AND FOR RECONSIDERATION, IT ACTUALLY IS THE SAME RULE UNDER ROBERT'S RULES.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY.
UM, AND IT ACTUALLY DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, THE, THE SAME THING WE HAVE ABOUT A MEMBER WHO IS ABSENT CAN VOTE TO BRING IT BACK.
SO ROBERT'S RULE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE ON OKAY, BUT RECONSIDERATION.
OKAY, BUT ALSO COULDN'T THE SAME THREE IN THE MINORITY CALL A SPECIAL MEETING? THEY COULD CALL A SPECIAL, NOT NOT ABOUT THAT ITEM.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE RULE SAYS.
NO, THAT, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU COULD CALL THE SPECIAL MEETING, YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WAS EITHER ABSENT OR VOTED IN THE MAJORITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER IT.
SO YOU CAN'T, IT'S IT'S LOCKED OUT FOREVER UNLESS YOU GET SOMEBODY TO PUT IT ON THERE FOR YOU.
THAT WAS IN THE, I GOTTA, I GOTTA ASK ONE OF YOU TO PUT IT ON
WELL WHY CAN'T YOU ASK? WELL, BECAUSE YOU WERE, IF YOU HYPOTHETICALLY HE'S NOT MAKE US MAD AND WE WON'T DO IT.
UH, THAT AND THE OTHER ONE ABOUT WHEN WE TABLE SOMETHING, IT HAS TO BE ON THE VERY NEXT MEETING.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THAT, BUT IT'S SO USING TABLE AS KIND OF A GENERAL TERM, IT ACTUALLY SPLITS INTO SOME OTHER THINGS.
SO YOU CAN EITHER TABLE IT, WHICH MEANS IT COMES BACK AT, UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR MEMBERS REQUEST TO BRING IT BACK.
YOU CAN ALSO POSTPONE IT TO A TIME CERTAIN, SO YOU CAN SAY MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR UNTIL, YOU KNOW, JULY 10TH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY.
IF YOU DO THAT, THEN IT COMES BACK THEN.
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO A TIME CERTAIN, WHICH IS THE SAME THING AS A MOTION TO TABLE.
IT'S JUST YOU DETERMINE THEN WHEN IT'S COMING BACK.
I GOT A CARTOON GOING ON OVER HERE.
SOMEBODY SABOTAGED MY DEAL HERE ANYWAYS.
WHAT RICHARD? UH, WELL JUST MAKE THE, WHATEVER YOUR SUGGESTED IS, BRANDON, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? JUST THOSE TWO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE RESET IT OR I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BOOK.
YOU JUST HELD UP SO, UH, I DIDN'T READ IT AND I'LL ADMIT, UM, SO IS IT SO EVEN, SO THE WAY OUR RULES ARE NOW, COUNCIL RULES CONTROL OR UH, SORRY, WE FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES UNLESS COUNCIL RULES SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE PLACE TO CHANGE, IT WOULD JUST BE IN THE COUNCIL RULES.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TO WHERE, UH, AN ITEM CAN BE RECONSIDERED BY ANYONE, YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THAT IN COUNCIL RULES.
UM, AND SAME FOR, HOW ABOUT MO MAKE A MOTION THAT NIGHT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULE THAT AT THAT TIME, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING.
IT'S, AND THAT'S IN OUR RULES AS WELL.
IT'S TWO THIRDS OF COUNCIL CAN ALWAYS, THE RULES, IT'S FIXED TO ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T ADDRESS.
YOU COULD, WE CAN VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULE THAT NIGHT.
YOU JUST SAY, HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST FIX IT AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN FIX IT.
WELL HE SAID HE WAS EXPLAINING THAT YOU CAN WHEN YOU SAID NOT TO DO THAT.
BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE FAIL SAFE.
THE FAIL SAFE IS ANY RULE WE HAVE, WE COULD SUSPEND IF SOMETHING WE DON'T THINK ABOUT NOW OR HE DOESN'T THINK ABOUT, WE COULD JUST SUSPEND IT AT THAT TIME.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE MAJORITY TO SUSPEND IT, THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA WELL YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE MAJORITY.
THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO GET RID OF.
I I, I WANT IT SO THAT ANYBODY CAN BRING UP AN ITEM AT ANY TIME.
I DON'T, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO ADD TO THAT.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? HE WAS EXPLAINING.
SO YEAH, WE, WE CAN JUST CHANGE OUR RULES TO WHERE, UH, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER
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CAN BRING A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION, WHETHER THEY WERE IN THE MAJORITY OR NOT.AND AS FAR AS TABLING AN ITEM, UM, I MEAN YOU, YOU COULD MAKE IT TO WHERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN REQUEST IT COMES BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN IT WOULD JUST GO ON THE AGENDA.
SO THE FOUR THAT WOULD VOTE TO TABLE, IT WOULD SET A DATE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT.
THAT WOULD BE POSTPONING TO A DATE CERTAIN, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY AKIN TO TABLING.
IT'S JUST YOU'RE TABLING TO A DATE.
YEAH, BEFORE I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WE WOULD TABLE IT AND IT WAS JUST LEFT IN THE OPEN AND IT COULD POP UP ANY TIME.
AND THE WAY IT IS NOW, IT COULD POP UP AT ANY TIME.
YOU JUST NEED FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REQUEST IT.
SO WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT NUMBER DOWN FROM FOUR TO ONE SO IT'S TABLED UNTIL ANYONE REQUESTS FOR IT TO COME BACK AS OPPOSED TO NEEDING FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BRING IT BACK.
SO WE NEED A MOTION RIGHT NOW.
I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT AND, AND THIS IS JUST FOR JUST DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION TONIGHT.
SO ANYTHING YOU BRING UP THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE, I'LL MAKE THE CHANGES, BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN Y'ALL CAN VOTE ON IT THEN.
SO FOR, UH, WELL WHY DON'T RICHARD, UH, CONTACT YOU AND THAT, MAKE SURE Y'ALL CAN GET THAT HASH OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOUR WORDING IS.
WELL THE ONLY THING I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.
I'M SURE IT PROBABLY WON'T GET PASSED OR ADDED INTO THE RULES OF CONDUCT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, DID I NOT BE MAYOR NO MORE? NO, BUT YOU DO NEED TO BEHAVE YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT.
NO, MY ISSUE IS, AND I SAW THIS WHEN I WAS A CITIZEN AS WELL, BUT I SEE IT AGAIN AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN WE ARE UP HERE AT A COUNCIL MEETING, WE DON'T NEED TO BE ON OUR PHONES.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE TEXTING UNLESS YOU HAVE A FAMILY DYING EMERGENCY.
WELL, MAJORITY OF THE TIME YOU DON'T.
WELL THAT'S GETTING, I I JUST, LEMME TALK.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A PHONE CALL AND YOU WALK OUT OF THIS DAAS, SOMEONE'S PRESENTING SOMETHING TO YOU, IT'S RUDE.
UM, WE WERE PRESENTED WITH MAPS AND ADDRESSES.
I, I LOOKED UP WHERE THESE FOLKS LIVE.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT SOME OF US, IT IT'S PERSONAL BUSINESS OR IT MIGHT BE BUSINESS, BUSINESS, MAYBE NOT COUNCIL BUSINESS, BUT IT LOOKS, PEOPLE CAN MAKE ACCUSATIONS.
WHAT ARE YOU TEXTING? WHAT ARE YOU DONE? ARE YOU RECORDING? AND EVEN IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE DO SHOULDN'T BE ON OUR PHONES.
THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE EXTRA CAREFUL.
'CAUSE I THINK WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE PRESENTING STUFF, WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR CITIZENS OR BUSINESSES AND WE ARE PIDDLING WITH OUR PHONES EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR WHERE IT IS.
'CAUSE THEY USUALLY HAVE A MAP OR I ASK, WE SHOULDN'T BE ON OUR PHONES.
I THINK IT IS RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL.
I THINK WE SHOULD AND WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT CONDUCT COUNSEL.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE THE PHONE POLICE ANYWAYS, SO I MEAN, I'M NOT A PAID EMPLOYEE.
NOBODY, NOBODY'S GONNA TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
YOU'RE HERE TO BE REPRESENTATIVE BY THE CITIZENS.
IF SOMEBODY TO MAKE OR TAKE A CALL, THEY COULD STEP OUT.
WELL I THINK IT'S RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY, IF, IF YOUR KIDS CALL YOU OR YOUR GRANDKIDS AND I WILL NOT ANSWER THE PHONE WHEN I'M HERE IN A MEETING.
BUT IF YOU DID, I WOULDN'T OBJECT.
WELL IT, ANYWAYS, IT GETS A BIT TOO MUCH.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, ADDITIONS OR CHANGES THAT PEOPLE NEED TO OR WISH TO SUGGEST FOR THE CODE OF PROCEDURES? NOW'S THE TIME.
AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS A, UH, UH, A MO A FLOWING DOCUMENT THAT COULD BE CHANGED AT ANY, ANY TIME.
SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY LAX HERE THAT WE COULD,
[7. Hold Executive Session to deliberate the potential purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property pursuant to section 551.072; for economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code; and, to consult with City Attorney to seek legal advice regarding pending or contemplated litigation pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code. ]
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.ALRIGHT, CAN WE BRING OUR PHONES? NO, I'M KIDDING.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO MAKE SMART.
MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WELL WHO WILL SECOND THE MOTION? I SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[8. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Regular Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session. ]
OKAY, WE WILL RECONVENE.MOTION TO RECONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, A REGULAR SESSION.
DIRECT STAFF AND MAYOR, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING BACK INTO OPEN, UH, 8:45 PM THANK YOU SIR.
I'LL SECOND MOTION TO ADJOURN.
TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, I SHOULD SAY.