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GOT THE A PART, RIGHT? DIDN'T THEY? ALRIGHT.DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THIS MEETING? LET ME CALL, UH, LEMME CALL IT.
[ Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber ]
MEETING TO ORDER 6 41.[1. Review and discuss Mobile Food Unit Parks and Mobile Food Units, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (William Benton, Mayor) ]
AND DISCUSS MOBILE FOOD UNIT, UNIT PARKS AND MOBILE FOOD UNITS AND TAKE ACTION AS NE AS NECESSARY DIRECT STAFF.IT'S GOT MY NAME BECAUSE I REQUESTED THAT THE ITEM COME BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
BUT RIGO, DO YOU HAVE SURE I DO SOME INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL? SURE.
I'M GONNA JUST DO A, A QUICK RECAP OF WHERE, WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
SO JUST SO WE CAN GET SOME, UH, INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND, AND BRING BACK A, AN ORDINANCE FOR Y'ALL'S REVIEW.
SO WHEN WE ENDED UP BRINGING THIS, THIS ITEM, THE INITIAL CONCERNS WERE ISSUES WITH THE PARKING, UM, VISIBILITY, UH, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY.
UH, WE HAD ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES AND, UM, JUST HAVING FAIRNESS FOR THE BRICK AND MORTAR, UH, BUSINESSES THAT, UH, THAT ARE PAYING TAXES.
SO, UH, WITH THAT ON APRIL 28TH, UH, WE HAD THAT INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL, UH, AT THE WORKSHOP.
AND THEN ON IN JUNE, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED 20, ORDINANCE NUMBER 20, 26 DASH 29.
AND THEN IN AUGUST 4TH, 2026, UH, THAT ORDINANCE WAS REPEALED SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND, UH, REGROUP AND SEE WHAT KIND OF CHANGES, UH, WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO THIS ORDINANCE.
SO ORDINANCE, UH, 26, 29, SOME OF THE BIG POINTS THAT, THAT CAME FROM THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE WAS WE ENDED UP REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF MOBILE FOOD UNITS, UH, ALONG THE, THE, THE, THE MAJOR CORRIDORS.
AND, UH, TRY TO PUT IT AT LOCATIONS THAT WERE, UH, BIGGER SITES, BIGGER THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, ALSO, UH, THAT THEY COULD BE IN THE PRIVATE CATERED, UM, UH, LOCATIONS.
UM, ALSO THAT THEY COULD, UH, OPERATE WITHOUT A SITE PERMIT AT CITY PARKS, AT SCHOOLS WITH PERMITS, UH, CONSTRUCTION SITES AND, UH, CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.
AND THAT, UH, MOBILE FOOD UNITS MAY NOT OPERATE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF ROSENBERG'S, UH, CORRIDOR STANDARDS, WHICH A LOT OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
SO NOW THAT THE, WE ENDED UP, UH, REPEALING THAT, THAT ORDINANCE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE REGULATIONS.
UM, THE SALES TAX, UH, PAYMENTS, UM, ARE STILL AN ISSUE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS, UH, STILL PARKING ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS.
WE STILL HAVE SOME SITE, SOME SITE ISSUES, SOME UH, HEALTH AND SAFETY, UH, STANDARDS THAT WE JUST NEED TO, UH, TO LOOK AT.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE ENDED UP, UH, GOING OUT AND, UH, UM, DOING SOME DATA COLLECTION.
AND WE ENDED UP, UM, FINDING, AND I BELIEVE ON THE DAAS, THERE'S A, A MAP THAT Y'ALL HAVE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAD, UH, FOOD TRUCKS, OUR GS DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO, UH, PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US AND THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF IT.
SO IT ACTUALLY MAPPED OUT THE LOCATIONS OF THE, THE FOOD TRUCKS AND, AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT WE ENDED UP TAKING FROM IT.
SO IT WAS A TOTAL OF 18 DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATIONS THAT WE ENDED UP SURVEYING.
OF THOSE, UH, WE HAD TWO LOCATIONS THAT, THAT WERE PAYING SALES TAX.
UH, 11 HAD TAX NUMBERS, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING SALES TAX.
WE HAD TWO LOCATIONS THAT DIDN'T HAVE SALES TAX NUMBERS AND THREE LOCATIONS THAT, UH, WE JUST COULDN'T, WE JUST COULDN'T, UM, GIVE, GET, GATHER THE INFORMATION BECAUSE, UM, THEY WEREN'T OPEN.
UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY THAT WERE OPEN THAT WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL? THAT WERE NOT HELPFUL? YEAH, NO, EVERYONE WAS, UH, ENDED UP, UH, COMPLYING.
SO A, AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE WARDEN AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE LANGUAGE, DO WE END UP HO HOLDING THESE MOBILE FOOD UNITS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE VALID SALES TAX, UH, PERMIT ISSUED BY THE, BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN, IN MAKING SURE THAT WE GATHER THIS INFORMATION? 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T GATHER IT BEFORE, BUT JUST MAKING SURE WHEN WE BUILD THIS ORDINANCE, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT WE REQUIRE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET A SALES TAX AND NOT ONLY THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE FOOD THAT IS PURCHASED INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECT THE SALES TAX FROM IT.
YOU'RE ASKING IF CORRECT, TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH THAT SO
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THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE WORD THAT? I THINK SO.I THINK OUT OF FAIRNESS, UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG, THE BIG RUB WAS THAT, UH, THAT THE BRICK AND MORTARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR COMPETITION.
AND I REALIZE LIFE'S NOT FAIR.
SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE, AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THE GOVERNOR, THE GOVERNMENT TRYING TO ESTABLISH EQUITY.
UH, I DO BELIEVE IN FAIR PLAY, ESPECIALLY SINCE IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE IMPOSE, LET ME SPIT THIS OUT.
IF BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS HAVE TO COMPLY, THEN IF THE, IF, IF YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA APPLY TO ONE, YOU, YOU NEED TO TRY TO APPLY TO ALL OR DON'T APPLY TO ANY.
BUT LET'S ASK THE COUNCIL IF, UM, UH, TO WHAT RIGO IS ASKING.
UH, DO, DO Y'ALL AGREE WITH THAT? SO YOU WANT US TO YEAH, YEAH.
I KEEP TRACK THROUGH THE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WAY THAT WE'RE GOOD.
SO WE'LL BRING THIS, EVERYONE'S ON THE, ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO IF WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDELL, WE'LL PULL THE COUNSEL NOW.
'CAUSE THIS IS ONLY A WORKSHOP, GUYS.
SO WE AND GALS, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.
FELIX, IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION? I MEAN, I, I DO, YOU KNOW, I'M FOR HELPING OUT THE CITY, MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S IN GOOD, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS FROM IT.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY ONE OF THE, UH, BUSINESSES HAS A, UM, SALES TAX ESTABLISHED IN A DIFFERENT CITY.
HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THAT, UM, BUSINESS OWNER? SO I BELIEVE BY, BY STATE LAW, THE TAX NEEDS TO BE REMITTED AT THE POINT OF SALE.
SO, SO HE'LL HAVE TO CARRY TWO DIFFERENT SALES TAX? NO, THE, THE WAY, THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK, IS THAT WHERE THAT POINT OF SALE IS DONE? IS THAT'S THE CITY WHERE, WHERE THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING THAT, THAT SALES TAX'S SUPPOSED TO GO, THEY COLLECT.
IT'S KIND LIKE AT THE FAIR WITH ALL THE VENDORS THERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE FROM MISSISSIPPI AND DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT WHEN THEY'RE HERE, THEY CHARGE THE 8.25 BECAUSE THAT IS OUR SALES TAX AND THAT'S WHAT GETS TURNED IN HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SALE IS DONE.
SO LET'S GRADY, IS THAT THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND IT? COULDN'T HEAR.
NO, I WAS JUST TELLING, IT'S JUST KINDA LIKE THE, ALL THE VENDORS AT THE FAIR, SOME OF THEM ARE, THEY'RE OUTTA STATE, BUT THEY COLLECT THE SALES TAX THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S REPORTED UNDER THE CITY.
BUT IT'S THE COMPTROLLER, CORRECT? YES, YES.
THE COMPTROLLER TO THE CITY THAT IT WAS PURCHASED IN, SO THAT STILL UNDER THE SAME TAX ID NUMBER.
THEY JUST, AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM STAY HERE MOST OF THE TIME ANYWAY.
YEAH, THAT WILL, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS WHAT IF THEY'RE MOBILE, WHAT IF THEY GO TO RICHMOND AND HOUSTON NEXT WEEK? AND SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE TAX IDS FOR ALL THOSE CITIES THAT THEY SERVE.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME TAX ID, THEY'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO JUST KEEP UP WHERE THAT POINT OF SALE WAS.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THEIR, THEIR SOFTWARES WHERE THEIR CREDIT CARD SALES ACTUALLY RECORDS WHERE THAT LOCATION'S ACTUALLY, UH, OKAY.
AND MY THIRD QUESTION, UH, THIS WOULD BE FOR BRADY, UM, AS A CITY, CAN WE, I WOULDN'T SAY FORCE 'EM, BUT CAN WE GET 'EM TO COMPLY FOR THAT? I MEAN, WE AS A CITY, CAN WE MAKE 'EM DO THAT? SHORT ANSWER? YES.
SORRY, I'VE GOT A PIECE OF CANDY IN MY OH, IT'S OKAY.
SHORT ANSWER, YES, YOU'RE A HOME RULED CITY.
YOU CAN CONDITION YOUR PERMIT ON WHATEVER CONDITIONS THAT ARE REASONABLE.
AND HAVING THE SALES TAX PERMIT TO REMIT TO THE STATE AND TO THE CITY AND TO THE RDC AND THE CCPD IS PERFECTLY VALID.
AND IN FACT, YOU CAN REQUIRE, AS WITH BRICK AND MORTAR INSTITUTIONS TO PROVIDE YOU A SALES TAX REPORT AND DOUBLE CHECK THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT? NO, UH, I GUESS THE, UH, I, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A QUESTION, BUT, UM, I MEAN IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW 'EM TO BE HERE, NOT, YOU KNOW, PUSH 'EM OUT.
LIKE I KNOW HOW THEY FELT THEY WERE GETTING PUSHED OUT.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S ONE OF THE, I GUESS GIVE AND TAKE THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THEM, I MEAN, FOR THEM TO STAY HERE, I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WIN AND WE WIN.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, I WAS JUST ASKING, OR Y'ALL OKAY WITH THE STAFF, I GUESS DOUBLE CHECKING WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IF THESE FOLKS ARE COMPLYING OR GETTING, GETTING THEM TO PAY SALES TAX.
SO STEVE, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I'M ON FOR IT, SCOTT.
WELL, I LIKED YOUR FINAL POINT ABOUT MAYBE NOT APPLYING IT TO EVERYONE.
WELL, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR POINT? NEVER GONNA HAVE, DON'T APPLY ANY RULE,
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ANY, ANY TAXES TO ANYBODY, ANY TAXES.BUT I, NO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO MEET.
I GUESS WE COULD MEET OUT THERE IN THE HEAT.
ALRIGHT, AMANDA? NO, I, I AGREE.
UH, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA PUSH ANY OF THEM OUT.
I'VE DRIVEN BY SEVERAL OF THEM.
UH, MAJORITY OF THEM ARE THERE ALL THE TIME.
THEY DON'T MOVE, SO IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR AMONGST THEM AND THE BRICK AND MORTAR.
SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE PART OF OUR ORDINANCE.
AND HOWEVER THAT Y'ALL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE OR SOMETHING, THAT, THAT IS THE FAIR THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IT HAS TO BE RETURNED INTO THE CITY.
I I THINK IT'S, UH, THE BARE MINIMUM THAT THEY COULD DO THAT WOULD, UH, KEEP IT FAIR WITH THE BRICK AND MORTAR PLACES.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET FILLED IF THERE'S UNFAIR COMPETITION.
GEORGE, DO YOU THINK THESE FOLKS SHOULD HAVE TO PAY SALES TAX, LIKE THE BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDINGS? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, WHAT ELSE, SIR, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC LIST OF THINGS YOU WANNA ASK? YEAH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF LIKE, UH, NOW, UH, LOCATION AND THE AMOUNT.
SO IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UM, THIS MAP, UM, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, ARE WE GONNA ALLOW THEM ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS? I WANNA ALLOW 'EM ON AVENUE H, AVENUE Y 36, 20, 20 18.
LET'S ASK THAT QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL ASK IF THEY WISH A SETBACK.
THAT'LL BE A SEPARATE QUESTION.
AND THEN IF SO, WE'LL TRY TO GET A CONSENSUS, LIKE ROUNDING UP CATS, WHAT, WHAT THE DISTANCE MARKER WOULD BE.
SO, UM, HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL? IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND? I'LL START FIRST.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THEY CAN'T BE ON MAJOR CORRIDORS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BUSINESS IS.
UM, IF YOU BURY SOMEBODY ON A SIDE STREET, I I I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF DEFEATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING IT.
AMANDA, WHAT'S YOUR VIEW, AMANDA? WE'LL GO DOWN THERE THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
AND AGAIN, I'VE DRIVEN UP AND DOWN 90 TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY WHERE THEY WERE TO ME.
I THINK THEY'RE, MOST OF THEM ARE BACK FAR ENOUGH.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT RIGHT ON THE ROAD.
WELL, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT ON THE CORRIDORS.
AND ON THE COURT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN HIGHWAY 90, THE MAIN CORRIDOR.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S FINE TO HAVE THEM THERE.
DO Y'ALL, ARE, DO Y'ALL WANT TO GET 'EM OFF CORRIDORS OR LEAVE THEM OR LET 'EM BE ON, ON CORRIDORS AND OTHER PLACES AS WELL? SCOTT? I AGREE WITH AMANDA.
YEAH, I, I SAY LEAVE THEM ON THERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW THERE'S AN ISSUE.
UH, GEORGE, LEAVE 'EM ON CORRIDOR.
UH, GEORGE, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT 'EM ON CORRIDORS? YES OR NO? ON AVENUE H AVENUE.
H AVENUE? I, WELL, I WAS GONNA USE, UH, FIESTA FOR AN EXAMPLE.
DO YOU WANT 'EM, UH, DO YOU WANNA ALLOW 'EM ON CORRIDORS? YEAH.
MY QUESTION IS, IS FIESTA RIGHT INTO TO THEM THE SPOT OR, AND THEN THE CITY GETS, I'M SURE, I'M SURE THEY'RE RENTING THEM TO 'EM, BUT, BUT DO YOU WANT 'EM ON CORRIDORS OR DO YOU WANT 'EM RELEGATED TO SMALL STREETS WHERE THERE'S NO BUSINESS? NO.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, SETBACKS.
SO LIKE, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A US 98 THERE.
AVENUE H THE RIGHT OF WAY IS 120 FOOT WIDE.
SO IT'S THE OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT BURGUNDY LINE OR THAT, UH, MAROON LINE.
A 10 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS A TYPICAL SETBACK FOR ANY, UM, FOR ANY BUILDING BEING BUILT, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OR FROM, UH, A RIGHT OF WAY.
LINE IS WHERE THAT GREEN LINE IS.
30 FEET IS WHERE THAT DARK BLUE LINE IS FOR REFERENCE.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S THE THE QUESTION I ASKED, LIKE, WHAT KIND OF SETBACKS DO Y'ALL WANT TO SEE FOR THESE FOOD TRUCKS? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE, OKAY, LET'S ASK THE COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SETBACK? AND IF SO, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? 10 FEET? WHAT'S, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? SURE.
AND, AND, AND, AND FOR REFERENCE, THAT'S 10 FEET.
AND, AND, UH, THE GREEN IS 10 FEET, RIGHT? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IN, YOU CAN'T BUILD ANY, ANYTHING WITHIN 10 FOOT OF YOUR PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT'S THE, THE, AT LEAST THE BARE MINIMUM IS 10 FEET.
ALRIGHT? SO THE 20 FEET IS THE BLUE, THE 30 FEET 30 FEET.
WHAT? SO THAT, THAT'S THE SPLITTER.
THE, TO SPLIT THAT, THAT'LL BE 20.
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IF YOU SEE THAT LOCATION, YOU HAVE THREE FOOD TRUCKS ON THERE.THE ONE IN THE VERY BACK IS ABOUT 80 FEET AWAY.
AND HE'S, HE'S KIND OF BURIED THE, THE GREEN LINE IS 10, GREEN IS 10.
RICHARD, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR, UH, NUMBER IF YOU HAVE ONE? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY 20, UM, 20 OR 30.
'CAUSE THERE'S JUST ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THERE'S, THERE'S A HUGE VACANT AREA RIGHT HERE ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THAT PROPERTY.
GEORGE, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? RICO TELL 10 FEET.
RICO, UH, IS THAT BANK MACHINE STILL IN FRONT OF A FIESTA THERE? DRIVE THROUGH? UH, I'M NOT SURE.
I WANNA SAY I THINK THERE IS A BANK MACHINE UP THERE, BUT, UH, IS IT, UH, I I PARKING LOT? YES.
HOW, HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BANK MACHINES, GEORGE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD VENDORS.
BUT THIS IS ON THIS SEPARATE PAGE.
THIS IS ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR, UM, UH, UH, THIS IMAGE, YOU SH YOU'RE SHOWING US UHHUH
IS THIS WHERE IT WOULD HAVE THE MOST IMPACT? ARE THERE OTHER ONES THAT SURE.
FOR THIS IS A SECOND, SECOND EXAMPLE.
THIS IS, UH, 2218 AT O'BRIEN ROAD.
SO THAT'S YOUR, UH, 10 FOOT AND YOUR 30 FOOT.
THAT WAS PRETTY BAD OVER THERE.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPTION THERE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHAT WAS YOUR NUMBER? I SAID THOSE A PRETTY BAD ONE.
NOW WHAT? WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? 20, 20, 30.
ALRIGHT, AMANDA, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? I WOULDN'T GO.
THERE IS STILL VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD.
ARE WE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO EXPECT THE ONES THAT ARE HERE TO MOVE, TO HAVE TO MOVE BACK ALL THEIR STUFF? YES.
WORK AS OPPOSED TO ONES THAT AREN'T HERE? THEY HAVE WHEELS.
NO, I MEAN, RIGHT HERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE PAST, ABOVE THE 10 FEET.
THEY ON TRAILERS, BUT YEAH, I WOULDN'T DO MORE THAN 20 BECAUSE THEY WANNA STILL BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD.
SCOTT, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? I'M DOWN FOR 20 STEVE.
20 FELIX? UM, I'LL SAY ZERO TO 10.
WELL, IT CAN'T BE ZERO 'CAUSE IT HAVE TO BE OUT.
WHAT'S THE SETBACK? IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A FOR BROOKE CARPORT OR SOMETHING AT YOUR HOUSE.
SO FOR BRICK AND MORTAR IT'S 10 FEET.
YOU WANNA PUT 'EM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD? I, I I'LL DO 10 THEN IF IT BRICK AND MORTAR.
AND WE HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT ARE CLOSE, BUT, SO I GUESS THAT NOT WHAT'S THE NEXT, MY NEXT NEXT QUESTION IS, AND USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, HOW MANY MOBILE FOOD UNITS SHOULD WE ALLOW PER LOCATION? I WANNA BACK UP ONE SECOND.
UM, WHEN THEY JUST SAID 20 FEET, I THINK THEY WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT FROM THE STREET RIGHT AWAY.
WHAT ABOUT FROM THE SIDES? SETBACKS? SURE.
ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS THAT FROM THE PROPERTY LINES? SHOULD, AND AND I'M JUST ASKING, I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU WANNA EXPLAIN ON HERE.
SO IF YOU SEE LIKE, UH, THE, THE LOCATION AT THE, THE MOBILE FOOD TRUCK UNIT AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM MM-HMM
THAT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO DO WE END UP DOING 20 FOOT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? WELL, THE PROPERTY LINE THAT I SEE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME NO, THAT'S MAYBE IT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT BROWN LINE IS A PROPERTY LINE, CORRECT? YEAH, THIS IS THE ING, I MEAN THE MAROON LINE'S WAY BACK.
THE TRAILER I SEE WITH THE ARROW POINTING TO IT IS THAT IT IS, IS THAT THE RIGHT ONE? I THINK THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S LONGER THAN THIS ONE.
HE'S ABOUT THIS ONE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT.
IT WOULD LOOK WORSE WITH YEAH, THAT'S NOT ON THE SIDE.
THAT WAS RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE? YEAH, HE'S RIGHT ON THE LINE.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WORSE IF WE, UH, MADE THEM GO 10 FEET INTO THE PARKING LOT.
YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE HORRIBLE.
THE THING ABOUT IT, IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE, HE IS RIGHT NEXT TO TWO BRICK AND MORTAR
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BUSINESSES, ONE OF WHICH IS OUT OF BUSINESS NOW.THE ONE THAT HAD THE CRAWFISH I GUESS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT I SEE THERE'S COMING SOON SOMETHING, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT IT IS.
SO, AND, AND, AND THAT'S THE QUESTION.
UH, I KNOW IF, IF, UH, IT WAS ANOTHER BUSINESS, YOU, YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING NEXT TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S USUALLY A, A 10 FOOT SETBACK.
SO WHY WOULD WE DO ANYTHING? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
WELL, I, I WOULD SAY AT THE VERY LEAST 10 FEET BACK, SO, WE'LL, WE WILL GO DOWN THE LINE.
NAME AND NUMBER, I GUESS 10 FEET.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT EASEMENTS, BUT 10 FEET, IS THAT RULE? I, ALRIGHT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO THAT 10 FEET.
Y'ALL GOOD WITH 10? I WAS GONNA SAY LEAVE THEM AS, I MEAN, THEY'RE MOVABLE.
THEY CAN MOVE BACK AND FORTH, BUT I MEAN, IF THAT'S, IF IT'S GONNA BE FOR EVERYBODY, THEN HOW WOULD IT AFFECT THIS? THIS PICTURE HERE? SO THE, THE, THE GENTLEMAN, THE FOOD TRUCK THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, HE'S ALREADY LEFT.
SO, SO THE ONE ON SALLY ANN, HE'S ALREADY OUTSIDE PASSED.
THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THAT HAS.
YOU GOT A CONSENSUS OF TIM NEXT, UH, WHAT'S YOUR NEXT, YEAH, SO YEAH, SO THE, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, HOW MANY MOBILE FOOD UNITS DO WE ALLOW PER PROPERTY? AND, AND JUST, JUST BY LOOKING AT THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, WOULDN'T IT? CORRECT.
SO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THIS PARTICULAR, THE CONCRETE SECTION, NOT COUNTING THE GRASS AREA IS ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET, INCLUDING THE BUILDING.
AND ARE WE OKAY WITH ALLOWING THREE IN THAT, IN THAT, OR DO WE END UP DOING IT LIKE A THREE PER, I THINK WE NEED TO SAY PER SQUARE FOOT.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, UH, ONE MOBILE FOOD UNIT FOR EVERY 5,000 SQUARE FEET? I WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE LIKE ON THIS PROPERTY, YOU WOULDN'T WANT MORE THAN THREE.
ARE THERE, ARE THERE TWO ON, I REMEMBER YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT.
ARE THERE JUST TWO ON THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? TODAY? THERE'S TWO TODAY.
THERE'S, UM, WOULD YOU, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD YOU CONFORM THAT ORDINANCE THAT, THAT PART OF IT TO, SO THAT YOU, YOU KIND OF CONFORM IT TO WHAT THEY HAVE? SO, AND, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
IT'S LIKE, SO, SO FOR, FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET, HOW DO WE END UP DIVIDING THAT OUT? IF, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT THAT RIGHT NOW AND ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH HAVING THREE IN THAT AREA? OR IS THAT TOO MANY FOR THAT AREA? I IT'S TOO MANY.
THERE'S THREE FOR 14,000 SQUARE FEET IS TOO MANY.
YOU KNOW, ONE FOR EVERY FIVE IS PUSH IS PUSHING IT.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE THING.
SO DO WE END UP MAKING IT FOR, SO IF SOMEONE HAS 14,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO WELL THEY'RE ALLOWED TO.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I WOULD SAY THE ONE PERSON LET'S SAY COULD GROW ANOTHER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
CRUIN JUST INVESTED IN A CHUNK OF PROPERTY FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE A PARK.
YEAH, IT'S A, ITS DIFFERENT THAT HOLD TO A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES.
IT'S AN ENGINEERED PARK THAT HAS SEWER, SEWER, WATER, ALL THE STUFF, ALL THE HOOKUPS.
COULD YOU CONFORM IT TO, SO IF THERE'S ONLY TWO HERE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THESE TO MAKE ANOTHER RULING AND NOW THEY HAVE TO LEAVE.
UM, WOULD IT BE OKAY TO CONFORM IT TO WHATEVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS? AND YOU SAID 14,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, IN CONCOR 7,000.
SO IF TO MAKE IT, UH, 7,000 FOR EACH ONE PER UNIT.
IS THAT, DOES THAT, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? YEAH.
HE WHAT TRICK SUGGESTED WELL, I I ENDED UP THROWING 5,000.
5,000 WILL STILL ALLOW THIS PLACE JUST TO HAVE TWO.
IT WOULD, YEAH, IT WOULD STILL LIMIT THAT TO TWO BECAUSE YOU'D NEED 15,000.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PICTURE? THE, THE ONE ON 59.
SO ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, YOU LOOK AT THAT CONCRETE PAD, IT'S, THEY HAVE A LARGE AREA MM-HMM
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE CONCRETE THAT, THAT PARCEL GOES WAY BACK, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE HOTEL.
SO THEY, THEY COULD PUT A FEW MORE, MANY, MANY, YES THEY COULD.
I THINK, I THINK FOR, IN MY VIEW, ONE EVERY 5,000 SQUARE FEET IS UM, I THINK A LITTLE MORE FAIR.
I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD ROUNDED NUMBER.
AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE, YEAH.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS.
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FELIX, ARE YOU OKAY? ONE FOR 5,000 SQUARE FEET? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.AMANDA? YEAH, I THINK RICHARD.
Y'ALL WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THE MOBILE FOOD UNITS NEED TO BE SO MANY FEET AWAY FROM A BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT? DOESN'T HAVE TO.
JUST, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
WELL, LET'S, LET ME FIRST ASK, LET THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE A LEGAL QUESTION.
WE, WE GOT SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS WE WANT TO ASK YOU TONIGHT.
SO ONE OF THEM, UH, HE JUST ASKED, CAN WE REGULATE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS? YES.
ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL THINKS.
I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF THE BASIS OF THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR FAIRNESS OUT OF THESE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS.
SO I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT PRIOR TO NOW, BUT RICHARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? 'CAUSE I DON'T, I'M, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT ENDED UP, UH, COMING OUT THAT WE'RE BRAINSTORMING.
SO I SUPPOSE A BIG QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE FIRE SAFETY ISSUES.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS RIGHT BY EACH OTHER.
SO, NO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RESTRICT THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT CAN'T BE BY A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING.
IF THEY'RE ACCORDING IF THEY'RE AT, AT THE RIGHT SPOT ENOUGH FEET AWAY.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BID BUSINESS BEING BUILT, WE'VE GOT A WHOLE ROW OF RESTAURANTS ALL RIGHT.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
JUST IF THEY CAN FIND A PLACE TO SPOT TO BE AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT AND OKAY TO PUT IT THERE, THEN THAT, THAT'S FINE.
CAN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR GRANTED? CAN THEY BE SUBJECT TO HEALTH INSPECTIONS? JUST LIKE THE, UM, OH YEAH.
WELL WHY? THE, THE STATE HEALTH INSPECTIONS? YEAH.
THEY'RE, I MEAN, WELL HOW DO WE, BUT WE DON'T ISSUE THE PERMITS FOR THEM TO OPERATE, SO, SO IT WOULD BE STATE INSPECTIONS THEN.
DOES THE CITY INSPECT THESE FOOD TRUCKS FOR HEALTH REGRADING OR, OR EXCUSE ME, JOYCE STARTING, UM, JUNE 1ST WE CANNOT.
SO I BELIEVE WE CAN INSPECT THEM FOR FIRE SAFETY BUT NOT HEALTH.
ALRIGHT, SO NOT FOOD TEMPERATURE.
JOYCE DOES THE CITY, I MEAN THE STATE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE, YOU KNOW, INSPECTION, MY UNDERSTANDING THE STATE'S BEHIND AND HASN'T EVEN ISSUED THEIR PERMITS FOR JUNE 1ST.
SO, UM, WELL, THAT'S ON THE STATE.
LET'S GET BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT RIGO, UH, I THINK AMANDA MADE, UH, A GOOD POINT.
AND SO DO WE WANT, DO WE WANT TO REGULATE IT? I'M SORRY? DO WE WANT TO LIMIT? AND IF SO, WHAT WOULD A LIMIT BE? LIKE 50 FEET, A HUNDRED FEET? I DON'T KNOW.
WHY DON'T WE TRY IT THIS WAY WITHOUT THAT AND YEAH.
WE, WE'VE HAD THIS REGULATION, WE'VE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA THREE TIMES AND ONLY ONE RESTAURANT OWNER CAME IN AND COMPLAINED.
SO IF THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT, THEY, THEY MISS THE BOAT.
LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS.
UH, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, OH MAN, IT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY OF YEAH.
WHO ALLOWS THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THESE OTHER RESTRICTIONS IF, YEAH.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH NOT HAVING A REQUIREMENT? YEAH, I, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH.
OKAY, SO WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT ONE, RICO.
YEAH, WE'LL GO ON TO THE, WE JUST ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO WHEN WE END UP, UH, GETTING THE APPLICATION, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING ON, ON ASKING ON THAT IS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS, WHERE IS THAT BUSINESS REGISTERED? THEIR SALES TAX INFORMATION, THE LOCATION OF WHERE THEY'RE GONNA END UP PUTTING THE MOBILE FOOD TRUCK AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AUTHORIZATION FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER, UH, TO BE ON THAT LOCATION.
AND ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? SO IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN? GEORGE, LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN.
AND I DOUBT SOMEBODY WOULD MOVE THEIR BIG FOOD TRUCK ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMISSION, BUT ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO DO A, UH, ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS TO THE, TO THE PEOPLE AT THE FOOD TRUCKS AT THE FOOD PARK MM-HMM
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WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING THEIR SALES TAX ALSO.THEY'RE UNDER THE SAME FROM THAT THEY NEED TO ALSO GET A GUIDELINES PERMIT.
WHEN YOU SAY AUTHORIZATION, HOW DO YOU WANT IT WRITTEN? JUST TO WINK IN A NOD.
IT, IT'LL BE WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WELL, I WOULD PUT THAT IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE THEN, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WRITING IN THERE, CORRECT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT STATED HERE.
SO SOME OF THE OTHER STANDARDS JUST TO CONSIDER, UM, RESTROOMS, UM, THE WAY THAT THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE WAS THAT IF, UH, THE MOBILE FOOD UNIT HAD A SITTING AREA, UH, BENCHES, UM, PATIO FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO STAY OUT THERE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO RESTROOMS, WHETHER FROM THE GAS STATION, UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE PERMISSION TO IT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL INTERESTED IN OR WELL, LET'S GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE.
SOMETHING THAT, BEFORE I FORGET STEVE BROUGHT UP TO ME WAS, UH, A, A PRICE LIST.
SO WE, I WANNA WRITE THAT DOWN.
A PRICE LIST, YOU KNOW, SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU CHARGE FOR WHAT ITEM? LIKE A, A MEETING.
SO WHEN YOU GET UP TO ORDER A HAMBURGER AND YOU ASK THEM HOW MUCH IT IS, THEY DON'T SAY HOW MUCH YOU GOT.
SO WE WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANNA KNOW THESE THINGS.
SO A PRICE LIST, WAS THAT ON YOUR THAT A MENU? YEAH, A MENU.
CAN WE, CAN WE REQUIRE THAT? LEGALLY? WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO THAT, CAN WE? WELL, YOU'RE A HOME RULE CITY.
THE STATE HASN'T SAID YOU CAN'T REALLY, YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT'S LIKE THE CAMEL'S NOSE UNDER THE TENT FLAP FROM WHY DON'T WE ASK THEM? WHY DON'T WE ASK THEM? UH, THANK YOU.
DURING THE PROCESS, IF THEY WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO, UH, DISPLAY THEIR PRICE LIST.
AND MY GUESS IS MOST OF THEM DO ALREADY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO THROUGH RESTROOMS. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR SOMEBODY TO, TO HAVE RESTROOMS. I MEAN, COME ON.
UH, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THE GROUP WANTS, RICHARD.
WELL, IF THEY HAVE SEATING AREAS, THEY SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAVE RESTROOMS. I MEAN, WELL, RIGHT NOW LET'S JUST DO RESTROOMS. WELL, WELL IT'S PART OF IT.
IT GOES, IF THEY DON'T HAVE SEATS, THEN YOU KNOW THAT IT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND.
BUT I, I'M NOT, I DON'T CARE ABOUT RESTROOMS. JOR GEORGE IF, UH, A FOOD TRUCK, DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW.
HOW WOULD YOU OR SOMETHING AND, AND IT, IT COULD BE, BUT A LOT OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE GAS STATIONS, UHHUH,
SO I THINK THAT THEY CAN, THAT THEY HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO USE A RESTROOM AT THE GAS STATION.
BUT IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, HOW ARE YOU GONNA, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? REQUIRE PORT A CAN.
I I THINK THE, AND BRIAN MAY WANNA SPEAK TO THIS, BUT, UM, IF, IF, IF THEY HAVE PLACES FOR YOU TO SIT AND YOU'RE STAYING, I THINK YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A RESTROOM.
UH, JUST LIKE ANY BUSINESS HAS TO HAVE A RESTROOM IF THEY HAVE CUSTOMERS.
BUT I'LL LET BRIAN SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, SO YES, IF YOU HAVE A SITTING AREA WHERE YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA SIT, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ACCESS TO A RESTROOM.
IN THE PAST WE HAVE JUST ASKED FOR A WRITTEN LETTER FROM THE STORE OWNER, THE CONVENIENCE STORE, TO SAY YES, THEIR CUSTOMERS CAN USE MY RESTROOM.
BRIAN, HOW ABOUT KU KING? THE MUSIC? WHAT? NO,
SO THE NEXT QUESTION I'M GUESSING IS SEATING.
ARE YOU, ARE WE OKAY WITH HAVING A, A SITTING AREA? OH MY GOD.
OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S FEW, THERE'S SOME LOCATIONS ON THAT THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SITTING AREAS WHERE IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT AND THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED.
WELL, I, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLOSED, THEY SHOULD TAKE ALL THAT DOWN.
WELL, SOME OF 'EM HAVE A ONE ON 90 I KNOW HAS LIKE THE WOODEN PICNIC TABLES AND IT'S YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM OUT THERE.
BUT, BUT IT'S KEPT NICE AND IT'S KEPT UP.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I, WELL THINK IT'S, UH, FELIX, DO YOU THINK THAT FOOD TRUCK SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEATING AREA? NO.
I, I DON'T IF THEY WANT TO PEOPLE TO STAY IN LINGERING, IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
WE'RE NOT SAYING TO REQUIRE IT.
IT, IT GOES HAND IN HAND AGAINST WITH THE, WITH THE RESTROOM.
SO PARTICULARLY THERE'S A LOCATION THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT IN A, IN A PARKING LOT.
WAIT A MINUTE, ARE YOU ASKING US IF, IF WE WANT REQUIRE THESE THINGS? NO, NOT, NO, NO, NO.
IT, IT JUST, IT GOES BACK IN, IN, I'M SORRY.
WELL, WHY, WHY ARE WE SAYING, LEMME, LEMME CLEAR MYSELF.
GOING BACK TO THOSE RESTROOMS. SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE ON THAT
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LIST THAT ARE IN PARKING LOTS WHERE THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED.OKAY? AND THEY HAVE A SEATING AREA OUT THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO GO INSIDE THAT BUILDING TO USE A RESTROOM BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED.
DO WE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A SEATING AREA? WELL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR HOLD IT IN.
I THINK THE SEATING AREA IS FINE.
I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE RESTROOM OR SEATING AND NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT.
NOBODY'S, NOBODY'S SAYING THEY'RE RE WE'RE REQUIRING TO HAVE A SEATING AREA.
I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE BEING ASKED THIS.
HE'S ASKING IF WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE SEATING AREA OR ELIMINATE.
WE SAID WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE IT.
HE'S SAYING THAT ONE OF THE BUSINESSES HAS PICNIC TABLES OUT THERE.
THE PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD NORMALLY USE THE RESTROOM IS CLOSED IN THE EVENING SO THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE BATHROOM.
IS THAT AN ISSUE? NOT WITH ME.
WHO CARES? ALRIGHT, WHAT'S THE NEXT OKAY.
UH, PAVED PARKING LOT AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A CONCRETE OR ASPHALT INSTEAD OF THEM BEING IN THE GRASS.
AND I DON'T REALLY CARE EITHER ABOUT THAT AS LONG AS IT'S KEPT UP.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO, AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ALLOWS TO BE THERE ORDINANCE ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE BEING MADE TO DO THIS.
WELL, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME THAT'S LIKE, FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYTHING'S PAVED AND JUST THE IDEA OF IF THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT IN A GRASS AND THEY'RE GONNA END UP PUTTING OIL OR GET, GET STUCK.
WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ISSUE.
UH, ARE WE OKAY WITH THEM HAVING SIGNAGE? MM-HMM
THEY CAN PUT SIGNAGE OUT THERE.
THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES ON SIGNAGE THOUGH.
DON'T PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
DON'T PUT FLASHY GO GO LIGHTS, GO, GO DANCERS.
WELL, IF IT'S ATTACHED TO THE, TO THE UNIT, THEN IT'S FINE.
BUT IF THEY, IF IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO IT DOESN'T, DON'T THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, CORRECT? MM-HMM
AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, MOST OF THEM ATTACHED TO, YEAH.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT GO OUT THERE AND PUT THOSE A-FRAME SIGNS OUT TO SHOW THAT'RE HERE.
YEAH, THEY PUT THEM IN WHEN THEY'RE GONE OPEN, THEY CLOSED, MOST OF THEIR SIGNAGE IS PAINTED ON THEIR, THEIR DEALS, SO MM-HMM
ARE WE OKAY WITH, UH, LETTING THEM, UH, JUST, UH, BE OUT THERE, THE TRAILER AND STAY OUT THERE? YEAH.
AND JUST STAYING OUT THERE? YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY INCONVENIENT TO REQUIRE THEY COME BACK EVERY DAY AND MOVE IT.
UM, ALLOWING THEM, UH, TO SET UP SHOP ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
IN FACT, I'M THINKING OF CALLING
YOU SAID FOR NON-PRIVATE EVENTS.
RIGHT? SO IF THEY, IF IF SOMEONE PUTS A FOOD TRUCK AND, UH, ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND, AND OPENS UP, UH, ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GET FOOD FROM THE FOOD TRUCK.
WELL, A LOT OF AREAS THAT WOULD BE AGAINST HOA RULES, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THE HOA.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT IN HOA, THEN I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
ALLOW THAT BECAUSE RESIDENTS RESIDENTIAL, WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENCES.
BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT DOING IT EVERY DAY THOUGH.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT IF WHAT HE ASKED, HE LOOKS, HE ASKED DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW IT? RIGHT.
AND, AND, AND THERE'S, THEY WILL END UP HAVING A PERMIT.
SO IF, UM, IF SOMEONE'S DOING A PRIVATE EVENT FOR THEIR HOUSE, THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THIS IS MORE LIKE SOMEONE SETTING UP SHOP EVERYDAY BUSINESS.
YEAH, TALKING ABOUT WORKING FROM HOME.
NO, I DON'T WANT, SHOULD IT? IF IT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY NO.
WHAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, THERE'S LOTS OF HOUSES THAT AREN'T IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
I, I CAN'T WHAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SAY YOUR NEIGHBOR SET ONE UP ON HIS FRONT LAWN PERMANENTLY.
LET'S SAY DISTANCE FROM ANOTHER HOUSE.
UH, MY NEIGHBORS WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT.
AND, AND NOT ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
AND I DON'T THINK REALLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
BUT LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS.
ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW, NOT ALLOW GEORGE ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW, NOT ALLOW.
YOU WANT 'EM IN GREENWOOD? I'M GETTING ME ONE.
SCOTT, YOU WANT ONE ON MALMAN? NO.
ANY OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, Y'ALL MIGHT END UP, UH,
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THINKING TO ADD? JUST THE MENU.SO THIS WILL END UP BEING KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE PRESENTED.
I, I BELIEVE IT WAS A $25, UM, PERMIT, LOCATION PERMIT.
UM, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WE PUT A GOOD FOR THREE MONTHS.
THESE, THESE FOLKS WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE NOISE.
NOISE AND LIGHTING ORDINANCES.
YOU DON'T WANT NOTHING TOO LOUD OR TOO BRIGHT.
CAN WE RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF, UM, UH, THESE TRUCKS ON A CERTAIN THOROUGHFARE? WE HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED THAT.
WELL, HOW ABOUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IF WE HOLD IT TO WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW AND NOT ALLOW ANY MORE ADDITIONAL, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT ALONG 90, UH, THE MAJOR CORRIDORS? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PARKS THAT ARE SET UP FOR THAT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, THE ONES THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW.
LEAVE THEM AND THEN NOT ALLOW ANY OTHERS.
YOU WANT A GRANDFATHER WHO'S THERE? I I GUESS WE, IF YOU WOULD CALL IT A GRAND, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I GUESS SO.
AND THEN PUT UP HOW MANY THE WRONG 90.
NOW I'M OUT FOR SUPPLY AND DEMAND IN COMPETITION.
IF TOO MANY SHOW UP, THEY'LL BE AS MUCH, MUCH DEMAND AND THEN THEY'LL START GOING AWAY ON THEIR OWN.
IS IT NINE ALONG 90? UH, IT, IT'S NINE OR EIGHT.
I MEAN, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TOWN REALLY WELL.
YOU, YOU HAVE A LIST OF EIGHT? WELL, SOME OF THESE ARE, YEAH.
SCOTT, WHAT WAS YOUR POINT? LIMIT THEM OR DON'T LIMIT THEM.
LET LET THE MARKET LIMIT THEM.
YOU WANNA LIMIT HIM OR, OR NOT LIMIT THEM? NOT LIMIT THEM.
FELIX, YOU WANNA LIMIT OR NOT LIMIT? NOT LIMIT THEM.
LIMIT OR NOT LIMIT? NOT LIMIT.
I, I I CAN BARELY HEAR YOUR MUT.
AND AMANDA LIMIT OR NOT LIMIT? NO, NOT RIGHT NOW, NO.
AND, AND JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT LOCATION OF UH, UH, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, SUPPOSE A PROPERTY IS LIKE ON BRYAN ROAD THAT THEY HAVE A ACREAGE MM-HMM
THAT, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A LOCATION.
THERE'S NO, THERE AREN'T ANY HOUSES.
WELL, I, WE CALL THAT REALLY A SUB RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SUBDIVISION BEHIND THERE, RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A SUBDIVISION NEXT TO THEM AND, UH, BUT THEY'RE ON THE ACREAGE.
I WHEN YOU SAY RESIDENTIAL TO ME, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, IT'S STILL, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT TECHNICALLY ISN'T A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN YOU SAY RESIDENTIAL, I THINK OF IT BEING ON SOMEONE'S FRONT LAWN.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SURROUNDED BY HOUSES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ON BRIAN.
I THINK UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, I THINK THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS NOT RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, I THINK IT, THEY'RE FINE THERE.
AND JUST, JUST TO MAKE, JUST TO MAKE SURE.
YEAH, NO, I THINK THEY'RE FINE THERE.
BUT THEY CAN BRING THEIR TRAILER AND KEEP IT ON THEIR DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT? I AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT USING IT.
I WANT, I SAY THEY DON'T LOSE IT.
DON'T THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A SETUP AT THEIR HOUSE WITH THE, WITH A DECK.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BRIAN ROAD DEAL? MM-HMM
BUT I THINK FELIX IS STILL NO, I, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW THERE'S SOME MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS THAT GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEN THEY TAKE THE TRAILER TO THEIR HOME AND THEY PARK IT THERE.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT OPERATING AT IT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH, BECAUSE BRIAN, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR NEXT GIG, SO THEY WOULD BRING IT.
WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
YEAH, YOU DID A GOOD JOB WITH THAT ONE.
WE, WE WOULD'VE NEVER GOT THROUGH THAT.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT RIGO, YOU DIDN'T TELL US THAT YOU WERE IN THE FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS? NO.
[2. Review and discuss the Animal Control and Shelter monthly report for July 2026, and take action as necessary to direct staff. (Omar Polio, Director of Animal Control) ]
ALRIGHT.REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTER MONTHLY REPORT FOR JULY, 2026.
TAKE ACTION AS NECESSARY TO DIRECT STAFF.
UH, TODAY WE'RE GOING OVER THE JULY 20, 26 MONTHLY REPORT.
FIRST OFF, WE HAD OUR FOREVER FREEDOM EVENT THAT WE HOLD EVERY YEAR DURING THE 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND.
UH, THIS WEEKEND WE DID SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE HELD IT THE DAY BEFORE THE 4TH OF JULY,
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WHICH GAVE US, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPOSURE BEFORE PEOPLE GOT TOO BUSY ON THAT SATURDAY.THE, THE HOLIDAY HAD FALL ON A SATURDAY, SO WE TRY TO MOVE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
AND WE ACTUALLY DID REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
WE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR PETS SQUAD ON THE, ON THAT FRIDAY, INCLUDING ONE OF OUR LONG STAYS QUESADILLA, WHICH IS LIVING HER BEST LIFE NOW.
WE DID ALSO HOLD OUR QUARTERLY VACCINE CLINIC IN JULY.
WE WERE ABLE TO VACCINATE OVER 70 ANIMALS, UH, AND MICROCHIP AS WELL, WITH THE HELP OF ONE OF OUR PARTNERING VETERINARIANS AND ONE OF OUR PARTNERING 5 0 1 C THREES.
UH, THESE WERE PROVIDED FOR FREE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY INCLUDED ALL BOOSTER VACCINES, RABIES VACCINES, AND MICROCHIPPING AS WELL.
AND IT'S PRETTY COOL TO SEE THESE EVENTS ALL HELPFUL.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR GOING ON TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS NOW, TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE NOW HAVING OUR REGULAR, UM, CUSTOMERS OR MM-HMM
THEY COME TO US LAST YEAR AND THEN WE SEE 'EM AGAIN AND WE SEE THEM, UM, GROW UP AND CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THEIR PETS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND, AND STAYING IN THEIR HOMES.
AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS GO, FOR JULY, WE DID HAVE A TOTAL OF 85 ANIMALS COME INTO THE SHELTER.
33 DOGS, 46 CATS, AND SIX OTHERS.
ALL DIVIDED THERE BY DIFFERENT, UM, METHODS THAT THEY CAME IN.
WE DID HAVE A TOTAL OF 96 TOTAL OUTCOMES, 2129 DOGS WENT OUT, 61 CATS AND SIX OTHERS AS WELL.
IN JULY, WE DID ONLY HAVE ONE DEATH, WHICH WAS A EUTHANASIA FOR A CAT, WHICH HAD A VERY SEVERE INFECTION, UM, SEPSIS, AND WAS GOING THROUGH ORGAN FAILURE.
SO REALLY THE ONLY COURSE OF ACTION THERE IS TO EUTHANIZE AS FAR AS THE NUMBER GOES AT THE, UH, THE FINAL LIVE RELEASE RATE.
THAT DOES PUT US AT A 99% LIVE RELEASE RATE FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR DOGS LEFT ALIVE.
98 CATS, 98% OF OUR CATS, AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OTHER ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL BEGIN WITH FELIX.
FELIX, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, GREAT NUMBERS.
TELL EVERYBODY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF ADOPTIONS AND JUST KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
NO QUESTIONS, BUT THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD NUMBERS.
I'M GONNA GIVE THIS TO JOYCE AND ASK HER TO ASK TANYA TO PUT IT IN THE NEWSLETTER.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA PUT THESE FIGURES IN THE NEWSLETTER EVERY MONTH.
I SEE YOU LOOKING OUT THERE, BUT I'M OVER HERE.
THAT'S, IF YOU CAN ADD THAT ALSO ON FACEBOOK, JUST ON THE PAGE.
[3. Hold Executive Session to deliberate economic development negotiations pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code; and to consult with City Attorney to seek legal advice regarding pending or contemplated litigation pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code. ]
NEED A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, YOU'RE IN FAVOR, GRADY, ABSENT.
WE'RE GONNA DO A VOTE, VOICE VOTE.
IF YOU WANNA GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, SAY AYE.
[4. Adjourn Executive Session, reconvene Workshop Session, and take action as necessary as a result of Executive Session. ]
TO DO WE NEED TO RECONVENE? YES.WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO RECONVENE.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES OR AYE OR WHATEVER.
IF YOU WISH TO ADJOURN, SAY YES.