* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY, [00:00:02] SO WE'LL GET TO [ Call to order:  City Hall Council Chamber  ] Y'ALL IN JUST A MINUTE. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER RIGHT NOW. WE DO HAVE, IS IT BRIAN BRUNSON? YES. BRUNSON. ALRIGHT, WELCOME MR. BRUNSON. WE ARE GONNA GET YOU TO SAY THE, UH, INVOCATION LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. I PRAY THAT YOU BE COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY AND THE MAYOR. I PRAY FOR THIS COUNCIL THAT THEY'LL WORK TOGETHER, BE GRACIOUS WITH ONE ANOTHER FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOUS HANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR. ALRIGHT, WE [ Announcements. ] GOT SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE'LL START WITH THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MENTION REGARDING ANNOUNCEMENTS. GEORGE YESTERDAY. WELL, THAT'S NOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, OKAY. YOU CAN ANNOUNCE IT, I GUESS. AMANDA? UM, NO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THOUGH IT IS COUNCILOR UH, FELIX'S BIRTHDAY. SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO FELIX. WELL, THAT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, FELIX, HAPPY . NO, WE'RE, WE WON'T DO THAT. WE WON'T EMBARRASS YOU, BUT HAPPY BIRTHDAY. NO, DON'T MAKE US THING. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU EVERYONE. WE'LL TRY TO GET OUTTA HERE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE SO YOU CAN GET BACK TO YOUR PARTY IN FESTIVITIES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THERE'S A RULE THOUGH. WHAT'S THAT? YOU CAN'T HAVE A PARTY WITHOUT THE MAYOR. YOU DON'T INVITE. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. IT'S A, IT'S A, UH, IT'S NOT JUST UNSPOKEN RULE. IT'S NOT JUST A LOCAL THING. IT'S A FEDERAL THING TOO. SO, ANYWAYS, UM, SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NOPE. STEVE? NOPE. YEP. ALRIGHT, WELL I GOT A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE. THE FIRST ONE, I BROKE THESE GLASSES, SO I'LL TRY TO COPE. PETSMART EVENT SET AUGUST 22ND AND THAT'S GONNA BE THIS SATURDAY ADOPTION EVENT. JOIN THIS SATURDAY. JOIN US THIS SATURDAY, AUGUST 22ND FOR THE PETSMART ADOPTION EVENT WITH WAIVED ADOPTION FEES FROM FOUR, I'M SORRY, FROM NOON TO FOUR AT 16 THOU. 1 6 7 5 8 SOUTHWEST FREEWAY IN SUGAR LAND. A WEEK FROM THAT DAY IS A SHELTER EVENT SET FOR AUGUST 29TH AT THE ROSENBERG ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER ADOPTION EVENT. AUGUST 29TH EVENT, UH, WITH WAIVED ADOPTION FEES FROM 11 TO THREE. ADDRESS IS 1207 BLOOM ME ROAD. FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CALL THE SHELTER. UH, THEIR PHONE NUMBER IS (832) 595-3490. MOTHER SON DANCE. GOOD. IT'S COMING BACK TO THE ROSENBERG CIVIC CENTER. NEWLY RENOVATED CIVIC CENTER. THAT IS SEPTEMBER THE NINE, I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER THE 18TH FROM SIX TO NINE. UM, TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW. FOR MORE INFORMATION YOU CAN VISIT ROSENBERG TX.GOV. THEY AIN'T DOING ME NO GOOD NOW. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S IT ON THOSE. SO WE'VE [ GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. Citizens who have registered with the City Secretary prior to the meeting being called to order and desire to address the City Council with comments of a general nature, as it relates to the City of Rosenberg, will be heard at this time. Speakers may speak on up to three (3) specific agenda items, or a maximum of once during General Comments and up to two (2) additional specific agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three (3) minutes, except that a speaker who addresses the City Council through a translator is limited to six (6) minutes. Speakers are not allowed to distribute documentation while addressing City Council. Speakers making personal, impertinent, profane or slanderous remarks may be removed from the room and shall be barred from reentering the Chamber during the session of City Council. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the City Council is restricted from discussing or taking action on items not listed on the agenda. It is our policy to have all speakers identify themselves by providing their name and residential address when making comments. ] GOT A, WE GOT A SPEAKER UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS. MR. PAYNE. MR. PAYNE, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP TO THE DEAL THERE? TELL US WHAT IS ON YOUR MIND TONIGHT? MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE [00:05:02] IS THAT GREEN LIGHT ON THAT LITTLE GREEN LIGHT. ALRIGHT. GO LIKE THIS AND SEE IF IT, THERE YOU GO. GO LIKE THIS. TEST IT. IT AIN'T ON PUSH, PUSH THE BUTTON. PUSH. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO COME AND, AND, UH, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SANITATION FOR THE CITY FOR DIS DISINFECTING. THE, THE SIR COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? ANTHONY PAYNE. 4 9 0 1 COTTER LANE. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. GO AHEAD. I WANTED TO DISCUSS SANITIZING THE, THE TRASH DUMPSTERS, NOT THE CANS, THE DUMPSTER, THE DUMPSTERS AND THE DUMPSTER PADS. UM, AND, UH, IT'S REALLY CALLED PREVENTATIVE DISINFECTION. IT'S REALLY NEEDED BECAUSE VIRUSES AND FOODBORNE BACTERIA AND ILLNESS ARE COMMONLY FOUND IN AND AROUND DUMPSTERS AND DUMPSTER PADS. DUMPSTER AND DUMPSTER PADS ARE FULL OF FOUL ODORS LOADED WITH VIRUSES AND BACTERIA. THEY ATTRACT FLIES, FLIES CREATE MAGGOTS AND IT CREATES A BAD FIRST IMPRESSION. HERE IN ROSENBERG. WE WANNA MAKE GREAT FIRST IMPRESSIONS. SANITIZING DECREASES UNHEALTHY RISKS LIKE COVID AND FLU TO EMPLOYEES AND THE PUBLIC CLEAN UP SPACES, MAKE HEALTHIER PLACES. WHAT'S THE MATTER? IT'S NOT, BUT I CAN MAKE, IT'S MY PRISON CAN LIKE, AROUND IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES AND THINGS JUST AROUND TOWN OR ALL THE, ALL OF THE, THE SITES WHERE THE CITY OF ROSENBERG HAVE, OKAY. MM-HMM . HE'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO WE CAN'T, I WELL, I'M SORRY. KEEP TRYING TO ASK HIM AND WHERE HE WAS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM. THANK YOU. MR. PAYNE. AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER, WE CAN'T DISCUSS, BUT, UH, RICO'S HERE. IF YOU CAN GIVE HIM YOUR CARD, MAYBE, UM, THAT MIGHT HELP. AND RIGO, WHAT CAN YOU GIVE HIM YOUR CARD, YOUR NUMBER? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SET UP NOW. OKAY. OKAY, MR. MERRITT, YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, SO WE'LL BE TO THAT IN A MINUTE. THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO SPEAKERS WE HAD. UH, UH, YEAH, JUST HOLD WHAT YOU GOT. ALRIGHT, SO NOW LET'S [ CONSENT AGENDA  ] GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SEE WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. THANK YOU. UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY WISHES TO PULL DOWN? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT D AND E. D AND E. OKAY. SO WE COULD PULL DOWN D AND E INTO NUMBER TWO. TWO A, TWO A, D, AND E. OKAY. ASIDE FROM D AND E, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE CONSENT? UH, MOST OF IT HAS TO DO WITH EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. ASHLEY, ASHLEY, ASHLEY, MOHAMMED. LET'S SEE. MOHAMMED. ASHLEY. ASHLEY, WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT ASHLEY? AND IT ENDS UP WITH LOUIS. ALRIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE OTHER ITEMS? OKAY, SO CAN WE APPROVE, UH, WOULD SOMEBODY MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE? MINUS, MINUS D AND E. UH, GO AHEAD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT FOR D AND E. D AND E. OKAY, I'LL SECOND IT. ALRIGHT, GOOD. Y'ALL GO AND VOTE ON IT. ALRIGHT, MOTION PASSED. NOW [D. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-39, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, granting consent to the Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 253 (Brookewater) for the sale and issuance of Unlimited Tax Bonds, Series 2026, in an amount not to exceed $2,560,000. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)  ] [E. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-40, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, granting consent to the Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 253 (Brookewater) for the sale and issuance of Unlimited Tax Road Bonds, Series 2026, in an amount not to exceed $6,800,000. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)  ] WE'LL GO TO 2D. SO GO, GO TO D IN YOUR TAB HERE. UM, AND MOHAMMAD CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. THESE ARE BOTH KIND OF THE SAME THING, RIGHT? I'M SORRY? THEY'RE BOTH, THEY'RE [00:10:01] BOTH KIND OF THE SAME THING. I GUESS MY QUESTION. YES, THEY'RE BOTH BOND SALES FOR MUD 2 53, 1 IS FOR UTILITIES AND ONE ANOTHER ONE FOR ROADS. IS THAT DEBT FOR ROSENBERG OR NO, IT'S FOR, UH, MUD 2 53, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF ETJI. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UH, DO ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON D UM, DOES, THIS IS THE CITY, I GUESS, UM, WILL THEY BE, HOW CAN I PUT IT? UM, WILL THEY HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET TO FIX ANYTHING LATER IN THE YEARS FOR LIKE, UM, BASICALLY, I GUESS, UH, ALL THESE ARE UTILITIES, CORRECT? FOR D UH, UH, ABSOLUTELY. UH, A BIG PORTION OF IT IS TO REFUND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER PLANT RIGHT WITHIN THE DISTRICT. AND THE TWO AND HALF MILLION THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FOR, NO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S FOR THE WATER UTILITIES. AND THAT 6 MILLION AND A HALF, THAT'S FOR UTILITY. MM-HMM . UM, AND, UH, THE CITY'S NOT LIABLE. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO ANNEX THIS MUD, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THEM. UH, BUT WE'RE NOT, UH, REQUIRED TO ANNEX THEM AT ANY POINT. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO ANNEX THEM IF WE WANT, IF THEY'RE FREE OF DEBT. OKAY. WE HAVE THAT, THAT ABSOLUTELY. WHICH TAKE YEARS TO YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. DON'T, DOESN'T ALL THE MUDS WORK THAT WAY? THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW THE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET EVERYTHING BUILT AND THEN PEOPLE PAY THE MUD TAX. THEY PAY THE YEAR UNTIL, YOU KNOW, END OF TIME DEBT FREE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THIS IS JUST AN, THIS ITEM IS JUST US GIVING CONSENT FOR THEM TO BORROW MONEY. IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH US. JUST CONSENT FOR THE BOND SALES, CORRECT? YEAH. IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH US. NO, NO. BUT WE HAVE, WE'RE UNDER THE CONSENT ORDINANCE THAT WE APPROVE, WE OUGHT TO APPROVE ALSO THEIR BOND SALES AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS WE'LL GO BACK. WE'LL GO TO ITEM E. WE, THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE MADE ON THIS, CORRECT? NO, NO. WE HAVE TO. OH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO. OH, YEP. HERE'S A MAYOR MOTION. DDE IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING, CORRECT? YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT D AND E SO WE HAVE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. FELIX MADE THE MOTION SECONDED BY STEVE TO APPROVE DNE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSH GREEN OR SAY GREEN OR THE OPPOSITE, WHICH IS RED, WHICHEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY. ALRIGHT, THE AYES HAVE IT. WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER [2. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2026-41, an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, providing for the limited purpose annexation of Municipal Utility District No. 155 (Bonbrook Plantation) pursuant to a Strategic Partnership Agreement with said District and Section 43.0751 of the Texas Local Government Code; imposing a Sales and Use Tax in said District; providing for severability; providing for repeal; and providing for an effective date. (Mohamed Bireima, Director of Planning)  ] TWO. NOW WE HAVE A SPEAKER, BUT BEFORE WE HAVE A SPEAKER, WE'RE GONNA, THERE WAS SOME CHANGES HERE, SIR. UH, YOU'RE THE SPEAKER, RIGHT? YOU YOU WE'RE ON WHAT? NO, WE APPROVED OF DNE. YEAH, . HE DIDN'T SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH. OH YEAH, HE SOFT SPOKEN. ALRIGHT SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAD, HEAD UP HERE AND THEN HAMMED, WOULD YOU BETTER DISCUSS THE CHANGES BEFORE? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. HANG ON, HANG ON. UM, WAIT A SECOND, SIR. HANG ON ONE SECOND. I'M GONNA READ THIS ITEM AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A SECOND AND THEN THAT MAY HELP. OKAY. CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 41, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE OF, UH, CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSEBURG, TEXAS, PROVIDING FOR LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF A MUD UTILITY DISTRICT OF 1 55, WHICH IS BOND BROOK PLANTATION PURSUANT TO STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. AND SAID DISTRICT AND SECTION, UH, 43.0 7 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IMPOSING A SALES TAX AND USE TAX IN SAID DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SO BEFORE WE GET INTO TO YOUR, UH, CONCERN, AND WE WILL DEFINITELY ADDRESS IT. WHY DON'T YOU READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. THE CITY AND FORT MAIN COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 1 55 HAVE SIGNED A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT SPA UNDER RESOLUTION NUMBER R 2217 RECORDED IN REAL [00:15:01] PROPERTY RECORDS OF FOR BEND COUNTY, TEXAS, AND THEIR COUNTY CLERKS FILE NUMBER 2 0 1 16 1 0 0 9 8 3, WHICH SETS FORTH TERMS AND ALLOWS FOR THE CITY FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT OR SPA BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DISTRICT WAS ENTERED INTO PURSUANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES AS WELL AS THE STATE LAW. CHAPTER 43, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, A VICINITY MAP OF, UH, SHOWING THE THREE COMMERCIAL TRACKS MAKING UP 4.1248 ACRES IS ATTACHED FOR REVIEW. CITY DESIRES TO ANNEX FOR LIMITED PURPOSES. THE COMMERCIAL TRACKS WITHIN THE DISTRICT PURSUANT TO THE ABOVE-REFERENCED SPOT AND SECTION 43.0 7 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THE LIMITED, LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, ALLOWS THE CITY TO IMPOSE A SALES AND USE TAX ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH 41 AS PRESENTED. WE'LL HEAR THE THE SPEAKER NOW. THIS IS, IS THIS, THANK YOU. UM, JUDGING THAT WE SET A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I GUESS I CAN ADDRESS THE BOARD. NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD, UM, SAY YOUR NAME PLEASE. I LIVE IN SIR, UH, WOULD YOU MIND, COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS DANIEL MERRITT. ALRIGHT. AND YOUR ADDRESS IN THE BOND BROOK PLANTATION. THOSE TAXES YOU ARE GOING TO, TO, UM, TRY TO GRAB A HOLD OF OR WILL BE PAID BY PEOPLE IN 1 5 5 BECAUSE WE EXIT BARNBROOK TWO WAYS. EITHER THROUGH BRIARWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD OR REEN ROAD AND BENTON ROAD AND REEN ROAD. AND BENTON ROAD IS WHERE THE ANNEXATION IS. THAT INCLUDES A DAYCARE SOON TO BE A COFFEE SHOP, A MARTIAL ARTS AND A GAS STATION THAT WE KNOW OF. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS GONNA GO IN THERE. PRIOR TO THIS AGREEMENT WAS SUPPOSEDLY MADE IN 2016 AND TODAY IS 2026. BOMB BROOK HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED IN SIZE. UM, THIS WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR 10 YEARS BECAUSE THERE WAS REALLY NO PRO, NO BUSINESSES BUILT THERE. AND NOW THAT IT'S THERE, I FEEL THE ROSEBURG WANTS TO GET THEIR MITTS ON THE MONEY. BUT WHAT ARE WE IN BOB BOOK GETTING OUT OF IT? NOTHING. I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT TO EVENTUALLY ANNEX US. I DON'T KNOW WHEN OR WHERE THAT'S GONNA OCCUR. I KNOW THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A VOTE FROM THE PEOPLE. THAT THING, THE THING THAT'S CONCERNED ME IS THAT WE WOULD'VE NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS HAPPENING. EVEN OUR MUD 1 55 BOARD DID NOT KNOW, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON NEXT DOOR. AND OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS MANAGED BY STERLING DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. THEY SAID THAT IF, UM, THAT THE ONLY WAY WE FOUND OUT IT WAS SOMEBODY, ACTUALLY MY DAUGHTER FOUND IT ON AS SHE ALSO LIVES IN THE SUBDIVISION, FOUND IT ON THE FORT BEND COUNTY WEBPAGE OR WHATEVER THEY POST ROSENBERG DIDN'T NOBODY, ROSENBERG NEVER NOTIFIED THE BOARD THAT THEY WERE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. I HEARD THAT ROSENBERG, UM, MUD 1 5 5 HAS CONTACTED THEIR LAWYERS ABOUT THIS. AND MY CONCERN IS WHY NOW? AND WHERE DOES THIS LEAD TO WANTING YOU GUYS WANTING TO, TO GET YOUR WHOLE MITTS ON US? BECAUSE THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS LIKE THE PERSON WHO MAYBE SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE FOOT BECAUSE IN LIMPING INTO TRYING TO ANNEX THIS WHEN THEY VOTE THIS IS GONNA COME UP THAT THEY GRABBED AND OFFERED NOTHING IN RETURN. THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO, THE PEOPLE AT DAYCARE HAVE THEIR FAMILIES IN THERE. PEOPLE BUY THEIR GAS AT THAT GAS STATION AND I PLAN TO BUY SOME COFFEE AT THAT COFFEE SHOP. I DON'T GET MY GAS THERE AT THAT GAS STATION. 'CAUSE THEY HAD A FUEL PROBLEM WITH WATER IN THE THING. AND A LOT OF CARS WERE DAMAGED. THAT'S ENOUGH TO KEEP ME AWAY FROM IT. MY KIDS ARE OLD. MY GRAND, MY YOUNGEST GRAND PERSON IS GRANDCHILD, IS, UH, IN HIS TEENS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO DAYCARE. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE, AND I LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE MUD WAS NEVER NOTIFIED OF THIS UNTIL IT'S SORT OF LIKE A STAB IN THE BACK OR MAYBE BACKHAND. IT WAS KIND OF LACKS A TRANSPARENCY, WHICH I HAD HOPED EVENTUALLY I, I SEE US BEING ANNEX AND IF I LIVE LONG ENOUGH, I PROBABLY WILL BE ANNEXED IN AS A CITIZEN OF ROSENBERG. AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEADS THERE GETTING, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA ANNEX AND WE WANT TO A THOUSAND. NO SIR, I'M NOT SHAKING MY HEAD. I, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT I WANT, I WANT CLARIFY SOMETHING TO YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP FIRST OF ALL, BUT DON'T LEAVE BECAUSE WE WANT [00:20:01] TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. UH, I I NOD AND SHAKE MY HEAD A LOT. IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M INCURRING OR, OR, OR OR FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING. I JUST GOT A LOT OF ENERGY. UM, ANYWAYS, UH, THE CITY, IF THE CITY, WHOEVER MAY BE HERE IN, IN FUTURE TIMES TO COME WILL NOT ANNEX MUDS THAT HAVE A LOT OF DEBT. I KNOW THAT. SO IF YOUR MUD HAS A LOT OF DEBT, UH, AND, AND IT'S NO LAW AGAINST IT. THEY CAN, THEY COULD. BUT THE LAW SAYS IF YOU ANNEX, UM, SOMETHING WITH A LOT OF DEBT, YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THEY'RE DEAD. UM, MOST OF THESE FOLKS ARE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE HERE. WE DON'T LIKE THAT. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T. AND, AND WE DON'T LIKE TO IMPOSE OURSELF ON ON FOLKS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A POINT IS, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUT I WANT YOU TO STAY THERE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO AN ANSWER, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT. BUT I, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT READING ROAD IS A CITY ROAD. BENTON ROAD IS A CITY ROAD. DO YOU EVER DRIVE ON THOSE ROADS? YES, I DO. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY PAID FOR THOSE ROADS AND ARE PAYING FOR 'EM. SO THAT, UH, SO I JUST KIND OF WANNA MAKE A POINT. SO THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS THAT YOU GET EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT DO LIVE IN THIS CITY ARE, ARE PAYING FOR. AND IT'S OKAY. WE, WE, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO RIDE DOWN THOSE ROADS. WE, WE WANT YOU TO JUST DON'T RIDE TOO FAST. BUT, UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS LET THE, THE, THE, UH, ATTORNEY, WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE AND HE'S GONNA ANSWER, UM, SOME OF THESE CONCERNS. THE MAIN ONE WAS, UH, DID, DID THE, UH, CITY GIVE PROPER NOTICE ABOUT THIS ANNEXATION? SO UNDER THE AGREEMENT, UM, THAT HE MENTIONED THAT WAS ENTERED INTO IN 2016, IT, IT SAYS THAT THE CITY AT ANY TIME CAN INSTITUTE THE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO REALLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE DONE 10 YEARS AGO. AND I, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY JUST THAT THERE WASN'T A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THERE. IT JUST WASN'T WORTH THE TROUBLE. MM-HMM . UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE DONE A DECADE AGO. OKAY. AND, UH, SO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY AGREED, UM, TO, TO, TO THIS. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS AN AGREEMENT 10 YEARS AGO THAT IF THEY EVER DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY COMMERCIAL, THAT THAT, THAT THEY COULD BE, THEY COULD BE ANNEXED. AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE MUD ITSELF. SO THE MUD BOARD AGREED TO THIS. OKAY. AND LET ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM YOUR MUD, SIR? IS THERE ANYBODY? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I WAS, WELL LET ME, LET ME JUST ASK, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THIS, FROM THIS MUD? ALRIGHT. NO, THERE'S NOT. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ONE. YES, I KNEW ABOUT THE HIGH DEBT AND WOULDN'T IT BE ANNEXED UNTIL THAT CAME OUT YEARS AGO? UM, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THE ROAD, BUT I PAY EVERY TIME I PUT A GALLON OF GAS IN, I PAY TAXES THAT GO FOR ROAD REPAIRS. NOT, NOT FOR THOSE ROADS, SIR. OKAY. NO GAS GOES FOR THOSE ROADS. THE, THIS, THIS, THERE WAS, THOSE ROADS WERE A CITY PROJECT, NOT A STATE PROJECT. THE GAS TAX CODE. YEAH. ALSO MAYBE FEDERAL AND, BUT, BUT GAS DOES NOT COVER THAT. BUT BRANDON YOU SAID, AND 'CAUSE HE WAS, HE WAS SAYING THAT HIS MUD BOARD DID NOT EVEN KNOW IT WAS THAT, IS THAT YOUR HOA THAT MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW OR THE ACTUAL MUD BOARD? NO, THEY DID, ACCORDING TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO'S ON THE BOARD SAID THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. THEY HAD THEIR MUD MEETING LAST WEEK, NO ONE TOLD 'EM ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE. AND, UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT IN 2016, NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT BOARD EXIST TODAY. EXACTLY. MAYBE UNLESS THEY'RE PART OF THE MAYBE STERLING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTED BEYOND THAT BOARD DIDN'T, DID NOT ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT. SURE, YEAH. THEY TURN THAT BE, THAT'S LIKE SATURDAY. IF EVERY ONE OF YOU YEAH. DECIDED TO RESIGN AND THEY PUT A NEW BOARD IN AND YOU HAD STUCK THEM WITH A BILLION DOLLAR DEBT, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AND THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE, AND THE 1 55 THAT STARTED THIS IN 2016, THEY AGREED TO THIS AGREEMENT. SO ANY FUTURE BOARD MEMBERS OF 1 55 ARE HELD TO THAT SAME AGREEMENT. YES. I, I SHOULD KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY. AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T LOOK, MAYBE SEE THE RESEARCH OR SEE THE, THE PAPERS OR DOCUMENTS FROM IT IN THEIR FILE. I DON'T KNOW. SO THEY HAD AT LEAST GIVEN THEM A RESPONSE AND SAID, HEY, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING [00:25:01] WITH IT AND NOT TELLING ANYBODY, EXCEPT FOR MY DAUGHTER WHO HAS A HOUSE ALSO. HOW IS THAT NORMALLY DONE WHEN THE CITY DECIDES TO ANNEX THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT BOTHERING ANY OF THE HOMES, IT'S JUST THE COMMERCIAL. AND WHEN THAT PROCESS IS STARTING, DON'T Y'ALL SEND THE NOTE? I MEAN, YOU'RE WITH THE, THE BOARD, YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THE, THE MUD, DON'T YOU? SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT, IT CERTAINLY COULD BE. USUALLY IT'S, IT'S DONE MUCH EARLIER. I I THINK THE SURPRISE IS PROBABLY MOSTLY THAT IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE THIS AGREEMENT WAS ENTERED INTO, AND IT'S A 25 YEAR AGREEMENT, UM, FOR THE INITIAL TERM. BUT I, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE DIFFERENT FOLKS IN THE SEATS AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE. SO I I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. I WOULD SAY IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT THERE'S, THE CITY DOESN'T ANNEX PROPERTY INVOLUNTARILY VIRTUALLY ANY ANYMORE AT ALL. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LAW AGAINST DOING IT NOW. THAT'S RIGHT. SO, UM, IT, BUT THIS IS, UH, I GUESS VALIDATED FROM AN OLD AGREEMENT AND THOSE, IT IS, THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE STILL VALID. IT ABSOLUTELY A STATUTE, I MEAN EXCHANGE, WE STILL ENDUR INTO THESE TODAY. I MEAN, IT IS A CONSENT ANNEXATION. IT'S ONLY AN ANNEXATION FOR LIMITED PURPOSES ANYWAY. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD'VE CHANGED MUCH. BUT I THINK I HAD A COMMON COURTESY. IF WE, IF IF A SITUATION LIKE THIS OCCURS WHERE WE WANT TO ANNEX FOLKS THAT ARE IN A MUD, I WOULD LET THE, THE MUD BOARD SURE. I WOULD GIVE THEM NOTICE TO ACT ON THIS AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED 10 YEARS AGO. NOTIFY THAT'S GOING TO START NOW. SO THEY KNOW. LET'S SEE IF ANY OF THE COUNSEL, UH, HAS, AND AMANDA, DO YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? NO, UH, I MEAN WE'VE GOT THE REVISION HERE. SO THIS IS THE CORRECTIVE, WHICH IS WHAT HE READ, I BELIEVE. UH, AND IT DOES STATE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ONLY, NOT THE HOMES. BUT I DO AGREE. I MEAN, IT'S AN OLD STANDING, YOUR CURRENT BOARD PROBABLY DID NOT KNOW, BUT I WOULD THINK AT THE CITY, IF WE'RE GOING TO START THIS PROCESS, WE SHOULD LET THAT MUD BOARD KNOW WE'RE GONNA ACT ON THIS AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED. YEAH, SURE. ON THIS DATE, THIS DATE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF A COURTESY THING, GOOD COMMUNICATION TYPE THING. SO WE DON'T HAVE THESE TYPE OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THEN IT'D BE UP TO YOUR BOARD TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. I THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO. YEAH. THIS IS NOT LIKE, OH, LAST MONTH WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT AND IT'S, IT IS HAPPENING TODAY. 10 YEARS AGO, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER IN 2016. WELL, YEAH, I DO. I BOUGHT A CAR. UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT. . BUT NO, I, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION AND, AND THAT'S PROBABLY JUST A LACK OF KIND OF COMMUNICATION. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE, ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME AND WE JUST STARTED WORKING ON IT. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH THE MUD WHEN WE'RE GONNA ACT ON THESE AGREEMENTS. SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE APOLOGIZE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LACK OF NOTICE. AND OUR STAFF, UH, HAVE WILL TAKE NOTE AND, AND IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. UM, ACCORDING TO OUR ATTORNEY, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE LEGALITY OF IT. I UNDERSTAND. AS A GENERAL RULE, I DON'T LIKE ANNEXATION. I NEVER HAVE. UM, IT'S FORCING YOUR, IN A WAY, FORCING YOURSELF UPON SOMEBODY. BUT, UM, WE WILL BE, UH, IF WHEN THIS GETS APPROVED, WE WILL DO WHAT'S, UH, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. AND, AND WE WILL ALSO, UH, DO THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN TO STRETCH THE PROCEEDS DERIVE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT. LET'S SEE IF RICHARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. GEORGE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, SCOTT? NO. STEVE? NO. FELIX? NO SIR. ALRIGHT. SO WE EITHER NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION OR MAYBE A MOTION TO REJECT THE ANNEXATION. WHAT ARE THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL? I WILL MOVE ANYBODY YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE. WE, WE APPROVE THE MOTION. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUSH GREEN. YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, IT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE. PUSH RED. NO. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION PASSED. WE WILL TRY TO BE AS GOOD A NEIGHBOR TO BRON BROOK AS WE CAN. SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR CONSIDERATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. OKAY. ITEM [3. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-4093, a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Rosenberg, Texas, authorizing an amendment to the City of Rosenberg Schedule of Fees. (Rigo Calzoncin, Assistant City Manager)  ] NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION OF AN ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 4 0 3 4 0 9 3. A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF ROSENBURG, TEXAS AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF ROSENBERG'S. [00:30:01] SCHEDULE OF FEES. JUST A SECOND. YEAH, GO AHEAD. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR JOYCE. DID THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY WERE JUST ANNEXED? HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM? WERE THEY NOTIFIED OF THIS? THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS? YEAH. NO, NOT YET. THEY'RE NOTIFIED AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, NOTIFIED, APPROVED, NOTIFIED AFTER MM-HMM . AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. THIS IS WHAT'S CALLED A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION. UHHUH. . IT'S JUST SO THAT THE CITY CAN COLLECT PART OF THE SALES TAX ON THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY PURPOSE. SO THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS NOT IN THE CITY? IT'S NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS. NO SIR. JUST THEIR PROCEEDS JUST THE SALES TAX. CORRECT. A PORTION OF THE SALES TAX. MAN, I'M I, IT IT'S, IT'S A VERY COMMON, IT'S VERY COMMON. UH, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A NUDGE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SPA AGREEMENT THAT'S GONNA HAVE, I I MEAN I THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM I'VE SEEN HAS HAD THESE TERMS. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE GENERAL, THE GENERAL TASTE OF THAT. SURE. AND THERE'S NO PROPERTY TAXES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT IS JUST COMMERCIAL SALES TAX. NO. PROPERTY TAXES? CORRECT. JUST SALES TAX. SALES TAX, WHICH IS A VOLUNTARY TAX. SURE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE ALSO SUPPLY WATER AND SEWER TO THOSE MUDS. AND THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THERE. THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME GIVE AND TAKE THERE. SO WOULD THESE FOLKS BE SPECIFIC WATER AND SEWER CUSTOMERS? YES, THEY ARE. OKAY. SO YEAH, WE ENDED UP PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT SOON. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, SO AS DISCUSSED AT THE JULY 28TH, 2026, CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP STAFF COMPLETED A REVIEW OF THE CITY SCHEDULE FEES AND RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENTS TO MULTIPLE FEE CATEGORIES TO HELP COVER THE COST OF SERVICES PROVIDED TO RESIDENTS, DEVELOPERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND OTHER CUSTOMERS. THE PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ITEMS ARE FEES RELATED TO THE CIVIC CENTER, MASS GATHERING, DEVELOPMENT RELATED FEES, CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, ALTERNATIVE HOUSING FACILITIES, UH, PLANNING, PLA VARIANCES, LAND DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, YOU KNOW, FIRE MARSHAL, TOBACCO. SO IT WAS JUST MULTIPLE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE ENDED UP COVERING DURING THE WORKSHOP. AND THIS IS GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY IF Y'ALL HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND MOVE FORWARD. RICHARD HAD SOME CONCERNS, UH, ABOUT SOME OF THESE FEES AND WHY WE'RE EVEN CHARGING SOME OF THESE FEES? SURE. LEMME KNOW WHICH ONES WE CAN ADJUST OR I CAN EXPLAIN. I, I REMEMBER I HAD A ISSUE WITH, UM, THINGS LIKE GETTING PERMITS TO REPLACE YOUR TOILETS OR WATER HEATERS, STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, AND THEN BEING FINED. WHAT, WHAT IS THE FEE IF YOU GET CAUGHT DOING IT WITHOUT A PERMIT? WITH, WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT, WITHOUT A PERMIT'S $275. WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T CHANGE THAT, THAT FEE. UM, THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT UPON. UH, REMEMBER I THINK, UH, COUNCIL ENDED UP, UH, PUTTING THAT ITEM BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING WORK ON THE WEEKENDS AND, UH, ASKED US TO BE MORE STRICT ON IT. AND, UH, WE THINK WE WORKED, SHOCKED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND, AND COUNCIL AGREED TO $275 ON THAT FOR Y'ALL'S DIRECTION. THAT PENALTY IF YOU DON'T GET A PERMIT FOR DOING SOMETHING AT YOUR OWN HOME, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE, IT WAS, UH, TWICE THE SIZE, TWICE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF THE PERMIT. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT USED TO BE. AND, UM, UH, COUNSEL BROUGHT, BROUGHT THIS, UH, TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IT NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEY WERE DOING BIG JOBS, THESE ROOFS, ROOFING JOBS. I MEAN, AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW ABOUT, I THOUGHT WE, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. WE DID. WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. DIDN'T WE DECIDE THAT IF YOU DID THIS PROJECT YOURSELF, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GET THE PERMIT FEE, IT WAS ONLY IF YOU HIRED SOMEBODY. YEAH, BUT, UH, CONTRACT. YEAH. IF YOU, IF THE FEE, YEAH. I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA GET THE PERMIT WITHIN THEIR, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY FIGURED. BUT I REMEMBER BILL ASKED IF, IF YOU REPLACED YOUR OWN BATHROOM FAUCET AND DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT. HOW ABOUT IF YOU'RE HIRING A PLUMBER, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA END UP PUTTING A, A, A PERMIT. I DON'T IS THIS, I'M SORRY. IS THIS PENALTY FOR IF, IF I REPLACE MY OWN FAUCET ON MY OWN TIME? THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST GETTING CONFUSED. WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS. THAT'S, FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I DO TOO. WE NEED, I'M NOT GONNA CHARGE. WE NEED TO STOP PERMIT TO PUT IN THEIR OWN TOILET OR, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS. WELL, WE ALSO GOT IN HERE. LOOK, I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF. WE GOT A GARBAGE DISPOSAL. I'M MY ELECTRICIAN AND THEY'LL HAVE THE PERMIT. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN DO ON THEIR OWN, I MEAN THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. WE'RE NOT YOU, YOU TELL US WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT. WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL WE WILL MAKE THE, WE'LL MAKE THE CHANGES IF I THINK IF, IF YOU DON'T WANT PERMITS FOR THAT ELECTRICAL ON, UH, PAGE FIVE ON THAT ITEM. I AM, I [00:35:01] WILL. WHERE IT SAYS ELECTRICAL APPLIANCE DOMESTIC, THAT MEANS RESIDENTIAL. ANY, ANY RECEPTACLE, ANY PLUG COOKING TOPS, OVENS, GARBAGE DISPOSALS, DISH, WATER. WHAT PAGES IS THAT? YES, I WOULD, I WOULD SCRATCH ALL OF THAT. YOU, I'M KNOW THAT GOES WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW HOUSE AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S BEING, YOU HAVE ALL THESE OUTLETS AND EVERYTHING'S BEING BUILT, BUT THAT'S DONE BY PROFESSIONALS. SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA COME IN THE CITY AND BE, BUILD THEIR OWN HOME ALL BY THEMSELVES. OKAY. THEY HIRE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. AND THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE. AND THEY HAVE PERMITS. ARE WE ALL TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS REPAIRS ON THEIR HOMES? HE NOT, NOT IN BRAND NEW HOMES. COMMERCIAL. I THINK THEY SHOULD KEEP THAT SAME YES. BRAND NEW HOMES. YEAH. I MEAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DIFFERENTIATE? THAT'S A, A LAWYER QUESTION. CAN YOU DIFFERENTIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NEW BOULDER, A NEW BUILDER, I MEAN A BUILDER BUILDING NEW HOMES AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU GO TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW HERE, YOU, YOU REPLACE A LIGHT SWITCH, YOU NEED TO GET A PERMIT THAT DON'T SEEM FIT INTO ME OR TO ANYBODY HERE. PROBABLY. CAN YOU DIFFERENTIATE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT? I, I THINK YOU PROBABLY COULD. I THINK YOU, WHAT YOU MIGHT RUN INTO IS ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. WELL, THEY CAN'T, THEY'RE NOT ENFORCING THIS IF THEY ARE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. YOU KNOW, TELL TALES ON ENFORCE. YEAH. AND, AND I DON'T, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, THE, THIS PEOPLE GETTING SCARED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET A PERMIT FOR IT EITHER. SO THAT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ORIGINAL INSTALLATION VERSUS CHANGING SOMETHING LATER, RIGHT. REPLACEMENTS SAY LIKE, I HAD BOTH MY TOILETS REPLACED BY JUST A PERSONAL FRIEND. WAS I SUPPOSED TO GET A PERMIT TO HAVE THOSE DONE? WELL, YEAH. AND, AND I GUESS THE, THE WHOLE THING, IF YOU END UP GETTING A PERMIT, UM, THAT THAT PERSON THAT PULLS A PERMIT HAS TO HAVE INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S RIGHT. SOMETHING'S NOT GONNA END UP GOING WRONG WITH YOUR HOUSE IF YOU GET FLOODED OUT AND SOMETHING HAPPENS. THAT'S MY FAULT. AND, BUT, AND, AND THAT'S THE CASE THAT WE, THAT THE CITY GOES BACK AND ACTUALLY CHECKS TO VERIFY, IS THIS PERSON INSURED? I DON'T, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW. I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE INSURED. THAT'S FINE. I DON'T. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT HE WAS THERE FOR, DON'T. RIGHT. SHE'S THE MESSENGER. OKAY. BUT LIKE WHEN I HAD MY GAS STOVE CHANGE, I HIRED AN ELECTRICIAN BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DANGEROUS AND DA DA DA. AND HE HAD THIS PERMIT. HE'S A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN AND ALL THAT. AND THOSE ARE FINE. BUT I'VE HEARD CITIZENS COMPLAIN, IF I WANNA CHANGE SOMETHING INSIDE MY HOME MYSELF THAT I CAN DO, WHY DO I HAVE TO GET A PERMIT? WELL, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T IN THE KITCHEN, THEY FIND YOU 2 75, MAN, ARE Y'ALL JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE MAD AT THIS COUNCIL ? SO, SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT, THAT THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY THIS WORKS. YOU CAN CHANGE IT, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT'LL MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I MEAN, WHEN SOMETHING'S REPORTED, WE, WE LOOK AT IT. IF SOMEONE CHANGES A, A SWITCH OR A PLUG, I'M SURE THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. BUT IF SOMEONE IS REPLACING SIDING ON THEIR HOUSE, UM, PEOPLE ARE GONNA NOTICE THAT AND THAT'S GONNA BE REPORTED. SO A CASE BY CASE. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW COMPLICATED WE WANNA MAKE IT. WHERE, WHAT COUNTS AND WHAT DOESN'T COUNT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL DOING THEIR OWN WORK. SHOULD WE RE WORKSHOP THIS? YES. UM, WELL WAIT A MINUTE. HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON. WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THIS STUFF, YOU, YOU DON'T WANNA JUST THROW IT ALL OUT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ASBESTOS SIDING, PEOPLE DOING THAT, AND THE NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR WE'RE LIKE, HEY, ISN'T THERE AN ORDINANCE REGARDING REMOVING AND GETTING A PERMIT FOR SIDING? AND THAT ORDINANCE SAVED THOSE HOUSES, THE THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE BECAUSE THE CITY WAS ABLE TO GO AND STOP THESE PEOPLE FROM REMOVING THIS ASBESTOS. NO, IT MAKES SENSE. AND THAT'S OKAY. DEPART OF, SO SIDING BIG, A BIG JOB OF SIDING. YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT THERE, BUT PLUGS, UH, HERE'S THE DEAL. WE, UH, GARBAGE DISPOSALS. THAT AIN'T THE CITY'S BUSINESS. UM, ELECTRONIC, WHAT'S THAT SAY? UH, ELECTRICAL BATH HEATER. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS. , UH, ELECTRIC RANGE. UM, COOKING TOPS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, HERE'S ONE HERE. X-RAY. AND A LOT OF THESE HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT YOU END UP BUILDING A, A HOUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME. MM-HMM . THEY END UP DOING A TAKEOFF. AND THAT'S HOW WE END UP COMING UP WITH THE PERMIT. I THINK THAT'S FINE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, NEW CONSTRUCTION [00:40:01] IS DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING THAT'S EXISTING. SOMEBODY LIKE A ROOF SIDING, MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO DO THAT ANYWAY. MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE STUFF INSIDE YOUR HOME. I MEAN, THIS LITTLE BITTY STUFF I THINK NEEDS TO BE CURTAILED A LITTLE BIT. BUT THE BIG STUFF, I MEAN THAT, I MEAN THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, MAKES YOU WONDER, HOW DID THAT MS. JOYCE, HAVE WE HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THIS LIST IN THE PAST? I MEAN, UH, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ONLY IF SOMEONE, I MEAN, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I WOULD SAY THE, THE, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THE ONLY ISSUES I'VE HEARD OF LATELY IS WHEN IT'S A SMALL PROJECT AND THEY GET TAGGED WITH THE $275 FEE FOR NOT GETTING A PERMIT. BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ISSUES IN THE PAST. AND I WAS ALSO GONNA SAY, I MEAN, EVERY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTY HAS THESE SAME FEES AND CHARGES IT THE WAY WE ARE RIGHT NOW. IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY STANDARD, UM, TO, TO DO IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT. WELL AND THAT'S TRUE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LITTLE CITIES FOLLOW ALONG, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT ON SOME OF THE LITTLE STUFF. IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT JUST 'CAUSE EVERYBODY DOES IT. SO, BUT THE BIG STUFF I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND RIGO, WE'RE NOT HOLLERING AT YOU . I'M SORRY. I FIND IT, I FIND IT CRAZY THAT WE HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO CHANGE OUR OWN TOILET OR SINKS OR GARBAGE DISPOSALS IN OUR OWN HOME. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO A 15-YEAR-OLD HOME. I MEAN, TO ME, THIS IS KIND OF CRAZY. I'D LOVE TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT SOME VERBIAGE IN THIS FOR PERSONAL HOME IMPROVEMENT EXEMPTION. WELL, WHEN THEY, WHEN WHEN YOU GET THE PERMIT, LET'S SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO YOUR GARBAGE DISPOSAL AND YOU GET YOUR PERMIT, THEN THEY GOTTA COME OUT AND INSPECT IT AFTER IT'S DONE. AND, AND THAT ADD JUST MORE ONTO IT AND, AND I DON'T KNOW. WELL, IS IT AN INSPECTION OR DO YOU VERIFY THERE'S INSURANCE? THERE'S ALSO AN INSPECTION DONE BEFORE THEY COVER IT UP. YEP. NO WONDER THEY NEED, THEY WONDER THEY NEED, THEY CHANGE OUT A WATER. THEY ALWAYS NEED PEOPLE TO DO INSPECTIONS HERE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE INSPECTING WHAT GARBAGE DISPOSALS AND HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT, BUT, BUT I'M SAYING I DON'T, WE DON'T GET TOO MANY OF THOSE PERMITS FOR, FOR REPAIR. PEOPLE USUALLY DON'T ASK FOR THAT SORT OF THING. NO, NO. IT'S, IT'S MORE GONNA BE WATER HEATERS. WELL, AND THAT'S FINE. BIGGER ITEMS THAT, THE BIG ITEMS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE DONE. RIGHT. MAKE SURE THE EXPANSION TANKS ARE GAS, WATER HEATER. THAT SHOULD BE INSPECTED. WELL, BUT YOU, BECAUSE THAT GOES NO, IT SHOULD. I'M, YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT ONE. LEAVE THAT ONE OF GAS WATER HEATER. HEY, ONE SCREW UP AND THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD . OKAY, WELL NO, AND YOU DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. YEAH. OH YEAH. I CAN DO THIS ELECTRICAL WORK AND THEN THEY BURN THEIR HOUSE DOWN. BUT AGAIN, IF THEY DID IT ON THEIR OWN, THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S PROBLEM HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. I KNOW GOVERNMENT DOESN'T LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. IT SORT OF BECOMES A CITY PROBLEM WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS CALLED OUT. SO I MEAN THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THEY PAY FOR THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO, UM, YEAH. BUT THEY PAY ABOUT THAT NURSING TAXES. THEY PAY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TAXES. SO, UM, WE'RE MAKING SURE IT'S SAFE. SOME OF IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT CURTAILED. NOT THE BIG STUFF. NOT NEW HOME BUILDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST THE MINOR LITTLE STUFF INSIDE. LET'S HOLD OFF ON, AND LET'S GO THROUGH THIS. I, I HAD A QUESTION ON PAGE TWO ON, UH, I THINK IT'S A MASS GATHER GATHERINGS. WHAT MAKES A MASS GATHERING? HOW MANY PEOPLE? OH, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE. I THINK IT'S 500. IT'S HUNDREDS FOR A MASS GATHERING. 50 IS ESPECIALLY EVENT PERMIT. GOTCHA. MASS GATHERING I THINK IS 500. SO ARE ARE CHURCHES, UM, DO THEY HAVE TO DO THIS AS WELL? THEY, THEY'RE EXEMPT. THERE ARE, YEAH. THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONS IN THERE. I BELIEVE CHURCHES IS ONE OF 'EM. I'M TRYING TO PULL THE ORDINANCE OF NOW. OKAY. UM, AND, AND WHEN, WHEN THOSE PERMITS GET PULLED, THAT GOES THROUGH ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTORS AND, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING WHETHER THEY'RE CLOSING OFF A STREET, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING REQUIRED. SO IT'S, IT STARTS GETTING MORE AND MORE INVOLVED WITH THESE. SO A BIG, BIG PARTY. YEAH. THE, THE, I MEAN I'M NOT TRYING TO HATE ON ON THE, THE YOUNGER GENERATION. I KNOW THAT THEY, I GUESS THE CITIZENS HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE, YOU ARE THE YOUNGER GENERATION DEALER. WELL, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME YOUNGER THAN ME. UH, WELL THE, THEY WERE, THEY HAD THOSE TRUCK MEETINGS RIGHT THERE AT, UH, ON 90 WHERE, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? WHERE PIZZA HUT IS AT? OR DOMINOS. MM-HMM . THEY'RE ALL HANGING OUT THERE. THERE WAS LIKE LITTLE CAR SHOWS WHERE THEY'RE THE, WHERE THEY PULLING PERMITS FOR THAT OR I'M NOT SURE IF THEY PULLED THE PERMIT FOR THAT. AND IF THEY, LET'S SAY PD PULLS UP, WHO DO THEY CHARGE FOR THAT? THERE SHOULDN'T BE NO CHARGE FOR THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE. I THINK THAT MIGHT JUST END UP JUST BEING SOMETHING THAT THEY PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYONE SHOWS UP IN A PARKING LOT. YEAH. THE REASON I WAS ASKING, 'CAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME THESE QUESTIONS AND FOR MASS GATHERINGS IT'S 500 OR MORE PEOPLE. IF, UH, MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE UNDER 21 OR, UH, IF NOT, IT'S 2,500 PEOPLE. WOW. WOW. OKAY. THAT'S A LOT. YEAH. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS UNDER THIS ITEM. SO I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME OF Y'ALL [00:45:01] MAY WANNA REVISIT, BUT I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD GO THROUGH 'EM AND APPROVE THE ONES THAT Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH PAGE BY PAGE. ARE YOU? I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GOOD, WELL, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE LEAVE? WHAT'S THERE CURRENT AND THEN IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T WANNA APPROVE THE ONES THOUGH THAT ARE SIMPLE ONES JUST TO GET 'EM OUTTA THE WAY. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM TO GO THROUGH. WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM TODAY OR GO THROUGH 'EM AT THE WORKSHOP. SO WELL, WE CAN GO, WE CAN ALSO, UM, NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO LIKE WE DID WITH THE SOLICITATION ORDINANCE AND NOT HAVE ANYTHING WHERE WE'RE CHARGING AND WHERE WE'RE NOT CHARGING. SO IS WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? GO THROUGH 'EM RIGHT NOW? WELL, I'M JUST, IF THERE'S A FEW OF 'EM WE CAN KNOCK OUT AND APPROVE TONIGHT. JUST GLANCING AT 'EM IF Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH THEM. LIKE THE FIRST ONES JUST, WE'RE ADDING AN EXTRA ROOM TO THE CIVIC CENTER. UM, BECAUSE WE ADDED A DOOR. I THINK WE CAN APPROVE THAT. WE PROBABLY CAN DO THAT. WE CAN PROBABLY DO CIVIC CENTER. WHAT YOU WANT TO, WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH 'EM AND APPROVE THEM. WRITE DOWN LITTLE BY LITTLE. I I'LL MAKE A LIST AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND SURE. NAME 'EM ALL. THERE'S SOME WATER CLOSET. YEAH. THE THE, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, THE CIVIC CENTER. ADDING THAT NEW ROOM, WHICH IS THAT COMBINATION ROOM THAT WE ENDED UP, UH, TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH CIVIC CENTER? YES. THEY WANT TO ADJUST THE PRICES THERE. IT IS A VERY NICE AND THEY'VE ADDED THOSE ROOMS. I THAT'S FINE. VERY NICE PLACE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. DID Y'ALL WANNA LEAVE THE MASS GATHERING PERMIT OR DID Y'ALL WANNA REVISIT THAT? UH, WHERE WHAT? SAME PAGE. SAME PAGE. I WANT TO LEAVE IT. IT'S PAGE TWO IN THE BOOK. LEAVE IT. WHAT, WHAT AIN'T LIKE WE HAVE MASS GATHERINGS AROUND HERE ALL THE TIME. UH, PLEASE TELL YOU BECOMES A BIG PROBLEM. SO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM 300 TO 500? THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, IS ANYBODY YEAH. YEAH. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH. ALRIGHT. THAT'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUILDING VALUATION. UH, I THINK PAGE THREE LOOKS OKAY, I GUESS. DO Y'ALL, YES. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. OKAY. SO FAR SO GOOD. PAGE FOUR. GEORGE, YOU ON PAGE FOUR? MM-HMM. DEMOLITION FEES. YEAH, WE, WE ENDED UP JUST MAKING LIKE A FLAT FEE OF $50 TO KNOCK IT DOWN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO HIGHER. OKAY. IF, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DEMOED, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DEMOED. ALRIGHT. PLAN REVIEW FEES. THAT'S PROBABLY COSTLY FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO REVIEW, SO I'M, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR DEAL. UH, REINSPECTION, ARE Y'ALL OKAY TO CHARGE GOING UP FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHEN, UH, WE GO OUT AND UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING INCORRECTLY AND UM, WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO GO AND WAIT BACK FOR THEM TO CALL US TO COME BACK TO CHECK IT OUT AGAIN, SO. RIGHT. IT WASN'T DONE RIGHT TO, TO BEGIN WITH. OKAY. RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY CULVERT INSTALLATION. ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH EVERYTHING ON PAGE FOUR? ANY OBJECTIONS? GEORGE? IS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? I DON'T, UM, WE ARE TALKING JUST RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? I, I COMMERCIAL I'D STILL LIKE TO REGULATE WHAT A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO ON, ON WHICH ONE RICHARD? UH, I DIDN'T, UM, I'M JUST DRIVEWAY. OH, I'M SORRY. OVERALL, I MEAN, YEAH, ON, ON THE DRIVEWAYS. THAT, THAT ONE, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, I DON'T THINK, LET'S SEE, FOR THE COVERT INSTALLATION, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YEP. YOU OKAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO ON PAGE FIVE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'LL END UP HOLDING. MM-HMM . I WOULD, I WOULD ON FOR RESIDENTIAL ONLY. PREEXISTING. OKAY. RIGO, I'M, I'M WRITING IT DOWN. YES SIR. PREEXISTING ON, ON THIS. NUMBER FOUR. I WOULD SUGGEST TO THE COUNCIL TO SCRATCH ALL OF THOSE. YOU ON THE RIGHT PAGE, PAGE FIVE, PAGE FIVE. I'LL SHOW YOU. YOU'RE NOT ON PAGE THE, THE ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES. THIS BEER FIVE IS DIFFERENT. UM, UH, YEAH, HE'S ON THE RED LINE VERSION. PAGE FIVE OF THE RED LINE VERSION. IT'S BEFORE THE CLEAN VERSION. WE'LL FIND IT RIGHT HERE. [00:50:04] RIGHT HERE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT SECTION. OKAY. Y'ALL FIND IT. DID Y'ALL FIND IT ON YOUR PAGES? YES. UH, NOW THIS IS FOR PRE-EXISTING RESIDENTIAL RIGO. MY, MY SUGGESTION IS PREEXISTING RESIDENTIAL EXISTING YEAH. ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES, YOU KNOW, ANY RECEPTACLE, YOU KNOW, STOVE TOPS, OVENS, DISPOSALS, DISHWASHERS, MORE COMMERCIAL PLACES, DIFFERENT YEAH. MOTION PICTURE MACHINES. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH X XING OUT THAT WHOLE, UH, NUMBER FOUR. I WOULD, YEAH. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I GUESS EVERYTHING ELSE SO FAR IS OKAY. I, UH, I THINK THE SAME THING WHEN IT GOES TO PLUMBING ON PAGE SIX FOR PREEXISTING RESIDENTIAL. DO OKAY. DO Y'ALL WANT TO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GAS, LIKE WATER HEATERS? WELL, I MEAN, OUCH. LET'S ASK THE COUNCIL, RICHARD. I MEAN, DON'T, DON'T CHARGE DON'T PER REQUIRE PERMITS. I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, IT, IT'S JUST ONE PIPE. I MEAN I CAN, I KNOW HOW TO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S MESSING AROUND WITH STUFF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. I WOULD SAY ASK IT EXCEPT FOR THE GAS. YOU, YOU, YOU, I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING WITH GAS LINES, SO I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR A PERMIT. . YEAH. WELL I'VE, I'M COMFORTABLE RUNNING GAS LINE AND HOOKING UP GAS APPLIANCES. YEAH. YEAH. WELL SOME OF THE YES, YES. SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH ON THE GAS, IF THE METER GETS PULLED YOU CAN END UP HAVING TO GET A PLUMBER TO PULL THAT PERMIT. 'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE RELEASED FROM CENTERPOINT YEAH. TO MAKE SURE NOTHING'S LEAKING. AND, AND THE THING ABOUT GAS IS IT'S A KILLER. IT, I MEAN, IT COULD OCCASIONALLY YOU, THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND , YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WORKED IN PLUMBING FOR FIVE YEARS, SO I, I'M FAMILIAR. I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I'M QUITE FAMILIAR. WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT FELIX THINKS. FELIX, DO YOU WANNA REGULATE ALL HIS GAS STUFF OR DO YOU WANT TO DEREGULATE IT? I MEAN, IF IT'S GONNA KEEP THE, UH, CITY SAFE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD, I MEAN OKAY. WELL LET'S SEE WHAT STEVE SAYS. I, I, I'M, I'M FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEP GETTING RID OF EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE GAS. 'CAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT'S DOING IT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S DANGEROUS. YEAH. SCOTT, YOU YOU WANT TO DEREGULATE IT? IT'S OKAY. RICHARD DOES TOO. I'M WITH RICHARD. ALRIGHT. THAT'S OKAY. I THINK WE'RE IN THE MINORITY THOUGH. APPREHENSIVE. SO AMANDA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GAS? NO, I WANNA KEEP IT WITH THE GAS. KEEP THE GAS. ALRIGHT. WE KNOW RICHARD, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT OVERSIGHT ON GAS OR YOU WANT TO GET RID OF PERMITS TO GET ANYTHING? LIKE GAS, WATER HEATER. GAS STOVES. YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GET A PERMIT LIKE THEY DO NOW OR YOU WANT TO GET RID OF IT? NO, I THINK, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CHECKED BEFORE AND AFTER. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH, WITH THAT. OKAY. WELL, ALRIGHT, WELL WE BETTER LEAVE GAS THEN. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH THAT WANT GAS OVERLOOKED. UM, BUT LET'S SEE. RGO, WHAT DO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO US ABOUT PLUMBING THAT'S NON GAS? UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL? PREEXISTING RESIDENTIAL. IF SOMEBODY REPLACES A WATER FAUCET, DO YOU WE, WE, WE DON'T, TH I DON'T, LET ME ASK THE COUNCIL, DO Y'ALL THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO REPLACE A COMMODE OR FAUCET? NO. SO WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUT OF THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. LE LEAVE THE GAS STUFF. LEAVE THE GAS. YEAH. YEAH. THAT CAN BE A LITTLE MORE DANGEROUS. ANYTHING. ALRIGHT. HOW ABOUT HVAC? NEW CONSTRUCTION? YES. BUT HOW ABOUT UM, IF YOU GET A NEW AIR CONDITIONER? WELL, MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO THEIR OWN, THAT'S ALL. YEAH. THE CONTRACT AND THEY HAVE A PERMIT. YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU WANNA LEAVE HVAC? YEAH. YES. Y'ALL [00:55:01] WANNA LEAVE HVAC PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA DO THAT FOR SECOND. I KNOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. RICHARD? I MEAN, RICHARD, UH, GEORGE? MM-HMM. ALRIGHT. HOW ABOUT YEAH, THEY CAN ALL SAY THE SAME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. WELL, REFRIGERATION. OKAY. YOU DON'T THINK, YOU'RE NOT SAYING YOU NEED A PERMIT TO BUY A REFRIGERATOR, DO YOU? NO, I DIDN'T THINK SO. , THIS IS MORE FOR LIKE THE BIG WALK-IN COOLERS AND COMMERCIAL. OKAY. MORE COMMERCIAL TYPE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES. WELL, WE NEED MORE OF THEM. UM, ALTERNATE HOUSING FACILITIES. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT ON THESE. PLAN REVIEW FEES. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH ANYTHING ON PAGE SEVEN? SCOTT? SCOTT? I DON'T THINK SO. LET'S GO TO PAGE A . YEAH. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL. YEAH. ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH PAGE EIGHT? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO PAGE NINE. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT AIRBNBS, RICO? ARE THOSE COVERED IN HERE? ALL IT'S GOING TO TAKE IS, IS ONE DISASTER AT A LOCAL AIR AIRBNB. AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WHY DIDN'T THE CITY, I WANNA SAY THAT THAT CAME TO COUNCIL AND WE WERE TOLD NOT TO, NOT TO MESS WITH IT. I DON'T RECALL. I THINK WE HAVE, I REMEMBER IT COMING TO COUNCIL. I THINK WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THERE IS A FEE THEY DO HAVE TO REGISTER. ALTHOUGH ZERO HAVE REGISTERED IT IS REQUIRED. OKAY. ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH PAGE NINE? ALRIGHT, SO I THINK THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. UM, SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHAT I GOT AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE RIGHT. SO Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING EXCEPT ON PAGE FIVE WHERE IT HAS THE ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES. YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BE REQUIRED WHEN A HOMEOWNER IS CHANGING OR DOING THAT WORK THEMSELVES. AND THEN ON PAGE SIX, THE SAME THING UNDER THE PLUMBING. UM, EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT GAS RELATED. YOU DON'T WANT A PERMIT REQUIRED IF THE HOMEOWNER IS DOING THE WORK THEMSELVES. YES. OKAY. THIS IS ALL PRE-EXISTING RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. OKAY. HOLD ON. PAGE SEVEN. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO WHAT IF, AND WE WILL ENFORCE WHATEVER YOU WANT OR NOT ENFORCE WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT WHAT IF A HOMEOWNER HIRES A COMPANY OR A CONTRACTOR THAT FINE YOU WANT TO PERMIT THEM OR NO. USUALLY PERMIT YES, CORRECT. BUT, BUT I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. SO WE DON'T HAVE A OKAY. BUT IT'S THE SAME. IT'S IT'S SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME THING. SAME THING. WE SHOULD NOT, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YEAH, IT SHOULD NOT REQUIRE. DO SOMETIMES PASTOR GET LIKE A PERMIT FOR THE WHOLE YEAR IF THEY NORMALLY DO BUSINESS WITHIN ONE CITY? OR DO THEY GET INDIVIDUAL JOB? CORRECT. INDIVIDUAL JOB. I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARITY SO I KNOW HOW TO ENFORCE WHAT YOU WANT. YEAH. ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S PULL THE COUNCIL THEN. SO Y'ALL HEARD, UH, BRIAN'S QUESTION. SO WE DECIDED TO DEREGULATE, YOU KNOW, PREEXISTING. SO SO DOES IT CHANGE ANYTHING JUST BECAUSE THEY HIRE SOMEONE TO DO PREEXISTING? I WOULD SAY NOT. NO. AND SO YOU SAY NO RICHARD? NO, GEORGE. WELL NORMALLY HE WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF, SOME KIND OF A PERMIT OR SOMETHING. THERE'S LICENSE. LICENSE. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING. DO YOU WANT 'EM TO HAVE A PERMIT OR NOT? YOU WANNA FORCE THEM TO HAVE A PERMIT? YEAH, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LICENSE, BUT, ALRIGHT. SO HE'S A YES. SCOTT, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO, WE JUST AGREED. NO PERMIT. NO PERMIT. HOLD MOMENT. STEVE, FELIX? NO SIR. ALRIGHT. AND AMANDA, JUST I'M GONNA CLARIFY SOMETHING. SO IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT CHECKING, IF THE CONTRACTOR HAS, IF WE'RE NOT MAKING THE CONTRACTOR GET A PERMIT, THEN THEY MAY NOT HAVE A LICENSE. 'CAUSE THERE'LL BE NO WAY FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE THAT. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HIRE JUST HANDYMAN, RIGHT? HANDYMAN. AND THEY DON'T HAVE LICENSES. YES. I GUESS IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE, ON [01:00:01] HOW, IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A, A CONTRACTOR CAN BE SOMEBODY YOU JUST PAID RIGHT. TO DO IT. THAT'S TECHNICALLY A, A CONTRACT YOU ENTERED IT IN, RIGHT? YEAH. DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN. LIKE AC OR A HEATING UNIT. YOU DEFINITELY WOULD WANT THAT. YEAH. AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE LEFT. YEAH. I THINK I'D RATHER DO THAT. YOU KNOW, CONSUMERS NEED TO BE HI JIM, BOB. CONSUMERS, CONSUMERS NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, AWARE BUT IN THE END IT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ENSURE THAT. SO DO WE DON'T NEED ANY, ANY, UM, LETTER, AREN'T WE? WE'LL, WE'LL NEED A MOTION. WE GOT IT. WE CAN UPDATE THAT. THANK YOU. BUT UM, YOU WANT AN UPDATED OR DO YOU WANT A MOTION? OH, DO Y'ALL WANT IT TO COME BACK OR JUST APPROVE IT WITH THAT ONE CHANGE IT'S UP TO YOU. I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT WITH THOSE CHANGES, CAN'T WE? IF YOU WANNA APPROVE IT TONIGHT WITH THE CHANGES WE DISCUSSED, I THINK YOU CAN STILL BRING IT BACK LATER AND TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU OKAY. COME ACROSS SOMETHING ELSE. YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION MISS AMANDA? OH YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE, UH, THIS ORDINANCE MINUS THE EXCEPTIONS THAT YOU PUT IN THERE. YEP. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES. YOU OPPOSED? DO THE OPPOSITE. ALRIGHT, THE AYES HAVE IT. THERE WE GO. GEORGE, YOU GONNA VOTE? AMANDA, GEORGE AND AMANDA. AMANDA AND GEORGE. ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSED. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. RIGO. YES SIR. THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. AND I KNOW BRIAN DID A LOT OF WORK. I THINK WE JUST KIND OF SIMPLIFIED IT CERTAINLY ON BEHALF OF, CERTAINLY ON BEHALF OF THIS, OF THE RESIDENTS. RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION [4. Hold Executive Session to deliberate the potential purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code; to deliberate economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code; and to consult with City Attorney to seek legal advice regarding pending or contemplated litigation pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code.  ] TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALRIGHT, GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. FELIX MADE THE MOTION IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR, PUSH OR SAY GREEN. YES. SECOND BY STEVE. PUSH OR SAY GREEN. YES. RICHARDS. FELIX AND GEORGE. GEORGE. NATURAL GAS. TOO MANY WOOD PARTS. GOT A VALVE COMING OUT OF IT. CHECKED. OKAY. [5. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Regular Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session.  ] GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. WE JUST NEED TO COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. MAYOR, IF UH, YOU COULD STATE THE TIME AND THAT WE'RE BACK IN OPEN. ALRIGHT, WE'LL BE BACK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO, OPEN SESSION. OPEN SESSION AT 8 0 1. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YES SIR. OKAY. UH, WHAT IS THE, THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL? OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS BY IN BETWEEN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG, TEXAS, AND BRIAN ROAD PROPERTY LLC FOR THE SALE OF CERTAIN PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 0.252 ACRES LOCATED BEHIND THE TRACK AT 27 17 FM. 2218, RICHMOND, TEXAS. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY AMANDA, SECOND BY SCOTT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSH OR SAY GREEN? YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, PUSH OR SAY RED. NO. OH, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY VOTED BUTTON. IS THERE ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, SO THE EYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS. THERE WE GO. ANY OTHER BUSINESS? NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL IT. ALRIGHT. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING, SAY YES. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, SAY NO. RICHARD AND GEORGE ARE ALRIGHT. WE ARE, WE ARE. OR FELIX. FELIX. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.